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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2526 on: December 18, 2012, 02:39:21 PM »
I liked Red Faction: Guerilla because it was like GTA: Total Recall, and if you don't like total recall you have worse taste than Djinn and should probably sign over power of attorney to someone.  When I picked up the Humble Bundle that had the sequel in it, I was excited.  Instead of tooling around on the surface and smashing shit and occasionally doing missions but usually just mounting hit-and-run attacks on army bases and such, they made it some kind of Gears of War railroaded shooter?  No wonder this game didn't sell.

Yeah, they either didn't have the budget to make it an open world game or decided to pay kinda-sorta-homage to the earlier installments of the series (except without any thematic homage, so it's almost certainly a budget thing). But the previous game in the series was the most fun open world game ever made. With decision-making like that, it's hardly surprising that THQ is in the crapper. Even though the actual reason they're in the crapper seems to be that they thought a peripheral-requiring family game for the Wii would sell like gangbusters on the 360 and PS3, with all those family gamers who love to buy peripherals but were like, "The Wii? Sod that noise, I'm'a get me a platform famous for Grimdark McDarkington spess mahrine simulators that costs twice as much."

... Actually that's the same kind of decision making.

Anyway, picked up this unfortunate game in the Humble THQ Bundle as well, but haven't done more than poke at it. The people I share my Steam account with have been enjoying it, so it's not a waste of $5.

Planetside 2

It's free, TotalBiscuit did several pieces on it, and someone I knew played it, so what the hell. Sure, it's a modern FPS, but it's a PC exclusive in a SF setting, so maybe it won't suck.

Two weapons, a progression system and no pickups later...

... it actually doesn't suck!

I mean, I have no idea if the FPS mechanics are any good, because I'm not a good enough FPS player to tell that sort of thing. It's fun to charge a facility with a hundred other dudes and a couple dozen vehicles, at least. I've never seen another game deliver quite that experience, so it's novel if nothing else. I doubt I'll play it much because it's hard on my wrist, not my favored genre and not my favored implementation of the genre it is, but the feeling of being in an actual space army is unmatched.

Civilization 4: Subtitles Like Vriska

A couple of recent games show a serious uptick in the latest build. In one, I got stranded on an island and actually lost. In another, I was challenged all the way to late medieval before pulling ahead, and even in the industrial era managed to overbuild and get a Revolution large enough to be interesting to put down.

I also realized courtesy of the C2C forum that I was probably crippling the AI's planning by turning on the Mastery victory, so I'm going to give it a shot with that off and see if they can make actual plans instead of just stumbling along trying and usually failing to get the best score. The main thing I'd like to see them do, since they can kinda-sorta do it in the base game and do it very well with the K-Mod AI tweaks, is conquer each other instead of building up a vastly superior military force and then dicking around with it.

(I know I should turn Great Commanders off, because they're a huge advantage for the human player, but they're so fun. ;_;)
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2527 on: December 18, 2012, 04:56:37 PM »
Torchlight II: Oh come on now. First act near the town that was the setting of the first game but is now destroyed by one of the heroes from that game, second act in the desert, third act in the jungle? You're lucky your game is fun, Runic.

(Also, lifting from D2 is one thing, because these guys made D2. Stealing the Siegebreaker Beast/Siege Guardian from D3? Uncool.)

Infamous: Lightning Storm is shiiiiiiiiiny. And a total EXP farm when you whore it out for multiple-kill bonuses. Story seems to be going into some very odd territory, as Kessler is giving every indication of being Cole from the future, which makes it entirely possible his girlfriend is Evil Trish, which is not at all where I expected this game to go.
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2528 on: December 18, 2012, 07:52:13 PM »
If I had the slightest iota of respect for you, it would be gone after you insulted the Macho Man.  You have less shame than was granted to animals.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2529 on: December 18, 2012, 10:38:19 PM »
Pokemon Blue Terrible playthrough:
Moving right along in the game. It's still really easy. The entire team has been assembled: Onix, Beedrill, Wigglytuff, Farfetched, Hypno, and Seaking. If Bug actually had any worthwhile attacks, it would be a really good attacking type because of all the pokemon with Poison as a secondary type. As a result Beedrill has been doing decently with Twineedle. Onix is also fairly good despite his awful attack stat and he does quite well for himself with Dig and Rockslide. Right now I just beat Koga. Lt Surge got stopped easily be Onix, almost all of Erika's team is 4x weak to bug, and Koga was taken down easily by Onix and Hypno. The team has a lot of trouble with Psychic types because everyone except for Hypno and Seaking has terrible Special so Sabrina's gym could be more interesting. 

