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PG week 2 Light
« on: August 18, 2012, 12:08:29 AM »
In:

Luca: 10-10
BW: 14-15

Out:

Tita: 8-9

Tinman- I want to make a bunch of dumb metal puns here so badly.
Berserker- Uh well he has durability!
Tia- Tia has no durability. ;_;

Tinman (WoO) vs Mio (G1)
Tinman vs Hojo (FF7)
Tinman vs Jessica (MK)
Tinman vs Norn (OB)
Tinman vs Vincent (S2)
Tinman vs Seth (FE8)
Tinman vs Volug (FE10)
Tinman vs Shady (WA3)
Tinman vs Arietta (TotA)
Tinman vs Randi (SoM)
Tinman vs Doll (Saga)
Tinman vs Labyrinthia (XF)

Berserker (FF5) vs Mio (G1)
Berserker vs Hojo (FF7)
Berserker vs Jessica (MK)
Berserker vs Norn (OB)
Berserker vs Vincent (S2)
Berserker vs Seth (FE8)
Berserker vs Volug (FE10)
Berserker vs Shady (WA3)
Berserker vs Arietta (TotA)
Berserker vs Randi (SoM)
Berserker vs Doll (Saga)
Berserker vs Labyrinthia (XF)

Tia  (Lufia2) vs Mio (G1)
Tia vs Hojo (FF7)
Tia vs Jessica (MK)
Tia vs Norn (OB)
Tia vs Vincent (S2)
Tia vs Seth (FE8)
Tia vs Volug (FE10)
Tia vs Shady (WA3)
Tia vs Arietta (TotA)
Tia vs Randi (SoM)
Tia vs Doll (Saga)
Tia vs Labyrinthia (XF)
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Re: PG week 2 Light
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2012, 02:04:02 AM »
Tinman (WoO) vs Mio (G1) - Faster, paralyzes.
Tinman vs Hojo (FF7) - uh.
Tinman vs Vincent (S2) - Yar.  Tinman is good against this sort of dueler.
Tinman vs Seth (FE8) - Outslugs.
Tinman vs Volug (FE10) - Volug is like Seth but worse.  Volug may even double but his damage is worse, not willing to kneejerk in his favor there.
Tinman vs Shady (WA3) - Tinman gets two turns despite being slow and Shady hitting a weakness here.
Tinman vs Randi (SoM) - Yeah no.
Tinman vs Doll (Saga) - Tinman, -1.41 SD, Doll, -1.45 SD.  Unless evidence to suggest otherwise comes along I am not being kind enough to assume that GlassShield is stopping a full Battle Wind.  Draining is out since Battle Wind outpaces that.

6-1.  Tinman's a pretty good Light despite the speed, him doing well here isn't a surprise.

Berserker (FF5) vs Mio (G1) - As said in Middle, I don't think I have much of a problem with Hermes Sandals.
Berserker vs Hojo (FF7) - uh.
Berserker vs Vincent (S2) - Probably outraces the ID.
Berserker vs Seth (FE8) - I think Berserker can go long range to avoid silver lance counters?  Evade/Physical durability make me lean him anyways.
Berserker vs Volug (FE10) - hahaha like *fuck* I let Volug have Savage.  Even if I did it wouldn't matter.
Berserker vs Shady (WA3) - Kneejerk
Berserker vs Randi (SoM) - Defense/evade.
Berserker vs Doll (Saga) - Jesus christ, Doll.

6-1.  Light's pretty physical, which Berserker does well against.

Tia  (Lufia2) vs Mio (G1) - No Seethru Cape and Tia doesn't OHKO.
Tia vs Hojo (FF7) - uh.
Tia vs Vincent (S2) - sure
Tia vs Seth (FE8) - Seth 2HKOs with a silver lance!  This isn't enough.
Tia vs Volug (FE10) - oh wow Volug RES+fire weakness
Tia vs Shady (WA3) - Aqua Attack is horrible death here.
Tia vs Randi (SoM) - good fucking god Randi.
Tia vs Doll (Saga) - Speed.

6-1.  Not really a surprise, speed and options are cool even if the durability decidedly isn't.

