Post Restriction Mafia - Game Thread - Day 1

[Shale]

Tonfa posts! Huzzah! It would have been a great tragedy if, like the dodo, our leetspeaker had been gone from this world forever; every life, no matter how idiosyncratic or impractical it might seem to us utilitarian humans, is precious. But I'd be happier, on balance, if he weren't using the same argument that Alex made against Excal/Andrew back in the Touhou game, namely the call for the destruction of all suspected third parties over the hunting of scum.

Cid's post...not sure what to make of that detail. Keeping a vote on one person this long could be determined scumhunting or scum trickery, making the vote history less useful...huh.

Question for Corwin: Yesterday, you were suspicious of my tactics against Soppy, but judged LD scummier. Today, we found out that the person I was hunting so determinedly was indeed an innocent townie, but if anything you've eased off me. Why?

[OblivionKnight]

Since I am such an awesome and helpful, perfect, sexy townie...

Votecount!

Smodge (3): EvilTom, AndrewRogue, Tonfa, El Cideon
Shale (1): VSM
LadyDoor (1): Corwin, El Cideon
Tonfa (0): OblivionKnight
AndrewRogue (0): OblivionKnight, El Cideon
OblivionKnight (0): Yakumo, El Cideon
Corwin (1): Yakumo
Excal (3): Shale, Smodge, El-Cid

~9 hours remain, 7 to lynch.

Though I am assuredly a townie and not a vile scum, check again to make sure there are no errors in this.  I checked it twice, but I could have made a mistake (El-Cid's posts might have made my eyes bleed). 

At this stage, like Shale said, Excal and Tom are MIA.  Both worry me for different reasons: Tom...I keep forgetting he's playing, and I keep getting him confused with smodge (who I do know is playing - despite what I think about the puppy sales, smodge is contributing in some way, even if small).  I...yeah, what has he done this game?  Excal...his posts were odd and...odd.  I don't know what to make of them, and that worries me.  There's a good run on Excal at the moment, but I really, really don't want to nuke him until I hear him answer what I asked him.  If he has some insight, I want to make use of it. 

Tom...where the hell are you, man?  If you were a lovable, huggable townie like myself, you'd make your presence known!  There are no votes on you, which is a bit odder - falling into the background is bad!  Damn.

To make a vote count, it has to be used - as a good townie, I know this.  So, of the tied vote-getters, the one I'd feel best about lynching...isn't either smodge or Excal.  I was hoping smodge would tell us more about the puppies if he could, but that seems about it.  Excal...I really don't want to nuke him/her unless there are no other options - he could be some type of insane cop, required to spout gibberish or something crazy after doing an investigation.  But that's probably me just trying to make sense of the mood swings, so...eh.  Right now, I don't feel confident in either of them, and would rather go after Tom personally, but...one vote right now won't do much. 

All other lovable townies like myself - opinions?

[Yakumo]

Welcome back to another exciting episode of Mafia!  I'm your host, Yakumo Fujii!  We near the end of the second day, and the audience is on the edge of their seats as the town is torn between targets!  If this day is to end at all well, we had better get our acts together and quickly!  Now, once again bringing out my Quote-O-Matic brand forum post copying device:

http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=572.msg12098#msg12098

I'll believe it when I see it for the first point.

On the second…. 'horribly'; 'awfully'. How about a case that isn't blowing things out of proportion? I'm saying that there is someone who is posting a lot, several someones who aren't posting much, and most of that latter group is the absolute majority on the first person's train. Do enlighten us all how this is a horribly flawed argument, if you will.

I am judging them on their own merits, but considering how a claimed restriction affects one's contribution to the game is also a part of this. Take LD and Tonfa. Now show me how they've helped us so far. To quote LD, I'll wait.

I'm thinking, two stars with an option for a third if you can actually give me the examples I'm asking for.

