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Re: Rate the characters 2: RATE HARDER!
« Reply #225 on: September 22, 2010, 08:47:08 AM »
The games might not be similar, but characters are generally constructed so that they could easily personality-wise fit into our modern world. Not really too many other valid sources that game designers would have for personality, unless you want to argue that they generally do fit with what would been common personality types several other years ago.
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« Reply #226 on: September 22, 2010, 04:03:47 PM »
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Maya - 6/10 - Whoopass completed!
Ulala - 2/10
Katsuya - 3/10
Baofu - 5/10
Tatsuya - 0/10
Nate - 6/10
Ellen - 10/10

Guido
Ishigami Chizuru
Tatsuzou (Tatsuya Suzuo)
Tatsudou (Tatsuya Sudou)
Nyarlathotep


Legaia 2
Lang - 4/10
Maya - 7/10
Kazan - 5/10
Sharon - 6/10
Ayne - 3/10

Bubba
Elliot
Marienne
Doplin
Velna
Rauss
Avalon

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« Reply #227 on: September 22, 2010, 08:09:11 PM »
Legaia 2
Lang - 4/10. Uninteresting character. His characterisation adds enough to prevent him from being boring, but no more than that.
Maya - 8/10. Adorable personified. She has the best characterization of the whole game. There's no character development though beyond "hey I got my voice back and will from now on behave as if I've always been able to speak!" and despite the game hyping her powers as being important, it doesn't feel that way.
Kazan - 6,5/10. I like that they made a teacher type who's experienced rather than wise. That turned out to be much more fun than expected, but like Maya he doesn't have anything apart from characterisation. If anything, his backstory with Rauss is a discredit.
Sharon - 6,5/10. Well, she is rather funny. Like the rest of the cast, she got nothing apart from characterisation. Her dream of becoming a pirate is not as bad as Kazan's backstory, but still rather silly.
Ayne - 4/10. Was there any point to him? Well, he does have a few amusing scenes, but for the most part he may as well not have been there.

Bubba - 5/10. Rather amusing, especially him being a bishop.
Elliot - 2/10. First the game tried to make me hate him. Then at the last second the game tried to make me feel sorry for him. The result was that I neither felt sorry for him, but didn't either feel any satisfaction for beating him either.
Marienne - 2/10. See Elliot.
Doplin - 3/10. Mostly an idiot. He was portrayed as a total scumbag, but I couldn't care less about him using Elliot and Marienne.
Velna - 5/10. Props for simple agreeing with the villains goal, but for her own reasons. Yet somehow she came of as non important despite being second in command and having an unique power.
Rauss - 3/10. Really silly backstory and no real character to speak of besides wanting to test his mettle against a worthy opponent. His insanity effect was cool though.
Avalon - 1/10. Stupid backstory and inefficient as a villain. He came of as a credible threat at first, but then he decided to just allow the heroes to run free. Either you try to get rid of them or you try to use them, but don't just sit there and do nothing. Instead of him being an active threat, he was just given a stupidly amount of power that required complete nonsense to counteract.

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Re: Rate the characters 2: RATE HARDER!
« Reply #228 on: September 26, 2010, 10:38:24 PM »
I forgot to mention, but due to being caught up with a few things this week, this will not be updated until October 3th or so.

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Re: Rate the characters 2: RATE HARDER!
« Reply #229 on: October 26, 2010, 12:29:34 AM »
October 3th meant the 30th, right?

Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Maya: Gonna give her a 9.5, because I think it's unfair to give her a score based only on EP!
Ulala: 5, could have been a lot more interesting as a foil to Maya.
Katsuya: 6, nerdy cop
Baofu: 7, interesting dude with glasses and a complex
Tatsuya: 3, boring
Nate: 7, they needed to do more with him
Ellen: 8, loses a point or two for TV SUMARU FUCK THAT DUNGEON CHRIST

Guido
Ishigami Chizuru: 3? She didn't really do much.
Tatsuzou (Tatsuya Suzuo): 3? Also didn't really do much.
Tatsudou (Tatsuya Sudou): 4 VOICES VOICES (but also didn't really do much)
Nyarlathotep: 8, +1 for the answering machine

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Re: Rate the characters 2: RATE HARDER!
« Reply #230 on: October 26, 2010, 01:57:40 AM »
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Maya: Gonna give her a 9.5, because I think it's unfair to give her a score based only on EP!
Ulala: 7, could have been a lot more interesting as a foil to Maya.
Katsuya: 6, nerdy cop
Baofu: 8, interesting dude with glasses and a complex
Tatsuya: 0.5, boring
Nate: 7, they needed to do more with him
Ellen: 8, loses a point or two for TV SUMARU FUCK THAT DUNGEON CHRIST

Guido
Ishigami Chizuru: 3? She didn't really do much.
Tatsuzou (Tatsuya Suzuo): 3? Also didn't really do much.
Tatsudou (Tatsuya Sudou): 4 VOICES VOICES (but also didn't really do much)
Nyarlathotep: 8, +1 for the answering machine


