I wish I knew what to say. I think Otter's really stretching it with that argument about the pronoun I used. It's not a clever explanation to diffuse a "slip" -- it's grammar. I said "they" instead of "we" because I was indicating what other people, not including myself, had said. Refiguring the plural in the short correction I posted afterward made me consider if I did something weird in my head with who I was talking about. Simple as that.
You can make up all the clever scenarios you want about why things are the way they are, Otter, but in the end all you have against me is the fact that I said "they" instead of "we" and that you say it makes more sense for me to have left you alive than for super to have done so. That is so ridiculously flimsy and wouldn't even get a second glance at any other time than LYLO.
Maybe I was wrong to dismiss that Otter was more zealous than scummy. What super said -- "all the scum had to do to win this game was look like a townie and provide content" -- makes a lot of sense. I had been working under the idea that I should search for "scummy behavior" and go from there, but ... there's no reason to *have* the kind of scummy behavior that phrase usually refers to when so much of what that is turns out to be a result of having one or more buddies to look out for in the game. Without that restriction, this game is entirely different, as are the parameters of behavior to look for.
The one thing I had trouble finding a place for is why on earth Otter-as-scum would want to avoid the easy choice in going for super. I couldn't make any sense of it, and that lead me to believe that he had to be town -- why would scum want to DELAY hammer? But now... I wonder. A game like this, without any need to consult with buddies, with only 6 other people, a number of which shot themselves in the foot... it seems like the perfect game to stretch your ability as a Mafia player, try something a little more risky than you'd dare in a normal game. Something like trying to lynch the player who DIDN'T have heavy suspicion over their head going into the final day?
It sounds ridiculous, but after the text from Day 3 ... I just don't know. I can still see all the reasons super would be scum. I still have a hard time thinking that Otter could be scum. But if I remember that one scum plays a lot different than two+ scum, it begins to make a lot of sense. The mistakes super made would turn out to be simple errors in judgment, a result of a very loose playing style rather than scum accidentally letting it show. The things Otter has done, though... it begins to look a lot worse.
Missing the end of Day 1, not leaving a vote -- could have been because super jumped the gun on the hammer, but it wouldn't've been hard to type up a quick "Here and formulating a post, please wait," especially for an experienced player who should be aware that things move quickly at that point. Pushing on Andrew regarding the roleclaim -- it was something I had picked up on, too, that's true, but Otter did misrepresent himself ("You were at two votes, I was at two votes, and Tom was at two votes. ... one of top three..." when Otter wasn't in any danger whatsoever). Pushing for votes Day 2 when we still had a significant amount of time left before deadline. Specifically pointing out that we agreed ("Good to see Door's analysis lining up with mine; it means I can't just be seeing things in thin air") and then using that against me here ("LD has a great deal to benefit by leaving me alive, who agreed with her so regularly"). Basing his entire case against me on a string of logical deductions and the "evidence" that exists in creating confusion over a single pronoun from page 2. The things Otter points out would have been beneficial for scum-me in this endgame scenario? Yeah. He doesn't mention they're the exact same things that benefit him.
All of those things put together look like the behavior of /lone/ scum -- not making mistakes we say scum would make, like Tom's absence+rolling over or Andrew's evasiveness, but actually behaving like scum.
In any normal game, I'd still be inclined to go with super. The mistakes he made are not as inconsequential as Otter is making them out to be. However, this is not a normal game. Considering the game in terms of a lone scum versus typical scum-team makes things come out in a much different light, and for me, now... I think it's on Otter.
This is essentially the last post I'll have time to make before deadline, so I'm going to have to plunge in and drop a vote.
##VOTE Otter