Are you seriously suggesting here that you think that just because Smodge has posted a lot of text, he's automatically a better townie than the people voting for him!?  Look again at what Smodge has posted; he's just as low on actually useful content as the people you're targeting!  The difference is that he's posting a lot about his puppy sales, himself, and his metagamey arguements, and his post restriction allows him to talk more freely!  I would argue that Andrew at the least has contributed far more useful information to the group than Smodge has, just in far fewer lines!  Your argument is horribly flawed because of the way you presented it: if you had merely attributed your misgivings on those contestants to their content levels in the game thus far, that would be one thing.  But you brought in the fact that their post restrictions keep them from being as useful to town as some other people could be, playing a metagame arguement to augment the realistic one, and from the way your post reads to me, you put more weight on the metagame version!  Also, bringing LadyDoor into the arguement here is baffling to me!  She's not voting for Smodge, and therefore has nothing at all to do with the discussion about the Smodge voters' scumminess or lack thereof!  Sure, I'll agree with you that LadyDoor and Tonfa both have been lacking in their posting.  However, Andrew and El Cid have been putting things out there pretty well considering the restrictions they have!  Not to mention that you say that you actually feel good about Tom, who hadn't even shown up in over a day at the time you made this post!  How does this count as putting out solid content?  Your logic makes no sense to me whatsoever! 

All that said, however, with our wonderful sponsor Carthrat's deadline fast approaching, we need to come to some sort of consensus quickly!  I don't want to remove my vote from our critic, as the more he speaks the more twisted his logic appears to me, but we need to decide on someone.  I need to get offline and get heading home soon, so I'll save my switching until I get back for now, as I don't have time to review the arguments on the people leading the voting right now!

We'll return with more exciting Mafia action after these messages!

[AndrewRogue]

-Excal and Tom really need to post.

-Tonfa is in the process of posting something larger hopefully.

-Corwin's argument seems kinda ham-handed.

-Both in the way it defends Smodge (who has little relevant content) and attacks some of us.

-Not sure how I feel on it.

-I consider the most viable candidates to be Excal/Tonfa/Smodge/Tom at this point.

-Corwin registers but not strong enough to actually consider votable.

-Let us quickly come to a consensus?

[Tonfa]

it isnt quite the same argmetn lol shale

i just dont think he wins with town 

he dosent appear to have any other miotivatn puppy only 

excal first post of day remain unexpliend

i would like to hear more him about this 

id like to hear more from tom 

he has mostly been going after lurk 

but id like to hear opinons that dont contridact each other from him if at all possibel under his restirhsun   

cids susphisun early on about ok claimign town at every turn is weird 

since it cleraly part of his restrishun 

looks like cid scatrshot agruemtn at almost every1 

agree with peopel on corwin mostly 

smodge my main suspishun now tho 

[Tonfa]

um so 

in betewn 2 mod post yestrdy there was 11 hour 

time remain lower by 9 hour though   

wtf man 

[Carthrat]

Votecount! Apologies for confusion over time

Smodge (3): EvilTom, AndrewRogue, Tonfa, El Cideon
Shale (1): VSM, El Cideon
LadyDoor (1): Corwin, El Cideon
Tonfa (0): OblivionKnight, El Cideon
AndrewRogue (0): OblivionKnight, El Cideon
OblivionKnight (0): Yakumo, El Cideon
Corwin (1): Yakumo
Excal (3): Shale, Smodge13, El Cideon
VSM (0): El Cideon


With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. There are 10 hours and 10 minutes remaining, precisely, and that's final for today.

[Sierra]

cids susphisun early on about ok claimign town at every turn is weird 

since it cleraly part of his restrishun 

...

-Perfect opportunity for scum to play a WIFOM game and get their own power-ups.

I agree with

The first point

-Well.

-Maybe to make him look like a townie?

All other lovable townies like myself - opinions?

[EvilTom]

Hey all, sorry guys. I had a bit of a 'guys night' weekend, with smash bros brawl, halo 3, anime etc. I haven't really found any time to catch up and read yet.
You've been busy gaming and sleeping. Fool!
Yes I know. I have to drive someone to the train station soon. I'll do some input after that.


Oh, and why's it been 36 hours? I seem to be between timezones. So it goes like 8 hours/stuff/8hours. When you guys are posting, I'm sleeping >.>
I disagree!
You're wrong.

I'll post something decent when I get back in about an hour.
So you say!

[Shale]

And now Tom's back with us! Wow, amazing what deadline will do.

I realize you're in Aussieland, but you could at least post reactions to what's happened overnight, even if you can't get into an active conversation with us U.S. folk. Checking out entirely looks baaaaaaad.

Cid: Not buying into any metagaming based on the nature of a post restriction, thanks. Although I would like to hear the details of OK's - it's pretty obvious that it involves repeated proclamations of his townieness, but specifics would be better than mandatory nationwide recycling, and I think we all know how great that would be (hint: very).

