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Season 63 Bootings
« on: January 29, 2011, 06:58:18 PM »
With Ranking Season going on and the general dwindling of DL interest, the case has been brought up that trimming some of the DL's bulk would be a good thing.  And so we turn to booting, the age old DL tradition of death, crime, and the RAGE OF A BEAST.  This will be a fairly inclusive topic, and will include both whole game bootings and cast reductions.

Whole game bootings were selected for being generally considered a) old, b) unlikely to attract new players (typically due to c) terribleness).  Large casts were selected based on, essentially, asking if we would rank a given character were the game to go through the more rigorous modern selection criteria.

Important- If you do not support bootings at all, please keep your post to a simple vote of Do Not Boot, complete with bold, in order to minimize clutter in an already cluttered topic.  Thanks.

Game Bootings- While the entire game is up for booting in these cases, the individual duellers will be listed for those who consider DL history, champships, producing Godlikes, and such forth as considerations in whether to keep a game ranked.

Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits

Darc
Kharg

Brigandine

Cador
Cai
Dryst
Lance
Lyonesse
Vaynard
Zemeckis

Legend of Legaia

Gala
Noa
Songi
Vahn


Lufia and the Fortress of Doom

Aguro
Hero
Jerin
Lufia

Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen

Aisha
Debonair
Destin Faroda
Endora
Fenril
Fogel
Gares
Norn
Rashidi
Rauny
Saradin
Slust
Tristan Zenobia
Yushis

Phantasy Star

Alis Landale
Myau
Noah
Odin

Tales of Destiny

Bruiser Khang
Chelsea Torn
Garr Kelvin
Karyl Sheedan
Leon Magnus
Mary Argent
Philia Felice
Rutee Katrea
Stahn Aileron

Tales of Eternia

Farah Oersted
Keele Ziebel
Max
Meredy
Reid Herschel

Vandal-Hearts

Ash Lambert
Clint Picard
Diego Renault
Eleni Dunbar
Huxley Hobbs
Kira Wulfstan
Sara


Character Specific Bootings- VITAL NOTE: I opted to be inclusive for these large casts.  Please read these lists carefully before voting: it's likely people you want to keep ranked are on the lists.

Chrono Cross

Doc
Draggy
Funguy
Irenes
Janice
Korcha
Leah
Luccia
Macha
Mel
Miki
Mojo
Nio-Fio
Orcha
Orlha
Pip
Pashul
Razzly
Skelly
Sneff
Sprigg
Starky
Steena
Turnip
Van
Zappa

Pierre
Guile
Nikki
Glenn

Final Fantasy Tactics

Alma Beoulve
Balk Fenzol
Celia
Izlude Tingel
Lede
Olan Durai
Rofel Wodring
Zalbag Beoulve


Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword

Bartre
Canas
Dorcas
Erk
Fiora
Hawkeye
Heath
Isadora
Legault
Louise
Lowen
Nino
Priscilla
Rath
Raven
Rebecca
Renault
Vaida
Wil

Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones

Artur
Colm
Cormag
Duessel
Forde
Franz
Garcia
Gerik
Innes
L'Arachel
Marisa
Neimi
Rennac
Saleh

Suikoden II

Amada
Anita
Chaco
Freed Yamamoto
Gabocha
Gengen
Gijimu
Karen
Kinnison
Koyu
Long Chan Chan
Lo Wen
Millie
Mukumuku
Rikimaru
Shin
Shirou
Sid
Simone Verdricci
Tsai
Wakaba

Write-ins will not be accepted in this topic, so don't make them!

Topic will run until the second stage of Rankings closes.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2011, 07:09:07 PM by Cmdr_King »
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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2011, 07:11:03 PM »
Keep to the entire game(s) listed. Lufia 1 in particular has been (Surprisingly) successful in the DL. For the rest, not so much a huge fan of knocking out entire games at this point. I don't think anything's really changed since the last time we looked at this. There is one exception noted below.

CC: Retire all but Starky, Sneff (At least memorable failure), Orlha, Poshul, Draggy, Guile, Glenn

FFT: Retire Celia, Abstain Alma, Zalbag, Olan, keep rest.

OB: Retire Norn

FE7: Abstain on Bartre, Dorcas, Hawkeye, Heath. Retire Louise, Nino, Wil, keep rest.

