Author Topic: New Nyarlathotep's Dungeon Topic, Updated 10/1/14 with new rules (Read 123925 times)

DjinnAndTonic · « **Reply #1425 on:** January 20, 2013, 12:44:21 AM »

Clearly, we have finally a found a team with a use for Cid4.

Dark Holy Elf · « **Reply #1426 on:** January 20, 2013, 12:46:50 AM »

Debilitator does tell you the weakness it causes (you just can't choose which it is, though I think it will always be one that doesn't yet exist).

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1427 on:** January 20, 2013, 12:51:03 AM »

Oh, okay. That's not much better considering the wealth of FF6 elemental weaknesses, though.

DjinnAndTonic · « **Reply #1428 on:** January 20, 2013, 01:42:55 AM »

Team idea:
Dorothy (3.5)
Rosa + Rydia (2.0)
Zemeckis + Hydra (2.0)
Ricardo (1.5)
[Nall (1.0)]

Slow people + Dorothy = Better people? Ricardo for MP restoring. I am considering adding Body Charge to someone and dropping Nall, but I'm not sure how that works with the paired characters.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1429 on:** January 20, 2013, 01:50:07 AM »

Body Charge doubles the cost of the paired unit but applies its benefits to both of them. Using it on Rosa+Rydia would be totes worth losing Nall and the team still wouldn't go over the pricing limit. Ricardo hitting Berserk could be worrisome, though.

(Also, does the Hydra count as a separate body? I don't -think- it does, but uh if it does you're one character over)

dude789 · « **Reply #1430 on:** January 20, 2013, 02:06:40 AM »

Quote from: Jo'ou Ranbu on January 20, 2013, 12:51:03 AM

Oh, okay. That's not much better considering the wealth of FF6 elemental weaknesses, though.

This is true, that's why I suggested Purim who can cover almost all of them with her elemental sabers. Mages with good elemental coverage like Cecilia could also hit most of them.

Pyro · « **Reply #1431 on:** January 20, 2013, 02:08:07 AM »

Hydra doesn't count as a separate body.

DjinnAndTonic · « **Reply #1432 on:** January 20, 2013, 02:24:09 AM »

Okay then, updating Team Slow People + Overclock:

Dorothy (3.5)
Rosa + Rydia (Body Charge 4.0)
Zemeckis + Hydra (2.0)
Ricardo (1.5)

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1433 on:** January 20, 2013, 02:46:59 AM »

First Wind is Strawman! Mind, Overclock is better for all practical purposes anyway and it's floor 2. And Dorothy is one hell of a healer with the quadra-acting deal. In fact, if that team makes it to lategame, it'll be quite the force to be reckoned with. Fast MT OHKO? Durable, non-slow healer with tons of status and resources? MP healing? Three revivers? SH3 buffs? Yeah. Early game, you'll have Dream Land to help shutting down some fights to boot. Rydia still sucks at durability, but at least she doesn't get OHKOed by the likes of Justin anymore.

Pyro · « **Reply #1434 on:** January 20, 2013, 04:06:29 AM »

I should point out that Overclock does not take effect round 1 (so Dorothy could npt speed up the first turn of Ricardo/Zem/Hydra)

DjinnAndTonic · « **Reply #1435 on:** January 20, 2013, 05:13:30 AM »

Quote from: Pyro on January 20, 2013, 04:06:29 AM

I should point out that Overclock does not take effect round 1 (so Dorothy could npt speed up the first turn of Ricardo/Zem/Hydra)

Well fuck, this team's screwed then...

Should I just replace Dorothy with Scarecrow then? (When does he get First Wind?)

Dhyerwolf · « **Reply #1436 on:** January 20, 2013, 05:28:15 AM »

That's the reason I scrapped by Dorothy/Body Charged Porom/Palom team.

Magic Fanatic · « **Reply #1437 on:** January 20, 2013, 05:34:07 AM »

Virginia + Elemental Advance could work (maybe). Ginny's fast enough to force a weakness of your choice on something before anyone else acts, and then you have your other party members able to take advantage of it. The main downside is that it IS resistable, and you can only do it with elements that Ginny would have on-hand with her other mediums.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1438 on:** January 20, 2013, 07:57:53 AM »

Quote from: DjinnAndTonic on January 20, 2013, 05:13:30 AM

Quote from: Pyro on January 20, 2013, 04:06:29 AM
I should point out that Overclock does not take effect round 1 (so Dorothy could npt speed up the first turn of Ricardo/Zem/Hydra)

Well fuck, this team's screwed then...