[Sierra]

At this stage, like Shale said, Excal and Tom are MIA.  Both worry me for different reasons: Tom...I keep forgetting he's playing, and I keep getting him confused with smodge (who I do know is playing - despite what I think about the puppy sales, smodge is contributing in some way, even if small).  I...yeah, what has he done this game?  Excal...his posts were odd and...odd.  I don't know what to make of them, and that worries me.  There's a good run on Excal at the moment, but I really, really don't want to nuke him until I hear him answer what I asked him.  If he has some insight, I want to make use of it. 

...

I agree with

The first point

...

Sorry, having wireless problems, trying to post.
It's not the wireless, it's your wireless card, it sucks!
It's the wireless too >.>

...uh...

-I'm not quite sure how I feel about voting on him at this point though.

...

I agree with

The second point

##Unvote: Excal

Anyway, on to other business.

We're getting on in the day, and there's still someone else who is notable by his absence.

-Lynch needs to happen.

-Lynch needs to happen.

-Lynch needs to happen.

I find the following person or people suspicious:

##Vote: Smodge

Essentially my vote for Excal is for a few simple reasons
1. My "at least 1 scum would buy a puppy theory".
2. He didn't comment too mcuh day 1 or day 2, the Sopko lynch was taken part in but it was fairly early on so it that actually doesn't make him look as bad.
3. Today however is why he gets my vote, he complains how the puppy did nothing at all and that we're going off track, but then doesn't even oblige to point us in any direction whatsoever, (well how i interpreted his post anyway).

...

I disagree with

The first point

-That makes little sense.

-I'm disinclined to believe it.

scumiest of any1 in game now 

...

...

...

And now Tom's back with us! Wow, amazing what deadline will do.

I realize you're in Aussieland, but you could at least post reactions to what's happened overnight, even if you can't get into an active conversation with us U.S. folk. Checking out entirely looks baaaaaaad.

-I have to agree.

Cid: Not buying into any metagaming based on the nature of a post restriction, thanks. Although I would like to hear the details of OK's - it's pretty obvious that it involves repeated proclamations of his townieness, but specifics would be better than mandatory nationwide recycling, and I think we all know how great that would be (hint: very).

I agree with

The second point

Let's take a short break.  More to come after these words!

[AndrewRogue]

-Ugh.

-Not liking the idea of lynching based on one day where a person is not around.

-I realize life does happen.

-Tom's response is fairly dissatisfactory though.

-I do have to second Cid to some degree with his apparent concern regarding OK.

-Metagame arguments are tough to deal with.

-OK's is one of those that makes you stop and wonder though.

-It inherently contributes to WIFOM.

-I'm still waiting on Excal.

[Shale]

Okay, deadline looms. Here're my priorities.

1. Figure out what's happening to America's honeybees. It's a mystery, and a potentially devastating one. Cut out the bottom of the food chain like that and who knows where the effects will end?
2. Lynch All Lurkers, by which I mean Excal. If our esteemed mod isn't going to enforce a participation rule, then we do it ourselves - Excal hasn't made a meaningful contribution since Day 1, and he has been around, both in chat and on the boards, since that time. He's even read the topic. He just hasn't felt like saying anything. Anybody comfortable with that? I'm not. Tom and Tonfa tie for second place here if Excal shows up and manages to get some actual contributions on the table by the end of the day, but that seems vanishingly unlikely.
3. Corwin. His logic was odd on Day 1 and has been downright bad today, complete with contradictory choices of targets and defendees (you got a better noun for that?) and the aforementioned bad metagaming. If Tom, Excal and Tonfa hadn't done their vanishing acts this is where my focus would almost certainly be.
4. Smodge. Could be scum, could be third-party, could be town taking his restriction too seriously, although Laggy's ##Buy count makes me kind of doubt that. Still haven't seen anything that makes me really think he's anti-town.
5. Other people, none of whom I could lynch with any degree of confidence. There are folks I'd like to see more from (OK on his restriction, VSM on his malleable reasons for voting for me), but nobody else I'd hang at the moment.

[Excal]

Dear me, it appears that having priorities aside from listening to all of your inane demands is evidence that one has dared to shove Timmy into his well?  Regardless, if I must speak to silence your inane babbling, then let me do so.

