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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #225 on: January 25, 2012, 11:56:22 PM »
Dragon Shield's what you fought the Earth Dragon for, yeah. One of the best shields in the game, give it to Asellus or Lute probably. Be warned that Triple Thrust disables it (and all other shields) for that round, but most other sword moves will allow it. Magic won't, unfortunately, and monsters can't use it.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #226 on: January 26, 2012, 03:10:26 AM »
Skyrim: Convinced people to stop killing each other (largely because I'm too apathetic to support either side) so we could focus on killing dragons instead. Said arrangement involved putting Markarth and Riften under control of the worst douchebags in each city. As if those towns weren't big enough dungheaps already. Oh well, I'm about at the final dungeon so kinda past caring.

Markarth dude is probably only third-worst guy in the city.  And it's not like Riften wasn't already under the replacement's control anyway.

My posts are so worthless.

Still, as wretched as the towns were, the jarls in charge didn't seem like bad people. I would've gladly seen someone toss out the dude in Dawnstar instead, for example (the guy who starts every encounter with "You're not as dumb as you look.")

Also: "It is important to realize when one has only a single choice." <-- Truest line spoken in this game.

Igmund has to deal with the ramifications of his father's choices during the beginning of the Forsworn uprising, so he's been dealing with a very wretched situation for 30 years.  Laila meanwhile, to go on a random theory tangent here, has to act like a blockhead to prevent Maven from just straight killing her and taking her Throne.

And then Skald is a useless idiot.  I don't think a single person in Dawnstar actually supports him.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #227 on: January 26, 2012, 08:56:13 AM »
Tales of Maj'Eyal:

So Ghouls are (possibly, or rather, it's possible to fuck up) too slow to get the good ending that everyone else gets easily. At least, I screwed it up. (I think it's quite possible to do, just uh...very, very tight time limit, and Necromancer was not the Class Of Choice for getting through that area fast.)

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So instead, between that and a previous decision I made, everyone's fucked.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #228 on: January 26, 2012, 02:28:10 PM »
Shadow the Hedgehog: Finished one path, one of the neutral ones anyway.  Honestly, the game isn't really that bad, in terms of gameplay, and its actually fun at times too.  It leads me to believe some of the complaints about the game are people doing something stupid and blaming the game.  "I homing attacked off the edge of the screen :(" ...yeah, that happens when you spontaneously use Homing Attack without actually thinking about a direction, etc.  You know...exactly the same as what happens when you do it in Sonic Adventure 2? 

This isn't to say the game is perfect; still has some polish issues and controls are a little too loose, but this isn't a game specific flaw; SA1 and SA2 had similar issues.  I seriously think people just sort of assumed "Game is about Shadow, not Sonic, therefor it sucks, lets find stuff to complain about!"  Or "It wasn't exactly like Sonic games therefor bad."  Um, ok, the game is you know, HONEST about it being a spin off; its called "Shadow the Hedgehog", not, "Sonic Gaiden: The Adventures of Shadow" or something.  It honestly just comes off as a more action oriented version of Sonic Adventure 2 (not quite as good as the Sonic/Shadow stages in that game, but still adequate), with a few gimmick things.



...also, it occurred to me while playing the game that, conceptually, this game has so many things in common with Vincent May Cry its not even funny.  The key difference, of course, is VMC basically just creates a completely divergent game, genre wise, out of a plot heavy game with a lot of backstory.  Shadow the Hedgehog retained gameplay from other 3D Sonics, just with an altered focus (more action, less platforming...though, the platforming is still there), and is based off a series that has very loose plot, off a character whose backstory is so self contained, they could retcon the fuck out of it, and little would be lost.  this isn't to say Shadow's plot is good, just its not a trainwreck, and more generic bad than flat out offensive (if nothing else, Maria is just vaguely annoying instead of Shiontastic like Lucrecia)

