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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #100 on: January 15, 2012, 06:12:07 AM »
Skyrim: How do you get eight pounds of leather from two pounds of hide I don't understand.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #101 on: January 15, 2012, 06:43:26 AM »
You need to stop playing that. In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics conservation of mass!

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #102 on: January 15, 2012, 10:21:54 AM »
Well, you do play a lot of games people should never play...

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #103 on: January 15, 2012, 03:42:58 PM »
New Vegas: Rocketed a cult of radiation zombies into the sun. And that's the nice way to end the quest! Finishing the quest properly took some doing thanks to the goddamned Nightkin and their crazy-ass leader trying to kill me all the time, but it worked out eventually. I also recruited Boone in town, so I've got my first follower. I got to Helios One, but approached from the side instead of the front, figured picking the lock was the normal way to enter, and thereby turned the entire garrison hostile when I left. So....yeah, back to my last hardsave. Also, I seem to have made an enemy of the New Age Retro Romans, but that's cool because their assassination squads carry some really expensive weapons. Hand-delivered free Super Sledge? I'll take that.
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #104 on: January 15, 2012, 04:25:53 PM »
You might want to go back to the first town after Goodsprings, if your repair or computer skill is high enough.    You can only have one human companion and one robot companion, and you can get EDI (robot) back in that town.  If your skills aren't high enough (70 computer, 50 repair IIRC?) you can still recruit it after picking up stuff around the game (I did it that way by the point you were at so it's not that hard, especially if you cleared the launchpad of nightkin already). If you don't you have to wait until you get to New Vegas to recruit Rex, who is worse in most ways but is also robopuppy so I used him instead because NV isn't hard. 

Also don't worry about alliances between the New California Republic and Laggy's Legion until you get to New Vegas.  Those two alliances are the really important ones, so the game is nice and resets the factions' alliances (unless you built up goodwill toward either of them in any way, you keep that.  Only things that soured relations between you and the faction are reset).
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #105 on: January 15, 2012, 05:03:33 PM »
So that means I can call down the Light of Judgment on Helios One with no repercussions?
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #106 on: January 15, 2012, 05:15:54 PM »
Finished Skyward Sword. All in all I have to say that I didn't enjoy the game. The game's big gimmick is of course motion controls, and this proved to be more annoying than exciting for me. Other than that, the game lacked a good soundtrack, didn't have interesting tools, and this game's 'assistant', despite looking cool, got to be pretty boring over time. The game is also overly reliant on puzzles in dungeons, to the point where fighting is barely an afterthought most of the time.

The final boss run was good, but other than that the game failed to impress.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #107 on: January 15, 2012, 05:36:20 PM »
Basically.  They're NCR right?  If you plan on heading straight for NV, yeah don't worry about it.  If you want to sidequest a bit I recommend not pissing off the NCR too much since they're basically the only faction you can sidequest with right now.  If you piss them off you'll have them hostile until you reach NV.  Since you have Boone (I stuck with him until I stopped playing, though I thought Cass was well written and used her a bit) you probably don't have to worry too much about that (I think Cass and Boone are the only companions you can pick up now that need positive alignment with NCR), though to get the best ending in an upcoming village you need to be on at least neutral terms with NCR IIRC.
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #108 on: January 15, 2012, 07:39:10 PM »
Skyrim: How do you get eight pounds of leather from two pounds of hide I don't understand.

And then you cut the leather into strips and it becomes light again.  Go figure.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #109 on: January 15, 2012, 08:01:22 PM »
Arkham Asylum, finished. Will post thoughts on the game as a whole later, but for now, I'm impressed.

Also impressed with Civ 4, mostly because it feels like they put a lot of work into making naval affairs matter a lot more with the easy bonuses to naval trade, the extra naval units (the Privateer especially, allowing the ability to harrass folks without entering a proper state of war is liberating) and the blockade option to punish people who want those lucrative trade options without getting enough of a navy to fend off privateers (or more serious naval units if a war's broken out).

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #110 on: January 15, 2012, 08:09:05 PM »
Submarines really should have the privateer flag, though. Bugs me.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #111 on: January 15, 2012, 08:17:47 PM »
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - Complete! I ended up using sword people as my team, which was fun. I used the big five + Elincia + Makalov + Mia + Zihark + Volug + Ranulf + Nealuchi + Jill + Pelleas + Oscar. Two Earth-Earth supports, which gave me hax evasion. The main discovery is that Nealuchi can accumulate a lot of strike level on 2-E with Elincia in the castle. Ranulf's Strike level was a significantly bigger problem, and I felt like I tried to get both the Strike they needed, but Nealuchi got it much more easily. It was a functional if not wonderful team. Makalov is a bit like a worse version of Titania, and Zihark's STR could be better. Volug was a power of great destruction as always, though, and Jill is amazing.

