Author Topic: Best Scenes, SEMI FINALS - Open the gates of Nifelheim! More souls await!  (Read 1505 times)

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DRAMA:
Might vs Right (SH2) |||| vs. Arshtat debriefs you after Lordlake (Suikoden V) ||
Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5) |||| || vs. Mami and the Carronade (BoF4)

STYLE:
Edna meets Fear (Wild ARMs XF) |||| vs. "I wish you would embrace God." (Grim Grimoire) |||
Sex Talk with Dr. Kaufman  (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories) || vs. Gawn Missile PAWCNH (WA4) ||||

HUMOR:
Tranny Kyle (LSSSC) || vs. End Chapter 7 (Mana Khemia 2) ||||
Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!) ||| vs. Roxis CQ 4 (Mana Khemia) ||| (Tie Break goes to the game from a different series than the winner of the other match...cause I said so...)

"I GOT A SELECTION OF GOOD THINGS ON SALE, STRANGER!":
What is a Man?! (Castlevania: Symphony of the Night) || vs. Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears) ||||

DRAMA:
Virgil's Exit (Xenosaga 3) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrT6M4cXPJU&feature=related) vs Finding Elina (BoFIV) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWdxvrdW7QI&feature=related#t=1m18s)
Might vs Right (SH2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea5nAqym380&feature=related) vs Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oPI9HXWdVI)

STYLE:
Asellus Mystic Ending (SaGa Frontier) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPb64sArzj8#t=5m30s) vs World Destroyer Orsted (Live-a-Live) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A6uURkIeNk#t=8m40s)
 Edna meets Fear (Wild ARMs XF) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfTgboLV81o#t=2m15s) vs Gawn Missile PAWCNH (WA4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRGh9_HhFnI#t=4m45s)

HUMOR:
Flay Character Quest 5 (Mana Khemia) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_rp2DRJMLA) vs The MAN FESTIVAL (SH2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZsHIAoTgZM)
End Chapter 7 (Mana Khemia 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6lNrt2gJJU&feature=related#t=5m - until 6:55) vs Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouV0ZStoQZ0)

And because of the less noms for the division, one division must end early, and as a result....

Finale!:

"What is a Division?  A miserable little pile of WRONGNESS!!"
Leblanc's Back Rub (Final Fantasy X-2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoWWCtACy-w) vs Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No89V8ydHVY#t=3m55s)


SHORT FORM!!

DRAMA:
Virgil's Exit (Xenosaga 3) vs Finding Elina (BoFIV)
Might vs Right (SH2) vs Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5)

STYLE:
Asellus Mystic Ending (SaGa Frontier) vs World Destroyer Orsted (Live-a-Live)
Edna meets Fear (Wild ARMs XF) vs Gawn Missile PAWCNH (WA4)

HUMOR:
Flay Character Quest 5 (Mana Khemia) vs The MAN FESTIVAL (SH2)
End Chapter 7 (Mana Khemia 2) vs Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!)

And because of the less noms for the division, one division must end early, and as a result....

"What is a Division?  A miserable little pile of WRONGNESS!!"
Leblanc's Back Rub (Final Fantasy X-2) vs Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears)
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Re: Best Scenes, SEMI FINALS - Open the gates of Nifelheim! More souls await!
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 02:44:29 AM »
SHORT FORM!!

DRAMA:
Virgil's Exit (Xenosaga 3) vs Finding Elina (BoFIV)
Might vs Right (SH2) vs Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5)

STYLE:
]Edna meets Fear (Wild ARMs XF) vs Gawn Missile PAWCNH (WA4)- FUCK. OFF. GAWN.

HUMOR:
Flay Character Quest 5 (Mana Khemia) vs The MAN FESTIVAL (SH2)


"What is a Division?  A miserable little pile of WRONGNESS!!"
Leblanc's Back Rub (Final Fantasy X-2) vs Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears- ew. no.
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Re: Best Scenes, SEMI FINALS - Open the gates of Nifelheim! More souls await!
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2011, 02:58:51 AM »
SHORT FORM!!

DRAMA:
Virgil's Exit (Xenosaga 3) vs Finding Elina (BoFIV)
Might vs Right (SH2) vs Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5)

STYLE:
Asellus Mystic Ending (SaGa Frontier) vs World Destroyer Orsted (Live-a-Live)
Edna meets Fear (Wild ARMs XF) vs Gawn Missile PAWCNH (WA4)

HUMOR:
Flay Character Quest 5 (Mana Khemia) vs The MAN FESTIVAL (SH2)
End Chapter 7 (Mana Khemia 2) vs Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!)- Flay vs. Flay finals plz.

