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Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« on: September 04, 2011, 07:42:22 PM »
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Rei (Breath of Fire III) vs Lloyd (Legend of Dragoon)
Elliot (Legaia 2: Duel Saga) vs Wren (Phantasy Star IV)

Middle

Florina (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword) vs Lightning (Final Fantasy XIII)
Mathias (Suikoden V) vs Albel Nox (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time)

Light

Mao (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Akaghi (Suikoden IV)
Piccolo (Suikoden III) vs Melody Vilente (Wild ARMs 3)

Demon King Piccolo (Suikoden III) vs Seibzehn (Xenogears)
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2011, 08:05:31 PM »
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Rei (Breath of Fire III) vs Lloyd (Legend of Dragoon)- Rei's faster and probably hits harder, but that durability gap is pretty big.
Elliot (Legaia 2: Duel Saga) vs Wren (Phantasy Star IV)- Wren's last spoiler bit it hard to Elliot last week.

Middle

Florina (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword) vs Lightning (Final Fantasy XIII)
Mathias (Suikoden V) vs Albel Nox (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time)- Too much spoilage here.

Light

Mao (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Akaghi (Suikoden IV)
Piccolo (Suikoden III) vs Melody Vilente (Wild ARMs 3)- Barrier should buy her enough time.

Demon King Piccolo (Suikoden III) vs Seibzehn (Xenogears)
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2011, 08:20:14 PM »
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Lady (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Jenna Angel (Digital Devil Saga)- Jenna...least favorite Godlike dueller perhaps.
Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Isolde (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis)

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Rei (Breath of Fire III) vs Lloyd (Legend of Dragoon)
Elliot (Legaia 2: Duel Saga) vs Wren (Phantasy Star IV)

Middle

Florina (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword) vs Lightning (Final Fantasy XIII)- Uh?
Mathias (Suikoden V) vs Albel Nox (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time)

Light

Mao (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Akaghi (Suikoden IV)
Piccolo (Suikoden III) vs Melody Vilente (Wild ARMs 3)

Demon King Piccolo (Suikoden III) vs Seibzehn (Xenogears)
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2011, 08:31:32 PM »
Rei (Breath of Fire III) vs Lloyd (Legend of Dragoon) - sure
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2011, 09:07:32 PM »
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Lady (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Jenna Angel (Digital Devil Saga)
Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Isolde (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis)

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Rei (Breath of Fire III) vs Lloyd (Legend of Dragoon)
Elliot (Legaia 2: Duel Saga) vs Wren (Phantasy Star IV)

Middle

Florina (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword) vs Lightning (Final Fantasy XIII)
Mathias (Suikoden V) vs Albel Nox (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time)

Light

Mao (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Akaghi (Suikoden IV)
Piccolo (Suikoden III) vs Melody Vilente (Wild ARMs 3)
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2011, 11:10:22 PM »
Quote from: Talaysen on September 04, 2011, 09:07:32 PM
Rei (Breath of Fire III) vs Lloyd (Legend of Dragoon)

I thought that you would take 4 Rei's vs an unscaled Lloyd? Because Lloyd has MT counters, and Weretiger will eventually start attacking other PCs too.
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2011, 12:12:40 AM »
When's Weretiger start attacking other PCs?
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2011, 04:56:34 AM »
Middle

Florina (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword) vs Lightning (Final Fantasy XIII)
Uhhhhhh.  While Lightning's Ruin is better for my interp's levels than the stat topic indicates, I still think this is too big a cut in damage, and Florina kills first?  Alternatively medic spam gets Lightning killed on a crit.  I would be thrilled to be given an excuse to vote against Florina, though.
Mathias (Suikoden V) vs Albel Nox (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time)
Mathias only has one shot of his parasitic healing IIRC the stat topic.