FE8: Abstain all but Colm, keep Colm EDIT: Keep Garcia

S2: Retire all but Freed, Gijimu (Ton of DL history, neat fighter), Mukumuku, Shin, Wakaba. Abstain Shiro
« Last Edit: February 01, 2011, 03:29:02 PM by superaielman »
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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2011, 07:58:55 PM »
Boot Arc the Lad 4, boot Brigandine, apathy on LoL and Lufia 1, boot Aisha, Norn, Rauny, Saradin, Yushis, Rashidi (all of the non-unique PCs and the fuckin' out of nowhere boss) from OB, keep to everything else, abstain on PS1, keep ToD, boot ToE, boot everything but Ash from VH.

As for culling the herds...
Chrono Cross: Keep Glenn, keep Korcha, boot everything else.

Final Fantasy Tactics
Boot: Alma, Olan, and Zalbag. Olan doesn't translate at all, Alma I consider pretty terrible and a lot of people don't and this annoys me (>_>), and Zalbag's just not a memorable boss.
Keep Rofel because I don't know he's sexy, keep Izlude because he's a memorable boss, keep Balk because LSP is Satan, keep Lede and Celia cuz I dunno, they are memorable.

Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword

Bartre- Boot. Not memorable.
Canas- ONLY DARK MAGE!! Keep.
Dorcas- Boot.
Erk- Keep. Possibly the most popular character in the game.
Fiora- Keep. Falcos are pretty memorable.
Hawkeye- Boot. Meh.
Heath- Boot.
Isadora- Boot.
Legault- Keep! He's fuckin' Legault/proto-Volke/pretty awesome.
Louise- Keep.
Lowen- Boot.
Nino- Boot.
Priscilla- Keep.
Rath- Undecided.
Raven - KEEP.
Rebecca- Undecided.
Renault- Keep.
Vaida- Boot.
Wil- Boot.

Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones

Artur- Boot.
Colm- Keep.
Cormag- B-k-b- wahhh!
Duessel- Keep.
Forde- Boot.
Franz- Boot, I guess.
Garcia- Boot.
Gerik- Keep.
Innes- Keep.
L'Arachel- Keep.
Marisa- Boot.
Neimi- Keep.
Rennac- Keep.
Saleh- Boot.

Suikoden II

Amada- Boot.
Anita- Boot.
Chaco- Boot.
Freed Yamamoto- Keep.
Gabocha- Boot.
Gengen- Keep.
Gijimu- Boot.
Karen- Boot.
Kinnison- Boot.
Koyu- Boot.
Long Chan Chan- Boot.
Lo Wen- Boot.
Millie- Boot.
Mukumuku- See Cormag.
Rikimaru- Boot.
Shin- Who? Boot.
Shirou- Keep.
Sid- Boot.
Simone Verdricci- Boot.
Tsai- Boot.
Wakaba- Boot.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2011, 05:41:55 AM by Ciato »
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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2011, 08:16:21 PM »
In general, inclined to boot the more obscure games to keep vote totals manageable.

Boot AtL4.  I argued vociferously for keeping Kharg and Darc before but that was before I knew some people let them have airship support which is a really horrible interp issue to my mind so meh.

Boot Brig and LoL.  Abstain Lufia 1, I'd be fine with booting it personally but super says it actually draws okay.

Boot OB.  Always on the obscure side, if a good game, so.  We also ranked a lot of optional / obscure characters but not near-mandatory and easy to interpret ones like Lans fearing game formsplit apparently, so meh.  If we kept one, I'd say Debonair - early boss form is pretty memorable, if nothing else.

Boot PS.  Maybe keep FW Alis, dunno.

Boot the "meh" Tales games, sure.

Boot VH.  Keeping FW Ash would be fine I guess.

CC...  keep the set-aside list of Pierre, Guile, Nikki, and Glenn.  Those are all pretty memorable.  Sure, go ahead and boot the rest.

FFT is fine.  Boot Zalbaaaaaaaag! I guess, Blood Suck is in an interp headache.  Everyone else is fine.  If Alma is an interp split, it's at least an interesting interp split.

FE7 was probably a bit overranked, but I have no idea what to cut, so it might be better just to keep them all.  Tentative abstain to Hawkeye, Heath, Rath, and Vaida (all of whom have questionable amounts of use - Rath rejoining really late for example).  Keep the rest.

FE8 is fine.  Abstain on Artur, Forde, and Franz.  Keep the rest.

S2 is massively overranked.  Boot them all.

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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2011, 10:39:32 PM »
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits
Keep them both.

