What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition

[Sierra]

Maybe I will go to other places then. 4 Kings seem kind of like jerks.

They are. I also ran a melee tank first time through and my solution was: fully-kindled bonfire, full Havel's set, Havel's ring, cast Iron Flesh (cheap pyromancy buff) once in melee range, mash attack until everything is dead, heal when necessary. Worked reasonably well. Mobility doesn't matter a heckuva lot with a build like that, so lacking Havel's ring shouldn't be a deal breaker. As long as you're beefy enough to not get staggered, you can easily heal whenever you need to. Really, the point is just to kill the individual kings fast, whatever the cost.

Adding fire to weapon should help a lot. If you have to block anything, Crest Shield is probably the best bet since their attacks are part magic. There's also a summonable NPC just outside the boss room (supposedly you can only summon her if you also brought her to Moonlight Butterfly, but I can't verify this). Hang a right before the bridge and poke around near the big stone column. She is useless for offense and sometimes gets stuck killing ghosts outside the fog door, but anything that means the kings are swinging at someone else can only help you.

There's a lot of options. Just have to make sure you never have more than one on you at a time, or you're right fucked. Also hopefully you're taking the shortcut to the boss room (after the first two ghosts in New Londo, skip the stairs and jump down to the right of them, should land in the lower area). Skips most of the random combat on the way there.

[AndrewRogue]

I did notice that the others show up if you take too much time. Kind of ruined any shot I had. haven't checked for the shortcut yet. Pretty much lost to them, then went and got dinner.

Speaking of, current stat build is something like End: 38, Str: 40, Dex: 18, and some odd remaining points into Vit because fuck it I am tired of dying when I get hit.

[Sierra]

You might as well keep pumping VIT. HP is more important than defense and most stats have diminishing returns after 40. 40 END is where your stamina maxes out, so that's a good thing to aim for. And yeah, they're on a timer. #2 shows up reasonably quick, but there's a large gap between #2 and #3 (I have played the game so goddamn much that I basically know where in the music they appear). Also, you can actually still damage the boss bar while they fade out. So keep swinging during the death animations!

[Anthony Edward Stark]

<SquareEnix> I wonder why the Americans don't like our games/business practices? It is a MYSTARY.

Basically the same reason we don't like the Star Wars prequels.  A bunch of extraneous shit jammed in there for no reason to grab extra cash + a lack of vision they're trying to hide with references to shit we enjoyed in the past and a lot of CGI.  And then when a bunch of negative feedback comes in, the person in charge attacks the audience's way of thinking for not liking it ("Star Wars is a movie for kids!" or "They approached the game with a western mindset where you have freedom.")   Also "HOPE YOUR NAME IS HOPE YOU GIVE US HOPE" and "MOMS ARE TOUGH" is up there with "I DON'T LIKE SAND" so there's another similarity.

[Fudozukushi]

Maybe I will go to other places then. 4 Kings seem kind of like jerks.

They're the second-last boss trophy for a reason.  Or fourth if you count the super-optionals I guess.

[AndrewRogue]

I need to be cursed to damage them, right? It was unclear so I threw on a Transient Curse quickly.

[Captain K.]

I don't believe so, no.

[Sierra]

Nah. Transient curse is only necessary for killing the New Londo ghosts.

[Fenrir]

Keep the four kings for the end yeah.
They can be beaten early if you know them well, but yes, they're jerks. Second hardest boss in the game for me.



Dragon Age 2: Still pressed on nightmare anyway because I just can't resist. Learnt to use and abuse the PC movement options. Encounter enemy -> Everybody backtracks to the last room -> Enemy can't summon other enemies out of nowhere there
Dragon Age 2 is brilliant.

Team is:
Yattaf: Double dagger rogue at first. Then I respecced that trash and gave her a bow.
Varric: User of some bow too.
Anders: Healer with some support magic.
Aveline: Tankiest tank in the world.

Aveline tanks while Yattaf shoots. I often control Varren and Anders to just make them flee, because both of them love nothing more than to run straight into enemy groups, even though their AI are actually set to "Don't run straight into enemy groups you morons".

Gambits are glitched or work strangely. I have Anders 1) Uses Heal if an ally has under 50% HP, 2) use Group Heal if an ally has under 50% HP.
The idea is that he's supposed to use Group Heal during the Heal cooldown time. But he never does it anway and I have to cast it manually.

