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Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« on: March 08, 2010, 11:47:08 PM »


"Hm! I suppose I have not made things challenging enough. Let us try this."


Team Nephrite vs. Floor 8
Team Super and CT vs. Floor 4
Team Jo'ou vs. Floor 3[/b]


Floor 9: Fly Me to the Moon and Let me Play Amongst the Stars

"Well well well... I should not be at all surprised that you got this far... However, you will get no special treatment here, "Mister President." For I, Nyarlathotep Hawk will stop you and your mad rise to victory! Hahahahahahaha!"


Team Super's Matches

Floor 5c: Fly Me to the Moon

"So, you've found your way here. Very well, I think I'll make you fight some interesting people from beyond this terrestial plane."

Battle #21: Luna, Alex, Lucia and Ghaleon (EB/EBC Boss)

Luna: Alex...!
Alex: I will protect you, Luna!
Lucia: Ghaleon, I expect of you...
Ghaleon: Yes, yes... I'm aware.

Battle #22: Zeromus, Fusoya and Golbez

Zeromus: AS LONG AS THERE EXISTS DARKNESS OF THE HEARTS OF MORTALS...
Fusoya: Lunarians...
Golbez: I will defeat you.

Battle #23: Albedo and Virgil

Albedo: Let's go, ma peche.
Virgil: If you call me that one more time I'm going to kill you.

Battle #24: Nyx Avatar: Hermit and Justice

Nyx: I am... death. Let us see what you can do...

Boss Battle #5: Orgulla and Margulis

Orgulla: Sir, that wasn't a moon, that was a planet!
Margulis: We'll destroy them all with our DS system.


Team Tranquil's Matches


Floor 5a: Repeat? (After Midgame)


"Hahah! I have a special treat for you today..."

Battle #21: Guy, Guy, Guy and Guile

Guy: You guys are dead! I didn't lay down to the Sinistrals and I won't lay down to you!
Guy: Um... I guess if we have to do this, let's go.
Guy: Damnit, Luke! You're so stupid!

Battle #22: Kary, Karin, Killey and P3 Ken

Kyra: The power of Espers flow through me...
Kary: HUHUHU FIRE FIEND
Karin: A female soldier? In MY German army?

Battle #23: Alen, Alena and Alex

Alex: With the power of the Dragonmasters at my side, you're all toast!
Alena: For my kingdom!
Alen: Let us do battle.

Battle #24: Sara, Serra, Sarah and Sarah

Sara: Light Dragons... protect me!
Serra: BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH I'M A BITCH
Sarah: If master Luc wishes it...
Sarah: SONIIIIC... BOOM!

Boss Battle #5: Nina1, Nina2, Nina3, Nina4

Nina: Let's go, for Windia!
Nina: No, it's Wyndia!
Nina: No no, I'm sure it's Windia...
Nina: ...Either way, we'll get you!


Team Jo'ou's Matches

Floor 4b: Past and Future

"Let's see how you fare when you have to trample through the annals of time!"


Battle #16: Lufia, S2 Lucia, Child Rydia, Pichu and Valvalis

Lufia: I will... fight!
Garland: I, GARLAND, SHALL KNOCK YOU ALL DOWN! FOR REAL!
Pichu: Pipipichu!

Battle #17: Rikku, Aeonless Yuna and S5 Georg

Rikku: Yeah! Let's go!
Yuna: I will fight if I must.
Georg: Ah... hm. Okay.

Battle #18: Fort Zeakden Algus, Argath, Wiegraf and Balk

Algus: Uh...
Argath: Don't mess up this time...
Wiegraf: I have an ascot.
Velius: Velius, more like Belias.


Battle #19: Gun Mage Yuna, Thief Rikku and S2 Georg

Rikku: Let's go, Yunie!
Yuna: All right, Rikku!
Georg: Haven't I seen you guys before...?

Boss Battle: Lufia 2 Erim, S3 Lucia, Raichu, Barbariccia and Rydia

Erim: I... am sorry.
Lucia: For KARAYAN!
Rydia: I will face you...!
Barbariccia: Ha ha ha ha ha!


