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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2575 on: October 29, 2011, 04:05:30 AM »
Captain: Huh. So you could be a new player, try your hand invading with a cracked red eye orb from the beginning and draw a lvl 700 uber character? Are you sure? I heard those guys are lonely.

That's what I've heard anyway.  PvP is pretty fucked up in general though because of the server crap.  In the meantime, here's an amusing video.  I thnk this guy is ranked number one right now.

Dark Souls PvP - Big Hat Logan visits Kiln of the first Flame
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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2576 on: October 29, 2011, 11:42:10 AM »
Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song - So, SO much done.

Assassins' Guild was cake.
Wiped many, many times to Jewel Beast Lair pillars, but I beat all four and the fixed encounter down below.  So happy~.
Got my ass handed to me SO hard by the Silver Dragon when I went to try fighting it again.  Ow.
Not sure what I'm supposed to do at this point.  There's so many options it makes my head spin.

EDIT: And Jamil has unlocked the Rogue class.  Win~.

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2577 on: October 29, 2011, 11:47:06 AM »
Captain: Huh. So you could be a new player, try your hand invading with a cracked red eye orb from the beginning and draw a lvl 700 uber character? Are you sure? I heard those guys are lonely.

That's what I've heard anyway.  PvP is pretty fucked up in general though because of the server crap.  In the meantime, here's an amusing video.  I thnk this guy is ranked number one right now.

You're on the 360 right Capain?  I've read there are guys using hex edits and other terms I don't understand to cheat like little bitches.

There is a massive war going on between the "Dark side" (dragons, serpents) and the "Fire Side" (Gods like Gwyn, Nito, etc)
As seen in the intro, dragons ruled the world at first. Then heroes of the fire side appeared:
- Gwyn
- The witch of Izalith (who became the bed of chaos boss)
- Nito
- The furtive pygmy.
The first three owned the dragons. Then the age of fire started ,as Gwyn became the official guardian of The Big Fire Thing.
Pygmy didn't do jack shit, though. In fact, a prophecy appeared, telling that the pygmy's descendants would pwn Gwyn and start a new dark age of humans. (Looking back, the dragons might have invented the prophecy)
Gwyn got paranoid as hell and locked all of pygmy's descendants (including the main character) in a prison.
One knight, probably working for the dragons/serpents, then released the main character to send him on a killing spree against the people who locked him up with seemingly no good reason. And also because he might think he could end this tyranny and start a new age of humans.

Meanwhile, Gwyn and all his friends naturally try to murder the hell out of the main character.  If all goes according to the plan, MC kills everyone and leaves, he becomes some dark lord. The fire disappears. MC was probably manipulated into thinking humans would rule but really dragons+serpents own everybody. Bad ending.

Gwyndolin and Fraampt are clever bastards though, and threw a wrench into that plan. They thought they could manipulate the MC, too. So Gwyndolin created Gwynevere, pretty much the only really friendly figure in the whole game (with large breasts), to convince MC to try igniting The Big Fire Thing. Well, if he does that, he burns alive, the gods have won, and a stronger age of fire starts. Bad ending.

What I still don't understand is why normal people can become hollow. Among other things.


TL;DR version: Life sucks.

So this was fun... And I'm still not tired of it. Will restart as a priest soon. Or as a pyromancer?

Oh boy, time for all sorts of spoilary words!  I haven't had a chance to talk to a certain someone yet, so I don't have the full story on some things though.  So, here's how I see things...

Age of Ancients, only dragons.  Then Fire comes and causes contrast in the world.  Nito, Witch, Gwyn and Pygmy find their Lord Souls within the Flame.  The Pygmy's Soul is different though, unlike the others Fire Souls, his is the possibly titular Dark Soul.  They all band together and fight the dragons with Seeth and succeed, ending the Age of Ancients and starting the Age of Fire.  The three lords congregate near Lordran, while the Pygmy's descendants humanity spread across the world.

Time passes, the children are birthed and such, Quelana is exiled from Izalith, Gwyn's firstborn the War God is expunged from the annals for some transgression.  Priscilla is born and locked away because the gods are fearful of Lifehunt.  Around this time, the Lord Souls begin to lose their luster(possibly because of the Pygmy?)  The Witch of Izalith attempts to recreate the First Soul, but fails, spawning the Bed of Chaos, the Demon Firesage and all other demons.  Quelaag and Quelaan escape from Izalith but are still caught in the corrupted energies of the Bed and are mutated.  The Old Fire Arts are forgotten, and the exiled Quelana's pyromancy in the Great Swamp is all that remains.

