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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1600 on: June 27, 2011, 01:26:51 AM »
As I thought yaay rando (bored) invisible man :P Keith was a solid PC though probably in the top three or four dependiing on people's varying Alice/Halley respect.  Too bad for Margarete /Zhuzhen. I think for SH:C it was probably more about trying to have a wide range of relatively diverse/interesting PCs to play around with ( Lucia exists as fluff/CT baits as a dancer w/th shiny and sparkly supports  ;-)) and character development ended up suffering as a result (or was at least more noticable as opposed to a smaller cast) I suppose it depends on how much the individual enjoys the battle system whether that trade off was worth it or not.

Breath of Fire III-  Wandering around after the Volcano. Both Garr's home place and the Junk Town have plenty of new shinies for buying but I'm not sure what I want to do there yet. The ones in the Junk Town are expensive but might be worth it. I seem to have been managing fine with just the basic equips I've managed to pick up/buy/found lying around though. The boss fight in the Volcano was easy despite consisting of three opponents. I had a L19 Ryu/L18 Nina/L17 Garr, Ryu had resist fire armour, Nina had the Fire Ring and they all had flame shots ... yeah. I went to town w/th Ice Breath and Mediate/Ice Blast with some Focus/Double Blows from Ryu to finish things off later. The old man's status didn't stick either but I think I might have still had a Dream Ring and stuffs on from exploring the lighthouse. Either that or I was just lucky. Current status Ryu L19, Nina L18, Garr L18 (Momo L13, Peco L1) Ryu has been with Bunyan since L1, Garr has been with Bunyan since he joined, Nina got the scrub skills from Durandal and has been with Yggdrasil for four or so levels (she also has the Mygas skills from Teepo), Momo is with D'Lonzo but hasn't really been levelled under her yet, only once I think. Been enjoying the game. Training Beyd was also fun. He won his duel. I want an uber Beyd~
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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1601 on: June 27, 2011, 04:06:22 AM »
How weird. I start thinking about MtG again and notice people are talking about MtG:O.

Does that platform actually get decent use?

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1602 on: June 28, 2011, 06:29:47 AM »
I'm blanking on Keith's backstory too. Thoughts along the lines of rando invisible guy joins my team yaay?~

Hm, true, forgot about him.
(That said, I also forgot both Blanca and Lucia existed at first when writing the SHC list, so...)
Still, 3/8 having personalities is somewhat worse than 4/6, especially when the villain's considered as well.

As it goes, I think one of the main differences in opinion here comes from the fact that I played SHC before SH1.

I can kinda see preferring Albert Simon to Kato as a villain if I really, really squint, but the implication that Halley and Zhuzhen have more personality than Karin is an opinion I never dreamed I'd see. I won't defend SH2's filler cast as being anything but (frequently unfunny) filler, but SH1's is the same way, and SH2's core cast wins very solidly to me (including Yuri 2 being notably better than Yuri 1!).

Anyway, 360 get, games from con get. So even before being whipped into Super Laggy RPG I have loads of stuff to play! So far I have played about an hour and a half of two games.

Radiant Historia seems really cool so far. It's going to need to step up the challenge to hold my attention, but there's potential there and the story presentation has been very solidly enjoyable so far. I was kinda worried that Stocke would be "cool" like Ryudo but he's actually a refreshing and highly enjoyable main, good stuff.

Bayonetta is insane. It's a bit early to make any comments of significance about the gameplay besides that I dig the witch time mechanic and the loading screen practice (randomly awesome idea there) but WTF to the game's general cutscenes and sense of style. This isn't WTF in either a good way or a bad way, just... WTF.

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1603 on: June 28, 2011, 10:15:19 AM »
Also, Cap / Doma: Are either of you on Magic the Gathering: Online?  Or just the 360 versions?
Alright, I'll bite. Getting this tonight. :)

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1604 on: June 28, 2011, 11:04:36 AM »
The Story of the Last Promise- Finally!! I can finally put down this god damning shota killing permadeath RPG!! Thank god this is finally over. Screw this game and the garbage that is known as Image Epoch. I should really just by the OST instead, the music really is the only pleasing thing in this game.

