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Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« on: December 27, 2011, 05:35:43 AM »
Week 2!  A note of LOSS after a team's names merely means they have a previous loss and must win out to avoid elimination.

Heavyweight Division- Badge of Speed

Clarissa Arwin and Alexia Lynn Elesius (Wild ARMs XF) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Lucas and Kumatora (Mother 3) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Asellus and White Rose (SaGa Frontier) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Augustine Naboor and Lilly Pendragon (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Gau and Mog (Final Fantasy VI) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Snow Villiers and Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)  vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Stocke and Aht (Radiant Historia) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Jessica De'Alkirk and Luna  (Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Jude Maverick and Kresnik Ahtreide (Wild ARMs 4) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Crono and Nadia 'Marle' Guardia (Chrono Trigger) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Ulrika Mulberry and Etward Dysler (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Tidus and Rikku (Final Fantasy X) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Dorothy and Lion (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Jowy Atreides and Tengaar (Suikoden II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Fujin and Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Ryudo and Millenia (Grandia II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Yosuke Hanamura and Teddie (Persona 4) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Dekar and Lexis (Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Weigraf Folles and Beowulf Cadmus (Final Fantasy Tactics) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Lyon and Miakis (Suikoden V) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Razelux Mitzen and Liliane Valendorf (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Maya Schroedinger and Virginia Maxwell (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Pamela Ibis and Flay Gunnar (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Meru and Albert Serdio (Legend of Dragoon) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Peppita Rosetti and Adray Lasbard (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Vanille de Oerba and Clair 'Lightning' Farron (Final Fantasy XIII) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Blanca and Lucia (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

 
 
Prove Yourself Division- Badge of Damage

Emma Hetfield and Mariel (Wild ARMs Alter Code F) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Varkas and Sydonia (Suikoden) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Tim Rhymeless and Luceid (Wild ARMs 2) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Thomas and Cecile (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Estella and Rody (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Saradin and Norn (Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen)  vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Jin Uzuki and Gaignun Kukai Jr. (Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Cyan Garamonde and Banon (Final Fantasy VI) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Guido and Mullen (Grandia) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Genis Sage and Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Edward and Tellah (Final Fantasy IV) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Chu-Chu and Maria Balthasar (Xenogears) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Doll and Cotton (SaGa Frontier) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Noel Chandler and Chisato Madision (Star Ocean: The Second Story) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Liz and Ard (Wild ARMs 2) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Alfred Shroedinger and Shady Thousand (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Rufus Shinra and Palmer (Final Fantasy VII) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Mario and Luigi (Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Flonne and Gordon (Disgaea: Hour of Darkness) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Solt and Peppor (Chrono Cross) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Mallow and Croc (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2011, 06:53:12 AM »
Lucas and Kumatora (Mother 3) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Mother 3, where everyone except Boney is below average speed.
Asellus and White Rose (SaGa Frontier) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - I'll bite.

Gau and Mog (Final Fantasy VI) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Well.
Stocke and Aht (Radiant Historia) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Push Assault into Frost Star Trap should just barely do it to me? Edit: sleep is apparently out.  Still sticking with gut but it's closer now.
Jessica De'Alkirk and Luna  (Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - fweem

Crono and Nadia 'Marle' Guardia (Chrono Trigger) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - fweem

Dorothy and Lion (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - edit: whelp
Jowy Atreides and Tengaar (Suikoden II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Magic blitz
Fujin and Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - On general principle if nothing else.
Ryudo and Millenia (Grandia II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - can't get that sbe off if you don't get a turn

Dekar and Lexis (Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Half-filled IP bar probably means they get to squeak by on the one shot of Stun Shocker Lexis is getting here.  Without it they're dead, though.
Weigraf Folles and Beowulf Cadmus (Final Fantasy Tactics) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - fweem

Meru and Albert Serdio (Legend of Dragoon) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Well this isn't happening
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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2011, 08:01:39 AM »
Heavyweight Division- Badge of Speed

Clarissa Arwin and Alexia Lynn Elesius (Wild ARMs XF) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Lucas and Kumatora (Mother 3) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Asellus and White Rose (SaGa Frontier) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Some sort of Mystic shenanigans.
Augustine Naboor and Lilly Pendragon (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - They can kill him before he gets off the G. Dragon... at worst, I think I see Augustine baaaarely surviving and he can get the kill.

Gau and Mog (Final Fantasy VI) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Magic Urn probably doesn't get any crazy Magic Defense, but... Eh, gutcheck.
Snow Villiers and Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)  vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Probably have some combo of something.
Stocke and Aht (Radiant Historia) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Sleep at worst.
Jessica De'Alkirk and Luna  (Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Sleep...maybe...?

Jude Maverick and Kresnik Ahtreide (Wild ARMs 4) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Uhhh....
Crono and Nadia 'Marle' Guardia (Chrono Trigger) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - If Marle could get that turn, she could Stop Ryu 2...
Ulrika Mulberry and Etward Dysler (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Tidus and Rikku (Final Fantasy X) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Uhhhhh...

