Backstory, as requested:
I don't have the slightest idea what in the hell is going on, because I have amnesia. I woke up a few days ago and went through my normal morning routine before realizing that, while I know who I am and what I do for a living, what the local newspaper is called, etc, etc, I can't recall a single thing I've actually
done in my entire adult life. And even though I can tell from my own records at the store where I work that I've only lived her for about half a year, it feels like I've been here forever.
Anyway, when I went into town that day, I was confronted with the murder of Sheriff Jon Hutchins, and while I can't really remember doing anything specific, I know he was a good man.
I am not, to the best of my knowledge, a miller, despite being from out of town.
Okay, so, Hellsnake and Pietro are the going concerns. Apologies if I duplicate anyone else's arguments without credit; I'm mainly going through their posts specifically, because digesting the entire thread this quickly would just tie my brain in knots.
1) Hellsnake's rolefishing is.......dumb. So incredibly dumb. But not necessarily scummy. In fact, kind of dumb-towny, the way I read it, if only because a hypothetical Scumsnake would already know that, if Bike
is town, he's not a cop, unless of course he's lying and thereby giving useless info anyway. Millersnake, by contrast,
does have a good reason to ask, although he should have been up-front about why.
2) The reviver part of the claim is just outright bizarre. Like I said before, I'm not going to pretend to know the mind of mod; I know my role isn't exactly standard issue, either. But it smacks of the "oh, and here's why it would be a REALLY BAD IDEA to lynch me" gambit that scum likes to pull, when there is NO good reason for a townie with such a kill-bait role to fullclaim unasked so early.
3) In the same post (and his subsequent megaposting), he does almost as much reporting as I did this week, and brother, that's a lot of reporting (seventeen #@!$ articles between my last post and today. Argh!). Reporting can also be dumb-town play, but it, the rolefishing and his tunnel-vision on Pietro in those megaposts (defining people by their positions on a pet case - not good) combines into a whole lot of poor play, all in one package.
4) OH GOD PIETRO'S CLAIM BURNS US. I know, this is supposed to be about Hellsnake, but Jesus CHRIST. You claimed cop so you could confirm that a self-proclaimed miller returns scum?! Because, y'know, everybody was worried that Hellsnake was a godfather or ITP claiming miller for shits and giggles, and this sets our minds at ease? Argh argh argh argh argh argh argh. ARGH. Also, argh. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH. This makes Bill's reviver claim look like Nobel material.
Okay, I need to move on to something else or I'm just going to keep typing "argh" until the day ends.
5) Bill leans on the reviver claim again. See above re "don't lynch me or else" being a scummy sort of argument.
6) FOUR MILLERS? What the fuck.
7) I agree with Bike here:
You'll forgive me that my immediate reaction to a 'miller rolecop' claim is to assume 'scum rolecop'.
Especially since it now seems to be open season for miller claims.
8) Reading through Pietro's posts, it seems...a bit sparse, maybe (oh, the hypocrisy!), but on the whole reasonable. The only thing that sticks out is his most recent post:
My point is that, if your flavor made you think you were Insane or Paranoid, why would you go whole-hog pushing the lynch of a person who your investigation seemed to clear (Insane) or tell you nothing about (Paranoid)?
Your logic requires the confirmation that Hellsnake is really a miller; how do you know this?
A claimed miller will, 99.9999999999999999999999% of the time, return scum to sane cops; either because he is a miller or because he is scum claiming miller to explain an investigation labeling him scum. The only way that doesn't happen is if the claimer is non-miller town, ITP or godfather, claiming miller for NO REASON AT ALL.
Okay, now for something completely different: Kyle/Sopko. His flavor fixation took up a lot of Day 1, and still irks me something fierce. Day 2, he throws a nigh-contentless vote on Hellsnake - asking for clarification on some wording, and mainly justifying the vote with suspicion from Day 1. He does follow that with a good post about Hellsnake's play and scumminess, and then disappears with this:
And to Nathan, I know it's an uncomfortable suggestion, but look at it. We still lose him tomorrow if he's telling the truth, and if he's lying, we lynch a scum. Lynching a scum is NEVER gaining nothing. If you came out against this from the position that his lynch tells us nothing, it'd make a little more sense, but if he ends up being scum it is not. I never said that we should forget looking at everyone else either.
And to Nathan, I know it's an uncomfortable suggestion, but look at it. We still lose him tomorrow if he's telling the truth, and if he's lying, we lynch a scum. Lynching a scum is NEVER gaining nothing. If you came out against this from the position that his lynch tells us nothing, it'd make a little more sense, but if he ends up being scum it is not. I never said that we should forget looking at everyone else either.
And THAT strikes me as all KINDS of bad. "he's not even sure that he's been slowkilled, because it's pure flavor and inference, but if we mislynch him, hey, he was going to die anyway, right?" NO! Bad! Arghle! Losing a townie by nightkill is bad, but losing a townie to mislynch is far worse, because a nightkilled townie doesn't represent a lost chance to kill scum. If there were any chance of Kyle actually being lynched today, I'd vote him over Pietro and Bill both, but that doesn't seem quite possible, so I'm going to read through the topic again and try to decide between our frontrunners. Offhand, I'd say I'm peaning towards Dread Peter.