P.S.- For those who wonder why I even started on this game in the first place, it is because the game was drawn by a very renowned yaoi artist, thus by the virtue of yaoi, I have to finish this game. But fuck, why is a yaoi artist hired when the game is outright killing the shota!? The mental damage is twice as hard!

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1605 on: June 28, 2011, 02:36:11 PM »
So I had been playing Symphonia until one of the remaining GC controllers just stopped working.

Poo.

So, I bought Tales of Vesperia and Mass Effect...and Uncharted 1 for the missus.

No Vesperia for the PS3 annoys me, especially because of all the extra stuff added to the PS3 version. Grr.

I just met Flynn in ToV. Yuri seems decent. it's always nice to play a MC that doesn't annoy me from the get go. Karol on the other had.... you know I just hate little kids in RPGs. I'd like to play a game where adults run the story.

Oh, that's where Mass Effect comes in handy. It fits that description very nicely. I'll be borrowing my GFs 360 for the time being until ME is completed and then go back to Vesperia when our shifts correspond better.

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1606 on: June 28, 2011, 02:53:59 PM »
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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1607 on: June 28, 2011, 03:10:00 PM »
Dissidia Duodecim: Beat the 013 story. Argh to Chaos. Fuck you, normals that go through my normals and clash with my HP attacks. Fuck you worse, HP attacks with super armor and ridiculous tracking (hi, Divine Punishment!). Fuck you to death, undodgable teleport spin doom attack. Also, I'm a moron for picking the stage BRV boost panel. But I finally killed him, so yay!

Also, I spent half Chaos' plot scenes thinking "man, that VA kinda sounds like Keith David but I can't place him. Who the hell is it?" and then the credits rolled and it was Keith David. Facepalm.
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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1608 on: June 28, 2011, 03:28:55 PM »
I forget if Duodecim has it, but the original game, after beating Chaos the first time (in a scenario you may be ridiculously overleveled depending on how you approached Shade Impulse), Selphie actually would tell you exactly how to deal with ALL of Chaos' Moves.  don't think the properties of his moves changed, especially since fighting Chaos practically doesn't exist outside of 013 Storyline anymore and Quick Battles, but here's what I remember...

Brave:
Claw Swipes: Block.  Pretty straightfoward.
Wave of DOOM!: Dodge.  Blocking it staggers you, though the move isn't really painful, just annoying.
Spin Attack:Block Repeatedly.  The move seems to guard break cause it hits so many times and is a projectile (Thus doesn't stagger him), but actually isn't it, you just need to continually follow up.  It is Melee too so you can't dash through it either.  Note that a lot of defensive HP Attacks are great against this move; WoL's Shield of Light is a prime example as it blocks the entire thing *AND* is insured HP damage on him.
Dive Kick: Dodge or Block.  I think Blocking staggers you, but he doesn't follow it up, and you can recover out of it fast enough; if you're in air, it tends to put him at a disadvantageous scenario for anyone with good camping (Hi Bartz!)
Teleporting Shoryuken: Just dodge 3 times.  Its basically like fighting a Hell Vanguard.


HP Moves:
Divine Punishment: stand still (or just fall if in air) until the...6th? flame, then dodge the swords that converge in the middle.  If you can dodge them, you likely have avoided the attack.  It takes time figuring this move out.  Note there are some moves that completely MOCK this attack.  Terra's Tornado is the most famous example, as it blocks the entire first part AND punishes him before he fires the last part, as he does not have invincibility frames during it.
Flamethrower of Doom (forget its name): Attack him before he fires it; he's vulnerable to EVERYTHING while charging it, and its charge time is ridiculous.
Demon Dance: Dodge multiple times.  About the only thing you can do is learn the timing; basically, dodge whenever he teleports, ideally to the side.
Scarlet Rain: Block the Meteor Part, dodge the HP Damaging Fireball.  Like Divine Punishment, some HP moves can actually trivialize this attack, and block the entire thing, though some require better timing than others (Terra's Tornado works for example)

Utter Chaos: Dodge the sword slashes as best as possible, though don't fess if yo screw up.  What matters is not being on any of the circles at the end, so RUN OFF THEM.  Its pretty easy to dodge for most characters not Ex-death.