Dorothy and Lion (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Jowy Atreides and Tengaar (Suikoden II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Fujin and Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Ryudo and Millenia (Grandia II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Yosuke Hanamura and Teddie (Persona 4) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Dekar and Lexis (Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Weigraf Folles and Beowulf Cadmus (Final Fantasy Tactics) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Lyon and Miakis (Suikoden V) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Razelux Mitzen and Liliane Valendorf (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Maya Schroedinger and Virginia Maxwell (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Pamela Ibis and Flay Gunnar (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Meru and Albert Serdio (Legend of Dragoon) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Peppita Rosetti and Adray Lasbard (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Vanille de Oerba and Clair 'Lightning' Farron (Final Fantasy XIII) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Blanca and Lucia (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

 
 
Prove Yourself Division- Badge of Damage

Emma Hetfield and Mariel (Wild ARMs Alter Code F) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Varkas and Sydonia (Suikoden) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Tim Rhymeless and Luceid (Wild ARMs 2) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Thomas and Cecile (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Estella and Rody (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - M. Repel?
Saradin and Norn (Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen)  vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - lol magic
Jin Uzuki and Gaignun Kukai Jr. (Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Cyan Garamonde and Banon (Final Fantasy VI) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Guido and Mullen (Grandia) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Genis Sage and Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Edward and Tellah (Final Fantasy IV) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Chu-Chu and Maria Balthasar (Xenogears) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Doll and Cotton (SaGa Frontier) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Noel Chandler and Chisato Madision (Star Ocean: The Second Story) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Liz and Ard (Wild ARMs 2) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Alfred Shroedinger and Shady Thousand (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Rufus Shinra and Palmer (Final Fantasy VII) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Mario and Luigi (Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Flonne and Gordon (Disgaea: Hour of Darkness) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Solt and Peppor (Chrono Cross) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Mallow and Croc (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Rest later

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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2011, 08:13:56 AM »
Augustine is average (actually slightly below average) HP. That shouldn't even come close to surviving G. Dragon which is something like 5-6x average damage. Nobody in this field should be able to survive it (unless you use an extremely high kill point).

Ryu2 can block sleep.

Ryu2 is about 1.56x pdur and 1.08x mdur. He's ever-so-slightly above average speed (101% or so with the Dragon Sword). Note that the stat topic includes a stupidly rare Rand armour so the def average is lower and the speed average is higher than the topic claims (also Ryu really should have Dragon Sword as his default). His damage... I'm not going to bother calculating, you can't reduce it and it kills everyone here.

Clarissa Arwin and Alexia Lynn Elesius (Wild ARMs XF) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Rob Turn.
Asellus and White Rose (SaGa Frontier) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Even assuming Ryu outspeeds Asellus... WhiteRose opens with GlassShield. Ryu can't use G Dragon since it won't kill White Rose, and he certainly isn't winning with anything else. I guess there's an argument for G.Dragon > GlassShield but meh.
Augustine Naboor and Lilly Pendragon (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Their damage kills average, but Ryu is much better than that.

Gau and Mog (Final Fantasy VI) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Gau contributes a 50% chance of winning, Mog drives it slightly higher but not up to 67%. So it depends how you vote on status!
Snow Villiers and Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)  vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Um yeah FF13 characters are probably all average speed, and even if they aren't you need to see STEELGUARD! reducing G. Dragon.
Stocke and Aht (Radiant Historia) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Frost Trap probably kills, yeah.
Jessica De'Alkirk and Luna  (Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): They're doing what exactly?

Jude Maverick and Kresnik Ahtreide (Wild ARMs 4) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Can't blitz Ryu with physicals.
Crono and Nadia 'Marle' Guardia (Chrono Trigger) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Crono doesn't accomplish anything by himself, Ryu outspeeds Marle.
Ulrika Mulberry and Etward Dysler (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): More abstaining.
Tidus and Rikku (Final Fantasy X) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): This team's decent at blitzing, but too physical about it. Rikku contributes almost nothing here, so.

Dorothy and Lion (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Really don't think they can do much with sleep blocked.
Jowy Atreides and Tengaar (Suikoden II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Jowy wins this alone, which is good, because it saves me wondering who goes first between Tengaar and Ryu.
Fujin and Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Fujin turned out below average speed?
Ryudo and Millenia (Grandia II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Crono/Marle situation at best. I mean there's CANCELLING HYPE but no, I don't go for that unless the move actually charges in some way.

Dekar and Lexis (Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): No IP gauges. Maybe someday.
Weigraf Folles and Beowulf Cadmus (Final Fantasy Tactics) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Crono/Marle situation.
Lyon and Miakis (Suikoden V) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Vermillion Sky and a Miakis physical combined kill.

Razelux Mitzen and Liliane Valendorf (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Oh yeah those auto-life skills I hate. Whatever, Ryu can smash with G Dragon and tank puny physicals with Guts unless Raze had revival I'm forgetting.
Maya Schroedinger and Virginia Maxwell (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): If only Maya weren't a limit boss. And if they weren't both physical...
Pamela Ibis and Flay Gunnar (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Well that's one way around Immortal Body.
Meru and Albert Serdio (Legend of Dragoon) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Bye LoD team~

Peppita Rosetti and Adray Lasbard (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Inclined to think both SO3ers are on the slow side of the curve.
Vanille de Oerba and Clair 'Lightning' Farron (Final Fantasy XIII) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): See the other FF13 team.
Blanca and Lucia (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Crono/Marle situation.

Other side of things later.
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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2011, 09:55:44 AM »
Heavyweight Division- Badge of Speed

Clarissa Arwin and Alexia Lynn Elesius (Wild ARMs XF) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Rob Turn spam until Alexia gets Ryu into Sacrifice kill range.
Lucas and Kumatora (Mother 3) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - For what it's worth, I take the rolling system into account, and give characters one turn to save themselves or die if they have, say, 30% or more of their HP left after the fatal attack and aren't doubled.  Kumatora has passable healing, Lucas has amazing healing.  Ryu blows everything on G.Dragon and then tinks for the rest of the match.  If he waits to use G.Dragon, he gets statused and his G.Dragon damage reflected, killing him before Lucas/Kumatora.
Asellus and White Rose (SaGa Frontier) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Ryu wins if he gets a turn.  Asellus and White Rose are both faster than him and have Fascination.
Augustine Naboor and Lilly Pendragon (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Gau and Mog (Final Fantasy VI) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Snow Villiers and Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)  vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Stocke and Aht (Radiant Historia) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Jessica De'Alkirk and Luna  (Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Jude Maverick and Kresnik Ahtreide (Wild ARMs 4) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Crono and Nadia 'Marle' Guardia (Chrono Trigger) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Ulrika Mulberry and Etward Dysler (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Tidus and Rikku (Final Fantasy X) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Rikku uses something battle-ending.