Legaia 2
Lang - 4/10. Uninteresting character. His characterisation adds enough to prevent him from being boring, but no more than that.
Maya - 8/10. Adorable personified. She has the best characterization of the whole game. There's no character development though beyond "hey I got my voice back and will from now on behave as if I've always been able to speak!" and despite the game hyping her powers as being important, it doesn't feel that way.
Kazan - 6.5/10. I like that they made a teacher type who's experienced rather than wise. That turned out to be much more fun than expected, but like Maya he doesn't have anything apart from characterisation. If anything, his backstory with Rauss is a discredit.
Sharon - 7/10. Well, she is rather funny. Like the rest of the cast, she got nothing apart from characterisation. Her dream of becoming a pirate is not as bad as Kazan's backstory, but still rather silly.
Ayne - 3/10. Was there any point to him? Well, he does have a few amusing scenes, but for the most part he may as well not have been there.

Bubba - 5/10. Rather amusing, especially him being a bishop.
Elliot - 2/10. First the game tried to make me hate him. Then at the last second the game tried to make me feel sorry for him. The result was that I neither felt sorry for him, but didn't either feel any satisfaction for beating him either.
Marienne - 2/10. See Elliot.
Doplin - 3/10. Mostly an idiot. He was portrayed as a total scumbag, but I couldn't care less about him using Elliot and Marienne.
Velna - 5/10. Props for simple agreeing with the villains goal, but for her own reasons. Yet somehow she came of as non important despite being second in command and having an unique power.
Rauss - 3/10. Really silly backstory and no real character to speak of besides wanting to test his mettle against a worthy opponent. His insanity effect was cool though.
Avalon - 1/10. Stupid backstory and inefficient as a villain. He came of as a credible threat at first, but then he decided to just allow the heroes to run free. Either you try to get rid of them or you try to use them, but don't just sit there and do nothing. Instead of him being an active threat, he was just given a stupidly amount of power that required complete nonsense to counteract.


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« Reply #231 on: October 26, 2010, 02:19:15 AM »
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Maya: 3/10. Silent main. (Also, seriously, 'unfair' to vote on the only English-released game? >_>)
Ulala: 7.5/10. Don't underestimate ME you ****ing bastards!
Katsuya: 9/10. YOU'RE ALL UNDER ARREST!
Baofu 8.5/10. Damn, can't remember a Baofu quote off the top of my head. I love awesome older people though, I am one of those curmudgeonly people that Djinn is referring to because I am tired of teenagers.
Tatsuya: 0/10. No.
Nate: 5/10. Uh, I guess he has a cool hat.
Ellen: 3/10. She has a personality?

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Re: Rate the characters 2: RATE HARDER!
« Reply #232 on: October 26, 2010, 02:51:16 AM »
Eh. I agree with score if not that sentiment (granted, if you've -played- both (the patch is out~), then yeah, unfair, but not if you only played EP). Can see where he's coming from, though (she's pretty damn well personified, just not so much in EP). still probably one of the best silent mains (this is like winning the lottery and getting three quarters).


(i like) parent(hesis)
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« Reply #233 on: October 26, 2010, 03:38:04 AM »
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment Innocent Sin
Maya: Gonna give her a 9.5, what's an EP, superior driving
<Ko-NitoriisSulpher> roll 1d100 to grade Nitori?
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« Reply #234 on: October 26, 2010, 06:50:21 AM »
Eh. I agree with score if not that sentiment (granted, if you've -played- both (the patch is out~), then yeah, unfair, but not if you only played EP). Can see where he's coming from, though (she's pretty damn well personified, just not so much in EP). still probably one of the best silent mains (this is like winning the lottery and getting three quarters).


(i like) parent(hesis)

If you play IS, you can practically imagine everything she says in EP, even if she doesn't say it. I give her a lot of credit as a character for that. I understand a lot of people won't see it that way, though.

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« Reply #235 on: October 26, 2010, 02:05:21 PM »
To be fair I haven't played IS and imagined everything she had to say because that is ROLE PLAYING you guys should try it sometime.

10/10 Maya is the best Stripping Gorrila ever.

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« Reply #236 on: October 26, 2010, 10:48:24 PM »
I've never really understood the sentiment that the main should be silent so you can imagine yourself as them when you're not given any freedom to make decisions in those games. Suikoden II is a particularly offensive example.

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« Reply #237 on: October 27, 2010, 12:11:57 AM »
Hey, be fair Rob, in Suikoden 2 you are given the choice to be a total tool and go live by yourself if you really really want. You even get slapped like the sissy bitch you are if you try.

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« Reply #238 on: October 27, 2010, 12:40:59 AM »
 I am not the one who would be slapped. I would do the slapping. Also I would be the one killing Jowy with an ambush.

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« Reply #239 on: October 27, 2010, 02:23:22 AM »
So your complaint is that all of S2's choices result in you being some flavour of pussy.