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Piccolo (Suikoden III) vs Melody Vilente (Wild ARMs 3)
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2011, 05:05:20 AM »
Why exactly would Light use Ruin?  Even discounting her own disparate stats, Florina is considerably better at Mdef than Def.  Unless you're arguing that FE evade magically fails against FFXIII spell in which case no.
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2011, 07:03:53 AM »
To avoid counters.
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2011, 09:57:27 AM »
Quote from: Talaysen on September 05, 2011, 12:12:40 AM
When's Weretiger start attacking other PCs?

Not sure how many turns. I think the chances may increase as time goes on, but I'm going off of hearsay I read years ago. For obvious reasons, no one really paid attention DLwise enough to document it. If you see Lloy as decently durable, may kick a time or two though (And already, Lloyd gets his initial counter and his death counter for sure, and those already 40%+ MT. Throw in evasion+Weretiger's needing a turn to transform, and Lloyd shouldn't have too many issues. Lloyd really tends to like the multiple PC view against someone like Rei.
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2011, 07:07:14 PM »
Snowfire: Lightning can also switch to the magic weapon for about a 15-20% increase in damage.

Quote from: Dhyerwolf on September 05, 2011, 09:57:27 AM
Not sure how many turns. I think the chances may increase as time goes on, but I'm going off of hearsay I read years ago. For obvious reasons, no one really paid attention DLwise enough to document it. If you see Lloy as decently durable, may kick a time or two though (And already, Lloyd gets his initial counter and his death counter for sure, and those already 40%+ MT. Throw in evasion+Weretiger's needing a turn to transform, and Lloyd shouldn't have too many issues. Lloyd really tends to like the multiple PC view against someone like Rei.

That's probably enough to give Lloyd the win.

(Also I seriously don't remember Weretiger attacking other PCs but it's been awhile since I played BoF3.)
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2011, 09:52:35 PM »
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Lady (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Jenna Angel (Digital Devil Saga): Oh well.
Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Isolde (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis): Guessing Ryu can do enough damage in a single splash to avoid Bunker Pillar spam. He may also be fast enough to escape a lock there?

Heavy

Rei (Breath of Fire III) vs Lloyd (Legend of Dragoon): Seems like a very straightforward win.
Elliot (Legaia 2: Duel Saga) vs Wren (Phantasy Star IV): You're talking about Justin, Super? Chie winning this feels like a stretch.

Middle

Florina (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword) vs Lightning (Final Fantasy XIII): Pretty straightforward. Snowfire, why would levels make a difference to the relative power of Ruin/physicals? FF13 damage increases linearly with stats and all that, physicals are just naturally more damaging (1.2x mult instead of 1x) which is why Lightning only ever uses magic in-game against physically resistant enemies despite fairly similar stats.
Mathias (Suikoden V) vs Albel Nox (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time): Bah, pretty bad rob last week; I guess people don't really check the thread for later developments. That said, Albel wins this week. Florina for champ~

Light

Mao (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Akaghi (Suikoden IV): Speed and evade.
Piccolo (Suikoden III) vs Melody Vilente (Wild ARMs 3): He'd lose if he didn't block poison, but he does.
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2011, 01:28:08 AM »
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Lady (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Jenna Angel (Digital Devil Saga): Jenna is such a whore.
Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Isolde (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis): Splattering.

Heavy

Rei (Breath of Fire III) vs Lloyd (Legend of Dragoon): Good enough damage.
Elliot (Legaia 2: Duel Saga) vs Wren (Phantasy Star IV): Wren is a tough son of a gun. Healing and tanking win the day. Status immunity is icing since that was Elliot's backup.

Middle

Florina (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword) vs Lightning (Final Fantasy XIII): I guess counters win the day.
Mathias (Suikoden V) vs Albel Nox (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time): Albel is very good at what he does. Honestly I think I'm going to start considering SO3 MP as a separate HP stat that non-SO3 characters have the appropriate scaling equivalent of HP in.. Likely translates better.

Light

Mao (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Akaghi (Suikoden IV): Isn't Akaghi a pretty good Light?
Piccolo (Suikoden III) vs Melody Vilente (Wild ARMs 3): Kind of drawing a blank here, but strong attacks work better than chipping against Melody. So sure.