Dorothy and Lion (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Would a Dorothy Overclock change the turn order of the first turn to get Lion get a Wild Cry off, or are they just boned?
Jowy Atreides and Tengaar (Suikoden II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - I...  Want to say Tengaar is faster and has Canopy Defense, thus neutering Ryu's big damage?
Fujin and Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Uh...  Fujin is below-average speed and Seifer can't kill in time on his own?
Ryudo and Millenia (Grandia II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Uh...  Tenseiken Slash?  No clue, Millenia moves after Ryu and they both get blown up if he gets a turn.

Yosuke Hanamura and Teddie (Persona 4) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Yosuke needs to land Tentarafoo before Ryu gets a turn.  Tentarafoo is listed as only 40% hit rating.
Dekar and Lexis (Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Needs Lexis to be allowed at least 38% gauge to not die instantly, and probably win.  I don't remember if I decided if I allowed this or not.
Weigraf Folles and Beowulf Cadmus (Final Fantasy Tactics) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Ahahaha splat.
Lyon and Miakis (Suikoden V) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Miakis is fastest, Lyon is next.  Miakis does something, Lyon has 70% ID.  I'm pretty sure that ID rates are tied to the user's magic stat, so Miakis could theoretically cast Battlefield to raise that...  Maybe.  Not 100% on this.

Razelux Mitzen and Liliane Valendorf (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Maya Schroedinger and Virginia Maxwell (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - They're faster!  They can't do anything with it!  Splat.
Pamela Ibis and Flay Gunnar (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Meru and Albert Serdio (Legend of Dragoon) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Peppita Rosetti and Adray Lasbard (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - I consider SO3 characters average, and either reward/penalize their speed based on what the enemy is doing.  Ryu is using a spell, which is technically ranged.  PENALTY!
Vanille de Oerba and Clair 'Lightning' Farron (Final Fantasy XIII) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Blanca and Lucia (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Normally?  They wouldn't win this.  However, I allow Blanca that ID4 he gets from the second Lobo Wolf Bout.

 
 
Prove Yourself Division- Badge of Damage

Emma Hetfield and Mariel (Wild ARMs Alter Code F) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Jeane's faster than Emma.  She can one-shot Emma before Water Field goes down. Wait Mariel has Full Revival that only costs 1 MP.  Um...

Jeane kills Mariel, Emma wins with her choice of fatal status (Arc-En-Ciel preferable) .  Jeane kills Mariel, Mariel uses Revive Fruit until Jeane runs out of L4 charges.

Huh.
Varkas and Sydonia (Suikoden) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Unite one-shots Jeane.
Tim Rhymeless and Luceid (Wild ARMs 2) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Sadly, I don't think Tim and Luceid have the ability to kill Jeane before she gets her second turn.
Thomas and Cecile (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - ...Suikoden 3 thoughts are ???

Estella and Rody (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Saradin and Norn (Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen)  vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Jin Uzuki and Gaignun Kukai Jr. (Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Cyan Garamonde and Banon (Final Fantasy VI) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Health doesn't heal dead people.

Guido and Mullen (Grandia) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Genis Sage and Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Not sure how I want to see Force Field working here.
Edward and Tellah (Final Fantasy IV) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Edward has fatal status.  Suikoden isn't that good at blocking those.
Chu-Chu and Maria Balthasar (Xenogears) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Elly solo Note to self, that says Maria, not Elly.  Yeah, Maria's slower than Jeane can Chu-Chu can't contribute much.

Doll and Cotton (SaGa Frontier) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Fascination, Shadowservant, laugh.  Cotton is icing on the cake.
Noel Chandler and Chisato Madision (Star Ocean: The Second Story) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Rune Shoes and Jeanne's Shield make Jeane cry.
Liz and Ard (Wild ARMs 2) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Not thinking about this.
Alfred Shroedinger and Shady Thousand (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Let's
Rufus Shinra and Palmer (Final Fantasy VII) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Do
Mario and Luigi (Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - The time
Flonne and Gordon (Disgaea: Hour of Darkness) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Warp
Solt and Peppor (Chrono Cross) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Again

Mallow and Croc (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - For a moment, I thought Croco might have Silence.  I remembered wrong, it seems.
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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2011, 03:46:32 PM »
Heavyweight Division- Badge of Speed

Clarissa Arwin and Alexia Lynn Elesius (Wild ARMs XF) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Clarissa/Alexia.  Rob Turn wins it. 
Lucas and Kumatora (Mother 3) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Ryu.  Slow team ;_;
Asellus and White Rose (SaGa Frontier) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - I....mmm...Ryu I think.  I'm not going to think about GlassShield much, here. 
Augustine Naboor and Lilly Pendragon (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Augustine/Lilly.  ID runes or, barring that, sleep.  Ryu can't block both, and they should both be faster.

Gau and Mog (Final Fantasy VI) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Ryu.
Snow Villiers and Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)  vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Ryu.
Stocke and Aht (Radiant Historia) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Ryu...I think.  It's fairly close.  I see the damage average higher in RH, so Ryu takes hits better...status...eh...Ryu blocks Sleep.
Jessica De'Alkirk and Luna  (Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - I...mmm...this is close.  Luna's fairly slow IIRC (granted, in a fast party).  So Jessica has to rely on her status weapons, which...are fairly good (silence or sleep).  I don't think they're good enough (20% per hit, she has 2 hits), but I'd really have to test them a bit more.  Like Nash's status, they seem really accurate against most enemies, so it could be resistance playing a factor.  I do remember both of them being extremely effective in, say, the Frontier (but most enemies in Althena's Tower are immune).  So yeah, Ryu for now.