Brigandine
Keep - Cai, Lyonesse, Lance, and Dryst
Boot - Cador, Vaynard, and Zemeckis

Legend of Legaia
Keep them all.

Lufia and the Fortress of Doom
Keep them all.

Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Keep - Destin Faroda, Endora, Fenril, Fogel, Gares, Rashidi, Slust, Tristan Zenobia
Boot - Aisha, Debonair,  Norn, Rauny, Saradin, Yushis

Phantasy Star
Keep - Alis
Boot - Myau, Noah, and Odin

Tales of Destiny
Boot them all.

Tales of Eternia
Keep them all.

Vandal Hearts
Keep them all.

Chrono Cross
Keep - Draggy, Glenn, Guile, Irenes, Janice, Leah, Miki, Nikki, Orcha, Orlha, Pierre, Pip, Razzly, Starky, Steena, Zappa
Abstain on the rest.

Final Fantasy Tactics
Keep - Balk, Celia, Izlude, Lede, Zalbag
Boot - Alma, Olan, Rofel

Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword
Keep - Bartre, Canas, Erk, Fiora, Legault, Nino, Priscilla, Rath, Raven, Rebecca, Wil
Boot - Dorcas, Hawkeye, Heath, Isadora, Louise, Lowen, Renault, Vaida

Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
Keep - Artur, Colm, Duessel, Forde, Franz, Gerik, Innes, L'Arachel, Marisa, Neimi
Boot - Cormag, Garcia, Rennac, Saleh

Suikoden II
Keep - Chaco, Freed, Gengen, Gijimu, Karen, Kinnison, Koyu, Lo Wen, Millie, Rikimaru, Shin, Shiro, Tsai, Wakaba
Boot - Amada, Anita, Gabocha, Long Chan Chan, Mukumuku, Sid, Simone

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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2011, 10:49:39 PM »
Not voting yet, but...I'm going to throw out stuff on the table. Like...Connie...for a rank that is supposed to be all about having fans, Connie was claimed for writeups...weeks after everyone else during her time in. If similar characters are like, not sure what the purpose of keeping them around is given that their end effect is to cause additional delays.

So, guess I'm saying bring up some of S1 and S3. Krin for certain (I'm...not sure that after being robbed by Hanako, who is almost universally agreed to be utter trash, that you really still should be in....)
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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2011, 10:57:59 PM »
Keep Legaia/Lufia1/PS1 for the Richardpremacy
Keep ToD so that bad game streak wasn't a complete waste

Kill Brig, AtL4

I'll let other people handle OB/VH/ToE/scrub lists aside from FEs, for the FE list I will copy-paste Ciato's with slight edits

Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword

Bartre- Boot. Not memorable.
Canas- ONLY DARK MAGE!! Keep.
Dorcas- Boot.
Erk- Keep. THE most popular character in the game.
Fiora- Keep. Falcos are pretty memorable.
Hawkeye- Boot. Meh.
Heath- Boot.
Isadora- Keep
Legault- Keep! He's fuckin' Legault/proto-Volke/pretty awesome.
Louise- Boot
Lowen- Boot.
Nino- Boot.
Priscilla- Keep.
Rath- Undecided.
Raven - KEEP.
Rebecca- Keep
Renault- Keep.
Vaida- Boot.
Wil- Boot.

Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones

Artur- Boot.
Colm- Keep.
Cormag- Boot
Duessel- Keep.
Forde- Boot.
Franz- Boot, I guess.
Garcia- Boot.
Gerik- Keep.
Innes- Keep.
L'Arachel- Keep.
Marisa- Boot.
Neimi- Keep.
Rennac- Keep.
Saleh- Boot.

« Last Edit: January 30, 2011, 11:43:24 PM by Nitori »
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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2011, 11:02:57 PM »
AtL4: Boot. Just finish the game off, Giant Owl is a stupid thing to have on one of your only remaining ranks. OH LET'S DECIDE IF THE ARENA IS INDDORS OR NOT GUYS

Brig: At the very least boot Cador, he's not even a main (actually I think it's silly that the non-playable-without-codes nation is the only one with two characters!). Abstain on the rest.

Legaia 1: Eh... abstain.

Lufia 1: Keep, think it's actually done pretty well as Super has said. As much as the game is complete shit.

Ogre Battle: I'd be in favour of some level of trimming, probably, but I dunno what. Keep Fogel and Fenril, abstain on the rest, and if someone wants to argue me on specifics please do.

Phantasy Star: Abstain.