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2530 on: December 18, 2012, 11:39:54 PM »
Tales of Graces F- This is the game that never ends~ Maybe the Zhonecage on Chaos isn't the best place to try mastering new mains >_> Tried out all of the characters for a while to help keep the game fresh while getting the rest of the mastery artes titles that I needed and decided Sophie (hands up if you're surprised) was going to be my secondary main after Cheria. Started off Zhonecage with Cheria, team Cheria/Sophie/Hubert/Richard (cosplayed by Asbel), first floor wasn't too bad and eventually managed to get the boss pretty much perma stunned most of the time. Second floor I switched to Sophie and oh god arrows of doom Vortex spamming fiends especially on Hubert's CDEF and Ffffffff Cedric 2.0 and random flames bursting from the floor while I'm trying to do the sidesteps <_< Near a half dozen resets so far~

One thing I'm noticing vs the boss is that I seem to be having a harder time building up CCs with Sophie (haven't been able to get it to max vs the boss so far) than I did/do with Cheria whom I seem able to build up to max CC quite easily with.   
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2531 on: December 19, 2012, 12:22:07 AM »
Devil Survivor 2:
So at this point I'm pretty much just chilling with Joe 100% of the time, and avoiding eye contact with everybody else.

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Airi's joined my team. Small breasts. D size?

There was a "superboss that should be avoided" named something like Boris, in one battle. He's dead and I got Ziodyne from him. This goes very well with the very balanced Frans Doom (Frans Doom is the main character): 4 Strength, 5 Vitality, 4 Agility, 25 Magic.
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2532 on: December 19, 2012, 01:21:13 AM »
I'd recommend looking into some vit for him here and there so that when the anti-physical skills come along you'll be able to slap those on.

Airi honestly is probably the character that irritates me the most.  It's like Colette in ToS, I want to like her there's some good material to work with but her main personality trait is taken to such amazing extremes it's just not tolerable anymore.
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2533 on: December 19, 2012, 01:24:10 AM »
Yeah I do intend to get some vit on Frans Doom at one point. Probably only after 40 mag. Some demons can white knight Frans Doom until then.
I sure hope I don't run into Baldur v2
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2534 on: December 19, 2012, 02:21:48 AM »
Frans Doom? No Yattaf? =(
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2535 on: December 19, 2012, 02:25:18 AM »
Yattaf is a female name, duh.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2536 on: December 19, 2012, 02:33:58 AM »
Neither Hypno nor Wigglytuff strike me as terrible at all (if I ranked all the RBY pokemon by in-game I kinda expect they'd end up in top half, though not certain on Wiggly). Beedrill at least ends up bad. Also, surprised you're making an RBY terrible team without an entry from the amazing fighting type. You should totally use Hitmonchan or Machoke or something.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2537 on: December 19, 2012, 02:37:03 AM »
Is Hypno even worse in-game than Mr. Mime by a considerable margin?
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2538 on: December 19, 2012, 03:01:27 AM »
I always felt Hypno was much better than Mr. Mime in gen 1; its special was significantly higher (115 vs 100), it had significantly better attack for damaging other Psychics (73 vs 45), it could sleep stuff, and it got Psychic by level so you didn't have to burn the OPG TM on it.

Mr. Mime really only has higher speed and Thunderbolt compatability in its favor, and there's so much competition for T-bolt I wouldn't credit it much for that.