Jude Maverick and Kresnik Ahtreide (Wild ARMs 4) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - So...could Funny-pose force Hex-specific attacks?  I'd see that maybe forcing Ryu to attack or use a Puppy instead of G.Dragon.  I seem to remember using it and enemies focused on Single-hex attacks.  Granted, this is based on an n of like 5, but...could be enough.  I'll give it to them for now until I know otherwise.
Crono and Nadia 'Marle' Guardia (Chrono Trigger) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Marle can't get faster.  Dead.  Ryu wins. 
Ulrika Mulberry and Etward Dysler (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Eh....Ryu.
Tidus and Rikku (Final Fantasy X) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Tardus/Rikku.  Yay status whoring and speed.  Or a perfect status weapon.  Either works. 

Dorothy and Lion (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Dorothy and Lion.  Dorothy speeds the group up, then Lion War Crys Ryu to stun him.  Next turn, Lion does the same, and stacks Alert, and then the team mauls Ryu.  gg no re.
Jowy Atreides and Tengaar (Suikoden II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Jowy and Tengaar.  Buy rune, kill.
Fujin and Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Fujin and Seifer.  Boss owns the world
Ryudo and Millenia (Grandia II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Ryu.  Ryudo...has to pray for a paralysis effect from Purple Lightning, which...is like 30%.  gg no re.

Yosuke Hanamura and Teddie (Persona 4) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Uh....well.  Yosuke can raise the accuracy of Tentarafoo to about 45% with his +3 stats weapon (man...he and Teddie lack LUK boosting stuff...sucks for them), higher if you let them toss on accessories, so up to 50% or so.  Teddie can get faster than Ryu with his equipment...but...mmm...you'd have to see Auto-Tarukaja armours allowing them to put out enough damage...which I think, even with a critical Brave Blade, that's not enough (unless you allow them to do an All-Out attack or get a Press Turn from it!  Which it is enough then!).  Uh...Ryu is favoured overall, here so go him.
Dekar and Lexis (Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Dekar/Lexis.  Go IP gauge hype!  Or just hype Lexis' immortally powerful Curse of the Sinistrals Form that Ryu can not hurt.
Weigraf Folles and Beowulf Cadmus (Final Fantasy Tactics) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Ryu.
Lyon and Miakis (Suikoden V) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Lyon/Miakis.  Hooray runes.

Razelux Mitzen and Liliane Valendorf (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Ryu.
Maya Schroedinger and Virginia Maxwell (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Maya/Virginia.  Hooray boss...also, Virginia Mystic status!
Pamela Ibis and Flay Gunnar (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Ryu.
Meru and Albert Serdio (Legend of Dragoon) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Ryu.  Unless Meru's status hammer was good enough for this...she needs that lucky stun to come out to take it. 

Peppita Rosetti and Adray Lasbard (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Peppitta/Adray.  MP drain fun!
Vanille de Oerba and Clair 'Lightning' Farron (Final Fantasy XIII) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Ryu.
Blanca and Lucia (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Uh...well, I do allow plot-items, and Blanca is specifically given (IIRC - I could be wrong) those ring status add-ons...which would be enough.  So Blanca/Lucia.

 
 
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Emma Hetfield and Mariel (Wild ARMs Alter Code F) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Emma/Mariel.  I...think.  S4 had an ID rune?  I always forget. 
Varkas and Sydonia (Suikoden) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Varkas/Sydonia.  Silent Lake, beat the ever-loving shit out of Jeanne.  ...except Silent Lake doesn't exist yet.  Uh...well.  They're both faster, so they kill with their choice of other rune anyway.
Tim Rhymeless and Luceid (Wild ARMs 2) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Tim and Luceid.  Yay high magical resilience! 
Thomas and Cecile (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Thomas and Cecile.

Estella and Rody (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Estella and Rody.
Saradin and Norn (Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen)  vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Jeane.
Jin Uzuki and Gaignun Kukai Jr. (Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - ...Jeanne.
Cyan Garamonde and Banon (Final Fantasy VI) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Jeanne.  Assuming there's an ID rune.  If not, Cyan/Banon.

Guido and Mullen (Grandia) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Guido/Mullen.  Yay boss.
Genis Sage and Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Genis/Colette. 
Edward and Tellah (Final Fantasy IV) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Tie.  Edward hides.  Game over.
Chu-Chu and Maria Balthasar (Xenogears) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Chu/Maria.  Yay Grow.

Doll and Cotton (SaGa Frontier) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Jeanne.
Noel Chandler and Chisato Madision (Star Ocean: The Second Story) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Noel/Chisato.
Liz and Ard (Wild ARMs 2) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Liz and Ard.
Alfred Shroedinger and Shady Thousand (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Alfed/Shady.

Rufus Shinra and Palmer (Final Fantasy VII) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Rufus/Palmer.
Mario and Luigi (Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Jeanne
Flonne and Gordon (Disgaea: Hour of Darkness) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Flonne and Gordon.  Yay for Flonne's boss form.
Solt and Peppor (Chrono Cross) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Solt and Peppor

Mallow and Croc (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Mallow and Croc.
[11:53] <+Meeple_Gorath> me reading, that's a good one

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[19:27] <+Terra_Condor> Han Kicks First?
[19:27] <%Grefter-game> Vader intercepts.
[19:27] <%Grefter-game> Touchdown and Alderaan explodes in the victory

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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2011, 04:13:36 PM »
Heavyweight Division- Badge of Speed

Clarissa Arwin and Alexia Lynn Elesius (Wild ARMs XF) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - They actually don't even need Rob Turn. Sacrifice+Alexia turn > Ryu here.
Asellus and White Rose (SaGa Frontier) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - sure
Augustine Naboor and Lilly Pendragon (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Indeed.