With one of his oldest allies gone and his own power waning, Gywn departs to link the First Flame and restore the power of Lords.  His Knights split into two groups, the Silver Knights who would guard Anor Londo and the Black Knights who would follow him and combat the demons en route to the Kiln.  He splits portions of his own Lord Soul off and hands them to Seath and the Four Kings of New Londo.  Gwyn makes it to Kiln, but it's unclear to me if he succeeds or not.  I'd wager he failed but the game makes mention of both ways so mmm.  The Black Knights are incinerated in the First Flame, becoming wandering spirits and Gwyn becomes the Lord of Cinder.

Without Gwyn around, Kaathe begins making his moves, he offers power to the Four Kings, they accept, but they grow greedy and arrogant and turn away from Kaath's plan.  The Sealers of New Londo, fearing how great the Four Kings are, flood the city and seal them in the Abyss.  Gwyn's firstborn returns to Anor Londo to visit his father's tomb and vanishes again.

Now for some bizarre speculation.  Around this time, Gwynevere leaves Anor Londo with the God of Flame.  Without his sister to maintain hope in Anor Londo, Gwyndolin makes an illusion of her to maintain things and rule instead.  Gwynevere's handmaidens are taken by Seeth(or offered to him by Gwyndolin) and turned into the blue-snake-ocotpus mistakes while he slowly grows mad making efforts to research immortality.

Outside of Lordran, humans begin to be branded by the Darksign(because of the Fire Keepers?).  While not dangerous at first, they eventually become Hollow and mindless and dangerous.  So the Undead are corralled (most possibly by Thorolund) to the Northern Undead Asylum to wait the end of the world.  An old legend, passed down by the family of a Nameless Knight of Astora, tells of a Chosen Undead who would make their way to Lordran and succeed Lord Gywn.

Or so Kingseeker Frampt says, but Kaathe instead offers the opposite, that instead of being Gwyn's successor, you are the Pygmy's successor and are being used by Gwyndolin/Frampt to maintain the Age of Fire, while Kaathe/Pygmy want to usher in the Age of Dark.

Now, the Age of Dark, it immediately seems obvious that it's the Age of Humans y'know?  Kaathe straight tells you it is.  But no, I think differently, it's not the age of humans, but the Age of Undead.
-The DARKsign brands the Undead.
-Serpents, imperfect dragons, are symbols of the Undead.
-The Darkwraiths steal Humanity from their foes.

Now, in the end, was Gwyn restoring the First Flame to stop the Age of Dark out of fear?  If so, fear of losing his own power?  But he certainly lost that when he became Lord of Cinder, and he gifted away portions of his own for others to use, and the Four Kings had to have been Human if Kaathe wanted to use them.  And if he had succeeded, that would have meant sacrificing himself.  Unless Linking the Flame doesn't cause that and meaning the Chosen Undead survives.

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2578 on: October 30, 2011, 12:09:27 AM »
RH: Home stretch. The story hangs together pretty darn well now that I know the Big Twist. Heiss is total hax, though. I just get to travel through time and use Mana Bursts, he can rewrite my memory and raise the dead? Haaaaaaaaaaaax.. I'm at the Four Guardians node now, tried the superboss battle but got destroyed.
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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2579 on: October 31, 2011, 01:03:16 AM »
Blue Dragon - Completed. Final time 38 hours or so, final level 45... generally everyone was around Level 30 in one class and 15-20 in two more, though it varied.

The final dungeon's major bosses (eye laser dinosaur, pyro dragon, giant robot, finals) were extremely challenging! I definitely had to make good use of my various classes/skills and the charging-attacks systems which are core to the gameplay. This was pretty much exactly what I was hoping for when I decided not to do any sidequests. Challenge-wise, the game starts off terrible for randoms and okay for bosses, but the bosses get worse over time, as most of the ones on disc 2 and all the ones on disc 3 before the final dungeon are terrible. Personally this makes it very hard for me to enjoy a game which I'm definitely playing for gameplay and not plot, so I went straight into the final dungeon, and yeah, generally had a great time. The final dungeon is about 7 hours long which is nearly a fifth of the game, and not only has the aforemntioned good bosses, but also some solid randoms which actually required me to form strategies for the best way to deal with them! So good. I really can't stress enough how this is the most enjoyable part of the game.