Should I just replace Dorothy with Scarecrow then? (When does he get First Wind?)

I wouldn't say you're screwed. Due to Body Charge on Rosa+Rydia, long-term you have fast crowd control and status along with a non-slow, durable healer with tons of resources who, even though comes into her own fully only by floor 4, at least has early revival and status healing, and Dorothy+Ricardo (whose healing is pretty danged powerful early, having floor 1 revival and MT healing that starts rather potent) will pick up the slack earlier on for healing. Zemeckis+Hydra cover physical offense and will handle problems in the early going as long as you don't mind the ST (and with Dream Land, it's likely you won't). It's a fairly complete package, and Dream Land (accurate MT status that's very good at shutting down a lot of PC fights) will definitely come in handy and is -floor 1-. To boot, your slowest PC is average speed. You'll be fine.

By the way, I meant it when Overclocked is strictly better unless you give TB initiative more respect than capped TB speed. First Wind also only activates on the next turn and is ST, and while it's floor 1, Overclock is floor 2. So um yeah.

Pyro · « **Reply #1439 on:** January 20, 2013, 08:31:16 AM »

Yeah, with 3 speedy folks, and an above average speed Ricardo You should be fine.

Dorothy gets hype from me on durability as I allow the defend whoring. Others may do the same. Also very late but her and Zemekis can buff phys offense to the stratosphere.

Nephrite · « **Reply #1440 on:** January 21, 2013, 12:00:32 AM »

Moving Hilda to 2.5.

DjinnAndTonic · « **Reply #1441 on:** January 24, 2013, 10:06:52 PM »

So... any thoughts on adding at least Pamela to the roster? No MK switching tricks or anything. Just to see how she works out.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1442 on:** January 24, 2013, 10:12:21 PM »

I'm not sure she's worth even over a 1.0 in the boiling of eggs and she's very uninteresting for a long time. Slow as fuck single-target status whoring that drains her HP off the egregious durability score and there's not much she can do to really take advantage of Immortal Body until like floor 5 or 6. Even then, she exists mostly as a physical wall and has resource issues if she goes for the parasitic party healing option. Although she could make a very weird Firefly user in a sense, but Firefly is one of the most overused sealstones as it stands...

DjinnAndTonic · « **Reply #1443 on:** January 24, 2013, 10:39:32 PM »

It's true enough that she's not a very good pick on her own, but she can do an odd variety of things that just might fill some good niches in a team, particularly if she's priced at only 1.0/1.5

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1444 on:** January 24, 2013, 10:40:38 PM »

That's true enough. And I guess 1.0 is a barren wasteland as it stands. You could find creative uses for her ST parasitic healing and Firefly+Immortal Body, which could be a pain in the ass if you pull it off, but speed is an issue.

Dhyerwolf · « **Reply #1445 on:** January 24, 2013, 10:44:28 PM »

Maybe throw some type of SP regen on her to theoretically simulate the effects of that part of switching so that she can at least use that MT draining a few times?

AndrewRogue · « **Reply #1446 on:** January 28, 2013, 06:39:52 AM »

Hrm. Now I have to brainstorm how to one-up 5 points =(

Tide · « **Reply #1447 on:** January 29, 2013, 11:35:54 PM »

use PCs that other people haven't used before and call it a team?

AndrewRogue · « **Reply #1448 on:** January 31, 2013, 03:48:03 PM »

Team Tactics (10 pts)

Ramza (3 pts)
Chemist (2 pts)
Ninja (2 pts)
Worker 8 (2 pts)
Beowulf (1 pt)

Edit: If Neph is willing (I think my teams make him sad), I'd happily take a synergy bonus here.

hinode · « **Reply #1449 on:** February 04, 2013, 03:06:13 AM »

The wiki page on sealstones says that synergy bonuses take the sealstone slot, so I would definately take whatever Neph will give you for that instead of a sealstone.

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