Author Topic: I've got your Miscellaneous Links for ya, 2012! RIGHT HERE! (Read 36187 times)

Shale · « **Reply #100 on:** February 18, 2012, 01:15:43 PM »

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/02/17/soul-calibur-v-custom-characters/

Apparently SC5 went extra nuts with the character creation options.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #101 on:** February 18, 2012, 09:14:25 PM »

I hate everybody who has ever lived.

Also, only four seconds in that video make any sense. I'll leave it to you to figure out.

Grefter · « **Reply #102 on:** February 18, 2012, 11:36:52 PM »

The only thing that stuns me in that video is that I didn't know Ciato had a pair of stilleto heeled boots.

Edit - And that link is interesting so far met. So far I have heard them misinterpret pacifist runs as being non-violent. You can still be violent without actually killing things. Nice to see it getting media attention anyway.

Captain K. · « **Reply #103 on:** February 19, 2012, 01:54:22 AM »

I was going to make a comment about her looking like Ciato also, but Ciato is a much better dancer.

Cotigo · « **Reply #104 on:** February 19, 2012, 06:33:34 AM »

Freezin' cold and doesn't have shoes on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E77HpMMbDYc&feature=related

NotMiki · « **Reply #105 on:** February 20, 2012, 04:49:26 AM »

http://www.capturecreatures.com/

The most adorable take on pokemon ever.

metroid composite · « **Reply #106 on:** February 21, 2012, 01:05:44 AM »

I have no idea if this is any good but...

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/primerist/code-hero-a-game-that-teaches-you-to-make-games-he
Code hero; looks interesting.

Anthony Edward Stark · « **Reply #107 on:** February 21, 2012, 08:45:13 AM »

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/02/20/final-fantasy-xiii-2-x-mass-effect-collaboration-in-the-works/

Square finally gives in and admits you'd rather be playing Mass Effect than whatever they make these days; will let you pretend to be playing it instead.

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #108 on:** February 21, 2012, 10:48:17 AM »

Alternate interpretation: Square-Enix continues cluttering up their games with misplaced and shallow westernization rather than focusing on their own strengths as a developer.

Anthony Edward Stark · « **Reply #109 on:** February 21, 2012, 11:01:04 AM »

An interpretation that would be more valid if Square even seemed to know what their strengths were beyond making CGI videos.

Dark Holy Elf · « **Reply #110 on:** February 21, 2012, 04:07:08 PM »

They know what their strengths are: pissing you, personally, off. It's working so well since you can't go 24 hours without whining about the game on the internet.

AndrewRogue · « **Reply #111 on:** February 21, 2012, 05:33:09 PM »

More Mass Effect can only be a good thing.

Hunter Sopko · « **Reply #112 on:** February 21, 2012, 05:47:55 PM »

Quote from: AndrewRogue on February 21, 2012, 05:33:09 PM

More Mass Effect can only be a good thing.

Yo dawg. I herd u lik Mass Effect. So I put some Mass Effect in your FFXIII-2 so your... wait, what the FUCK?

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #113 on:** February 21, 2012, 05:59:08 PM »

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An interpretation that would be more valid if Square even seemed to know what their strengths were beyond making CGI videos.

A valid criticism, but I don't think they're going to figure it out by continuing what they're doing either.

Anthony Edward Stark · « **Reply #114 on:** February 21, 2012, 07:57:53 PM »

Quote from: Cmdr_King on February 21, 2012, 05:59:08 PM

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An interpretation that would be more valid if Square even seemed to know what their strengths were beyond making CGI videos.

A valid criticism, but I don't think they're going to figure it out by continuing what they're doing either.

They've figured out they should try to pander to foreign audiences if they want to grow their market share, they just don't know the right way to do that. They're just reminding people of other games they'd rather play.

You know who did know how to do that? The guys who made Nier. How are they not talking to them? They have an established working relationship with the people involved, even if the team is disbanded.

I dunnow, maybe we'll see some slight changes since Square was super-impressed with Skyrim, which surprises me since Japanese people and NEB hate not having their hands held.

Captain K. · « **Reply #115 on:** February 21, 2012, 08:42:17 PM »

Quote from: Dark Holy Elf on February 21, 2012, 04:07:08 PM

They know what their strengths are: pissing you, personally, off. It's working so well since you can't go 24 hours without whining about the game on the internet.

"Thank you, everyone, for attending the Square-Enix shareholders meeting. Let's begin by identifying our goals for the upcoming quarter."

*handraise* "Pissing Rob off?"

"Oh, that's a good one!" *writes it on blackboard*

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #116 on:** February 21, 2012, 08:44:36 PM »

Basically they've been cherry picking western styles and elements to include with no real idea of how to incorporate them into the stories, mechanics, and themes they're known for and want to continue, resulting in massive, violent clash that makes the games weaker and less enjoyable; completely missing the point of western styles, annoying those fans, while bogging down and neglecting eastern tradition, pissing off traditional fans.

Cavia knew their stuff there, which is hilarious since every design decision they made was made to better troll the stereotypical western mindset. This is probably why Nier reviewed badly, but has a growing cult fanbase because while they're a troll if you expect something stereotypical, Nier is anything but and they enhance, rather than thwart, the narrative and thematic coherence of the game.

eg Cavia HATES completionists, sidequests that do nothing but cost you money and waste your time, etc

AndrewRogue · « **Reply #117 on:** February 21, 2012, 09:15:38 PM »

Out of curiosity, what elements have they been cherry picking?

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #118 on:** February 21, 2012, 09:23:46 PM »

High levels of automation and simplified menus without actually reducing the complexity of the system, as well as an increasing love of nested sidequests and rare drop farming (which, while not strictly western, are a heavier focus in less linear games)

Grefter · « **Reply #119 on:** February 21, 2012, 09:55:38 PM »

Sooooo MMOs, Tales Sidequests and Korean MMOs?

Anthony Edward Stark · « **Reply #120 on:** February 21, 2012, 11:55:52 PM »

Rare drop farming surely predates the games they're aping. Pink tails in FF4, 1/128 items in EarthBound, Economizers in FF6... I have a hard time thinking of many Western single-player games that use it heavily. The ones that come to mind are WoW, Diablo and Borderlands, all of which are either exclusively multiplayer or heavily biased toward it.

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #121 on:** February 22, 2012, 12:38:05 AM »

It's always existed, but I think it's increasingly a major part of the games. I mean, used to be you farmed for a particular badass weapon, there were perhaps one or two. By contrast, in FFXIII you need to farm items just to get cash, or upgrade half your weapons. It is more of an MMO thing, but thanks to the pervasiveness of WoW I associate MMO tropes as western, perhaps unfairly.

Anthony Edward Stark · « **Reply #122 on:** February 22, 2012, 12:56:51 AM »

I can't think of a major western MMO that emphasizes component farming. WoW only really does it for the inevitable legendary item chains, of which there are not many. SWG used to do that, but SWG was atypical in so many ways. Diablo, I guess, with gems and runes. For the most part, though, it's all farming for ready-to-use item drops from a set number of encounters per week.

AndrewRogue · « **Reply #123 on:** February 22, 2012, 01:17:08 AM »

You need to stretch back to older MMOs, really. EQ was pretty fucking awful about it, if I recall right.

Grefter · « **Reply #124 on:** February 22, 2012, 01:33:42 AM »

EQ was all about grind yes, mostly due to some pretty terrible design (We charge subscription fee, if we make everything take forever they can justify it!).

The peak of grind definitely comes for the Asian market though. When they coopted the MMO genre they perfected it. Pay to win features with gambling with real money for the in game grind. Amazing.

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