I've mostly talked about the gameplay already. The system is good, and pretty much remains so throughout. Only nine classes, but really, it's more than enough; I think Blue Dragon and FF13 have proved to me that games going for 20+ doesn't really add much; it's closer to clutter if anything. I appreciated that the manual included what all the skills were so I could form plans without consulting the internet. Class balance could be better just because Black Magic is stupid for most of the game (and still great at the end) but isn't terrible, most classes have a use certainly. The game strikes a pretty nice balance between levelling up in a class for stats and levelling up in different classes for their awesome skills (and Generalist levels let you expand your skill slots in a nice way). Good stuff.

Character/plot stuff is of course less good. Shu was a pretty unlikable main at best, not really the most endearing of the "idiot main" trope and I rarely adore those anyway. The Suicide Counseller Shu scene which I've already ranted about firmly cements him as my least favourite talking main character since the last Xenosaga game I played, though. Marumaro is the other obvious offender, just rather loud and annyoing most of the time. Better than Shu because he's ultimately harmless and the Zola crush is cute. Jiro and Kluke are both pretty dull overall (Jiro is "the smart one" but isn't really that smart anyway, Kluke is pretty bland outside the love triangle silliness which is kinda funny). Zola's the best of the PC cast and this owes entirely to the last half hour of the game where they do some neat things with her. Would have been hilarious if she were the final boss! Well, even before then, she facepalms and Shu's ability to do stupid things and dive into trouble, and I approve of that too.

Of course, Nene is the highlight. Basically, Nene's only real motivation is to see people suffer because it is funny. This guy has immense magical power even before completing his Xanatos Gambit (which incidentally is pretty cool), commands literally thousands of combat robots and multiple mobile battle fortresses. He could kill or enslave millions of people whenever he felt like it. Instead he chooses to:
-annually send in a "land shark" to destroy houses of a village randomly once a year
-sends tsunamis at the world's largest city... which sounds boring until you realise that the tsunamis come from giant cubes of water which he has float in the sky for a week before crashing into a tsunami just to taunt the citizens.
-encase one particular town inside a magical forcefield, then give the townsfolk a controller that will let them take down the barrier... and then bury that in an underground factory just below the town guarded by killer robots.
-plant a tree that eats people in a town square, have it eat about four people per year, and plant other killer trees to lock people in this town
-afflict a town with a magical storm that freezes them, still sentient but immobile, should they ever step outside, and lets them know about this.

This isn't even going into the ways in which he trolls the party specifically which are also masterful. However, his trolling of the party serves a purpose. What he does to the rest of the world, though... there is no rational gain for him to do any of it, he doesn't extort or expect anything from the citizens of the world. He just has too much time on his hands. For a fluffy game like this, definitely my type of villain.

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I have decided that the game's plot makes more sense if the entire third disc is Shu's fever dream as he lays dying after being crushed underneath Nene's mech at the end of disc 2. I mean, let's review what happens after this:

-Shu somehow gets his magical powers back for a flimsy reason!
-Shu teleports himself and his entire team to a random location.
-Trees that eat people.
-Entire rest of party also regains powers for flimsy reasons.
-World gets sawed in half.
-Robotic dinosaur with eye lasers.
-Parakeet-type thing turns into giant super-weapon.

Uh huh. You must admit, my theory makes more sense than what actually happened!

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Visually the game looks nice enough despite the limits of choosing Toriyama as your character designer (nice monster/robot designs as always). The world map in particular looks very nice indeed. Musically the game is excellent, I definitely dug the 70's/80's rock influence evident in the soundtrack. Eternity is obvious but most of the mechanical dungeons and the final bosses stand out as also having good music.

I think the game ends up as a 6/10. It felt headed downhill but then the final dungeon comes along and saves it, totally justifying that good class system. So in the end, we have an excellent class system, some weak writing, and a game that is generally fluffy but quite polished and enjoyable enough otherwise. Pacing could be better, but it also wasn't as bad as I feared.