I'm stuck against Ancient Rock Wraith. WTF Bioware? I don't even know what to say.
Edit: Ok I think I have a good strategy. Have Yattaf and Varric die right away. Control Anders while Aveline tank. Run away a lot, and do hilariously pathetic damage at a distance. Heal Aveline often, rely on MP regen for infinite healing.  When the boss summons monsters, drink a lyrium potion, resurrect everybody with Anders, summon a lure and a dog with Yattaf, switch back to Anders and try to survive.
This went well this time, until Aveline glitched and just stayed in one place, not doing anything. I tried controlling her to make her stab the boss. In those 5 seconds or so, AI Anders ran up to the boss and took a critical hit to the face. 15 minutes wasted. GG Bioware.

[DjinnAndTonic]

<SquareEnix> I wonder why the Americans don't like our games/business practices? It is a MYSTARY.

Basically the same reason we don't like the Star Wars prequels.  A bunch of extraneous shit jammed in there for no reason to grab extra cash + a lack of vision they're trying to hide with references to shit we enjoyed in the past and a lot of CGI.  And then when a bunch of negative feedback comes in, the person in charge attacks the audience's way of thinking for not liking it ("Star Wars is a movie for kids!" or "They approached the game with a western mindset where you have freedom.")   Also "HOPE YOUR NAME IS HOPE YOU GIVE US HOPE" and "MOMS ARE TOUGH" is up there with "I DON'T LIKE SAND" so there's another similarity.

I feel dirty when I agree with Rob. Stop it.

[Anthony Edward Stark]

Don't worry, as long as you don't like Deus Ex I still have the fundamental lack of respect for you I give NEB and Meep.

[Grefter]

Ancient Rock Wraith is Bioware putting an WoW style raid boss into a game.  it is just like end boss of slabs without the cc and some adds bro.

Sadly they don't actually follow up on it and hard mode versions of it are kind of terrible (especially as a Warrior, regen Stamina on kills.  Get nothing to kill!).

You talking about it actually got me going on a replay I had going that was in Chapter 2.  Remembered everything I love about the game and everything I dislike.  Stuff you complain about is all spot on for the things I hate.  All the ugh there.

Then there was Varric in everything and Aveline's character quest where she says "Its a nice night for an evening" while trying to get her mack on and I love her for it.  10/10 would use Aveline with a Warrior main on easy again.

[DjinnAndTonic]

Don't worry, as long as you don't like Deus Ex I still have the fundamental lack of respect for you I give NEB and Meep.

Never played it, so I don't know... But if that's all it takes to make the world feel normal again, I'll be sure to disdain it out of principle.

[Luther Lansfeld]

Endless Frontier - Fought a tiny child who rides a broom who came very close to game overing me. This game is really weird. I suppose I should take it more seriously than FF8.

[Grefter]

Don't worry, as long as you don't like Deus Ex I still have the fundamental lack of respect for you I give NEB and Meep.

Never played it, so I don't know... But if that's all it takes to make the world feel normal again, I'll be sure to disdain it out of principle.

It is a slow burning FPS with amazingly bad VA in foreign places.  Like bad 90s anime bad.  Also there is no anime tropes.  Plus cyberpunk conspiracy theories.  You would hate it.

[Fudozukushi]

Dark Souls: I uhhhh, kinda got distracted doing other things and didn't fight the Four Kings.  Also my inventory was getting so cluttered I said "SCREW IT" and just went with Frampt.  If I wanna low-level invade I'll go Darkmoon.

78. Crow demon headpeck special.
79. Crow demon headpeck special the second.
80. Chaos Eater acid spit.
81. The Super-Titanite Demon suddenly has homing lightning.
82. Super-Titanite Demon feels that being hit in the chest by two Great Fireballs isn't a damageable thing.  70k souls lost to the ether.  And yet it just doesn't matter anymore.
83. Bed of Chaos.
84. Bed of Chaos.
85. Bat-wing demon kills me after I do the drop after getting the Dragonslayer Greatbow.

General Notes
-Darkmoon, Gravelord and Chaos items gained.
-Thus that means with Bed of Chaos down Pyromancy trophy get.
-Almost no summons for Taurus Demon, so no Greater Lightning Spear yet.
-People need to stop trying to parry Haval.
-You can actually fall into Chaos-Eaters mouths.
-I almost want to let Siegmeyer try and handle all four on his own at one point.
-If the Lightning Spear miracle hits water it explodes and does AoE damage.

Current Goals
-Putz around.
-Farm Chaos eaters for Red Chunks maybe.
-Farm Royal Sentinels for Chunks maybe.
-Do Duke's Archives.

[Anthony Edward Stark]

Varric and Aveline were people I remember liking. Too bad about the rest of the cast.