Mio: 2-1.  Status!
Vincent: 1-2.  Okay enough but faced some good lights.
Seth/Volug/Shady/Randi/Doll: 0-3, are bad and should feel bad.
Hojo: ??? at him, should probably flat out abstain.
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Re: PG week 2 Light
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2012, 02:10:33 AM »
Berserker (FF5) vs Mio (G1)- Status.
Berserker vs Hojo (FF7)- Status. Fuck off Hojo.
Berserker vs Jessica (MK)- Timed cards.
Berserker vs Norn (OB)- Way faster and might evade a physical.
Berserker vs Vincent (S2)- The shredding should give him enough  of a damage boost to avoid being IDed.
Berserker vs Seth (FE8)- I think Seth going first tilts it.
Berserker vs Volug (FE10)- Savage should shred Berserker.  Edit: fuck halfshift
Berserker vs Shady (WA3)- Kneejerk.
Berserker vs Arietta (TotA)- Defense tanking.
Berserker vs Randi (SoM)- Defense.
Berserker vs Doll (Saga)- Glass shield doesn't work due to thor's hammer, power grab has bad accuracy and Doll is slow. This equals a lot of sadness. Kneejerking this way.
Berserker vs Labyrinthia (XF)- Labby is awful.

Tia  (Lufia2) vs Mio (G1)
Tia vs Hojo (FF7)- Think she avoids the OHKO, but christ. Sad.
Tia vs Jessica (MK)- Timed card beatdown.
Tia vs Norn (OB)- Tia's not far from being OHKOed here and Norn is very hard to status. I don't think she can status or heal her way out of trouble for long.  Tia still wins though; Aqua attack should OHKO.
Tia vs Vincent (S2)- Vincent offense isn't great.
Tia vs Seth (FE8)- Goddamnit Seth.
Tia vs Volug (FE10)- Get some RES, Volug.
Tia vs Shady (WA3)- Not Shady's fight.
Tia vs Arietta (TotA)-- IP-splat.
Tia vs Randi (SoM)- Randi can block sleep, but it means his MDef goes to absolute shit. Tia blitzes iwth magic there.  Sleep screws up his charging strategy otherwise.
Tia vs Doll (Saga)- Speed advantage.
Tia vs Labyrinthia (XF)- Labby sucks.
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Re: PG week 2 Light
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2012, 07:00:44 PM »
Tin Man (WoO) vs Mio (G1) - Faster.
Tin Man vs Hojo (FF7) - EDIT: Holy crap Slow makes Tin Man completely fail and the third form doesn't get OHKOed.
Tin Man vs Jessica (MK) - Silence makes Tin Man utterly horrible and Jessica doesn't even need it because Battle Wind makes so many evade checks while being a very moderate 2HKO at best against timed cards healing.
Tin Man vs Norn (OB) - Norn pdur.
Tin Man vs Vincent (S2) - Vincent probably eats a 2HKO and has nowhere near enough healing to run Tin Man out of resources.
Tin Man vs Seth (FE8) - Tin Man 2HKOs Seth? Ow, not good a place to be here, he doesn't even get doubled either. WTD can't tilt that even with counters at play.
Tin Man vs Shady (WA3) - Holy shit Shady you hit that 2x weakness and you fail to 3HKO? Lord almighty. EDIT: Though SHADY EVADE HYPE could tilt it and I'd be totally okay with voting that way because it's hilarious. But eh, will leave that to Elfboy. >_>
Tin Man vs Arietta (TotA) - Tin Man gets to relive his in-game glory by OHKOing a loser with Battle Wind. Hold me closer, Tiny Tinny Dancer~
Tin Man vs Randi (SoM) - 3HKOs and Randi pressure is kinda sucky.
Tin Man vs Doll (Saga) - Holy crap Tin Man may 2HKO Doll -through Glass Shield-. This is very sad.
Tin Man vs Labyrinthia (XF) - No respecting Distortion against Battle Wind when the entire cast relies on multihits to deal damage in practice. Kinda suspect it might not even be necessary? It's possible Tin Man 2HKOs anyway with something else because :labby:.