First off, it seems there has been a great dealof confusion due to your collective inability to read a single post.  Let me clarify in terms you should be more capable of understanding.  Namely, all I have said today is that your idea that holding a person to a single restriction will not work, as these restrictions change over time.  That, is all there is to it.

Now, you wish more meaningful content?  Then hold a moment as it shall come shortly.  However, I will leave you with this inorder to ensure than none of you plebians attempt something you would most certainly regret while I prepare to bless you all with my superior insight.

OoooooHOHOHOHOHOHO!

[EvilTom]

Ok, back. Sorry for the disappearance.
On the other hand, it did give me a chance to see what everyone else thinks.

I mainly agree with OK's focus on Smodge. My original reasons for voting for Smodge were his ultra-dodgy logic, fallacies, and general bad vibe. OK's notes about his 3rd party possibilities were something I had not considered, but 3rd party is still scum.
On the other hand, wins with town?
I don't think we should believe him, he's admitted to withholding information from town already. \

Also, there's been a general concern about the way Smodge has mostly posted about puppies.
With great big font!
It seems like he's put a lot of focus into it...
Alex was town and he had something similar!
But that's no guarantee. Maybe scum also have similar powers to balance.

Excal.. has been away longer than me. I don't feel comfortable about this.
On the other hand, I know best how hard it can be, with real life and time zones.
But still... argh.
I still think Smodge is more likely to be scum.

http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=572.msg11813#msg11813
This section is where I listed my initial problems, based on: http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=572.msg11811#msg11811
So, it all comes back to that alignment question doesn't it?
Well, I'm afraid that this whole puppy crap has distracted us from the real question behind it all. Which is the way he's acting.
So you're saying that these posts show scummy behaviour?
Well, as I said earlier.
On the other hand, it's backed up by: http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=572.msg11892#msg11892 where he seems to just dodge around the answer for as long as possible, then promising 'more later'.

-I dislike the way you keep dodging this matter of discussion.

-Either answer plainly or make it clear you cannot.

-Here is some encouragement.

##Vote: Smodge

This sort of thing is exactly what I was thinking.
But, then there's more you know!:

In the post where he finally tells us ( http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=572.msg11951#msg11951 ), I get the feeling that something isn't as it seems.
Like what?
Well, it doesn't sound right for the setup.
That's a bit metagamey, he could be telling the truth?
Having someone win ahead of town, means to me that they are not town. I can't see it any other way.


Now, question to Shale (and others):

Well that makes more sense on both fronts. Can't say I'm all that glad that Smodge was hiding the apparent reason for his pet-shop business, especially since even if he's telling the truth about being third-party we have only his word that he wins with the town - but it beats being totally in the dark.

You seem to disagree with my view here. Do other people think that someone who is third party is also town? I'd have thought that 3rd party = scum...
He might not be 3rd party at all, he might be mafia.
Does it matter, mafia or scum?
...not really.


...this is getting too long and unwieldy. I'll start a new post.
Hah, you could make an uber-post!
>.>

[Lady Door]

I dislike the critics’s logic and his method of arguing it. I dislike several people’s absences. I dislike the poet and salesman’s possibly-3rd-party statuses. I STILL dislike the salesman’s contributions, especially lately – especially with his own admission that helping town is secondary to his sales, despite his win condition. I’m impressed with the quoter’s increasing ability to communicate –

Mimosa trees have a weird defense mechanism. They wilt on contact. If they do it too often, they die. How is that helpful?

I’m wary about following his more recent declaration, though, the one the defender of the Earth picks up on shortly afterward. I disagree with the critic sticking with one target when he agrees there are cases on others – others who could conceivably reach lynch consensus by deadline, rather than the one who he has to swing 6 other voters to with less than a day left – but I don’t necessarily think keeping your vote on one person is in itself so scummy if you actually continuously believe they’re the scummiest. It’s when you make the lynch difficult deliberately and repeatedly that it causes problems.

My priorities: the two-faced one whose disappearing act is more lurking than absence; the two-voiced one whose disappearing act has an excuse, but is still dissatisfactory; the critic whose logic/angle of argument attempts to redirect without addressing the issues it’s redirecting from; the salesman’s iffy priorities; the poet’s almost tangential defenses.

EDIT: And my top two just posted. Convenient! Will read/respond.

[EvilTom]

Ok, Ninja'd by Excal's return. That's good. Now discussion can return from 'where are these people' back to those in question.
Such as who?