Class notes...

Swordmaster: Once I realised that Charged Attack worked with this it certainly got a fair bit better! Tends to be a little unimpressive without weaknesses to hit, but good when it can hit those. Mow Down's nice too. Not as powerful as Black Magic due to the much more limited multitarget and a bit less damage, but still good.

Black Mage: Obviously the overall best, smashes things in the face. Great damage of all varieties: ST, MT, GT. Elements helped more than hindered until the final dungeon, and even then, very little really walled the entire set (just one particularly memorable enemy I think). Smashy smashy. Also had Extracta and Regenerate MP, which meant you had infinite MP even without hurting your pocketbook.

White Mage: Also awesome, the Zephyr spells are great multitarget healing, as is the option of Double Item. Shina even lets it get in on the attack magic fun, and regen's a decent buff.

Monk: Charges so it can punch things. Attack Amp is also great, although forcing charging makes it situational. Good attack and Battle Essence lets you spread that to other classes, too, and has the counter skills... probably the best physical class overall?

Assassin: Long Range and Double Attack are both great investments for a physical setup, though a bit late and physical setups are more complicated/weaker as already mentioned. However, everyone loves Ninja Swiftness. Speed for everyone!

Guardian: Generally felt like the least useful class because enemies until the final dungeon didn't have the offence to make it feel worthwhile. Such is the nature of tanks. By the final dungeon, class levels for stats were a bit too important so I couldn't change my mind and start putting it to great use. Oh well, Max HP+25% is obviously a great skill and doesn't even need that large of an investment.

Barrier Mage: Apart from some grinding purposes, it's not great, although Shielda and Shella (mostly the former) were nice against the endgame bosses who didn't get too dispel-happy (looking at you, Ultimate S.).

Support Mage: Good stats overall, Quicka is great, Attack/Max HP buffs were also nice, Slow destroyed bosses until they started immuning it late disc 1. Doesn't provide much for randoms but Quicka is so important for the final bosses.

For my own builds... everyone had up to Black level 4 because it's so good at mowing through randoms for most of the game (and Extracta's nice). Everyone had their default job as their highest-level. Otherwise, Shu was Swordmaster with some Black/Monk/Guardian. Jiro was White Mage with some Black/Barrier/Assassin. Kluke was Black Mage with some Support/Assassin. Maru was a Monk with a fair bit of White/Black. Zola was Assassin with Black/Monk.


FF4: TAY and an FFX replay are now my focuses.

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2580 on: October 31, 2011, 02:43:25 AM »
DS:  Got bored with my main character, so started a new game with a Sorceror.  Holy fuck this is easy.  Granted, some of this is due to familiarity with the game.  But yeah, 30 shots of ranged magic with more buyable early is just insane.  Just freed Griggs, now I need money to buy all of his goodies.

Also trying the Master Key, and it's strange.  Why does it work on the Residence lock where the Gold Pine Resin is, but not the Residence lock where Griggs is?  Still, early access to Blighttown is never a bad thing.

Advance Wars DS:  Felt like playing this.  Finished up a campaign with Nell/Rachel/Olaf.  Only need to do one more with Jugger/Kindle/Hachi to get all the backgrounds (minus the one for 300 trophies).  Speaking of trophies, up to 245 out of 300.

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2581 on: October 31, 2011, 05:51:37 AM »
Dark Souls: Not really sure if I'm making progress or not. Just kind of wandering. Have rung both bells. Sen's Fortress seems like a later thing though. Beat Pinwheel in Catacombs, but scared of Tomb of Giants. Went past the sealed door in Darkroot Forest and dicked around with those guys. Found Darkroot Basin looking for a way up. Killed the dude with the bone club and got his ring. Encountered the Hydra and threw up my hands. Went back up to Darkroot Forest, got past the guys, encountered Sif. On the way back, noticed Alvina and joined her covenant (losing my one with the Priest guy back at Firelink). Think I can kill Sif with gear pretty close to my current gear.

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2582 on: October 31, 2011, 07:39:10 AM »
FF0- So.... just a few minutes into the game we see this tactical nuke going off in the name of Ultima Bomb. Then a couple of chapters in we discovered that l'Cie are actually walking nukes. And then when we thought we couldn't possibly get any more cradles, Alexander goes off.....
Just how the fuck this continent stayed in one piece???