Chaos' fight is really more intimidating than it is hard but most of his moves have some way around them and the key is figuring it out.  After that, its more a case of "don't screw up" though there are some bullshit things like Divine Punishment being completely arbitrary if its going to hit you with the flame pillars or not (I still can't quite figure out how it determines that.  It'll only happen if you're moving, though, but how much seems completely arbitrary)


Frankly, I find Feral Chaos a much stupider fight if you ask me.
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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1609 on: June 28, 2011, 04:22:33 PM »
I just met Flynn in ToV. Yuri seems decent. it's always nice to play a MC that doesn't annoy me from the get go. Karol on the other had.... you know I just hate little kids in RPGs. I'd like to play a game where adults run the story.

Karol is almost a parody of little-kid RPG heroes, honestly. He's incompetent but he seems to think he's actually the hero of the game. And Yuri and the rest of the main cast beat this terrible terrible idea out of him. I say "almost a parody" because it's clear by the end of the game that he's had enough development that he's supposed to be likable and sympathetic (your mileage may vary on that, but at the very least he becomes 'competent').

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« Reply #1610 on: June 28, 2011, 07:32:29 PM »
HP Moves:
Divine Punishment: stand still (or just fall if in air) until the...6th? flame, then dodge the swords that converge in the middle.  If you can dodge them, you likely have avoided the attack.  It takes time figuring this move out.  Note there are some moves that completely MOCK this attack.  Terra's Tornado is the most famous example, as it blocks the entire first part AND punishes him before he fires the last part, as he does not have invincibility frames during it.

Demon Dance: Dodge multiple times.  About the only thing you can do is learn the timing; basically, dodge whenever he teleports, ideally to the side.

With Divine Punishment, just stop doing anything once the screen announces it, and there's a noticeable lag time after the flames come in before he actually starts doing anything. It's not very LONG, but it's noticeable. Use that to dodge away and start beating on him with Brave Attacks.

As for Demon Dance, the timing for dodging is as soon as you see him on the screen (sometimes this won't happen, but usually it does) you dodge towards him. That will propel you upwards, and give you the perfect positioning for almost any attack when he finally finishes. Also, the ceiling cap is so freaking high in that stage, that you don't need to worry about it screwing you unless he does this move two or maybe even three times in a row. >_>
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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1611 on: June 28, 2011, 08:50:32 PM »
Mass Effect 2: Finished with everyone alive, how is this hard? Besides the escort part its all pretty clear cut who you should choose. Used Legion&Jack for the final boss and gave the base to TIM for all his hard work because the way I see it can only turn out a couple of ways.

1: Like a surprising large amount of human supremacists he is actually a giant piece of shit (Reaper in this case) that strings humans along so they can kill all the other Reapers.
2: He really hates all aliens except when it comes to sexy time so when the Reapers have been dealt with he backstabs you and attempts to wipe out all Alien life with some kind of Giant killer human shaped robot.
3: He uses the Collectors seeker swarm to kidnap humans so he can upgrade them to Bio mutants/Cybermen.
4: He is actually an alright dude and uses the tech to own the reapers and then retires to earth as his job is done.


Glad I chose this over Dragon Age and ME3 seems like its going to be a day one buy for me.
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« Reply #1612 on: June 28, 2011, 09:09:53 PM »
Mass Effect 2: beaten a few times now.  Vastly prefer it to Dragon Age 2; squadmates are much better (Varric and Aveline are kinda bland but likable in DA2, and pretty much everyone else is utterly noxious), combat is more fun (since DA2 systematically ruined most of the virtues DAO's combat had), and Insane forces you to play attentively without falling back on fake difficulty.  Has issues with its cover system implementation and a few other things (quality of main plot, stupid mining minigame, poorly-conceived response limitations by current Renegade/Paragon score that end up stupidly incentivizing min/maxing your score instead of roleplaying) but not really worth complaining about at length.