Demon King Piccolo (Suikoden III) vs Seibzehn (Xenogears): I'll bet Piccolo's evade is so bad that Seib's normally bad accuracy is just fine.
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2011, 04:12:00 AM »
Quote from: Dark Holy Elf on September 05, 2011, 09:52:35 PM
Florina (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword) vs Lightning (Final Fantasy XIII): Pretty straightforward. Snowfire, why would levels make a difference to the relative power of Ruin/physicals? FF13 damage increases linearly with stats and all that, physicals are just naturally more damaging (1.2x mult instead of 1x) which is why Lightning only ever uses magic in-game against physically resistant enemies despite fairly similar stats.

Level of weaponry perhaps? Maxed L3's hurt Lightning especially I believe.
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2011, 04:58:39 AM »
Ah, I thought it was something specific to Ruin itself. That makes sense (the stat topic has L2 weapons at least, for all that IIRC Snowfire votes on L1's).
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2011, 06:11:21 AM »
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Lady (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Jenna Angel (Digital Devil Saga)
Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Isolde (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis)

Heavy

Rei (Breath of Fire III) vs Lloyd (Legend of Dragoon)
Elliot (Legaia 2: Duel Saga) vs Wren (Phantasy Star IV)

Middle

Florina (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword) vs Lightning (Final Fantasy XIII)
Mathias (Suikoden V) vs Albel Nox (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time)

Light

Mao (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Akaghi (Suikoden IV)
Piccolo (Suikoden III) vs Melody Vilente (Wild ARMs 3)
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2011, 02:36:42 PM »
Quote from: Ciato on September 06, 2011, 06:11:21 AM
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Lady (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Jenna Angel (Digital Devil Saga)
Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Isolde (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis)

Heavy

Rei (Breath of Fire III) vs Lloyd (Legend of Dragoon)
Elliot (Legaia 2: Duel Saga) vs Wren (Phantasy Star IV)

Middle

Florina (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword) vs Lightning (Final Fantasy XIII)
Mathias (Suikoden V) vs Albel Nox (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time)

Light

Mao (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Akaghi (Suikoden IV)
Piccolo (Suikoden III) vs Melody Vilente (Wild ARMs 3)
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2011, 03:00:23 AM »
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Lady (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Jenna Angel (Digital Devil Saga) - Jenna
Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Isolde (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis) - Isolde

Heavy

Rei (Breath of Fire III) vs Lloyd (Legend of Dragoon) - Lloyd...wow
Elliot (Legaia 2: Duel Saga) vs Wren (Phantasy Star IV) - Elliot

Middle

Florina (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword) vs Lightning (Final Fantasy XIII) - Lightning
Mathias (Suikoden V) vs Albel Nox (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) - Albel

Light

Mao (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Akaghi (Suikoden IV) - Akaghi
Piccolo (Suikoden III) vs Melody Vilente (Wild ARMs 3) - PiccoloAll for the win

Demon King Piccolo (Suikoden III) vs Seibzehn (Xenogears) - Piccolo.  Clearly destroys machines in-universe
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2011, 06:26:54 PM »

Florina (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword) vs Lightning (Final Fantasy XIII)
Mathias (Suikoden V) vs Albel Nox (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time)


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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2011, 01:31:12 AM »
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Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Isolde (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis) - Holy smokes I can vote on things.

Heavy

Rei (Breath of Fire III) vs Lloyd (Legend of Dragoon)

Middle

Mathias (Suikoden V) vs Albel Nox (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time)- Can't think of a way for Mathias to have a chance here :(

Light

Mao (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Akaghi (Suikoden IV)- Hitting weakness iirc?~
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Re: Tourney 2011 Round 5: Semi-finals!
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2011, 04:25:21 AM »
All things considered, I decided to just let this round run an extra week.

So no, I didn't forget!
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