...in fact, the two games have so much in common conceptually, I feel like comparing the two in a big mega rant in a self contained topic at some point!  Yes I know no one will care (and that do will want me dead), but shh!
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #229 on: January 26, 2012, 11:16:10 PM »
Skyrim: No OHSA compliance in Not!Valhalla, I see. Really, that is the least safe bridge I have ever seen. Not even railless Star Wars bridges slope dangerously to either side like that! Also...so, endgame area, final boss is lurking somewhere out of sight making disturbing noises. I'm walking through a deep mist in the warriors' afterlife. There are dead dudes around telling me to beware the dragon. This should be unnerving, and it might've been except that the only thing I can do is mentally complete their statements with, "--that sits on your doorstep. He eats little boys. Puppy dogs' tails...beeeeg fat snails. Pull the string! Pull the string!" I'm not sure what this says about me.

Anyway, final boss largely went down like a chump. (Twice, actually, because the game crashed immediately after the first kill.) I feel like spamming low-level spells shouldn't be the most reliable way to kill things, but it pretty consistently was.

I didn't kill Paarthurnax. He failed to betray me or do anything particularly heinous. Bite me, Delphine.

I gather the game doesn't have a definitive ending, so calling it quits here. Killing the villain's enough for me, thanks (really, I was over the game a while ago). I didn't bother to resolve the civil war plot and have no real interest in going back to do so. Pretty sure I've made my impressions plain by now. It's wonderful eye candy and exploration is a lot of fun. Actually attending to the quests and dungeons are significantly less so. There are worse to spend your time, but it pretty solidly cemented the misgivings I developed about Bethesda during Fallout 3. Skyrim just happens to look a helluva lot better and not shit all over a setting I like.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #230 on: January 27, 2012, 03:08:42 AM »
Star Ocean 2 Precis Solo: Fuck. Indy. Not finishing this.


Dragon warrior 2 GBC: yaaaay...
Sometimes I just want something really generic.
And like Shining in the darkness, I'm actually surprised! Game is not all that bad!
Could it be a... 4/10?!?!?

- Status spells are all very effective, cheap and cool to use in battle, something you don't really see in Dragon Quest 1/3/4/5/6/7/8 (I haven't played 9) I love it.
- You can only target enemy groups but the AI is totally awesome about this and always makes the smartest choices.
- Games were all about cryptic hints back then, but I've figured out most of it so far without going mad / using a faq.
- When you get the boat the entire world opens up, which is kinda cool. There's only one place that seems hidden behind stupid mountains.
- For now I haven't seen any of those annoying double acting Dragon Quest bosses, and I'm already near the end of the game. I think.
- Very good treasures/item progression

The beginning is total BS though. You're alone and have to look for the first other PC, who's also looking for you. So you go all around the continent and always miss him, have to backtrack constantly, etc, before finally meeting him.
Recruiting the third PC is also a very annoying task.

And the worst part about it is that it's slow as hell, typical for NES games. Everything would be a lot better at 300% speed.

Does anyone know if the itemcasts have infinite uses?



Edit: Oh yes, I forgot about the racist robots from SaGa 2.
They just beat Venus. Robots don't need beauty or love.
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #231 on: January 27, 2012, 04:51:07 AM »
FE10 - Shitty person playthrough continues! As does the carnage. I'm currently doing the pathsplit stuff. Fiona is finally a good PC! Astrid is not totally awful. Got Tormod though. Oh gawd he's bad. :(

Death count: Leo, Laura, Oscar, Nephenee, Boyd, Jill, Heather, Rolf, Haar, Titania (just died on the mansion!). On the plus side, I got OLIVER! Oliver for Titania is a fair trade.

Fun thing about this playthrough is that because I didn't use any of the good Greil Mercs much, they are all underlevelled and not very good in Part 4. I mean, they are fine, just not what I'm used to. Leaves me with taking more risks with them than they can withstand.

I think Lyre is the best of the three terrible PCs.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #232 on: January 27, 2012, 05:47:04 AM »
I didn't kill Paarthurnax. He failed to betray me or do anything particularly heinous. Bite me, Delphine.