Call of Duty 4: beaten in an afternoon out of morbid curiosity.  I sorta liked the original CoD back when it came out, maybe I'll like this!  Well not really because it's the exact same game.  Everything you do has been scripted for you; this is a game where nothing interesting can ever happen.  The only value I got out of it was laughing at how the game avoids naming any real locations for your generic Arab-extremist enemies to inhabit (we're deploying you to THE CAPITAL CITY, etc.).

Shadow Hearts: Covenant: just got Kurando, on my way to fight Terada.  My first playthrough was all about killing everything with physicals (Yuri/Kurando/Joachim/Karin, arc rage, etc.) so I'm gonna try benching Kurando and Joachim to focus on magic instead, maybe something like Yuri/Karin/Blanca/Anastasia at least.  I keep wanting to put Gepetto or Lucia in there but every time they fail to go first against randoms I bench them again, so.  Maybe I'll use some seals of speed or something later to make Lucia usable?  Also I like Blanca and Anastasia better than either of them anyway.  I should have gone with an FAQ this time, because I messed up the trading sidequest again and Idar Flamme took like two hours.  Bosses are all jokes; I think Lenny's boss form threatened me more than Veronica's, Rasputin's, or Nicolai's did.

Super Laggy RPG: just beat the Hammer Bros., who killed me a couple times.  Might have been easier if I'd waited till level 3, but am I really going to play a difficulty hack just to powerlevel?
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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1613 on: June 29, 2011, 07:44:33 AM »
Also, Cap / Doma: Are either of you on Magic the Gathering: Online?  Or just the 360 versions?
Alright, I'll bite. Getting this tonight. :)

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There's also some fiddly bits about stops that don't exist in real life as well.  I recommend stopping on: both your Main Phases; Your Declare Attackers / Declare BLockers; enemy Beginning of Combat / Declare Attacks / Declare Blockers; and Enemy End.  Set a stop during upkeep as needed (say, you have a tapper you want to turn off lands / opponent mana creatures).

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1614 on: June 29, 2011, 07:57:42 AM »
SLRPG: beat Croco.  I forgot to buy armor back in town, so surviving the turns once he starts double-acting was tricky.  After a couple tries I figured out that you can just wait till then to stun him with a Fire Orb and get twice the effect from his lost turn.

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1615 on: June 29, 2011, 12:45:26 PM »
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« Reply #1616 on: June 29, 2011, 03:54:09 PM »
MtGO stuff

Ack, didn't get a chance to get it the other day, since family stayed longer than expected. Will get it tonight, and will almost certainly be Yoshiken. =P
Thanks for the tips - was planning to mostly play draft anyways, since it's probably my favourite format and I don't get enough chances to play it where I am atm.

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« Reply #1617 on: June 29, 2011, 11:18:47 PM »
I may consider hopping on MtG:O as well. Maybe.

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« Reply #1618 on: June 29, 2011, 11:40:08 PM »
Breath of Fire III- Awesme kitty is back and even more awesme! Now I just have to decide the third member of my team~

Too bad Nina isn't a kyute little girl anymore!! ;_;
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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1619 on: June 30, 2011, 02:16:41 AM »
Regarding MtGO, a few questions I have that I couldn't find in my 3 minutes of searching on GameFAQs and the Mothership:

1. Do you start off with any cards, like a starter deck?
2. Is there any way to get completely free cards, such as them giving out one booster a month or something?
3. If I buy non-single real-world cards (i.e. boosters or prefab decks), is there a way to transfer them to MtGO?
4. I noticed that there's an option to buy your MtGO cards and have them send them to you as real-world. Is that available worldwide, or is is U.S. only like the Rewards?
5. Do they have the Un-series?