One of the things I did like about the game (other than 2h warrior's awesome cleaving arcs) was the agency they gave your party members. They didn't all sit in one place; they moved around the city, and at certain times you'd see them doing shit together. It really makes them feel more realized as characters, which the game really needs. BW rolled with that same thing in ME3 and it gave us some of my favorite scenes.

[Clear Tranquil]

I picked up the rest of my stuff from the old place so I have my consoles and a tv back~

Star Ocean 3- Wow am I rusty at this. Ethereal Queen kept confusing/paralysing/freezing/petrifying me out. I forgot she even had paralyse. Heh. I need to get my act together before I get back to my NE/IE - NIC/NAAABA/NSSA/RC/MFO + AM/LIU or MO/NR file >___>

[DjinnAndTonic]

Don't worry, as long as you don't like Deus Ex I still have the fundamental lack of respect for you I give NEB and Meep.

Never played it, so I don't know... But if that's all it takes to make the world feel normal again, I'll be sure to disdain it out of principle.

It is a slow burning FPS with amazingly bad VA in foreign places.  Like bad 90s anime bad.  Also there is no anime tropes.  Plus cyberpunk conspiracy theories.  You would hate it.

I like cyberpunk, but the rest of it does sound pretty anti-Djinn. Also, due to the prevalence of anime tropes in all media, I somehow doubt there's actually -zero- anime tropes.

[superaielman]

Don't worry, as long as you don't like Deus Ex I still have the fundamental lack of respect for you I give NEB and Meep.

Your shameless fangirling for Elfboy really knows no bounds.

Also, DE1, the one that was released in like 2000? It was a very good game, minus the ending.

EDIT: Just wanted to say I'm 100% behind most FF13 related plot bashing, even if I did like 13-2's ending a whole lot.

[Shale]

Orcs Must Die! 2: Started, finished three stages in single-player before work. Killing Orcs: still fun. The early stages definitely have more to them in the way of layout and hazards than the original, but they're still much easier because you get to spend skulls on unlocking new gear this time around, which means I had my arrow wall/lightning ring combo going in stage 2. Bwahahaha. Haven't tried out the Sorceress or Endless mode yet.

The game chugs a bit on my system, which is weird because it seems to be using the exact same engine as the original, which runs perfectly. Ah well.

Penny Arcade: At the final boss of episode 1. I like how you can sidequest for +10 attack and then get a forced upgrade to your weapons that gives everybody +500 (or so) attack.

[Anthony Edward Stark]

Don't worry, as long as you don't like Deus Ex I still have the fundamental lack of respect for you I give NEB and Meep.

Never played it, so I don't know... But if that's all it takes to make the world feel normal again, I'll be sure to disdain it out of principle.

It is a slow burning FPS with amazingly bad VA in foreign places.  Like bad 90s anime bad.  Also there is no anime tropes.  Plus cyberpunk conspiracy theories.  You would hate it.

I like cyberpunk, but the rest of it does sound pretty anti-Djinn. Also, due to the prevalence of anime tropes in all media, I somehow doubt there's actually -zero- anime tropes.

Well, it's actually well-written with a plot that changes based on the player's decision and like zero made-up words for stupid shit so it's like the most anti-anime thing ever.

[AndrewRogue]

Varric and Aveline were people I remember liking. Too bad about the rest of the cast.

One of the things I did like about the game (other than 2h warrior's awesome cleaving arcs) was the agency they gave your party members. They didn't all sit in one place; they moved around the city, and at certain times you'd see them doing shit together. It really makes them feel more realized as characters, which the game really needs. BW rolled with that same thing in ME3 and it gave us some of my favorite scenes.

This. It really is kind of silly. Bioware keeps doing specific things better and better. It just keeps screwing up other things worse and worse. <_<

[Anthony Edward Stark]

Varric and Aveline were people I remember liking. Too bad about the rest of the cast.

One of the things I did like about the game (other than 2h warrior's awesome cleaving arcs) was the agency they gave your party members. They didn't all sit in one place; they moved around the city, and at certain times you'd see them doing shit together. It really makes them feel more realized as characters, which the game really needs. BW rolled with that same thing in ME3 and it gave us some of my favorite scenes.

This. It really is kind of silly. Bioware keeps doing specific things better and better. It just keeps screwing up other things worse and worse. <_<

Almost all of ME3's problems can be traced back to the lead writer sequestering himself to write the ending because he was so worried about leaks and so he didn't get any feedback at all, hence how it's full of crazy implied shit like "all turians die of starvation because of you."  It's very frustrating because he basically did the beginning and end by himself and they're the only parts that I don't like.

[AndrewRogue]

Was that actually confirmed somewhere? I heard rumors about it, but wasn't sure. It'd explain a lot... and make me reconsider letting that guy lead a project again.