I can't say I don't see why you have a problem with this.

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« Reply #240 on: October 27, 2010, 03:05:33 AM »
It's more like giving me a menu but every option is being a pussy, but if I want I may supersize it and add a layer of pussy sauce.

Also I fucking hate his character art.

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« Reply #241 on: October 27, 2010, 03:32:03 AM »
Also I fucking hate his character art.

For realz. Riou is terrible.
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« Reply #242 on: October 27, 2010, 04:52:32 AM »
Bike shorts and a neckerchief. I want to waterboard whoever designed him.

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« Reply #243 on: October 27, 2010, 06:14:08 AM »
Jowy: Hahaha I lied to you buddy I know we just want peace and theoretically dislike war but surrender to me it's useless!

Riou:
A) "Okay.  I am a pussy."
B) "..." (I am still a pussy but too scared to even speak.)

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« Reply #244 on: October 27, 2010, 07:10:34 AM »
"too bad for you, fucker. I let in a suicide bomber earlier."

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« Reply #245 on: October 27, 2010, 10:36:12 AM »
I was worried that I had started something horrible with jokes, but I am glad to see this is glorious.

Ciatos, is it time we started up a Suikoden Art Appreciation thread to continue the same line of conversation we had with the Elves?

Edit - And to hate on Suikoden 2 Elf, if you run away because seriously, zombies coming through the window, his axe is on fire, then Suikoden 2 makes Georg call you a punk bitch and to go fuck yourself.  What kind of freedom of choice is that?
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« Reply #246 on: October 27, 2010, 10:57:32 AM »
Why, it's almost like they just wanted to not have to write dialogue or something.

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« Reply #247 on: October 27, 2010, 01:12:28 PM »
Clearly this is the perfect point for branching plot where you go around punching dudes in the mouth as Georg's apprentice of punching dudes in the mouth.
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« Reply #248 on: October 28, 2010, 05:31:43 AM »
I would use my clearly-retarded and extremely obnoxious sister as a human shield, since clearly she refuses to go the fuck away.

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« Reply #249 on: February 08, 2012, 11:35:54 PM »
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment (6 votes)
Maya - 7.041666667
Ulala - 5.916666667
Katsuya - 6.166666667
Baofu - 7.166666667
Tatsuya - 2.416666667
Nate - 6
Ellen - 7.2

Guido - 6.25
Ishigami Chizuru - 3.333333333
Tatsuzou (Tatsuya Suzuo) - 3.75
Tatsudou (Tatsuya Sudou) - 5
Nyarlathotep - 8.25


Legaia 2 (7 votes)
Lang - 4.857142857
Maya - 6.714285714
Kazan - 5.571428571
Sharon - 6.857142857
Ayne - 3.428571429

Bubba - 4.5
Elliot - 3.833333333
Marienne - 3.5
Doplin - 4.166666667
Velna - 4.9
Rauss - 2.6
Avalon - 2.5


Bonus Round!!!  Les Miserables (0 votes)
What the fuck is WRONG with you people?  Do you have no CULTURE?  We'll revisit this LATER. 


Good

1) Gig: 9.5
2) Citan: 9.25
3) Lily: 8.85
4) Yuri (SH1): 8.79
5) Nanako: 8.56
6) Kanji: 8.40
7) Dojima: 8.36
8) Arnaud: 8.35
9) Nyarlathotep: 8.25
10) Yosuke: 8.20


Bad

1) Goto: 1.00
2) Zemus/Zeromus: 1.11
3) Raven: 1.5
4) Alonso: 1.78
5) Kain(FF4): 1.89
6) Fiore: 1.9
7) Asia: 1.9
8) Alfina: 1.94
9) Gogo: 2.00
10) Exdeath: 2.07


I am thoroughly impressed that half of the highest ranked characters are from SMT games :)

Alright, as a reminder - massive spoilers may ensue within.  Please be advised.  You are free to vote using intervals of 0.1.  No smaller.  Vote however you see fit to rank the characters.  Let's do a bit of old and new here...with a theme!  Guess the theme, win a prize.


Radiant Historia
Stocke
Raynie
Marco
Rosch
Aht
Eruca
Gafka

Heiss
Queen Protea
Selvan
Dias
Hugo
Viola
Garland

Vanoss
Liese
Teo
Lippti
Sonja
Kiel
Raul


Tales of Phantasia
Cless
Mint
Chester
Klarth
Arche

Dhaos


BONUS!!!! - Ducktales
Scrooge McDuck
Huey
Dewey
Loiue
Donald
Gyro Gearloose
Duckworth
Launchpad McQuack
Ms. Beakley
Webigal Vanderquack
Fenton Crackshell
Bubba Duck and Tootsie

The Beagle Boys (and Ma Beagle)
Flintheart Glomgold
Magica de Spell


You have 1-2 weeks to vote.  I will let you know when this closes.  GET VOTING!!!!!
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