Tales of Destiny: Abstain.

Tales of Eternia: If this one is still as bad at drawing as I remember, boot? If people still -care- about this game I will change this vote, so speak up. As is I'm under the impression it doesn't even have the Brig "hey people really like this game" excuse, so bye~

Vandal Hearts: Abstain.

Chrono Cross: Boot Janice, Pierre, Pip, Sprigg (all have specific interp problems on top of being CC). Keep Glenn, Miki, Nikki, Steena, and Skelly (because I like him; screw the rest of you). Abstain on the rest, wooo apathy.

FFT: Keep Celia and Lede. Boot Elmdor. Boot Zalbag because I hates my Blood Suck. Keep Alma, too much history there. Keep Izlude, Rofel, and Balk - these guys are memorable to me (Izzy and Rofel as characters, Balk because LSP is indeed satan). Abstain on Olan - memorable in plot and gameplay but that transition is argh.

FE7: Keep Fiora (middle finalist), Erk (memorable as first mage/personality), Louise (gets in-game use for that Pent support!), Legault (memorable), Raven (duh). Boot Nino due to that split on level. Abstain on the rest.

FE8: Keep L'Arachel (plenty of plot), Colm (Grefter), Rennac (Tonfa). Boot Forde (just because it's weird having him ranked and not Kyle), Garcia (replace Kyle with Ross, see previous). Abstain on the rest.

Suikoden 2: Keep Shiro (WOLF EAT EARLYGAME), Gijimu (former champ), Freed (forced/memorable). Abstain on the rest.


All abstentions represent highly arguable positions for me. Some keeps/boots are too, for that matter. 'cept Raven, that's crazy talk.

EDIT: All CC, FE, and S2 abstentions I am now switching to boots.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2011, 02:29:59 AM by Dark Holy Elf »

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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2011, 11:08:41 PM »
Keep all.  Will make comments later.  For now.
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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2011, 11:23:27 PM »
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits- Boot
Brigandine- Abstain (Where is my stat topic Super?!)
Legend of Legaia- Abstain
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom- Abstain

Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Boot- Norn, Yushis, and Saradin I think. Abstain rest

Phantasy Star- Boot
Tales of Destiny- Keep. This game has performed really well for the part (Even including the mystery that is Philia)
Tales of Eternia- Boot. This game, less so
Vandal-Hearts- Keep Ash, boot rest

Character Specific Bootings- VITAL NOTE: I opted to be inclusive for these large casts.  Please read these lists carefully before voting: it's likely people you want to keep ranked are on the lists.

Chrono Cross (This near completely random)
Boot: Janice, Sprigg, Pip, Van, Pierre, Doc, Funguy, Mel, Skelly, Turnip
Keep: Poshul, Leah, Gleen, Guile, Nikki, Draggy, Korcha, Luccia, Sneff, Starky, Steena, Zappa
Abstain: Irenes, Macha, Miki, Mojo, Neo-Fio, Orcha, Orlha, Razzly

Final Fantasy Tactics
Boot: Alma (Non equip changing temp...), Olan (Non-translating temp), Zalbag, Rofel. Keep rest

Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword
Boot: Bartre (Irrelevant), Dorcas (Ditto),  Isadora, Lowen, Nino, Priscilla, Raven (That's...a bad recruitment chain), Rath, Renault, Wil, Vaida
Keep: Canas, Erk, Fiora
Abstain: Louise, Rebecca, Heath, Hawkeye, Legault

Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
Boot: Saleh (Oh god, he's horrible), Duessel (He may have plot, but he's also kind of a Puny), Garcia (At least Duessel has plot), Rennac (Plotless, really bad, THERE ARE ALREADY LIKE 3 BETTER CHOICES FROM THIS GAME), Gerik, Marisa (Both of these are notably later than show others which is the ding)
Keep: Colm, Artur, Innes (Too much plot), L'Arachel, Cormag
Abstain:  Forde, Franz, Neimi (All early enough to make them questionable)

S1: Boot Krin, Milia, Sylvina, Yam Koo

S2: Retire all but Freed, Gijimu (Ton of DL history, neat fighter), Shin, Wakaba. Abstain Shiro

S3: Boot Alanis, Belle, Connie, Edge, Gagdet Z, three male dogs that weren't the main one, Lulu, Nei (You are awesome in game. It's is completely irrelevant DL wise), Rody, Sanae, Toppo

Earthbound: Boot all but Ness.
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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2011, 11:32:52 PM »
Oh right, more!