Hearing the greybeard dude bitch you out for taking the other option is the only time I ever felt guilty about doing something evil in Skyrim. This probably speaks volumes considering my first step after murdering Ulfric was to strip his clothes and put them on a mannequin in my basement, then settle his naked body just so that his successor had his head on his crotch
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #233 on: January 27, 2012, 03:58:42 PM »
Fenrir A: Algol works on Indalecio, just let him use divine wave at point blank range. B: If you don't want to go that  option, get the magic rasp, load up on elemental defense and try to outslug him. Barrier should hit him pretty easily, and you should have stolen bunny shoes by now. C: Play Front Mission 5.
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #234 on: January 28, 2012, 02:33:20 AM »
Dark Souls: I blame the music tourney for this terrible life decision I've made.

Started as a knight, dicked around in the undead burg for a couple hours. Eventually I wind up with a couple spare humanity, so I figure I'll see what happens when you use it. Oh hey, there are new marks on the ground now. "Summon phantom?" Sure, what the hell, let's see what that does. Dude shows up wearing imposing demon armor, takes off towards unexplored regions. "Oh hey, there was a scary-looking enemy down those stairs that I didn't want to approach before, probably be easier to deal with with two people." *guest one-shots the heavy knight* "Oh." Run up onto a bridge, music starts up so this must be a boss fight. There's a health meter and everything! "Well, there's a ladder here, so I'm clearly supposed to climb up and do plunging atta--" *guest one-shots the boss* "...Oh."

Yeah, I guess I shouldn't do that. As much as Dark Souls surely doesn't deserve mercy, it's kind of silly to have someone else basically play it for you.

Incidentally, I assume Solaire is the "Sunbro" of legend?

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #235 on: January 28, 2012, 03:20:07 AM »
Yes he is.

You can try bosses without being human just to get the hang of it, then summon if you're having trouble.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #236 on: January 28, 2012, 04:08:49 AM »
Dark Souls: I blame the music tourney for this terrible life decision I've made.

You're welcome. :smug for no reason:

Incidentally, I assume Solaire is the "Sunbro" of legend?

He is the best.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #237 on: January 28, 2012, 06:15:43 PM »
SRWZ2: Finally started a replay now that Saisei-hen is on the horizon. It's really quick going thus far; stage 18 and counting. Had some trouble with the SR point on stage 15 (nighttime battle at the start of the Geass/Wing/00/Getter/etc route), but that was my own fault for using underleveled units in hopes of building kill counts. Finally got Zero's ace bonus, expanding the AoE for his tactics bonuses from "big" to "WTF", so that should help matters going forward.
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #238 on: January 28, 2012, 07:45:38 PM »
Been playing through three games regularly.

Skyrim - What main story? I ditched that as soon as I could. I aligned myself with the thief stone and headed to Riften to partake in some of the games more polite-yet-underhanded groups: The Thieves Guild. I was coasting through those quest until thery gave me that ultimate key and told me to return it to some shrine...

Screw that. I am now a master thief, but my pickpocketing skill could use some loving. I have since ditched that quest line as well and have been wandering aimlessly looking for more undiscovered areas. Oh, and I got this boss ass sword that freezes bitches when I hack them.

Dragon Quest 6 - Got this gem for Christmas and I am enjoying it more then recent DQ handhelds I think. I enjoyed the class system from 7 switch I assume got it from this game, so yeah it's fun. I'm in or around the last area of the game, but I still don't have the hero class. I might grind until I unlock that. Lizzie is awesome.

Disgaea 3 - Beaten! The main game was easy which was my fault. I grinded too much in the item world and that's all you need to know. The bonus dungeons bumped the levels up considerably, so that's my next challenge. Mister Bigster went down without much of a fight, but Salvatore's levels are almost as much as Mao's and Almaz's. I need to get the other MCs levels on par. Currently those two are in the 290s while everyone else is 160 or lower.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #239 on: January 28, 2012, 08:15:32 PM »
Enchanted Arms- Finished.