Also Lickitung demands to be any terrible gen 1 team. 310 BST total! 55 attack! 60 special!!!
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2539 on: December 19, 2012, 03:04:09 AM »
Quite a bit better. Base special is 15 points higher, learns Psychic without a TM (at a reasonable level, learns Hypnosis, even has an okay physical (Headbutt off just below average attack) for killing other high-special psychics.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2540 on: December 19, 2012, 03:12:50 AM »
Let the man play shitty pokemon as much as he wants.  I am disappointed in the lack of Ekans as well you guys, but let him do his thing.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2541 on: December 19, 2012, 03:16:59 AM »
But but the DL is nothing if not a group of people who will overanalyse everything to do with RPGs, including your silly theme playthroughs!

Also, hinode, I'm impressed you can make Lickitung sound so bad without even mentioning his game-worst speed.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2542 on: December 19, 2012, 03:21:24 AM »
I actually used Hypno a lot in-game back in RBY; it was a sleeper who could actually take hits from the legendary birds (unlike the grass and bug types) decently and didn't require a trade evo (unlike Gengar). It was also about the only sleeper who wouldn't die horribly against Mewtwo on the rare attempts I tried to catch it without a Master Ball.

115 special on a Psychic typing went a long way back then.

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2543 on: December 19, 2012, 03:25:56 AM »
6x Ditto team

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2544 on: December 19, 2012, 03:48:12 AM »
Wigglytuff was largely chosen because I wanted a second early member and it seemed like the worst of the bunch (Pidgey might have been as bad, but that would cause overlap with DUX). Part of the makeup was picking pokemon that could be picked up throughout the game so I didn't end up with a level 50 Beedrill steamrolling everything. Drowzee was actually the worst member of the team around the Vermillion/S.S. Anne/Rock Tunnel stage of the game and he doesn't feel particularly stronger than any of the other members of the team currently. However, he just learned Psychic so that could change. I think Hypno vs Mr. Mime is a bit of a wash since Mr. Mime gets Thunderbolt and has the better speed. I don't believe Ekans is catchable in Blue and even then he'd still have Glare/Wrap as a strategy which strikes me as tedious more than bad. I figured the fighting types could generally get by with their base stats and by using normal attacks if nothing else. Lickitung probably should have been on the team, but I forgot that he existed. 
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« Reply #2545 on: December 19, 2012, 05:11:26 AM »
I always felt Hypno was much better than Mr. Mime in gen 1; its special was significantly higher (115 vs 100), it had significantly better attack for damaging other Psychics (73 vs 45), it could sleep stuff, and it got Psychic by level so you didn't have to burn the OPG TM on it.

Mr. Mime really only has higher speed and Thunderbolt compatability in its favor, and there's so much competition for T-bolt I wouldn't credit it much for that.

Also Lickitung demands to be any terrible gen 1 team. 310 BST total! 55 attack! 60 special!!!

Okay, so my kneejerk was correct. Also what the christ Lickitung, it's like it murdered the Gamefreaks family tree Flareon couldn't off in gen 1.
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2546 on: December 19, 2012, 05:40:33 AM »
FF8 - RICHARD challenge completed. Wipe count continued:

Wipe 23: Griever draws Death from my Magic list and proceeds to cast it on me. Oops.
Wipe 24: UltiGriever2 double act physicals kill me dead before I can do anything after peerless wears off
Wipe 25: Shockwave Pulsar before I am able to GF Shield with Cerberus
Wipe 26: I finally make it frue Ultimecia, who blows away my Str-J as her second or third move. I GF Shield with Cerberus once against Apocalypse, but am unable to do so the second time it happens. Even Shelled, the attack deals more damage than I have HP
Wipe 27: Make it again to frue Ulti, this time with no offense coming in. Ulti doubles with Hell's Judgement into a base physical for the kill
Wipe 28: Make it to frue Ulti again with Cerberus, but this time, Ulti casts Holy after a couple of Hell's Judgement (where I decide to heal) and kills me with it.
Wipe 29: I get to frue Ulti and use my Hero ASAP. It wears off much faster than I imagine and I die again from a base physical.

