How do you like your steak?

[OblivionKnight]

You need an "other" option, at least for me.

I like my steak the way I like my women - young, lean, and hot

[Veryslightlymad]

I like my steak the way I like my women ---- forked on my kitchen table.

DJIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN! Is delicious, ludicrously expensive Kobe beef any easier to buy in Japan, where it's actually from? Or is it as much of a rip-off as it is over here?

[074]

Medium-well in this case.  I don't have steak often, but I usually like it a good deal.

...I much more prefer the lean cuts, though.  Fuck gristle.

[Anthony Edward Stark]

Medium-well in this case.  I don't have steak often, but I usually like it a good deal.

...I much more prefer the lean cuts, though.  Fuck gristle.

With how much you're cooking it, almost all gristle should cook out.

[Ranmilia]

The guideline I grew up with was "it's done when there's no more pink.  If there's pink in the meat, that means it didn't cook all the way through, and you're apt to get E. coli and die if you eat it."

Hygenic commentary aside, I still very much prefer thoroughly cooked meat.  Hal's tried to get me to at least order medium sometimes but I remain unconvinced.  >_>

[Niu]

Medium for regular steaks.
Medium-well or well done for breaded ones, especially the Wellington styled.

[Ultradude]

The guideline I grew up with was "it's done when there's no more pink.  If there's pink in the meat, that means it didn't cook all the way through, and you're apt to get E. coli and die if you eat it."

Hygenic commentary aside, I still very much prefer thoroughly cooked meat.  Hal's tried to get me to at least order medium sometimes but I remain unconvinced.  >_>

E. coli contaminates the outside of the steak due to unclean butchering procedures. As long as the outside is seared, you can't get it, even if the inside is raw and bloody. I... imagine there's something that can live in the muscle itself that might pass on to humans, but that'd be about a million times more rare than e. coli.

Ground beef, on the other hand, does need to be plenty hot the whole way through, because everything is being mashed together, so any contaminated surface can get the whole batch.

[Anthony Edward Stark]

The guideline I grew up with was "it's done when there's no more pink.  If there's pink in the meat, that means it didn't cook all the way through, and you're apt to get E. coli and die if you eat it."

Hygenic commentary aside, I still very much prefer thoroughly cooked meat.  Hal's tried to get me to at least order medium sometimes but I remain unconvinced.  >_>

E. coli contaminates the outside of the steak due to unclean butchering procedures. As long as the outside is seared, you can't get it, even if the inside is raw and bloody. I... imagine there's something that can live in the muscle itself that might pass on to humans, but that'd be about a million times more rare than e. coli.

The one that comes to mind is Mad Cow, which I know, does not actually live in muscle tissue.

Also: god, my delicate culinary sensibilities have been offended by Alex's parents. FUCK.

[Grefter]

Has Hal tricked you into having a Wagyu Beef steak Alex?  Try that Medium.

My parents burn it until it is black.  I don't like steak.  The only good stuff I have had was quality stuff done Mediumrarish.  Tasted good.  Cost way to much.  Thankfully I wasn't paying for it.  Didn't finish it anyway, filled up on their amazing mash potato.

[Ranmilia]

Well, those guidelines mainly come from Boy Scout camp cooking, so yeah we weren't talking about fine steak there.  Just carried over to home cooking.

Hal dragged me to a pretty good restaurant for steak here one time, that was... okay?  Tasty but not $howmuchitcost tasty to me.  Also tried at his apartment a few times, which, well it was meat and I like meat!  Would still prefer it cooked through though.

[Ultradude]

The one that comes to mind is Mad Cow, which I know, does not actually live in muscle tissue.

Also: god, my delicate culinary sensibilities have been offended by Alex's parents. FUCK.

This one was my medical sensibilities being offended by, apparently, Boy Scouts.

Curse them and their lack of baked goods.

[Shale]

Yeah, if scouts don't sell cookies, what good are they?

[Veryslightlymad]

What Alex is saying about steak is arguably true about things like hamburgers, where the meat is ground up, instead of a solid block----basically, in a hamburger, the outside part of the meat that could have potentially been contaminated is strewn all throughout the entire burger, because it's been ran through a grinder.

You'll still totally not get sick by eating a medium-cooked burger, though.

[Anthony Edward Stark]

Well, you still could, but if you do it's because you ingested something that would have gotten you sick regardless of preparation.

Still, not surprised at how many people respond with "I don't like steak but when I eat it I eat it well." From five years of restaurant work that is usually the case with them.

[Grefter]

When quality steak costs me like $20 to get not great stuff that tastes like shit then there is fuck all reason to buy it.  When I can buy a well made steak for $50 that I enjoy then it is worth it.

[Niu]

I now feel lucky that I can find good steak with less than $15

[Grefter]

I question how good that steak is (And $20 is also you know steak for 3 or so people not eating out).

[Anthony Edward Stark]

When quality steak costs me like $20 to get not great stuff that tastes like shit then there is fuck all reason to buy it.  When I can buy a well made steak for $50 that I enjoy then it is worth it.

Do they not run cattle at all there? That seems amazingly expensive. I mean, here in Oregon, $20 is like two above-average, good-sized steaks.

EDIT: Unless you mean buying one at a restaurant, in which case, I would say stop not cooking your steaks yourself. The markup is huge.

[Grefter]

$50 is at a restraunt.  We do run cattle, that is one of the only thing we can do out on out back properties and whatnot.  $20 is for 2 good sized bits of steak.  Not good quality but good sized.  If I bought steak for more than 2 people I would get stabbed by siblings.

Again though, a piece of really quality steak is going to set me back more than it is worth the effort just to cook it.

[DjinnAndTonic]

DJIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN! Is delicious, ludicrously expensive Kobe beef any easier to buy in Japan, where it's actually from? Or is it as much of a rip-off as it is over here?

It is -less- of a rip-off, but it's still pretty expensive.

[Veryslightlymad]

Well, based on reputation alone, I thought it'd still be pretty damn expensive, but I wanted to know if it was something that maybe you could afford to make a special day/date of and not, you know, feel like an idiot at the end of the night when your date invariably gives you a cold, emotionless kiss at the door and leaves never to talk to you again.

[Scar]

50 bucks for steak? Ouch! I buy my own flank steak and cook it my damn self!

~

But I enjoy Medium Well most of the time if I am eating out.

I used to only enjoy my steaks Well Done, but my brother introduced me to the juicier side of the dish and I now prefer them a little pink.

[DjinnAndTonic]

Well, based on reputation alone, I thought it'd still be pretty damn expensive, but I wanted to know if it was something that maybe you could afford to make a special day/date of and not, you know, feel like an idiot at the end of the night when your date invariably gives you a cold, emotionless kiss at the door and leaves never to talk to you again.

Can't say I've ever had that problem, so you're probably safe buying Kobe-gyuu in Japan.

[Grefter]

You people know nothing of the joy of going out for a good meal, paying for a good meal and the satisfaction of having to do nothing more for it.  This is one of the very few positive things from the capitalist system.

[Luther Lansfeld]

When I go back to Oklahoma I like to get their tasty 10 dollar steaks + two sides meal. <3 that about Oklahoma