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FEDL- The Beginning
« on: March 05, 2012, 12:57:50 AM »
Since I don't feel I have the data to run a 'ranked' tourney, and want to hold off on Futurama, we shall instead go with the essence of DLery, Fire Emblem.

This nom topic will be straightforward.  We'll have a standard sized bracket, and each poster may nom Two characters per division.  Because I'm not wholly confident there ARE 16 proper Godlikes from the series, you may nom less than two in that division.  Otherwise, please use all your nom slots.

Characters from Sword of Seals (6), Blazing Sword (7), Sacred Stones (8), Path of Raidance (9), Radiant Dawn (10), and Shadow Dragon (11) are all eligible.  Use your best judgement on ranks, and if you think someone is mistaken, feel free to point it out in the topic (I'm not necessarily going to remember every single character here).

Ideally, this topic will run for one week, but we'll see.  Might launch early if an abundance of noms happen.

Current Bracket (Please note that these will be randomized before the tourney starts and is for easy bookkeeping)

Fomortiis (8) vs Black Knight (9)
Nailah (10) vs Ashera (10)
Dragon (7) vs Cainaghis (10)
Athos (7) vs Dheginsea (10)

Tibarn (10) vs Naesala (10)
Zelgius (10) vs Fargus (7)
Godlike vs Godlike
Godlike vs Godlike

Hector (7) vs Idoun (6)
Lyon (8) vs Fir (6)
Ashnard (9) vs Lyn (7)
Catria (11) vs Ephraim (8)

Caeda (11) vs Nephenee (9)
Tanith (9) vs Roy (6)
Eirika (8) vs Elincia (10)
Tana (8) vs Rutger (6)

Jarod (10) vs Canas (7)
Oscar (9) vs Matthew (7)
Colm (8) vs Nergal (7)
Oswin (7) vs Pent (7)

Jill (9) vs Volke (9)
Marth (11) vs Lute (8)
Marcia (9) vs Micaiah (10)
Lilina (6) vs Neimi (8)

Volug (10) vs Innes (8)
Riev (8) vs Garcia (8)
Nino (7) vs Gilliam (8)
Lethe (9) vs Soren (9)

Agony (10) vs Pain (10)
Mordecai (9) vs Jagen (11)
Sanaki (10) vs Lucius (7)
Oliver (10) vs Rhys (9)
« Last Edit: March 11, 2012, 07:39:40 PM by Cmdr_King »
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2012, 01:09:13 AM »
Think you're going to need to open that up - I think FE4 has enough people to do it.


Anyway,

If FE4 is viable, put Julius in Godlike to replace Black Knight

Godlike: Fomortiis, Black Knight (FE9)
Heavy: Hector, Idoun
Middle: Jarod, Canas
Light: Agony, Pain
« Last Edit: March 05, 2012, 02:33:54 AM by OblivionKnight »
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2012, 01:24:33 AM »
No nomming characters who cannot attack.  OK, fix your Light noms.

And no, Staff counters do not count.  They need to be able to initiate the attack.
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2012, 02:25:00 AM »
You never specified that!  Those noms are legal based on your original post!
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2012, 02:29:57 AM »
I'd like to nom Wolf from Shadow Dragon, but not sure whether he's Godlike or Heavy.
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2012, 02:32:30 AM »
And that's why I have posted additional, clarified rules.

Neph: I'm not sure who that is!  I'd say go ahead and err on the side of Godlike and if people think otherwise we can fix it later.
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2012, 02:33:17 AM »
Abuse of the edit command for posts!
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2012, 02:42:03 AM »
Godlike: Naliah (FE10), Ashera (FE10)
Heavy: Lyon (FE8), Fir (FE6)
Middle: Oscar (FE9), Matthew (FE7)
Light: Volug (FE10), Innes (FE8)
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2012, 02:47:06 AM »
Godlike: Athos, Ashnard
Heavy: Catria, Hector
Middle: Nino, Pent
Light: Gilliam, Oswin

EDIT: I guess Serenes doesn't have notes on HM Ashnard, so normal will have to do.
EDIT2: Oh, they do, but... no, normal is fine.
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2012, 02:51:04 AM »
Godlike: Dragon (FE7), Cain (FE10)
Heavy: Ashnard (FE9), Lyn (FE7)
Middle: Colm (FE8), Nergal (FE7)
Light: Riev (FE8), Garcia (FE8)
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2012, 02:53:08 AM »
Neph: post a full nom list if you would.
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2012, 04:20:26 AM »
Neph: I swapped around the divisions on your Nino and Oswin noms, in accordance with prevailing interps.  Hector and Ashnard were already nommed, so if you want to substitute some more noms in their place you're welcome to, just make a new post saying you've done so.
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2012, 04:25:26 AM »
The DL does have HM Ashnard stats (see http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php/topic,466.msg28895.html#msg28895 ), but either Ashnard has the whole Goddess Protect nonsense giving him a bunch of free wins...  though...  that said, this is the rare tournament where most of Godlike will not be cheesed out instantly since your average FE Godlike does in fact have a "legendary" weapon that probably breaks the barrier (Ragnell = Durandal / Sacred Twins / Dragon Breath / etc., sure)

Pain & Agony are obscure losers who we don't seem to have a stat topic on, however.
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2012, 04:29:26 AM »
In addition to that, I was just planning to put an explicit disclaimer to the effect that anyone fighting Ashnard, Black Knight, or FE10's Mantle users had their weapon blessed.