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Team Nephrite | Yuri1, Yuri2, Arnaud, Ricardo (Life), Ditto (Quick Powder)
[Floor 5c v.9: Fly me to the Moon and Let me Play amongst the Stars]
*Arnaud has been granted a Tiny Flower
*Ditto's HP is now scaled as if he were Level 100 vs. a Level 50 Average
*Ricardo's songs now affect him as well
*Yuri2 has been granted a Crucifix and his moves are now Technical Ring and should be scaled against Normal Ring averages.
*These enemies reduce damage to .4x
Team Nephrite vs. Luna, Alex, Lucia, Ghaleon (EB/EBC)
*These enemies do MP damage in addition to HP damage. The MP damage should be scaled to 50% of their normal HP damage.
Team Nephrite vs. Zeromus (FF4), FuSoYa and Golbez (FF4DS, No plot paralysis)
*These enemies double-act.
Team Nephrite vs. XS1 Albedo and XS1 Virgil
*These enemies have permanent Sukukaja, Rakukaja and Tarukaja.
Team Nephrite vs. Nyx Avatar: Hermit and Justice
*These enemies are completely immune to stat downs and gain boost at 1.5x the normal rate. In addition, their HP is increased to 1.25x.
Team Nephrite vs. Orgulla and Margulis (XS2)

Team Super | Fogel, Jerin, Hellion (Speed?), FF1 Knight, Tia, Nall
[Floor 5c: Fly me to the Moon]
Team Super vs. Luna, Alex, Lucia, Ghaleon (EB/EBC)
Team Super vs. Zeromus (FF4), FuSoYa and Golbez (FF4DS, No plot paralysis)
**Full Heal
Team Super vs. XS1 Albedo and XS1 Virgil
Team Super vs. Nyx Avatar: Hermit and Justice
Team Super vs. Orgulla and Margulis (XS2)

Team Tranquil | Dart, Albert, Meru, Sharanda, Rose (Synergy Bonus)
[Floor 5a: Repeat?]
Team Tranquil vs. Guy(L2), Guy(FE7), Guy (ToTA) and Guile
Team Tranquil vs. Kary, Killey (S5), Karin and Ken (P3)
Team Tranquil vs. Alen, Alena and Alex
Team Tranquil vs. Sara (BoF1), Serra, PC Sarah (S3) and Sarah (ShF1)
Team Tranquil vs. Nina1, Nina2, Nina3 and Nina4


Team Jo'ou | Deis1, Geno, Ryu3, Raja (Speed?), FFT Priest
[4b: Past and Future]
[Masters: Bunyan 1, Mygas 1, D'lonzo 1]
Team vs. Lufia, Lucia (S2) Child Rydia, Pichu and Valvalis (FF2/4 or FF4a)
Team vs. FFX Rikku, Aeonless Yuna and S5 Georg
Team vs. Fort Zeakden Algus, Wiegraf, Undead Dark Knight Argath and Velius
*Full Heal
Team vs. Gun Mage Yuna, Thief Rikku and S2 Georg
Team vs. Lufia 2 Erim, Lucia (S3), Raichu, Barbariccia (FF4 DS) and Rydia



Life - One character's healing effects now also allows for revival, but reduces the final effect of any healing by 50%. (This means full healing is always 50%) The healing also only revives characters with 1 HP.

Speed? - The effective speed of one character is reversed (60% becomes 140%), but after the first round of combat, their speed returns to default and can not be increased in any way.

Synergy Bonus - In the case of the Legend of Dragoon Team, they have access to items and accessories. The items are limited, however.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2010, 04:17:14 PM by Nephrite »

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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2010, 11:52:35 PM »