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« Reply #1620 on: June 30, 2011, 03:32:33 AM »
Regarding MtGO, a few questions I have that I couldn't find in my 3 minutes of searching on GameFAQs and the Mothership:

1. Do you start off with any cards, like a starter deck?
2. Is there any way to get completely free cards, such as them giving out one booster a month or something?
3. If I buy non-single real-world cards (i.e. boosters or prefab decks), is there a way to transfer them to MtGO?
4. I noticed that there's an option to buy your MtGO cards and have them send them to you as real-world. Is that available worldwide, or is is U.S. only like the Rewards?
5. Do they have the Un-series?

1. You pay 10 bucks for a M11 booster (to be an M12 booster in a month or so, I'm sure), 2 tickets (ticket = 1 dollar in in-game currency), and "over 300 Magic Online cards."  ( https://accounts.onlinegaming.wizards.com/ )   I believe this post has the exact contents. ( http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75846/25288009/Planeswalker_pack_lists ).  Considering the booster + tix is 5.50, I would not expect the 300 cards to be worth 4.50 - it's probably more like 2 dollars worth of commons & uncommons.
2. As already noted, you can get extremely cheap cards no problem for non-chase commons and uncommons.  Outright free?  Well, there are some players / bots who have free "take some, do not abuse system" policies, but these tend to be bottom of the barrel commons.  There's also a "player rewards" program. While you get the most points for playing in tournaments, you do get some points just merely from existing and playing casual games.  You can trade enough points in for things like alternate art cards.  Occasionally, everybody logged in from DATE to DATE will get a free card because of some promotion or event as well.
3. No.
4. You'll pay more for shipping, but yes, it is not US-only.  Also, it is on a set basis only.  (aka you can't cash out a tiny collection - you can only say "Give me all of Scars of Mirrodin" so that somebody isn't driven insane assembling your exact collection.  That means one of each and every card.)  And if it isn't already obvious, then when they ship them to you, the cards are subtracted from your online collection.
5. No, except for alternate art lands.  Would not translate.  How do you adjudicate "Gotcha!"?

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1621 on: June 30, 2011, 03:34:18 AM »
Mass Effect....

Ok, so is there a reason why the game hates me? Sometimes these surveys are real easy to punch in. Other times, even when I am quick with my button smashing the game won't let me survey things. It's starting to annoy me.

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1622 on: June 30, 2011, 06:00:12 AM »
Snow: If I have access to a healthy player base locally for actual, competitive card flopping, is there any particular reason to actually use MtG:O over one of the testing programs (Cockatrice, Apprentice, MWS, etc)?

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1623 on: June 30, 2011, 07:31:50 AM »
Mass Effect....

Ok, so is there a reason why the game hates me? Sometimes these surveys are real easy to punch in. Other times, even when I am quick with my button smashing the game won't let me survey things. It's starting to annoy me.

Why did they make using the survey function so......irritating?

You'd rather go back to ME1's mining technique?

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Re: Playin' any games today, Flying Nun? (WGAYP - 2011 Edition)
« Reply #1624 on: June 30, 2011, 07:36:28 AM »
The inability to physically beat your opponent for using Jitte.

As someone that has played multiple times on both PC and X-Box, honestly not sure Scar, I don't recall having problems with surveying back in ME1 on X-Box, but it has been a very long time.  I do remember the minigame being stupid.  I also remember with surveys specifically it isn't a big deal, you can just survey again afterwards anyway, so whatevers was always my response to when I fucked it up.  The game hates you because mining is fucking boring.  Edit - This is ME1 Zenny I think.  He is talking about the mini game when you actually find a mineral deposit (ie same fucking mini game you do for everything in ME1)

POKEMANS - Every plot sequence that has involved Ninjas is fucking stupid and should be cut from the game.  Seriously, this is a Pokemon game and I am hating on it for being to plot heavy.  I appreciate them shifting up the formula a little, but this is entirely inferior to RBY plot functionally.
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