Hoookay. Kinda of two minds of this game. It's true that it's aggressively average, but only because it averages out to it. There are some good points, there are bad points.

The plot is basically ripped off the Naruto/Sasuke plot and molds itself around it. It's kinda sad in a way, but actually does it better in some respects. The cast really hounds the main character about his decision to save the Sasuke-equivilent, and to his character's credit he suffers massive swings of legitimate self-doubt about his decision. His convictions, of course, win out in a believable (if cliche) way, whereas Naruto... kinda skims the surface of both of those and never really focuses on anything. Some of the character arcs are boring and predictable though. You actually sort of feel bad for Infinity at the end, and the game actually acknowledges that! It was a surprising touch.

Also has an enjoyable epilogue! You go, Raigar.

The whole cast has an odd common sense about them, which is endearing. They work well together as a group... Mostly well on their own, except for Yuki, who can die in a fire.

Atsuma has the above plot stuff going for him. It's nice to see a main get called out on how stupid he is on a consistant basis, and it doesn't always work out for him! (Only most of the time). Otherwise though... meh. He works for what he is, but not really good otherwise.

Karin's characterization, again, is so inconsistant she's almost human. While generally sticking to her spunky, tsundere princess type, she runs a gamut of emotions and responses in the right situations that really could be mistaken for actual character if looked at it the wrong way, but she really does grow on you.

Raigar: Bro. Total bro. Probably the best of the lot. Has the usual duty/personal life issues of his ilk, but it's done well in his case. Certain aspects aren't exactly explained (like how exactly he got engaged to Sayaka), but thats okay. Enough is generally stated that you can draw your own conclusions. Also the luckiest guy in the world in that he's apparantly been surrounded by beautiful women his whole life. Serves a cute princess, learned under a hot master, engaged to a hot swordgirl. Enough to make you want him dead, but he's such a bro you're okay with it.

Yuki: So bad. So bad. Her intro was pretty cool, but she turns out to be so one-note and boring that you just wish any of the logical NPC candidates (looking at you, Sayaka) could have joined the party to replace her. At least good at random slaying.

Gameplay was good. Gets a bit rote after a while, but it's never frustrating or cumbersome (battles have a handy fastforward button). There's maybe one good boss battle in the game (Sayaka) and the side-bosses I fought (the God Orbs, the Elemental Beasts) didn't put up much of a fight when I got to them. It does good things but doesn't quite use what it does to it's fullest potential, which is sad, but it's still enjoyable.

But... it's... somehow a game that could have benefitted from more partysplit. You get a Pokemon game's worth of golems to play around with, but after the party jumps to 4 human members about a third into the game, there's really only two or three points where you need to fill out your party with them since humans are LIGHTYEARS ahead of golems. I used maybe 3 of the... 3-4 dozen I had in my inventory at the end of the game.

All in all, yeah, it averages out to meh, but there's enough there to get actual opinions and feelings about. Which is all I can ask for, really. Better than, say, AI2 where it's just a blur of meh and grey and whogivesashit. Not sure how to classify it. 5/10 for now, maybe 6/10 later on, or I'll kick other shit out of 5/10. We'll see.

Probably Growlanser 2 next after I finish Heavy Rain.
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #240 on: January 29, 2012, 03:57:20 AM »
Dark Souls: Bell gargoyle down. I feel good about this taking only four tries considering it was the first real boss I've fought. I kind of feel like I'm cheating using the drake sword, but fuck it, it's Dark Souls, it does not deserve mercy.

Worst moment so far: losing nine humanity trying to kill that horrible thing in the blacksmith's basement (I was two steps from retrieval when he killed me the second time). Augh.

Also, I find ranged weapons kinda terrible to deal with in this game. I can never fucking tell where the crossbow bolts are going to go, what with it being dependent on where you PC's facing and that not always being crystal clear depending on the camera angle and also the PC tends to block your sight of exactly where the bolt is traveling and augh. There's not even a rudimentary aiming system, is there?