Team Super | Fogel, Jerin, Hellion (Speed?), FF1 Knight, Tia, Nall
[Floor 5c: Fly me to the Moon]
Team Super vs. Luna, Alex, Lucia, Ghaleon (EB/EBC)- Kill Alex and luna (Not hard with Hellion going full blitz), heal and recover.
Team Super vs. Zeromus (FF4), FuSoYa and Golbez (FF4DS, No plot paralysis)- Hellion+Jerin makes sure that no one besides Zeromus gets a turn.
**Full Heal
Team Super vs. XS1 Albedo and XS1 Virgil- Albedo is a complete nonfactor, as always. Virgil... mmm. Fogel/Knight can't hit him, but he didn't resist Earth (S1 Earth hit flying enemies), and Tia/Jerin cand amage him to some extent. Don't think he can lock the entire team down.
Team Super vs. Nyx Avatar: Hermit and Justice- Nothing in Nyx's forms looks scary enough to threaten the team, and neither form looks super durable on their own.
Team Super vs. Orgulla and Margulis (XS2)- Slap down Copper Flesh on Tia or Jerin, laugh. Hellion may get butchered after that, but it shouldn't matter- Orgulla needs a full combo to threaten my supertanks and Margulis can't kill Fogel or Knight without Acala seal.
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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2010, 11:58:49 PM »
Team Nephrite | Yuri1, Yuri2, Arnaud, Ricardo (Life), Ditto (Quick Powder)
[Floor 5c v.9: Fly me to the Moon and Let me Play amongst the Stars]
*Arnaud has been granted a Tiny Flower
*Ditto's HP is now scaled as if he were Level 100 vs. a Level 50 Average
*Ricardo's songs now affect him as well
*Yuri2 has been granted a Crucifix and his moves are now Technical Ring and should be scaled against Normal Ring averages.

*These enemies reduce damage to .4x
Team Nephrite vs. Luna, Alex, Lucia, Ghaleon (EB/EBC)

Okay, let's see. Even with the damage reduction, there's not really much they can do. Tiny Flower Aftergame Arnaud DEFINITELY outspeeds EBC Ghaleon and hits him with a Slow Down. From there, Ditto turns into Alex (again!) Yuri1 throws FtC, Ricardo throws Stat Immunity Song, Yuri2 For Everyones.... Luna goes first, Lucia second. Alex survives a beatdown to get a Red Dragon Anger off, but... Ditto definitely survives this time and they all get killed from there. Easy enough to kill Ghaleon and leave Alex alive with no MP via Mind Assault to throw up MP Recovery songs to fully heal.

*These enemies do MP damage in addition to HP damage. The MP damage should be scaled to 50% of their normal HP damage.
Team Nephrite vs. Zeromus (FF4), FuSoYa and Golbez (FF4DS, No plot paralysis)

Well, this is a bit of a slog except for a few things. Fusoya dies to FtC and Golbez practically does too. Smack around Zeromus some and Slow Down him, Ricardo's MP Recovery song can get everyone back on their feet easily even if Zeromus gets off a Big Bang (which is soooo not happening...)


*These enemies double-act.
Team Nephrite vs. XS1 Albedo and XS1 Virgil

Oh no!! Albedo and Virgil! Oh wait, Slow Down totally trivializes both of them and they can't kill anyone on their own. Shadow Wing is useless thanks to Ricardo so... yeah. More MP recovery goes on here.

*These enemies have permanent Sukukaja, Rakukaja and Tarukaja.
Team Nephrite vs. Nyx Avatar: Hermit and Justice

This is a long fight but it isn't especially hard or resource intensive. For the Children, For Everyone and judicious use of Slow Down should do wonders, leaving me relatively fully healed for...

*These enemies are completely immune to stat downs and gain boost at 1.5x the normal rate. In addition, their HP is increased to 1.25x.
Team Nephrite vs. Orgulla and Margulis (XS2)

Arnaud cries here. He throws a Hyper on Ditto. (You'll see) Regardless, the same rules apply as before. Ditto turns into Orgulla this time... she probably throws a Quick on herself. Yuri2 For Everyones, Ricardo... hmm. Ricardo can probably get away with a Third Key song here. Margulis does... something, Orgulla probably Quicks Marguilis... none of them can kill anyone at this point though unless I'm terribly mistaken? Next round... For Everyone'd and Hypere'd Ditto-Orgulla lays into Evil Orgulla, followed up by another For the Children and Yuri2 Energy Charging and then bashing her face in with a Third Key effect. Really, even with both of them under Quick I don't think they can lap anyone on my team so even if I can't go blitzing, I have near-infinite resources.

Even if none of this flies, I had a good run and enjoyed myself. :)

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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2010, 05:38:14 AM »
Re Team Nephrite: Sure, willing to buy him getting past the first two fights.