And because of the less noms for the division, one division must end early, and as a result....

"What is a Division?  A miserable little pile of WRONGNESS!!"
Leblanc's Back Rub (Final Fantasy X-2) vs Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears)- IMHO the wrongest of all things wrong.
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Re: Best Scenes, SEMI FINALS - Open the gates of Nifelheim! More souls await!
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2011, 03:01:18 AM »
DRAMA:
Virgil's Exit (Xenosaga 3) vs Finding Elina (BoFIV): Man this scene is gut-wrenching. Virgil's exit is excellent but suffers from us being a bit less attached to the hopes and dreams of the characters involved. It's a consequence partly of Elina being about the main PCs instead of a secondary villain, and of the fact that it was built up to nicely over the course of the entire game.
Might vs Right (SH2) vs Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5): Oh man, this is finals-worthy. Actually, the drama final four are just amazing in general. I think Virgil's exit is the worst of the four and I don't think I've voted against it yet. Or any of these actually. Good show DL. Anyway, I've never made any secret of the fact that I consider the Ferid/Arshtat scene -the- most effective dramatic/tragic scene I've ever seen in an RPG, so yeah, vote here is evident enough.

STYLE:
Asellus Mystic Ending (SaGa Frontier) vs World Destroyer Orsted (Live-a-Live): NEED MORE POWER PRINCESSES > what comes off as just kinda emo to me
Edna meets Fear (Wild ARMs XF) vs Gawn Missile PAWCNH (WA4): More substance to go along with it, as per usual.

HUMOR:
Flay Character Quest 5 (Mana Khemia) vs The MAN FESTIVAL (SH2): Flay vs. Flay finals?
End Chapter 7 (Mana Khemia 2) vs Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!): I'm for it.

And because of the less noms for the division, one division must end early, and as a result....

"What is a Division?  A miserable little pile of WRONGNESS!!"
Leblanc's Back Rub (Final Fantasy X-2) vs Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears): I'm not terribly happy with this finals given some of the truly awesome meme-worthy scenes that fell by the wayside (Xorn, liiiight, whatamifightingfor, etc.). That said I'm more amused by the writers winking at us with crucified Chu-Chu.

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Re: Best Scenes, SEMI FINALS - Open the gates of Nifelheim! More souls await!
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2011, 04:49:08 AM »
DRAMA:
Virgil's Exit (Xenosaga 3) vs Finding Elina (BoFIV)
Might vs Right (SH2) vs Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5)- So whoever wins this one is the champ.  Which I figured out earlier, so I rewatched both.
For raw emotional punch, you really can't beat the Arshtat scene.  The acting works well, it's tense and has several shifts in tone that really keep you invested.  A lot of the game is built around that one scene, the entire beginning building up Arshtat's growing detachment from reality and Ferid's sexiness, as well as the main focal point of the character drama being Lym and the heroes trying to help her.
Might vs Right is entirely Yuri at his nadir, and it's interesting in its own right, in part because it's just not the sort of scene you see done.  The hero pounding on a decrepit villain is fine for shock value, but that's not really what I mean here; what's different is that not only do we see that this is a villain where beating him up does absolutely no good, but that there's not even any satisfaction.  Ishimura has a finger in every tragedy in Yuri's life, his every action an unintentional taunt to a man who's buried everyone he ever loved.  Yuri's a man of action, who thinks with his fists.  And yet, reaching his breaking point and beating up the old man... gives him nothing.  He's not pounding away any frustration or delivering well deserved justice.  He's beating up an old man.  It's also, of course, the turning point in the character.  To this point he'd been marked by a combination of mourning and deepening despair, effectively, as noted by Gepetto way back in chapter 1, looking for a place to die.  Or, rather, a cause worth his own life, something he'd lost along with Alice.  Here's where he himself sees that he's just been lost, blundering about from place to place without knowing what to do.  He followed the road to the end and there was nothing there, if that makes any sense.

So what I'm getting at here is this; fittingly, the finals of this contest are a matter of weighing the value of the strength of a singular scene against the holistic value of the scene in context.  While neither of the finalists are lacking in either category, else they wouldn't be here, they're still easily separated by different strengths in those fields.  But as might be expected, in the end...
Might vs Right (SH2) vs Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5)

STYLE:
Asellus Mystic Ending (SaGa Frontier) vs World Destroyer Orsted (Live-a-Live)
Edna meets Fear (Wild ARMs XF) vs Gawn Missile PAWCNH (WA4)- ... hmmm.  Honestly there's no right way to decide between these, highly contrasting styles.  So I think silly is right today.