There's been heat between LD and Corwin. Some of it just seems to be snarkyness, especially about the wordcount thing.
That doesn't show scum, it's not really proof.
Well, they both seem to make decent points against each other, it's just the heat that stands out.

Like LD, I am also concerned about possible third party status.
How can you be sure it's not a general thing?
Well, first of all, I know I didn't receive anything like that. I don't have special loony tunes or buy sell powers. And I know that I'm town. Therefore, it's not hard to jump to the conclusion that people with bizarre objectives might not be town.
You could be the odd one out!
But LD has the same conlusion.

This is really starting to bug me:

Having a winning condition other than "you win when town does" is the definition of a third party - not necessarily an anti-town third party, but something to keep an eye on.

How is someone that is not with town, not against town? Shale, I agree with you on the things you said about Corwin, but when it comes to third parties like Smodge who win ahead of town... I have to disagree.
His points about Corwin are good though, especially regarding the previous argument.
But, that doesn't validate his view for Smodge.

scum hunting is secondary to sales

This just makes me feel... argh.
It reeks of third party?
No not just that, it reeks of non-town!

Are you seriously suggesting here that you think that just because Smodge has posted a lot of text, he's automatically a better townie than the people voting for him!?  Look again at what Smodge has posted; he's just as low on actually useful content as the people you're targeting!  The difference is that he's posting a lot about his puppy sales, himself, and his metagamey arguements, and his post restriction allows him to talk more freely!

I highly agree with Yakumo's stance here. It's yet another point against Smodge in my books.
But I don't agree with Yaku's negative stance on myself. I have put out content, and now I've returned. And I'm putting out more content! I hope this helps.

Ok, so summary time.
Or, a conclusion!
Shh, i'm talking. Basically, I've been against Smodge right from the beginning of day #2.
You said salesmen were scummy on day 1!
Yes, but now I mean it. He's said and done a lot of things that just don't register as town. My vote has been on him for ages, and that's where it's going to stay.
(Unless it means a no-lynch, which is worse).
As for the voting tally, 3 on Excal, 3 on Smodge. People are saying Excal looks scummy..
I'm not sure if I agree with that though. The mod did say there would be scripted events etc.
He did say that restrictions can change.
There'd be no reason for him to make that up as scum, it would only make him look bad.
I'm inclined to believe him for now, but, at 3 to 3, we need to hang someone. My vote is on Smodge, and I hope others will agree with what I've said.
That's if they can understand our retarded double-speak.
Well it's not my fault I have 2 heads.
It's definately not mine!
Gah shutup.
No you.

[Excal]

Dear me, young Miss.  You would think to cast blame on me, of all people?  Or rather, think my absence as less appropriate than that of our other missing member?  After all, one must devote time to work to enjoy life's finer things, and when those finer things come, one must spend more time to enjoy them.  Against such things, you lot are scarecely deserving even of this time I grace you with.

Indeed, even the faintest glimmer of intellect you deign to show is mired deep in your failed judgement, same with all those others who see silence as the ultimate crime.  Let us look at those here who have their names called, but are not blessed with a worthwhile hobby.  Or, more likely should be having their names called.

Let us look at our dear schoolmarm.  Such a lovely person she is to be looking over our youth, what with her ever so monotenous focus and inability to prioritise appropriatly.  I understand ever so well why one might wish to shove those useless philosophers down a well, but to focus on such to the exclusion of all else?  Inexcusable.  Combine that with an odd accentuation on dealing with those who cannot speak so well?  You seem most ill-suited for your chosen profession, and makes me ever so glad that I had no need to ever enter the public system.

However, my ire must reside mostly on that pretensious peddler of puppies.  The only thing you seem to love more than your puppies is your hide, and your words outside of those miniscule beasts have come infrequently and bidden only by those who have gotten uncivil in regards to your relentless and slavish devotion to the lowly dollar.  When you do deign to make an argument, the best you can do is a nebulous claim that one of those clandestine sorts must have bought your puppies, and it is the one who dared speak against them that is the one in question?  Most importantly, you have as much as stated that if we purchase enough puppies, you care not what happens to us or that hapless whelp, Timmy, but will skip town and declare yourself victor?  Unforgivable!