Gau and Mog (Final Fantasy VI) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - 67%+ status threshold.
Stocke and Aht (Radiant Historia) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Yeah, Star Traps are good enough with the combo shenanigans.
Jessica De'Alkirk and Luna  (Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - lol

Jude Maverick and Kresnik Ahtreide (Wild ARMs 4) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Ow.
Crono and Nadia 'Marle' Guardia (Chrono Trigger) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - aw yeah
Ulrika Mulberry and Etward Dysler (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Ulrika is faster than Ryu and he can't block Silence. Once -that's- out of the way, Ulrika just spams Cannonball to land Slow, then busts out the popcorn as Et's hula-hoop spam chews Ryu HP alive. Gooooooooooooooooooood luck.
Tidus and Rikku (Final Fantasy X) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - No matter what Tidus and Rikku do, they can't stop Ryu from getting a turn unless you allow Rikku the shit that makes her Godlike. In which case, this team is illegal. >_>

Dorothy and Lion (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Sleep blocker, the end. Unless you allow them to swap between front and back row, and even then things don't look great.
Jowy Atreides and Tengaar (Suikoden II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Canopy Defense is faster than even Jowy, worst comes to worst.
Fujin and Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - fufufu.
Ryudo and Millenia (Grandia II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Don't think I allow cancel hype here.

Yosuke Hanamura and Teddie (Persona 4) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - TENTARAFOO HYPE AW YEAH
Dekar and Lexis (Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - hahahahahaha everybody goes last against Ryu here
Weigraf Folles and Beowulf Cadmus (Final Fantasy Tactics) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - They're relying on either Lightning Stab's 25% silence odds or Beowulf dodging a G. Dragon with Aegis, and that's if Wieggy -is- clearly faster than Ryu. Don't think I trust the hax that much here.
Lyon and Miakis (Suikoden V) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - ID's not even necessary here. Miakis+Lyon blitz does its magic.

Razeluxe Mitzen and Liliane Valendorf (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Ryu outlasts Raze even through Auto-Life. Tough luck.
Maya Schroedinger and Virginia Maxwell (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Physicals to blitz Ryu2? Yeah.
Pamela Ibis and Flay Gunnar (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Ryu2 goes first. The end. EDIT: There's even the 25% chance that Guts kicks in for Flay, making it possible for Pamela to just revive and now Ryu can't kill her, but um yeah game of odds. >_>
Meru and Albert Serdio (Legend of Dragoon) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Holy cow.

Peppita Rosetti and Adray Lasbard (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Ryu2 going first.
Blanca and Lucia (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - This team is hopelessly unable to blitz Ryu.

 
 
Prove Yourself Division- Badge of Damage

Emma Hetfield and Mariel (Wild ARMs Alter Code F) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Holy cow, I think Jeanne is faster than Emma. That's game.
Varkas and Sydonia (Suikoden) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - I assume both are faster and Jeanne is very ST-centric. They might well OHKO, and certainly don't need to.
Tim Rhymeless and Luceid (Wild ARMs 2) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - ... they fail to 3HKO Jeanne, holy -fuck-. Tim could very well be slower to boot.
Thomas and Cecile (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Thomas and Cecile should 2HKO Jeanne, is my kneejerk, and they certainly don't -have- to.

Estella and Rody (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - FIREFLY RUNE HYPE LETS ESTELLA 2HKO not that this is necessary. Final Flame+two Rody turns should be inquestionably fatal at worst.
Saradin and Norn (Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen)  vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Blitz. Jeane is so frail. Norn -might- even be able to solo Jeanne if she's durable to Lightning enough to boot.
Jin Uzuki and Gaignun Kukai Jr. (Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Both are faster than Jeanne and I can't think of a way where she'd avoid being 3HKOed here.
Cyan Garamonde and Banon (Final Fantasy VI) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Hoooooooooooly shit the offense is too horrible.

Guido and Mullen (Grandia) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - MOGAY BOMB HYPE noes
Edward and Tellah (Final Fantasy IV) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Lamia Harp ultimately kicks Jeanne's ass. failure.
Chu-Chu and Maria Balthasar (Xenogears) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Jeanne blows Chu-Chu up first to avoid revival shenanigans. Maria doesn't 2HKO her so this is pretty much game.

Doll and Cotton (SaGa Frontier) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Jeanne just lets the OHKOs fly.
Noel Chandler and Chisato Madison (Star Ocean: The Second Story) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Chisato halves Lightning and Noel immunes it. Jeanne is toast.
Liz and Ard (Wild ARMs 2) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Um. I assume Jeane is faster than Ard here, since otherwise the lizards win. Two Liz turns and one Ard turn should manhandle her, but two Liz turns can't do it.
Alfred Shroedinger and Shady Thousand (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - <Elfboy> ;_;

Rufus Shinra and Palmer (Final Fantasy VII) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - aw yeah
Solt and Peppor (Chrono Cross) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - I -assume- Peppor outpaces Jeane, at least. They should 3HKO and etc.

Mallow and Croc (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Same deal as usual. They 3HKO, go first and Jeane has no MT worth noting.

I have to note that the speed challenge is overall a lot more interesting than the first week, particularly the one with Jeane. Just entertaining.
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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2011, 09:23:46 PM »
Tidus and Rikku (Final Fantasy X) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - No matter what Tidus and Rikku do, they can't stop Ryu from getting a turn unless you allow Rikku the shit that makes her Godlike. In which case, this team is illegal. >_>

To be fair, they have Darktouch+Sleeptouch+Silencetouch weapons as universal storebought options if you allow them.  IF you do, Ryu essentially has a 25% chance of NOT being silenced for three turns.

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Emma Hetfield and Mariel (Wild ARMs Alter Code F) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Holy cow, I think Jeanne is faster than Emma. That's game.

Remember that Mariel has full revival that costs 1 MP.  Strange as it may sound, since Jeane has no MT, she can keep the team running indefinitely (...Why is this possible?)

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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2011, 10:47:46 PM »
Well, assuming you shift things into CTB, Mariel speed is so beyond horrid that Jeane will doubleturn her quite quickly. Alternatively, I don't think Emma had turn 1 status (could be wrong there?) which means Jeane can always kill Mariel first.