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2583 on: October 31, 2011, 11:03:43 AM »
I like when the plot summaries in games make no sense if you're not familiar with a bunch of in-universe jargon.  It tells me when something is really poorly-written.  I swear to Alvis that Final Fantasy games are one step from referring to war as "Clabaghadrij" just to make it sound exotic.
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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2584 on: October 31, 2011, 03:05:42 PM »
FFTA2 - This one has been in the works for ages.  Done pretty much all the side missions up until the end of the game, no interest in finishing off whatever is left.

DQ4 - Started this up.  I really like how much they polished this up to be of fairly modern quality with stuff.  Then they still have people walking in place all the time and I have no idea why in the fuck.
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« Reply #2585 on: October 31, 2011, 05:56:58 PM »
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DQ4 - Started this up.  I really like how much they polished this up to be of fairly modern quality with stuff.  Then they still have people walking in place all the time and I have no idea why in the fuck.

Because if they didn't, Dragon Quest purest fans that make up 80% of the people who play these games would BITCH AND WHINE and boycott the series.

I mean, look at what happened with Dragon Quest 8.
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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2586 on: October 31, 2011, 08:50:12 PM »
I suspect "8%" may be closer to the truth than "80%", though they are loud and obnoxious and generally need a punch to the face.

FF4 TAY - Doin' the subterrane with a Rydia/Rosa/Edge/Ursula/Goblez team, will probably sub Goblez out for Cecil when I get him. I just beat Scarmiglione. Golbez obviously the MVP so far, like the good little jeigan that he is. Edge and Ursula are coming along decently, though I do have to agree that Edge is quite bad in the first part of the final chapter. The charge times on summons limits them, but a black mage is still great to have, as Bio is instant damage that is (for now) much better than what fighters manage, and Stop is great. Palom vs. Rydia (vs. both) is probably an interesting debate, as is Porom vs. Rosa (vs. Edward I guess, but I'm thinking MT Phoenix Down can't make up for Haste/Blink/Shell/Reflect/Dispel/Holy except in verrry specific parties).

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2587 on: October 31, 2011, 09:53:37 PM »
Edge fanboy. =)
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« Reply #2588 on: October 31, 2011, 10:50:45 PM »
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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2589 on: November 01, 2011, 01:18:40 AM »
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Dark Souls: So yeah, I restarted as a priest.
I'm trying to be human most of the time this time to see some of the hidden stuff like NPCs helping against bosses. It's hard. I'm trying to have a faith build to join the "Praise the Sun" guild (by the way, I always give a +1 rating to "Praise the Sun" messages), but other stats are much more important at the beginning of the game. There's not much of a point to more healing when you can't do damage and die more often by being overwhelmed than by not having enough resources. Other spells are mostly useless so far. Mace weapons don't sound too good compared to, say, halberds or spears so far either.

Anyway this is over since i have access to Blighttown larvas.
Divine Axe +5 and Spiked Bat +10, soon.

So far I have been invaded by NPC phantoms in the depths and Blighttown (near the fire)
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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2590 on: November 01, 2011, 02:47:04 AM »
My advice for Priest is don't put points in Dex at all.  If a stat starts at 8, just leave it there.  Part of what's wrong with my build - too many points spent covering trash stats.  Faith actually doesn't seem to improve healing much, oddly enough.  You will want to get 30ish Faith at some point, because Wrath of God is That. Damned. Good.

There's only a total of four NPC invaders, although Kirk shows up in three different locations.

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« Reply #2591 on: November 01, 2011, 07:15:25 PM »
Edge fanboy. =)

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Edge starting fast or slow depends on how much you do on the world map before going to the moon. Golbez starts gaining HP very late (L55? something), but the bigger problem is that he doesn't have the shiny status magic. The defense is nice though!
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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2592 on: November 01, 2011, 07:28:43 PM »
Golbez feels extremely jeiganish due to the whole "3000 HP when everyone else has half that or less" thing, along with getting a big head start on attack magic. Obviously the lack of status magic (mostly Stop is the one I find to be really paying off right now) is a downer but he's too good otherwise (even badly beating the other mages at speed for a while). I definitely see him unimpressing later on though.