HUMOR:
Flay Character Quest 5 (Mana Khemia) vs The MAN FESTIVAL (SH2)
End Chapter 7 (Mana Khemia 2) vs Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!)- And then Ciato stabs me, possibly with flowers.


"What is a Division?  A miserable little pile of WRONGNESS!!"
Leblanc's Back Rub (Final Fantasy X-2) vs Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears)
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Re: Best Scenes, SEMI FINALS - Open the gates of Nifelheim! More souls await!
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2011, 05:21:11 AM »
SHORT FORM!!

DRAMA:
Virgil's Exit (Xenosaga 3) vs Finding Elina (BoFIV)
Might vs Right (SH2) vs Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5)

STYLE:
Asellus Mystic Ending (SaGa Frontier) vs World Destroyer Orsted (Live-a-Live)
Edna meets Fear (Wild ARMs XF) vs Gawn Missile PAWCNH (WA4)

HUMOR:
Flay Character Quest 5 (Mana Khemia) vs The MAN FESTIVAL (SH2) - Even if this doesn't win, I'm happy it's gotten as far as it has.
End Chapter 7 (Mana Khemia 2) vs Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!)

And because of the less noms for the division, one division must end early, and as a result....

"What is a Division?  A miserable little pile of WRONGNESS!!"
Leblanc's Back Rub (Final Fantasy X-2) vs Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears)

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Re: Best Scenes, SEMI FINALS - Open the gates of Nifelheim! More souls await!
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2011, 03:30:03 PM »
DRAMA:
Virgil's Exit (Xenosaga 3) vs Finding Elina (BoFIV)
Might vs Right (SH2) vs Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5)

STYLE:
Asellus Mystic Ending (SaGa Frontier) vs World Destroyer Orsted (Live-a-Live)
Edna meets Fear (Wild ARMs XF) vs Gawn Missile PAWCNH (WA4)

HUMOR:
Flay Character Quest 5 (Mana Khemia) vs The MAN FESTIVAL (SH2)
End Chapter 7 (Mana Khemia 2) vs Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!)

"What is a Division?  A miserable little pile of WRONGNESS!!"
Leblanc's Back Rub (Final Fantasy X-2) vs Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears)

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DRAMA:
Virgil's Exit (Xenosaga 3) vs Finding Elina (BoFIV)
Might vs Right (SH2) vs Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5)

STYLE:
Asellus Mystic Ending (SaGa Frontier) vs World Destroyer Orsted (Live-a-Live)
Edna meets Fear (Wild ARMs XF) vs Gawn Missile PAWCNH (WA4)

HUMOR:
Flay Character Quest 5 (Mana Khemia) vs The MAN FESTIVAL (SH2)
End Chapter 7 (Mana Khemia 2) vs Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!)

And because of the less noms for the division, one division must end early, and as a result....

"What is a Division?  A miserable little pile of WRONGNESS!!"
Leblanc's Back Rub (Final Fantasy X-2) vs Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears) - Though Xorn gets the moral victory since it's his division.

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DRAMA:
Virgil's Exit (Xenosaga 3) vs Finding Elina (BoFIV) - One of my favorites. Solidly memorable. Sets the tone of the rest of the entire game.
Might vs Right (SH2) vs Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5) - This is close. Cmdr's argument for SH2 almost swayed me, but S5 plays just a little more to my biases.

STYLE:
Asellus Mystic Ending (SaGa Frontier) vs World Destroyer Orsted (Live-a-Live) - Not really close at all... Man, LaL must have had a seriously weak division to get this far. (And honestly, SaGaF must have, too... there's so many better style scenes I can think of...)
Edna meets Fear (Wild ARMs XF) vs Gawn Missile PAWCNH (WA4) - Wild Arms vs. Wild Arms~

HUMOR:
Flay Character Quest 5 (Mana Khemia) vs The MAN FESTIVAL (SH2) - Close match. I really like the Flay, but I enjoy Anastasia the Yaoi-fan-girl just that little bit more. And Yuri's reaction to it is just well-timed.
End Chapter 7 (Mana Khemia 2) vs Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!)

"What is a Division?  A miserable little pile of WRONGNESS!!"
Leblanc's Back Rub (Final Fantasy X-2) vs Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears) - Enjoyed for all the wrong reasons, I think I finally understand this division!