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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2011, 11:09:55 PM »
Tidus and Rikku (Final Fantasy X) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - No matter what Tidus and Rikku do, they can't stop Ryu from getting a turn unless you allow Rikku the shit that makes her Godlike. In which case, this team is illegal. >_>

To be fair, they have Darktouch+Sleeptouch+Silencetouch weapons as universal storebought options if you allow them.  IF you do, Ryu essentially has a 25% chance of NOT being silenced for three turns.

Too bad I never did. >_>

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Emma Hetfield and Mariel (Wild ARMs Alter Code F) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Holy cow, I think Jeanne is faster than Emma. That's game.
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Remember that Mariel has full revival that costs 1 MP.  Strange as it may sound, since Jeane has no MT, she can keep the team running indefinitely (...Why is this possible?)

Jeane just OHKOs Mariel first, then. Emma really can't do jack shit to turn the tides on the turn she gets either. EDIT: NEB's explanation works too, because holy shit Mariel is like 55% average speed unless you give her full levels, and I don't think I could give her that without feeling really strange.
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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2011, 05:32:46 AM »
Clarissa Arwin and Alexia Lynn Elesius (Wild ARMs XF) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Augustine Naboor and Lilly Pendragon (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Gau and Mog (Final Fantasy VI) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
I don't think Gau's starting rages have any I-win status anyway, making this more of a slaughter than usual.  (Though I suppose Mog will use some awesome status...  very occasionally.)

Snow Villiers and Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)  vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Sadly, Sentinel actions are, if anything, on the functionally-slow slide since they don't tie enemies up with stun.

Stocke and Aht (Radiant Historia) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Jessica De'Alkirk and Luna  (Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Jude Maverick and Kresnik Ahtreide (Wild ARMs 4) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
So...  Jude spams Funny Pose.  Kresnik...  does what, exactly?  Haste, I guess, but not sure what the plan is here.  Think Ryu can handle Jude then kill Kresnik even with a depleted MP count.

Crono and Nadia 'Marle' Guardia (Chrono Trigger) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Tidus and Rikku (Final Fantasy X) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Jowy Atreides and Tengaar (Suikoden II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Insert Jowy antihype here, but Canopy Defense renders the point moot.

Fujin and Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Ryudo and Millenia (Grandia II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Dekar and Lexis (Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Weigraf Folles and Beowulf Cadmus (Final Fantasy Tactics) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Lyon and Miakis (Suikoden V) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Maya Schroedinger and Virginia Maxwell (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Meru and Albert Serdio (Legend of Dragoon) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
LoD Defend is apparently only 50% reduction, so no "Meru tanks G. Dragon" hype.

Peppita Rosetti and Adray Lasbard (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Vanille de Oerba and Clair 'Lightning' Farron (Final Fantasy XIII) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
100% a Saboteur speed respect check.
Blanca and Lucia (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Prove Yourself Division- Badge of Damage

Tim Rhymeless and Luceid (Wild ARMs 2) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Thomas and Cecile (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Estella and Rody (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Saradin and Norn (Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen)  vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Jin Uzuki and Gaignun Kukai Jr. (Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Cyan Garamonde and Banon (Final Fantasy VI) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Guido and Mullen (Grandia) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Genis Sage and Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
I'm going to assume that somebody among these two can scrape together Lightning Resist, and Colette at least will get some decent damage in anyway.

Edward and Tellah (Final Fantasy IV) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Chu-Chu and Maria Balthasar (Xenogears) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Noel Chandler and Chisato Madision (Star Ocean: The Second Story) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Liz and Ard (Wild ARMs 2) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Alfred Shroedinger and Shady Thousand (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Rufus Shinra and Palmer (Final Fantasy VII) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2011, 06:38:20 AM »
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So...  Jude spams Funny Pose. 

G Dragon is MT, so provoking Ryu to target Jude isn't going to accomplish anything! Not that it changes your vote, but still.

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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2011, 05:17:37 AM »
Heavyweight Division- Badge of Speed

Clarissa Arwin and Alexia Lynn Elesius (Wild ARMs XF) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Asellus and White Rose (SaGa Frontier) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Augustine Naboor and Lilly Pendragon (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Gau and Mog (Final Fantasy VI) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Snow Villiers and Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)  vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II
Stocke and Aht (Radiant Historia) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Jessica De'Alkirk and Luna  (Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Jude Maverick and Kresnik Ahtreide (Wild ARMs 4) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Crono and Nadia 'Marle' Guardia (Chrono Trigger) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Ulrika Mulberry and Etward Dysler (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)- Et practically solos this one.
Tidus and Rikku (Final Fantasy X) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Dorothy and Lion (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Jowy Atreides and Tengaar (Suikoden II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Fujin and Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Ryudo and Millenia (Grandia II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Yosuke Hanamura and Teddie (Persona 4) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Dekar and Lexis (Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Weigraf Folles and Beowulf Cadmus (Final Fantasy Tactics) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Lyon and Miakis (Suikoden V) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Razelux Mitzen and Liliane Valendorf (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)- If Ryu didn't have healing, would vote the other way.
Maya Schroedinger and Virginia Maxwell (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Pamela Ibis and Flay Gunnar (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Meru and Albert Serdio (Legend of Dragoon) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Peppita Rosetti and Adray Lasbard (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)- Peppita is faster to me.
Vanille de Oerba and Clair 'Lightning' Farron (Final Fantasy XIII) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Blanca and Lucia (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

 
 