Pelleas is really a great person to just throw into a team. When he promotes he gets a B in Staves and frankly he is a better version of both the early mages (Soren, Ilyana, Calill) due to the Staff levels and a better version of the healers due to higher magic and more offensive capabilities. He's probably worse than Bastian but he is faster once he catches up remotely in levels (and 4-5 is helpful for getting him the levels he needs) which can be an advantage for certain things (and prevents him from being a liability later in the Endgame). He was my main healer lategame (at least when he wasn't spamming long range tomes) and he did a good job at it.

I missed Meg and her 30 RES (40 with the Wardwood!) on the dragon map. ;_; Curse thee, variety. The kill leader was Haar, who didn't even go to Endgame. I think he killed like 40 people on the desert map, which was hilarious. He was like the flying axe murderer or something.

Deaths were: Nolan, Ilyana (Part 1), Brom (Part 2), Naesala, Kieran, Leanne, Laura (Part 4), and Ena (Endgame). I am a bad person.

Good fun as always. Maybe I can play something new now.
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #112 on: January 15, 2012, 10:56:52 PM »
Thanks Niu =)

SF- I have a mermaid in my team and had to fight the obligatory Giant Squid. First time I fought it I used Asura but didn't get any Asura's Revenge triggers, I used Glass Shield/Broken Glass spam with White Rose and Victory Rune/Shadow Dagger with the mermaid. Asellus and White Rose ran out of resources for their main offence before the end of the fight and I was down to using Glass Shield spam with Asellus and pokes with the mermaid to finish it off. I reloaded and the second time I fought it I won much quicker with Victory Rune boosted Heaven/Hell and Glass Shield/Broken Glass spam =)

I am just exploring the rest of the dungeon for shinies now. Asura's Revenge is awesme. I saw it do 5000~ once after I'd used Victory Rune on Asellus. Big numbers so early! I like this game ^_^

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #113 on: January 15, 2012, 11:00:43 PM »
Oh, you'll want to make sure you use another sword to learn sword techs, since Asura can't actually learn those (unless of course you want to build Asellus in some other way). Once you learn e.g. StunSlash or DoubleSlash, you can start using those through Asura and learn more moves as normal, it's just that Asura's normal attack specifically doesn't let you learn anything new.

EDIT: Of course, disregard this if you've already learned StunSlash or DoubleSlash.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #114 on: January 16, 2012, 01:13:02 AM »
Skyrim: How do you get eight pounds of leather from two pounds of hide I don't understand.

And then you cut the leather into strips and it becomes light again.  Go figure.

And then you use it to make armor that weighs several times the sum of all the components.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #115 on: January 16, 2012, 03:27:04 AM »
Skyrim
Starting to get bored here. I should probably finish a playthrough before I just set it aside or trade it in.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #116 on: January 16, 2012, 05:31:27 AM »
So that means I can call down the Light of Judgment on Helios One with no repercussions?
Basically.  They're NCR right?  If you plan on heading straight for NV, yeah don't worry about it.  If you want to sidequest a bit I recommend not pissing off the NCR too much since they're basically the only faction you can sidequest with right now.  If you piss them off you'll have them hostile until you reach NV.  Since you have Boone (I stuck with him until I stopped playing, though I thought Cass was well written and used her a bit) you probably don't have to worry too much about that (I think Cass and Boone are the only companions you can pick up now that need positive alignment with NCR), though to get the best ending in an upcoming village you need to be on at least neutral terms with NCR IIRC.

Calling down the thunder at Helios gets Boone all pissy and turns him hostile.  You can work around the NCR infamy with disguises if you wanna sidequest though.  Cass only needs positive karma to keep.  Which is a joke to keep.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #117 on: January 16, 2012, 10:17:10 AM »
"Kill everyone there" is the legion option.  The self-interest option is to activate the ARCHIMEDES weapon system, because then you can get a laser designator for an orbital satellite weapon system.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #118 on: January 16, 2012, 10:26:32 AM »
Well yes, that was a given. My reward choices were (a) +4 to science, a skill I have already pumped; or (b) the ability to, once per day, summon a miles-high pillar of flame that reduces someone who has displeased me to ash.

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« Reply #119 on: January 16, 2012, 12:45:55 PM »
If it's not becoming clear already, the self interest path is usually the true path. 

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #120 on: January 16, 2012, 01:06:28 PM »
Thanks NEB =)

Asellus has Knife/Asura/Rune Blade for a weapon pool and as attacks, StunSlash, DoubleSlash, Swallowswing. HardSlash,ThunderThrust, Smash and Heaven/Hell for Sword skills, Glass Shield, Phantom Shot and Victory Rune for magic. I currently have her set up with Glass Shield, PS, VR and DS, HS, TT, Smash and Heaven/Hell for her skill set I think.

I think she is going to be my main kick ass girl =) She's still CT bait because she's pink and kind of reminds me of Terra. White Rose seems to be the main CT bait so far though~
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #121 on: January 16, 2012, 03:19:17 PM »
As a warning, you need to leave a free slot on her skillset to learn new sword techs, as well as develop her special mystic powers (although you won't be able to do the latter until you fight the next storyline boss). This goes for anyone who wants to learn sword or fist abilities, although not for those who want to learn gun or magic abilities.