The game glitched out and gave me a God Hand that nobody could equip! Quitting and reloading the game fixed that, but that was kinda weird.


FFX: As mentioned, replaying this. I'm up to Luca so far. Not much gameplay in the early going, and what's there is pretty easy, but it's enjoyable enough in that FFX way.

Writing is still just as sharp as I remembered. Highlights so far are the mindscrew that is Sin's attack on Zanarkand, followed by the general feeling of loneliness after Tidus arrives in Spira (basically up until he meets Wakka). I enjoy earlygame Lulu more than I remember, she is just incredibly harsh. She and Wakka have some pretty great scenes together, and I like how their respective pasts (as well as Yuna's) define their relationships with the weirdo who shows up claiming to be Jecht's son from a long-dead city. The game has some excellent world-building stuff too, with the ever-present Sin; the Kilika sequence is quite powerful (particular hype for the scene where Wakka explains why the world plays blitzball). Tidus' flashbacks and dreams involving Jecht are also always effective. Nothing really too new here, but yeah, game's good.

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2593 on: November 01, 2011, 08:25:22 PM »
Edge fanboy. =)

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Edge starting fast or slow depends on how much you do on the world map before going to the moon. Golbez starts gaining HP very late (L55? something), but the bigger problem is that he doesn't have the shiny status magic. The defense is nice though!

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2594 on: November 03, 2011, 03:14:12 AM »
If you think Wrath of Gods is good, you're going to love the sorceror, Captain.
I honestly find it pretty average, since it only gives me 3 shots of.. About 2 times the damage of a normal divine axe physical attack. It's easy to use but it sure doesn't help much against bosses.

I'm in Anor Londo right now, with a Divine Axe +8. I got every spell from Rhea and Petrus but they're still not very impressive. The cleric feels like a merchant , he has a bunch of utility skills but ultimately his stats are going to suck if you want to get a few good spells, and this isn't going to be worth it.
Tranquil Walk of Peace IS great, but it doesn't seem to have too much of an effect on bosses.

Even after my third playthrough in a row I've spent a lot of times just watching the scenery.


Front Mission 3: Realized that my first time through the game I didn't even realize different armor sets gave different skils and that you always had access to that. And I thought the game was dead easy especially compared to FM4. Wow.
So I restarted to try soloing the game. First two battles are a joke, then there's a crazy one where I was forced to use friends as meatshields who could give me repair kits, even if I never had them fighting. (I think I'll continue tu use them as meatshields if they're forced, but no repairs)
Thankfully after that battle you get access to the item shop + simulation battles, so I can truly start soloing. I'm currently grinding, getting skills (right now, 2 ROFUP 1 + 2 Zoom 1) and trying every kind of weapon. I'm probably going to stick with the default shotgun + melee combo for now, and stay the hell away from rifles.
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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2595 on: November 03, 2011, 03:33:04 AM »
Did you play FM5, Fenrir?
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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2596 on: November 03, 2011, 03:35:03 AM »
It's more about crowd control than boss damage.  You can run straight into the room with all the Cthulu critters in the Archives and take them all out in one shot.

DS:  Crystal Caves was not bad at all; I've seen that snow falling on platforms trick in another game.  Had several resets on Seath due to trying to cut off his tail.  Finally gave up on that and just threw lightning bolts at him.  The range on the bolts is slightly more than his maximum range on the breath laser, so he couldn't even touch me. (note: 208 damage on regular lightning spear versus both his forms).

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2597 on: November 03, 2011, 04:18:44 AM »
Nope Super, I'd really like to but my current PC couldn't possibly handle it.

Captain: I dunno, those abominations never felt like a threat to me. You get that miracle late, at a point where the biggest threats are powerful solo/duo enemies that get killed in two or three hits from it rather than a bunch of weak enemies. This miracle would have really helped in the Catacombs, New Londo and Undead Parish I guess...

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2598 on: November 03, 2011, 04:19:23 AM »
It is pretty amazing. I'll be in Scotland in december and can give you a memory card that lets you play burned disks!!! <_< yeah.
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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #2599 on: November 03, 2011, 04:22:58 AM »
Wrath of God is supposedly pretty good for PVP bullshit.  Controlling your character?  Ha!