The successful run featured a bit of strategizing between myself, CK and Vice President RICHARD. Per RICHARD's advice, I set the speed of the battle back to slowest instead of fastest. Next, I go back to using Brothers as a GF. I also load down Squall with a bunch of trash magic like Firaga, Scans and what not so that Ulti has more magic to random select and blow away instead of hitting more vital junctions. Due to the way the challenge is set up, each of the three main GFs all have some sort of weakness that can't be covered off. However, Brothers' was the easiest to mitigate this battle because Ultimecia rarely uses status and Griever only really does lethal status if you have it in your magic list. So, off I go and shuffle those out of the way onto someone who is already dead before coming into battle (this way they never appear as your allies are picked off). Brothers has an additional benefit in that he is the only GF that gives you enough breathing space to take a Shockwave Pulsar/Apocalypse even when HP-J is gone. With Defend and Shell up, you can effectively quarter magic damage, which is important to note. Lastly, I slap Holy onto Elem-Def because its the only spell that shows up across the entire chain. And with that off we go to...

SQUALL vs. ULTIMECIA
HEAVEN OR HELL
FINAL ROUND
LET'S ROCK

Ulti's first form dies to a 5 hit or more Renzo pretty easily. The important part here is setting up Haste, Shell and Aura and then killing off my allies so they don't get in the way of the challenge.

Griever's tough, and probably the hardest part here because the junction blowing starts and getting an unlucky draw can end an attempt right there. Same strategy applies as before, reapplying the positive status as necessary. Doom can be Elixir'd off, same with Meltdown. Pain can be Remedies. Again, without outright lethal status, Brothers' weakness is a bit easier to handle.

UltiGreiver1 rarely has junction blowing, but the magic power goes up and both Quake and Tornado deal around 2000 damage. She also has a double acting physical that can crit, so this can pile up damage quickly. No change in terms of the damage strategy, but staying relatively healed is always a priority (as the majority of my offense right now is from Aura).

UltiGreiver2...same as above, but has very little HP. She goes down pretty quick.

Frue Ultimecia appears and this time, I take the superior advice of user RICHARD instead of user Laggy and fully heal myself at all times (easily accomplished with X Potions or Elixirs). With Haste, I am able to occasionally get a double and use Renzokuken. I get lucky in that my second (or third) Renzo leads to a Lionheart, which kills. Then it's time for the dreaded SPEECH phase. I use the Hero here to effective gain ground. Ulti eventually draw Apocalypse and I do have to contend with it once. But with Shell and Spr-J (my HP-J was gone by this point), Ultimecia fails to kill me, and I heal myself, double and pretty much cruise to victory.

And that is the end of said challenge. Nevergiveup.jpeg.

GF Rankings:
Probably stuff you shouldn't be too surprised about but basically: Cerberus, Brothers and Carbuncle >>> everyone else. Only these three really have a self sustaining set of abilities, especially in the late game. Everyone else has some gaping problems as a standalone GF but some do get their moments. Rankings...

