Super, I'm not neglecting your mistakes at all. The entire game, we've been lynching people who've messed up and played poorly, because we didn't have much else to go on and townies really shouldn't be showing those sorts of scumtells. If I had nothing else to go on, I'd default to you, because in sum total you've made more errors than LD has. It's true that your blundering doesn't prove you're a "blundering townie" at all, since you could just as easily be "blundering scum" if I'm starting with the assumption that you're gonna make mistakes no matter what. However, I can't make sense of your play if you're the scum. Right now, why would you be acting suspicious of me unless you were a genuine townie? If you were scum, wouldn't you be encouraging my thought process on LD and driving the two of us towards a confrontation? How about day 1; when Tom had a lead in votes, why'd you vote for Andrew and tie it up? Nobody would have given it a second thought if you'd helped push Tom to a lynch right away, and you wound up on his train anyway, after a conspicuous train jump in the form of a hammer. There's no scum motivation for this stuff. Your mistakes show bad play, but they're all isolated blunders; I can't see any scum framework in them. Maybe it's my mistake to be looking for a plan in the first place, but I don't think somebody gets chosen as the sole scum and then phones in a performance with zero thought and completely random decisions throughout; there's a
little motivation there to be on the ball.
I
am using the information out there, not just speculating. Exact quotes and a study of both of your voting records (which are very tangible) are what I'm basing all of this on. If I'm not allowed to make educated guesses based on those in order to try and get inside the scum's head and figure out who he is by working backwards, assuming that either one of you is the scum, and then trying to see how things fit? Which, incidentally, yielded absolutely nothing coherent for you and plenty for LD? Well, I'd like to hear the alternative. "Tally up all the mistakes and vote for whoever's made the most" would certainly lead me back to you rather than LD, but I don't think that's the worthiest method. You can always accuse me of WIFOM whenever I try to guess what a scum is thinking by saying "Ah, but a scum would -know- you'd think that way and plan it just so!" but this actually isn't always true because sometimes, like in this case, it's not
possible. Even if super knew I'd react to all of this in just the way that I have, he literally couldn't have made it happen this way, even if he were a master of planning, because so much of it was in LD's behavior. It's not WIFOM if the guy across the table was literally incapable of moving the wine. A sensible, logical deduction obviously isn't as good as definitive proof, but we haven't got that, so I'll take it.
That would be why I said it might be some weird self-insertion thing, because if I had intended to do that I would indeed have wanted the personal plural rather than the third plural.
You've explained why you
say you made the pronoun error, I just don't believe it. Of course you didn't intend to do it; that's how slips happen. The "they" slipped out unintended and you're explaining it off as an accidental possible sort-of perversion of "we." I don't buy it. No, it
isn't rock-solid proof or any proof at all. It's just support for the fact that I can envision the whole game happening if you were the scum, but can't see it if super was the scum unless he were actually rolling dice to decide all of his votes and kills and it just so
happened to fall out this way, and I just can't see that as the behavior of a lone scum.
How is the scenario you outlined any less easy than going for your original target? It may not have been as obvious, but everything fits perfectly to you, makes perfect sense. Isn't that a little weird, a little too cookie cutter?
If you're honestly suggesting (and you seem to be) that super's a scum who laid everything out just so in order to make me reach the conclusions I've made, then I flat-out don't believe that. I
would believe it if it all turned out to be coincidental, and his actions were arbitrary, in which case I'd feel silly, but it makes no sense for this all to be part of his plan. It's not "a little too cookie cutter," it's not
nearly so clean as that and it'd be insane for the scum to gamble on my decision to look past simple bad play when that's what I've been hunting all game. Super didn't plan for me to be reading this far into it; I'm either reading something complex out of absolute coincidence, totally out of thin air, or it's your doing, and too many little, unaccountable assessments add up for me in confirmation for me to dismiss it.
I have a question for you, Otter: where has super been while we're hashing this out? I know he's been around. Doesn't it make sense for him to leave us to self-destruct rather than risk us turning on him because of something he says in the midst of it?
Not particularly. If any one of us disappeared altogether on this final day, it would clearly be a case of intentional lurking in an effort not to give anything away. All three of us have good reason to be active today, because the players who are active in the discussion ultimately decide who's going to be voted for.
We've got under a day to do this. I think we should vote sometime tonight. Right now, the game only makes sense to me if LD is the scum, so that's how my vote will go as of right now.