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #241 on: January 29, 2012, 04:34:15 AM »
Dark Souls: Bell gargoyle down. I feel good about this taking only four tries considering it was the first real boss I've fought. I kind of feel like I'm cheating using the drake sword, but fuck it, it's Dark Souls, it does not deserve mercy.

Worst moment so far: losing nine humanity trying to kill that horrible thing in the blacksmith's basement (I was two steps from retrieval when he killed me the second time). Augh.

Also, I find ranged weapons kinda terrible to deal with in this game. I can never fucking tell where the crossbow bolts are going to go, what with it being dependent on where you PC's facing and that not always being crystal clear depending on the camera angle and also the PC tends to block your sight of exactly where the bolt is traveling and augh. There's not even a rudimentary aiming system, is there?

Regular bows get aiming but crossbows don't.

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« Reply #242 on: January 29, 2012, 08:30:39 AM »
Masoukishin 2 ROE- Finally, all 3 routes completed. Due to my sickness in the past week, it took me a while to get this all done. Now should I work on unlocking the omake or move on to something else?

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #243 on: January 29, 2012, 08:35:12 AM »
Regular bows get aiming but crossbows don't.

Ah well. Of course, it probably also would've helped if I'd, y'know, remembered R3 locks onto targets within a certain range. It definitely would've been good to remember before I went to the trouble of killing basement demon in melee. Ah well.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #244 on: January 29, 2012, 09:51:33 AM »
Dark Souls: Bell gargoyle down. I feel good about this taking only four tries considering it was the first real boss I've fought. I kind of feel like I'm cheating using the drake sword, but fuck it, it's Dark Souls, it does not deserve mercy.

Worst moment so far: losing nine humanity trying to kill that horrible thing in the blacksmith's basement (I was two steps from retrieval when he killed me the second time). Augh.

Also, I find ranged weapons kinda terrible to deal with in this game. I can never fucking tell where the crossbow bolts are going to go, what with it being dependent on where you PC's facing and that not always being crystal clear depending on the camera angle and also the PC tends to block your sight of exactly where the bolt is traveling and augh. There's not even a rudimentary aiming system, is there?

Regular bows get aiming but crossbows don't.

That seems... the exact opposite of how it should go, if you were to pick only one of the two.

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« Reply #245 on: January 29, 2012, 02:03:01 PM »
Z2: I'm retarded. The way I was tackling stage 20 wasn't working at all, so I figured I'd go back to the beginning....only to discover I hadn't hardsaved since the end of 17. D'oh!

Orcs Must Die: Five-skulled Lunch Break in Nightmare. Wasn't too bad, really; there's nowhere to put a mace, true, but narrow entryways are perfect for Brimstone and Grinders, and a well-placed thunderstorm thins out the orcs well enough for paladins to deal with.
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #246 on: January 30, 2012, 01:36:50 AM »
Dark Souls: Lower Undead Burg -> The Depths. Capra demon was horrifying and must've taken me something like a dozen tries. Most of these ended without me even reaching the stairs. Jesus what a clusterfuck of a fight. So after that ordeal I guess I can't complain too much about Gaping Dragon being a joke of a boss. Damned if that isn't one of the freakiest boss designs I've ever seen, though.

Blighttown looms, resplendent with all the horror of a world without guardrails.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #247 on: January 30, 2012, 02:07:55 AM »
Dark Souls: Lower Undead Burg -> The Depths. Capra demon was horrifying and must've taken me something like a dozen tries. Most of these ended without me even reaching the stairs. Jesus what a clusterfuck of a fight.

Hahahahaha.

Blighttown looms, resplendent with all the horror of a world without guardrails.

The best part is the platforms that are so small your model's feet aren't actually on them.

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« Reply #248 on: January 30, 2012, 04:00:07 PM »
Guide to Capra Demon

Are you alive two seconds after entering room?
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« Reply #249 on: January 30, 2012, 09:01:54 PM »
Pretty much.