1. Brothers - Probably the best overall GF. HP, Strength and Spirit along with Defend makes them pretty competent. Defend scumming for example, becomes possible. You can also Defend against big damage (as mentioned above) that would otherwise be not survivable with the others. Having strength and HP means it's got good durability most of the time AND offense too. It's downside is that it's slow and status bait.
2. Carbuncle - Carbuncle is also pretty self sustaining. HP, Vitality and Magic. Doesn't look like much, but Carbuncle also has passive abilities that boost his effectiveness and one of them, is Auto-Reflect. He's also the first GF (other than Siren, but Siren) to get St-Def and will be the only one for a while that has offense (in Magic) too. His weakness towards the end is that his offense gradually gets worse and worse. And with someone constantly blowing at your magic stock, this becomes a bigger hassle then you might think.
3. Cerberus - Blitz cannon. I've had more wipes with Cerberus than with any other GF because he gives you this false sense of security. And then all of a sudden...RANDOM ATTACK THAT IS SOMEWHAT COMPETENT wipe. Both Cerberus and Carbuncle are AP sinks too, but good thing Cactuars are huntable almost right around the corner afterwards. His biggest problem towards the end is lack of durability whatsoever. But Speed and Auto Haste along with strength is just so good. At least he wipes the piss easy bosses without having it take too long.
4. Quezacolt - Honestly, Quezacolt is obsoleted by Carbuncle. But Card Mod is always good and gets you lots of good stuff early and late. He should also be decent in theory (has HP and Vit, also has Mag+ abilities for better offense) though.
5. Ifrit - Ifrit's the first guy with Strength, which is good in the opening stretches of the game. He's also needed for Lionheart because you can't get Pulse Ammo otherwise. And Lionheart became like a core of my strategy towards the end of Disc 3, so yeah sure.
6. Leviathan - He has Supt Mag RF, which is an important branch of magic containing Protect, Shell and most importantly? AURA. Auras were important late to prevent more wipes from wandering into fights at low HP.
7. Siren - Life Mag RF if nothing else. AND she can kill T-Rexaurs initially! So hey, that's something.
8. Diablos - Time Mag RF and St Mag RF are neat. Enc None too, although it takes way too long to get, but it's p.awesome once you do have it.
9. Tonberry - Tonberry had ONE purpose and one purpose only. He prevented me from needing to grind up to level 60 to encounter Adamantoise over level 30. Thanks to the Level up ability. If you think I am joking I am not. Literally dead serious here.
10t. Everyone else sans Doomtrain (so Shiva/Pandemona/Alexander/Bahamut/Eden/Cactuar) - These guys were all pretty much useless starting out. You either had more important things to invest in, or they got obsoleted pretty quickly, or they're just BAD standalone. Had no contributions whatsoever through the entire challenge).

NO RANK. Doomtrain - I was lazy and didn't bother getting 6 Malboro Tentacles. Doomtrain I imagine, probably falls inline with the rest of the people at 10t, but who knows. He might have had some auxiliary use that could propel him above Tonberry!
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2547 on: December 19, 2012, 05:48:57 AM »
He has the added bonus of being the most intriguing character in FF8. While everyone else exists only to be involved in some facet of Squall's stupid narrative, Doomtrain is free of any such entanglements. Instead we are free to ask things like "why can't I ride on the Doomtrain?" And "why does being hit with a train cause all these status effects?" And "when he talks does it sound like a steam whistle?"

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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2548 on: December 19, 2012, 05:52:02 AM »
Infamous: Called it! Well, not Sasha, but the more important part. Game over, good ending. All dead drops found, all side missions done, 309/350 blast shards. Hopefully 2nd OGs gets here tomorrow, but if not I'll probably start the second one.
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Re: What Games ya Playin' 2012 - Suplex a Train Edition
« Reply #2549 on: December 19, 2012, 12:47:30 PM »
Front Mission 3 - Okay instead of pissing me off this time it reduced me to laughter.  Beat up Lukav in his totallynotXenogears mech with a beam cannon.  HAHAHAHA YOU ARE THE FIRST TO HAVE TRIED ME THIS MUCH.  Then there is a cutscene of missiles being launched and I am thinking "Oh nice one.  Someone is finally going to call the fact that wars aren't fought nearly entirely on foot like this game so far has suggested even with mechs you can't beat an ICBM".

Oh how wrong I was.

Elisa says "Ohmigosh it is a cruise missile!" then Lukav says "Farewell ... Macho Man" and proceeds to run away on foot.  THIS IS THE BEST PLAN EVER.  Then in the explosions a tank inside some building drives away.

This is A) Not how you use cruise missiles B) should be massive overkill given that he fires off like 6 C) COMPLETELY FUCKING RIDICULOUS and D) Entirely ineffective as all it does is blow up a building and do no harm to the party.  I am also not convinced they were actual cruise missiles.

Then the dialogue after it makes even less sense than usual with Liu shouting about how Macho Man is going to get himself killed and he needs to work with Liu and I don't even know what the fuck was supposed to be happening to get this reaction.

Edit - I forgot to say that is the actual dialogue.  I know I swear a lot more than is necessary, but Ohmigosh is entirely inappropriate to someone launching 6 missiles at you.
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