I'm not too worried about stat topic availability considering the marvelous resource that is Serenes.  Pain and Agony, specifically, are the bosses of 1-4, so early in the game that you can get reasonably accurate averages just using the base level of available PCs and adding a point or two to everything.
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2012, 04:47:12 AM »
I assume characters have a locked game for those that appear in both FE6/FE7 or FE9/FE10?  Anyway one game seems suspiciously underrepresented at the moment, so...

Eirika, Ephraim (FE8)
Caeda (FESD), Nepheene (FE9) (She apparently made Heavy in the DL.)
Jill (FE9), Volke (FE9)
Lethe (FE9), Soren (FE9)
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2012, 05:00:51 AM »
I've just been taking folks as they're nommed and assuming they are indeed restricted to the game they're nommed from.  Whether people want to double nom as an extention of this and have FE9 Tibarn vs FE10 Tibarn is up to them.

I'd... rather not put the twins in Godlike.  Feel free to nom something else.
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2012, 05:32:25 AM »
Quote from: Cmdr_King on March 05, 2012, 04:20:26 AM
Neph: I swapped around the divisions on your Nino and Oswin noms, in accordance with prevailing interps.  Hector and Ashnard were already nommed, so if you want to substitute some more noms in their place you're welcome to, just make a new post saying you've done so.

Gotcha. I'll leave them as-is in case other people want the spots, but if they end up not being filled let me know.
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2012, 04:43:58 PM »
Just guessing on divisions

Nasir fe9, kurthnaga fe10
Tanith fe9 (assuming reinforce is legal), Roy fe6
Marth fe11, lute fe8
Mordecai fe9, jeigan fe11

Feel free to rearrange them as necessary
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2012, 07:11:55 PM »
CK: Well...  uh...  hmm.  The twins did make it into Godlike in the DL itself IIRC.  Would Ike be an acceptable replacement?  Dunno though, I think Ike is usually thought to be worse than Eirika in the DL due to lacking hax evade.  Don't really have anything for Godlike otherwise.

Djinn: Nasir doesn't swing Godlike. He's not a royal, and I sure don't see the Demi Band as universally legal, and I don't think he has a first-turn transform unlike Lethe, so he's sitting on Light since he gives up at least his first turn.  (Forget what his starting gague exactly was.)

Also, FWIW, I'd totally see Reinforce as legal, but Tanith would still lose upon her own death (even if there were reinforcements around).
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2012, 07:27:25 PM »
Yeah, Nasir's a Light (he transforms on turn 4, or turn 3 if he's attacked twice before then) and Kurth is... well, he varies with a few interps but he certainly isn't Godlike.

Eirika won her way to Godlike and was 1-2 there in the DL proper. Ephraim finished his DL career in Heavy but did have a single Godlike loss to his name following a season where he was Heavy runner-up.
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2012, 08:13:22 PM »
Okay then, just change my Godlikes to Tibarn and Naesala.

Also, we should totes let Advance Wars units in this too, same company and all amirite?
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2012, 06:07:42 AM »
Dark Holy Tal noms:

Godlike: Zelgius (FE10), Fargus (FE7) - feel free to throw out Fargus. That said he's as legal as FE9 Black Knight to me...
Heavy: Eirika (FE8), Elincia (FE10) - Not sold on Eirika as Heavy but sure thing~
Middle: Marcia (FE9-10), Micaiah (FE10)
Light: Sanaki (FE10), Lucius (FE7)
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2012, 06:35:05 PM »
Godlike: EDIT: I don't think I know any other FE Godlike who isn't nommed outside of FE4 insanity.
Heavy: Tana (FE8), Rutger (FE6)
Middle: Clarine (FE6), Vanessa (FE8)
Light: Rhys (FE9), Knoll (FE8)
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2012, 07:52:11 PM »
i should do this shouldn't i

Godlike: Dhegensea (FE10), Dragon (FE7) uh man FE is kind of sparse for godlikes without throwing FE4 into the mix
Heavy: Sue (FE6), Ephraim (FE8)
Middle: Neimi (FE8), Lilina (FE6)
Light: Oliver (FE10), Gordin (FE11)
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Re: FEDL- The Beginning
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2012, 08:03:05 PM »
Feel free to throw these out, but since I still have 2 Godlike noms up myself...

* Uber-Mia (w/ Vantage + Wrath skills, an Elixir item, Lvl.20 to a normal endgame level) (FE9)
* Ike (FE10), swaps Nihil out for Resolve
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