Prove Yourself Division- Badge of Damage

Emma Hetfield and Mariel (Wild ARMs Alter Code F) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)- Thank god Jeane outpaces Emma. Also, Mariel for half levels at best.
Varkas and Sydonia (Suikoden) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Tim Rhymeless and Luceid (Wild ARMs 2) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Thomas and Cecile (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Estella and Rody (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)- Huh, they bit it last round?
Saradin and Norn (Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen)  vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Jin Uzuki and Gaignun Kukai Jr. (Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Cyan Garamonde and Banon (Final Fantasy VI) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Guido and Mullen (Grandia) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)- I can't.
Genis Sage and Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Edward and Tellah (Final Fantasy IV) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Chu-Chu and Maria Balthasar (Xenogears) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Doll and Cotton (SaGa Frontier) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Noel Chandler and Chisato Madision (Star Ocean: The Second Story) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Liz and Ard (Wild ARMs 2) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)- DAMN, LIZ ALMOST WON A MATCH WITH WHIMSY BOMB. WAIT, FASTER THAN LILKA IN FINAL FORM=3-2 HYPE  (Well, maybe not at 15% SD, it's close enough and Liz's speed is noted as an inbetween so there are at least some points where I think it happens).
Alfred Shroedinger and Shady Thousand (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Rufus Shinra and Palmer (Final Fantasy VII) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Flonne and Gordon (Disgaea: Hour of Darkness) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Solt and Peppor (Chrono Cross) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Mallow and Croc (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2011, 01:41:06 AM »
Heavyweight Division- Badge of Speed

Clarissa Arwin and Alexia Lynn Elesius (Wild ARMs XF) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Lucas and Kumatora (Mother 3) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - I give rolling HP characters a "final action" counter.
Asellus and White Rose (SaGa Frontier) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Augustine Naboor and Lilly Pendragon (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Gau and Mog (Final Fantasy VI) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Mog status is good enough for me to tilt this in FF6's favor.
Snow Villiers and Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)  vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Stocke and Aht (Radiant Historia) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Jessica De'Alkirk and Luna  (Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Jude Maverick and Kresnik Ahtreide (Wild ARMs 4) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Crono and Nadia 'Marle' Guardia (Chrono Trigger) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Can't Crono OHKO average? And isn't Ryu2 like 1x Magic Durability?
Tidus and Rikku (Final Fantasy X) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - I allow Common Steals.

Dorothy and Lion (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Jowy Atreides and Tengaar (Suikoden II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Fujin and Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Ryudo and Millenia (Grandia II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - I allow Cancel moves to delay susceptible targets by a half-turn. In a team setting like this, it matters!

Yosuke Hanamura and Teddie (Persona 4) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Dekar and Lexis (Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Now I'm kinda angry that I allow starting IP. Dekar should not win Speed matches.
Weigraf Folles and Beowulf Cadmus (Final Fantasy Tactics) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Lyon and Miakis (Suikoden V) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

Maya Schroedinger and Virginia Maxwell (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - I allow the Elemental Mediums, but even still, Ginny doesn't have anything to stop this.
Pamela Ibis and Flay Gunnar (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Dammit Flay, be useful.
Meru and Albert Serdio (Legend of Dragoon) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - A different collection of Dragoons might have worked here.

Peppita Rosetti and Adray Lasbard (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - SO3 Chaos hype.
Vanille de Oerba and Clair 'Lightning' Farron (Final Fantasy XIII) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)
Blanca and Lucia (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II)

 
 
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Emma Hetfield and Mariel (Wild ARMs Alter Code F) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Sure, I'm down with Mariel revival hype.
Varkas and Sydonia (Suikoden) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Unites work.
Tim Rhymeless and Luceid (Wild ARMs 2) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Thomas and Cecile (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Unites not good enough!

Estella and Rody (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Saradin and Norn (Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen)  vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Cyan Garamonde and Banon (Final Fantasy VI) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Guido and Mullen (Grandia) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Genis Sage and Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Edward and Tellah (Final Fantasy IV) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Chu-Chu and Maria Balthasar (Xenogears) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Doll and Cotton (SaGa Frontier) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Noel Chandler and Chisato Madision (Star Ocean: The Second Story) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Liz and Ard (Wild ARMs 2) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Alfred Shroedinger and Shady Thousand (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Rufus Shinra and Palmer (Final Fantasy VII) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Flonne and Gordon (Disgaea: Hour of Darkness) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)
Solt and Peppor (Chrono Cross) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

Mallow and Croc (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV)

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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2011, 01:53:38 AM »
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Can't Crono OHKO average?

Uh... no. I have no idea where you get that idea, he has 3HKO damage. If had OHKO damage to go with that speed and status immunity he'd be Godlike.

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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2011, 03:14:39 AM »
I did mention Crono having OHKO damage last time....  in response to OK's numbers where he seemed to be multiplying unscaled boss HP by 2.5, and assuming this could be an "average damage OHKOs" interp.  In which case Crono does have a OHKO and the DL is the speeDL where healing is worthless.   Which would be silly.

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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2011, 07:57:41 AM »
How do Dekar and Lexis win that fight even with starting IP, though? Ryu2 is faster and OHKOs both of them at the same time.

EDIT: Also, see Elfboy posts earlier as to why Mariel revival hype completely fails. Jeane OHKOs Mariel with L3s and Emma has zero first-turn decisive options. Also, Cecile and Thomas so don't give a shit about the unite there. They're both faster, borderline 2HKO Jeane at worst (Cecile+2 Thomas turns = dead Jeane) and she's entirely ST for anything worth bothering with. Also, how do Mallow and Croco lose to Jeanne when they're both faster and 3HKOing her?
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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2011, 08:00:10 AM »
Lexis has a paralysis IP, apparently.