*These enemies double-act.
Team Nephrite vs. XS1 Albedo and XS1 Virgil

This is a little more complicated than it looks - Albedo can haste himself and kills a PC a round, guaranteed (the "do 50% max HP damage" move).  Additionally if Albedo is ever allowed a turn at half life he can MP-nuke both Ricardo and Ditto which would turn off the MP-resupply chain permanently.  On the bright side this doesn't matter because the Yuris have the non-elemental damage to bust through Albedo quickly, and Ricardo does make Virgil cry.

Don't know the P3 fight, will assume that Nephrite makes it through.

*These enemies are completely immune to stat downs and gain boost at 1.5x the normal rate. In addition, their HP is increased to 1.25x.
Team Nephrite vs. Orgulla and Margulis (XS2)

Yeah this really isn't too bad.  Gaining boost extra-fast doesn't actually matter here since Orgulla can max the gauge in a turn anyway so the only thing that matters is the 1.25x HP.  Except that, even ignoring Ditto!Orgulla hype, Orgulla is eating Hypered Third Keyed Energy Charged Yuri beats on turn 2 for massive damage.  Yeah this isn't working out well.

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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2010, 04:17:25 PM »
Tranquil's floors are up.

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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2010, 10:00:04 PM »
Super passes, kneejerking a pass for Snow, need to think on CT's team.

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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2010, 10:44:48 PM »
Super and Snow pass, abstain on others.

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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2010, 03:12:34 PM »
Oh right arguments -

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Recheck of what I have -

Bandit's Shoes (Albert)
Dancer's Shoes (Meru/Sharanda or Rose)
Psyche Bomb X (Meru/Sharanda MT non elemental nuke)
Mage Ring (MAG+30 Meru/Sharanda if they can afford it)
Physical Ring (HP +50%)
Element halving accessories (talk to Dhyher about the dragon armours, think it's borderline myself)
All stat up/down/shield items
Final additions (Rose, Albert ... Dart?)
Dragon summons (Sharanda/Meru)
Pretty Hammer + Cool Boogie (Meru - the longer she can stay in dragoon form's defences the better >.>)
Soul Ring + Therapy Ring (Dart if he can afford it)
Status blockers (notably Talisman for ID)

A few items not on the list but which may or may not be legal (they are definitely available by this point in game) are the Giganto's Ring (storebought - boosts ATK + DEF by 20), Magical Hat (boosts MAG, MDEF + MP) and Dragon Helm (boosts HP + DEF)

Also damage thingies -


Testing done vs Divine Dragon Spirit w/th Miranda and Meru's MATK both at 213, not all in one fight -

Miranda*

P Bomb X Base Damage -2291
W Silver Dragon Base Damage - 1899
W Silver Dragon w/th Power Up - 2847
W Silver Dragon w/th Power Down - 2847
W Silver Dragon Special w/th Power Up + Down - 5697

*Meru

P Bomb X Base Damage - 2324
Blue Sea Dragon Base Damage - 3040
Blue Sea Dragon w/th Power Up - 4560
Blue Sea Dragon w/th Power Down - 4560
Blue Sea Dragon Special w/th Power Up + Down - 9120

Meru had a slightly better Psyche Bomb X there because I had better luck with mashing X on the controller for % but yeah Divine Dragon Spirit is uhh ... F6? So the girls should be more or less close to what I had them as =-)

My main argument for this floor is that the team uses the first fight to build up SPs while Miranda MTs the other fights with her dragon - healing the party up as needed in the process, Meru keeps MPs topped up, abuses stat up/down items and/or nukes any remainders with BSD.
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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2010, 06:57:08 PM »
I... guess?  Pretty sure the guidelines say Psyche Bomb X isn't until F7 but okay, I'm willing to kneejerk a pass for CT's team.

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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2010, 07:44:09 PM »
No arguments on Team Jo'ou?  Seems moderately close, actually.  Deis1's damage lags a bit on Floor 4-5, it's only good there, ~130 damage or so (and goes back to awesome on Floor 6 with BoltX, Comet, etc. doing ~400).