Also, if you set only physical skills, or only magical skills, PCs become better at learning that type of skill provided they have at least 6 of them set (but less than 8 in the case of swords/fists, per above). You can tell you qualify for this if a little crown appears on the red/blue bar at the top. This also lowers the cost of all abilities by 1 (but also lowers their damage slightly). Of course it's still perfectly valid to build fighter/mages (I often do myself) just it's nice to be aware of the other advantages, and you can temporarily shift to one side or the other to speed up learning if you want.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #122 on: January 16, 2012, 03:32:14 PM »
Metal Gear Solid: Downloaded this on the PSN cause I figured it was time I finally played this classic or something, especially with Metal Gear Rising looking like a Metal Gear game I could actually get excited about ("its being made by the same guys who made Bayonetta, and seems to have similar gameplay? HELL YES!"), I figured I should familiarize myself with the lore some, so yeah.'


Anyway, completed.  Overall, game feels very much "For its time."  It did a bunch of unique things and was a new kind of game from what I can tell for its time, but overall the game shows its age.  Combat is stale, which normally isn't such a bad thing since the game encourages you to avoid it as much as possible, but when the game has forced combat sequences or, say, boss fights, it really highlights it.  Bosses are just not fun.  They're boring monotonous fights that basically come down to figuring out how you hurt them and how you avoid taking damage, then repeating it about 10 times.  Gray Fox was the only dynamic fight, I felt, as he kept changing his moves every bit of damage he takes, but he was boring for other reasons.  Game is ESPECIALLY bad when it forces First Person perspective fights (see Stinger or PSG), as not only does it have unintuitive vertical angle ranges, but every-time you're hit, it completely screws your aiming.  Sure, maybe its realistic, but regularly, realistic DETRACTS from fun.  Also its just not very smooth transitioning from overhead to first person on the fly just to move.

Stealth stuff was decently done, to its credit, and that's what the game builds itself on, so points for that.  Plot...is very much a case of "EXPOSITION!!!"  Codecs were cool at first, but by the end I was getting "GET ON WITH IT!" vibes, and villains have way too much ranting for their own good.  There's like 5 MASTER SCHEME reveals (which are meant to be twists and the twists themselves aren't bad mind) all with FULL 5 MINUTE SCENE EXPLANATIONS, and by 3rd, its annoying.  To say nothing of Liquid Snake's end game rants...all of them.  Its very much a game that "says 10 words when 2 would suffice" and its beyond "Fleshing out characters" as really, the character is well established, now its just "I'M TALKING FOR THE SAKE OF TALKING!!!"  At least plot scenes can be skipped so dying doesn't hurt in that regard...Codecs can not.  You can get through dialog fast, but if its a long codec, that's still a lot of text to skip through.

I know, there's some nice ham to be had when villains go into monologue mode...but that usually only works when there's one master scheme reveal.  Again, Metal Gear Solid has multiple so it defeats the purpose, so its not longer "ham" and now "useless padding." 



I suppose the game is decent enough, but its a combination of 'Not entirely my kind of thing" with not having aged too well, I feel.  Wasn't unplayable or anything, but compared to other contemporary big games like SotN or MMX4, I feel it didn't hold up to the "Nostalgia Test" as well. 


One last comment:
How in gods name is this an RPG?  Like...at all?  It lacked like every single quality of an RPG I can think of outside of "overhead camera" which is more just a trend (one which is often NOT used in 3D RPGs, albeit this predates most 3D RPGs.)  And to think, I've seen people say the game is "like Final Fantasy."  And even if they were referring to plot...no, it really isn't.

Mind you, MGS not being an RPG isn't actually a point against it so much as a huge O_o reaction when it comes to people that claim it is one.  SotN is bad enough in this regard, but at least that game had qualities that are associated with RPGs (RPG style stats, equipment, and leveling all come to mind.)  MGS didn't even have as much as SotN and that says something.



...and yes, I do plan on getting MGS HD Collection just because its 3 games for $40, so I can't see this being a bad deal, if at least one of those games ends up decent (and from my understanding, MGS3 sounds like its an improvement over original in most ways?)
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #123 on: January 16, 2012, 03:33:15 PM »
Hm. I got to New Vegas - at least the outskirts of it - and my favor with the Legion appears to have been reset, as mentioned. Except that I can tell it's been reset because the assassination squads are still coming after me, only when I kill them I see my reputation drop from Neutral to Shunned/Hated/Vilified all over again. So now I'm reloading every time I run into the bastards, worried that if I beat them I'll permanently wreck my reputation with a major faction. Am I right to be worried? Will my rep get reset again later down the line? Can I just kill them all and make Caesar hate me without losing much? Should I just stay in Vegas and stop sidequesting in the contested territories until I can build some positive rep? (Will that even stop the squads? Being neutral apparently didn't.) Stupid assassins.

Edit: Wait, who in God's name called MGS an RPG?
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #124 on: January 16, 2012, 03:35:42 PM »
Quote
Edit: Wait, who in God's name called MGS an RPG?

A surprising number of people on the internet.  Never underestimate human stupidity, ESPECIALLY online?
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