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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2011, 08:02:40 AM »
And Lexis is also slower than Ryu, isn't he? No matter the scaling you take, wouldn't he be closer to Guy than even to Maxim in the speed scale?
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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2011, 08:32:51 AM »
Lexis is faster than Maxim.  Very marginally but still, scaled to the time he beats Ryu out ever so slightly.
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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2011, 02:25:43 PM »
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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2011, 07:08:27 PM »
Clarissa Arwin and Alexia Lynn Elesius (Wild ARMs XF) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Rob Turn, yup. Haven't even seen Alexia yet, but don't need to.
Lucas and Kumatora (Mother 3) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - I....think rolling HP does it. Lucas can heal himself enough while he's still counting down from the G.Drgn and while Kuma's dead she can get one shot off first. Lucas outslugs from there.
Asellus and White Rose (SaGa Frontier) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Glass Shield, yeah.
Augustine Naboor and Lilly Pendragon (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - SPLAT

Gau and Mog (Final Fantasy VI) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Sorry Mog, but even you don't have the tankiness for this.
Snow Villiers and Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)  vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - No vote.
Stocke and Aht (Radiant Historia) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - They both outspeed, trap damage does it's thing.
Jessica De'Alkirk and Luna  (Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - SPLAT

Jude Maverick and Kresnik Ahtreide (Wild ARMs 4) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - They both go fist! And do jack shit worth mentioning with it.
Crono and Nadia 'Marle' Guardia (Chrono Trigger) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Marle doesn't see a turn, that's game.
Ulrika Mulberry and Etward Dysler (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - No vote, didn't play Ulrika's path.
Tidus and Rikku (Final Fantasy X) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - I tend to vote on common steals Rikku, so...not sure if they can pull out enough or have the status or something. Been awhile since I've had to look up what she's got.

Dorothy and Lion (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - No vote.
Jowy Atreides and Tengaar (Suikoden II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Does Jowy OHKO here? I think he does. I'll give him teh benefit of the doubt.
Fujin and Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - SPLAT
Ryudo and Millenia (Grandia II) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - SPLAT

Yosuke Hanamura and Teddie (Persona 4) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Tentarafoo would do it, but hit rate is too low.
Dekar and Lexis (Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - I don't think Lexus goes first, so that's that.
Weigraf Folles and Beowulf Cadmus (Final Fantasy Tactics) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - I forget how fast Beo is, but I'm going to look at the other votes here and assume "not fast enough". Weigraf doesn't manage it alone.
Lyon and Miakis (Suikoden V) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - They both go first...don't remember how impressive Miakis damage is without twinking, but Lyon hits the right defense at least. I'll give them the nod.

Razelux Mitzen and Liliane Valendorf (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Too little, too slow.
Maya Schroedinger and Virginia Maxwell (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Not enough to kill.
Pamela Ibis and Flay Gunnar (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Too little, too slow.
Meru and Albert Serdio (Legend of Dragoon) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Ryu outspeeds Albert I'm damn near positive. Meru doesn't OHKO.

Peppita Rosetti and Adray Lasbard (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) LOSS vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Not quite fast enough. Splat.
Vanille de Oerba and Clair 'Lightning' Farron (Final Fantasy XIII) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - No vote
Blanca and Lucia (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II) - Splat.

Most stuff with Ryu2 is pretty clear cut, huh?

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Emma Hetfield and Mariel (Wild ARMs Alter Code F) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Zap.
Varkas and Sydonia (Suikoden) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Pretty sure their unite kills. If not, she zaps one, then gets picked off by the other on round 2.
Tim Rhymeless and Luceid (Wild ARMs 2) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Trying to think of something they can do here and not coming up with much.
Thomas and Cecile (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Same as Varkas/Sydonia, really.

Estella and Rody (Suikoden III) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - I think Estella is faster and doesn't Jeanne have to target Rody first? I forget how those two work, to be honest.
Saradin and Norn (Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen)  vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Straightforward.
Jin Uzuki and Gaignun Kukai Jr. (Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - No vote.
Cyan Garamonde and Banon (Final Fantasy VI) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Zap.

Guido and Mullen (Grandia) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - No vote.
Genis Sage and Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Colette explodes, Genis can't kill in time? Sounds about right.
Edward and Tellah (Final Fantasy IV) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - 4a Edward means I don't have to think about this too much.
Chu-Chu and Maria Balthasar (Xenogears) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Gear sized Chu-Chu is clearly le*SHOT*

Doll and Cotton (SaGa Frontier) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - I forget Doll's speed, think either shadow or mystic magic can bullshit a win if she's faster, but I'll have to check.
Noel Chandler and Chisato Madision (Star Ocean: The Second Story) vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - I just assume SO2 PCs can get whatever elemental resists they need, really.
Liz and Ard (Wild ARMs 2) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - I think Jeanne is faster then Ard?
Alfred Shroedinger and Shady Thousand (Wild ARMs 3) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Zap

Rufus Shinra and Palmer (Final Fantasy VII) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Zap
Mario and Luigi (Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Okay, Mario goes first here easily. And...I think Luigi had an earlygame armor that gave him the ability to "follow mario", meaning he gets his turn right after Mario, regardless of speed. So he opts for that and 2 Bros attacks do the job neatly.
Flonne and Gordon (Disgaea: Hour of Darkness) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Zap
Solt and Peppor (Chrono Cross) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - Zap

Mallow and Croc (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars) LOSS vs Jeanne (Suikoden IV) - I forget what Croc has, to be honest.

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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2011, 05:28:03 PM »
Snow Villiers and Hope Estheim (Final Fantasy XIII)  vs Ryu (Breath of Fire II): Um yeah FF13 characters are probably all average speed, and even if they aren't you need to see STEELGUARD! reducing G. Dragon.

STEELGUARD! reduces basically everything (I think maybe not POIZN???), so it should reduce G. Dragon.  It reduces fixed damage attacks in its home game (e.g. 10,000 Needles, fall damage) as well as stuff like gravity.

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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2011, 05:59:49 PM »
That said, can Snow beat Ryu in a straight fight after the fact?  Guts gives him some sort of healing, and his high counter rate mean he can punish Snow when he's most vulnerable (ie actually attacking, not camping in Sentinel).  Probably needs math though.
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Re: Crazysauce Team Tournament: Week 2
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2011, 07:09:35 PM »
I don't know.  I'm just pointing things out.