FF 9- Boot Blank, Marcus, Cinna. Highly limited early game never rejoining temps are bad.
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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2011, 11:59:04 PM »
What do you mean by 'bad recruitment chain'? You just need Priscilla to recruit him. (Who all you need to do is go into a house to recruit.)
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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2011, 12:14:26 AM »
Isn't it Erk->Priscilla->Raven. Truth be told, it's the using the L3 healer for recruitment that I find to be the bad part.
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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2011, 12:17:48 AM »
Erk's not involved. Priscilla is fiiine. Her +1 move on Serra means you should use her even if she's lower levelled!
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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2011, 12:22:29 AM »
+2 move, actually.

Also oh no, having to use a Lv3 healer with 7 movement to recruit somebody who charges towards you on a map with choke points and the terror that is FE generic enemies how will people manage  ::)

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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2011, 12:27:11 AM »
Guess I just naturally side with the more durable healer than never risks the doubles. Also, plotlessness isn't on their side, but Priscilla at least being recruitable by anyone helps.
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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2011, 12:33:09 AM »
I fail to see how kicking out anyone will cause interest to go up, but...

Do Not Boot

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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2011, 12:39:18 AM »
-Full games-
A vote for keeping for the full games does not imply that I would prefer keeping all the characters (or even any of the characters currently ranked, necessarily). It just means that I vote for the game to not be booted out of hand. I don't know most of these people anyway.

Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits - Keep
Brigandine - Keep
Legend of Legaia - Keep
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom - Keep
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen - Keep
Phantasy Star - Keep
Tales of Destiny - Keep
Tales of Eternia - Keep
Vandal-Hearts - Keep


-Individual characters-
Chrono Cross
 - Abstain on all

Final Fantasy Tactics

Alma Beoulve - Keep
Balk Fenzol - Keep
Celia - Boot
Izlude Tingel - Keep
Lede - Boot
Olan Durai - Keep
Rofel Wodring - Boot
Zalbag Beoulve - Keep

Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword

Bartre - Keep
Canas - Keep
Dorcas - Boot
Erk - Boot
Fiora - Boot
Hawkeye - Keep
Heath - Keep
Isadora - Boot
Legault - Boot
Louise - Keep
Lowen - Boot
Nino - Keep
Priscilla - Keep
Rath - Boot
Raven - Keep
Rebecca - Boot
Renault - Keep
Vaida - Boot
Wil - Boot

Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones

Artur - Keep
Colm - Keep
Cormag - Keep
Duessel - Keep
Forde - Boot
Franz - Boot
Garcia - Boot
Gerik - Keep
Innes - Keep
L'Arachel - Keep
Marisa - Boot
Neimi - Boot
Rennac - Keep
Saleh - Boot

Suikoden II

Amada - Boot
Anita - Boot
Chaco - Boot
Freed Yamamoto - Keep
Gabocha - Boot
Gengen - Boot
Gijimu - Boot
Karen - Boot
Kinnison - Boot
Koyu - Boot
Long Chan Chan - Boot
Lo Wen - Boot
Millie - Boot
Mukumuku - Keep
Rikimaru - Boot
Shin - Boot
Shirou - Boot
Sid - Boot
Simone Verdricci - Boot
Tsai - Boot
Wakaba - Boot
« Last Edit: February 01, 2011, 09:45:59 PM by Twilkitri »

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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2011, 02:18:42 AM »
Bootings are not needed.

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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2011, 03:18:26 AM »
Keep all games.

Really not worth it at this point. Any damage they could do has long since been done and booting for votes is vaguely academic when the high-playership core is mostly what's left at this point. Most of them will languish with occasional rare times in, ala BCB's more off games, at this stage. Which is how it should be.

For cast trimming...

CC abstain in general. CC is one of those games that I feel like the people feel strongly about should stay in and I don't feel strongly about anyone in the cast, so.

FFT keep.

FE7, boot Isadora, Louise, Dorcas, Nino, Legault. Abstain on the rest. These seem clear locks based on relative popularity/performance/in Nino's case the infamous splits on her performance along with the other two issues. If people want to boot other stuff I don't want to get in their way; Half of this at least is how popular the filler character is, and while CC has a quirky weird cast I find hard to read for this, FE I feel like I can make some comments on.