Team Jo'ou | Deis1, Geno, Ryu3, Raja (Speed?), FFT Priest
[4b: Past and Future]
[Masters: Bunyan 1, Mygas 1, D'lonzo 1]
Team vs. Lufia, Lucia (S2) Child Rydia, Pichu and Valvalis (FF2/4 or FF4a)
Should be passable.
Team vs. FFX Rikku, Aeonless Yuna and S5 Georg
ID Yuna...  unless the evade would mess that up?  Not a tragedy if she gets a turn anyway.
Team vs. Fort Zeakden Algus, Wiegraf, Undead Dark Knight Argath and Velius
If Velius gets a turn I'd vote fail here but Raja Holy Word hype probably helps kill Velius turn 1.
*Full Heal
Team vs. Gun Mage Yuna, Thief Rikku and S2 Georg
...and here's where it gets tricky.  IIRC FFX-2 immunes ID?  Anyway, one initiative Stop is bad here, and Jo'ou can't afford another one to go off, so I suspect Priest has to blow a Holy to kill Rikku in time.  Because they have to kill Yuna before she unleashes her charged up super-damage, too.  So a win but the Priest's batteries are drained.
Team vs. Lufia 2 Erim, Lucia (S3), Raichu, Barbariccia (FF4 DS) and Rydia
...which means no Holy vs. lol Erim.  Uh, ID Lucia I guess, and Deis1 has MT earth damage to take out the electric rat with in the various Quake spells (6.5 I think)?  Actually Holy Word hype against Erim might be go as well.  Now can Ryu3's physical finish off Rydia?  And could Rydia resist earth damage at all?  Because if it can't then the team is eating Erim MT + Rydia MT which is not pretty, though I guess Priest can Shell someone.  If Priest has exactly enough for 2 Holies then even after using 1 the first fight he can nuke Erim with Raja here which would render this fight easy.  But yeah, otherwise Erim MT + Rydia MT + Barb hits someone tanky = owowow.  So does anyone have a good figure on exactly if Priest can make it to enough MP by Floor 4?  I doubt it but I suspect that's what the fight hinges around.  (Also as a fair warning I'm basically assuming Ryu3 spams his physical, if he has something else that can turn it then maybe that'd help.)

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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2010, 09:13:12 PM »
Raja has solid MP restoration with Ataraxia. If they can cripple the last fight with defensive buffs Raja can restore everyone's mp up to full or close to it.

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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2010, 02:22:22 PM »
Thanks Consonant =-) Well if end game/final boss is F7 I'd kneejerk Aiglis/Zenebatos/Death City Mayfill F5 - F6 myself probably. Aiglis is where the Psyche Bomb X is gotten so yeah. I'd say Mayfill is F6 while Zenebatos is kind of borderline in the middle so it's kind of hard to say where the dragon armors fall. Shiranda's isn't available till the Moon anyway =/

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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2010, 06:53:27 PM »
Really now.  That'll teach me to be lazy and rely on assumptions instead of checking the guidelines.

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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2010, 02:28:20 AM »
Not particularly convinced by any of the arguments I've seen.

Super passes, others fail.

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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2010, 10:54:48 PM »
All teams vs dungeon
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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2010, 11:01:57 PM »
Snow passes, CT passes (I think), Neph fails.
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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2010, 03:33:04 AM »
CT passes. I believe LoD statuses are just all 100%. And are now attached to items, which can be used to by all. They can easily hampstring about half of most fights just by that really, which just relieves most of the pressure most fights can throw. Otherwise, Psyche Bomb X is absurd damage (MT OHKO), and they all have revival! Not doing a fight by fight breakup, but gut is they take this floor fairly easily.
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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2010, 03:50:48 AM »
Abstain on Neph, would need to think it through more as the mods shake things up some.
CT passes.
Super probably passes?
Snow passes, esp. if he has super combo but dunno if he has that yet. Brain's shut down to leaky melon. Regardless, think he squeaks past.

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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2010, 05:27:57 PM »
Super Combo is there - picked Bunyan floor 3.
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Re: Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 33
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2010, 05:50:55 PM »
Yep. Then anything that needs physical Ryu just whaps, since that was brutal if you were good at it and we allow that timing crap in the DL (SMRPG).