##Vote: Smodge

May you start tossing your precious puppies down that well now, in the hopes that their twisted carcasses will be enough to ensure that your own form will not be shattered when you fall.  LEt your accursed pitches and pointless words be left behind us in our important tasks and know that the only time you will be missed is when we grow tired of comtenplation and basking in the silence we will have wrought for ourselves!  Indeed, I can already see and relish this happy day!

Mwahaha...  MWAHAHA  AhhhhhHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Kilgamayan]

hay guyz wuts goin on in dis game

Votecount!

Smodge (5): EvilTom, AndrewRogue, Tonfa, El Cideon, El Cideon, Excal
Shale (1): VSM, El Cideon
LadyDoor (1): Corwin, El Cideon
Tonfa (0): OblivionKnight, El Cideon
AndrewRogue (0): OblivionKnight, El Cideon
OblivionKnight (0): Yakumo, El Cideon
Corwin (1): Yakumo
Excal (2): Shale, Smodge13, El Cideon
VSM (0): El Cideon


With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. There are about 5.5 hours remaining.

[Shale]

Excal, welcome back to the land of the speaking! It's a pity I can't make your reception more pleasant.

Even if your "priorities" were as philosophically overriding as halting industrial logging in the rainforests, or building up the Barrier Reef (both far more important than petty investigation!), that doesn't fly when those activities demonstrably weren't enough to keep you from spending time a ringside spectator to the day's events. Tell me, what was so important you didn't have time to to post one single vote, and yet so insignificant you could stand around and gawk at the rest of us instead of attending to it?

Moreover, while your statements on Corwin and Smodge are welcome - though hardly anything we haven't heard from other mouths already - I'm still waiting with bated breath for an explanation of your first post of the day.

Tom: Third parties exist that can win with town. The most common is the survivor, who, like normal townies, wins when the scum are all dead, but with the added wrinkle that he or she must be alive when the last scum hangs.

[EvilTom]

Shale: Ah ok, I didn't realise you could have town-third party *mind boggles*
On the other hand, I'm still for a Smodge-lynch, based on all the other reasons.

[Excal]

Do not be fooled, Third Party can win with us, but they can also win with those who hunt us.  And the argument that they are anything other than that is poisonous to us all.  Try not to let your gullibility harm us all, if you please.

As for you Shale.  I have been around, yes.  That said, there is a vast difference between looking at something to see if something occurs to one to say, and actually having something of worth to say.  I am no peddler, be it bridges, puppies, or anything else.  Though if you wish to mistake my derision of the puppy peddler for fact, then please do ##Buy: Bridge, if you must make a fool of yourself, then please do so for something that doesn't encourage those who have not our interests at heart.  Unless you wish to say that you have some all-natural source of energy that allows you to never be so weary that you cannot think?  That would be most interesting and miraculous, yes?

Regardless, while pedantic arguments are amusing, I've little desire to listen to them while we've real prey to concern ourselves with.  Of course, if you wish to chase me, well...  I can understand why you might find me so desirous.

Mweeheehee!

[Shale]

Once, twice, and now three times I've asked you to explain that batch of nonsense you called a post, and nothing. Barring a situation where I either change my mind or allow us to hit deadline with no majority, my vote stays where it is.

[Shale]

Well, fuck. No use in keeping to my restriction now, thanks to a simple error in clicking "Post" instead of "Preview." Had I lived, I would have kept my vote in place as I mean to do for the mighty redwoods of California, but it's a bit late now. It's been fun, and good luck to town.

[Carthrat]

"I'm telling you, we need to get Timmy out the well already!" complained Shale. "Because if we don't, he'll pollute the water when it rains- see, a storm is gathering now, and-

CRACK!

It seems that Shale, ever the staunch environmentalist, had finally been done in by the forces that he loved most.

Shale, Captain Planet, Vanilla Townie, was modkilled for breaking his post restriction!

Votecount!

Smodge (5): EvilTom, AndrewRogue, Tonfa, El Cideon, El Cideon, Excal
Shale (DEAD): El Cideon, VSM
LadyDoor (1): Corwin, El Cideon
Tonfa (0): OblivionKnight, El Cideon
AndrewRogue (0): OblivionKnight, El Cideon
OblivionKnight (0): Yakumo, El Cideon
Corwin (1): Yakumo
Excal (1): Smodge13, El Cideon, Shale
VSM (0): El Cideon

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. There are about 5 hours remaining. PLEASE STOP BREAKING YOUR POST RESTRICTIONS.
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