FE8, boot Garcia, Artur, Saleh, Caellach, Valter(Aware these two aren't on the list. But they have 0/2 records-granted Valter's are to Heavies, and he hasn't gotten in since then-and have the issue of being...less memorable than usual for FE bosses I think?). Abstain on the rest.

Suikoden 2, abstain. bla bla see CC whatever people want in Iiiii can't judge the popularity of these guys and a lot of 'em bore me. Keep Gijimu though. Didn't he both have a notable DL rune AND was a former champ?

Anything else: Keep, just in case some more stuff gets on the list. Basically I want to make sure I read it before I even throw an abstain it's way, as booting is something I consider a small trimming process mostly these days.
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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2011, 03:24:18 AM »
I fail to see how kicking out anyone will cause interest to go up, but...

Essentially, reducing the number of duellers nobody cares about (whether because they haven't played a given game or because the dueller is somebody they don't remember, never used, or just plain sucks as a dueller) leads to a high percentage of matches people care about voting on.  Perhaps negligibly so!  But that's the theory behind it.

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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2011, 03:59:46 AM »
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits: Abstain.

Brigandine: Abstain.

Legend of Legaia: Keep Songi, abstain on rest, can be argued to a keep on anyone but Gala who just doesn't translate interestingly.

Lufia and the Fortress of Doom: Keep.

Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen: Boot Aisha, Norn, Saradin, Yushis, Rauny. Can be argued on all five but I'm not worried about booting any more from this, so Keep the rest.

Phantasy Star: Abstain.

Tales of Destiny: Abstain.

Tales of Eternia: Meh, I like the cast but it doesn't have much in terms of playership and I don't care enough. Abstain on Reid/Farah/Keele/Meredy, will support Boot on Max for being later in the game relatively. And tangentially to Sage I don't know many in the DL that have even played this which is why I don't mind if it goes.

Vandal-Hearts: Abstain.


Chrono Cross
Boot: Funguy, Irenes, Janice, Mel, Neo-Fio, Pip, Sprigg, Turnip, Van. Hi mid-late game people that may or may not be optional but I don't really see myself able to support.
Abstain: Razzly, Pierre, Guile, Nikki
Keep: Rest

Final Fantasy Tactics:

Abstain: Celia, Zalbag, Balk, Olan, anyone else not specified
Keep: Rofel, Lede, Izlude

I Would Say Boot Except I'm Horribly Horribly Biased Against This Character Due To Interp Splits And All The Other Messes About This Character And So She Kinda Personifies My Main Issue With One-Fight Temps (She At Least Has Two Forms) And Thus I Don't Know If I Should Recuse Myself From Voting On Her: Alma


Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword

Keep: Canas, Erk, Hawkeye, Priscilla, Rath, Raven
Boot: Nino
Abstain: Rest
I Only Feel Like Keeping One Archer And Don't Terribly Care Which: Rebecca, Wil (Read as Abstain)


Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones

Keep: Colm, Cormag, Artur, Innes, L'Arachel, Neimi, Saleh
Abstain: Rest
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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2011, 06:43:34 AM »
I fail to see how kicking out anyone will cause interest to go up, but...

Essentially, reducing the number of duellers nobody cares about (whether because they haven't played a given game or because the dueller is somebody they don't remember, never used, or just plain sucks as a dueller) leads to a high percentage of matches people care about voting on.  Perhaps negligibly so!  But that's the theory behind it.

Shin vs. Gabocha would probably make most people go "wha?" to at least one of them and not care about the other. Apathy is bad for interest.
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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2011, 04:42:49 PM »

Shin vs. Gabocha would probably make most people go "wha?" to at least one of them and not care about the other. Apathy is bad for interest.

I firmly believe that there is no benefit to booting anyone because it will not generate any interest in the DL. If people are apathetic about the DL then it is something that can be solved by having new people in, not kicking old people out. At least, that's how I feel.

EDIT: Also, I thought the idea in having lots of different casts in was to motivate people to play different games. If we only have series in the DL that 100% of the people who vote could even vote on (as impossible as that would be to calculate in the first place) we'd barely have anything at all.
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Re: Season 63 Bootings
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2011, 06:35:22 PM »
It doesn't generate interest, but neither does having people in who people don't even remember. Saying '100% of people play this!' is a strawman since that is hardly what's being proposed. At a certain point, you realize you obviously haven't gotten people to play games like Lufia 1 and Ogre Battle, but say, Rashidi vs. Kefka prevents someone from voting on someone who they like! I think this is a good way to make people go "Oh, well, that's lame."
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