Berserker (FF5) vs Mio (G1) - EDIT: rite, them sandals.
Berserker vs Hojo (FF7) - 'dat evade probably makes Hojo really suck with the status slinging and Slow ain't even an option.
Berserker vs Jessica (MK) - The ID is turn six -before- factoring in Jessica's Blocking. This is giving her a lot of time.
Berserker vs Norn (OB) - Difference between Berserker and Tin Man is that Berserker is probably -less- accurate, has half the damage and no ITE option in a pinch. Sure.
Berserker vs Vincent (S2) - Vincent pressure.
Berserker vs Seth (FE8) - Dunno. Seth goes first, but has to deal with shield evade and Berserker's durability. Berserker herself can even avoid counters and, as usual, not getting doubled by Seth either.
Berserker vs Shady (WA3) - Man, Shady.
Berserker vs Arietta (TotA) - Man, Arietta.
Berserker vs Randi (SoM) - Defense and evade. Goddamn, Randi.
Berserker vs Doll (Saga) - Holy -crap-, Doll.
Berserker vs Labyrinthia (XF) - I think Berserker punches through Distortion and Berserker halves Lightning. Labby being so goddamn awful is impressive, considering she has both 2HKO damage and spoiling games theoretically going for her. Gogogo Rule of Tim.

Tia  (Lufia2) vs Mio (G1) - For now. super, where is Seethru Silk gotten anyway?
Tia vs Hojo (FF7) - Hojo and damage control. Tia just dicks around until she gets enough IP to OHKO the third form and wins.
Tia vs Jessica (MK) - Timed cards!
Tia vs Norn (OB) - See the aiel.
Tia vs Vincent (S2) - Vincent.
Tia vs Seth (FE8) - EDIT: OH DEAR GOD, SETH IS DOUBLED?
Tia vs Shady (WA3) - Shady, Shady, Shady. =(
Tia vs Arietta (TotA) - Arietta is so goddamned awful.
Tia vs Randi (SoM) - Dear lord, Randi. Owned by -Lufia 2 sleep-?
Tia vs Doll (Saga) - Doll is so amazing.
Tia vs Labyrinthia (XF) - Labyrinthia is almost as amazing as Doll.

Tin Man - 8-3 (Performed -way better- than expected. I mean, Tin Man's hardly a bad Light, near-2HKO damage off over 1.5x pdur and 1.4x mdur is kinda cool in the division even running off speed/accuracy combo of eeeeeeeew, but man, this pool is oddly bad!)
Berserker - 8-3 (As above. Berserker is pretty good in the division, but this pool.)
Tia - 9-2 (Once again. What the christ, this Light pool. Doll? Shady Thousand? Labyrinthia? ARIETTA?)
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Re: PG week 2 Light
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2012, 01:47:43 AM »
Vote stealing.

Quote from: Jo'ou Ranbu on August 20, 2012, 07:00:44 PM
Tin Man (WoO) vs Mio (G1) - Faster.
Tin Man vs Hojo (FF7) - EDIT: Holy crap Slow makes Tin Man completely fail and the third form doesn't get OHKOed.
Tin Man vs Jessica (MK) - Silence makes Tin Man utterly horrible and Jessica doesn't even need it because Battle Wind makes so many evade checks while being a very moderate 2HKO at best against timed cards healing.
Tin Man vs Norn (OB) - Norn pdur.
Tin Man vs Vincent (S2) - Vincent probably eats a 2HKO and has nowhere near enough healing to run Tin Man out of resources.
Tin Man vs Seth (FE8) - Tin Man 2HKOs Seth? Ow, not good a place to be here, he doesn't even get doubled either. WTD can't tilt that even with counters at play.
Tin Man vs Shady (WA3) - Holy shit Shady you hit that 2x weakness and you fail to 3HKO? Lord almighty. EDIT: Though SHADY EVADE HYPE could tilt it and I'd be totally okay with voting that way because it's hilarious. But eh, will leave that to Elfboy. >_>
Tin Man vs Arietta (TotA) - Tin Man gets to relive his in-game glory by OHKOing a loser with Battle Wind. Hold me closer, Tiny Tinny Dancer~
Tin Man vs Randi (SoM) - 3HKOs and Randi pressure is kinda sucky.
Tin Man vs Doll (Saga) - Holy crap Tin Man may 2HKO Doll -through Glass Shield-. This is very sad.
Tin Man vs Labyrinthia (XF) - No respecting Distortion against Battle Wind when the entire cast relies on multihits to deal damage in practice. Kinda suspect it might not even be necessary? It's possible Tin Man 2HKOs anyway with something else because :labby:.

Berserker (FF5) vs Mio (G1) - EDIT: rite, them sandals.
Berserker vs Hojo (FF7) - 'dat evade probably makes Hojo really suck with the status slinging and Slow ain't even an option.
Berserker vs Jessica (MK) - The ID is turn six -before- factoring in Jessica's Blocking. This is giving her a lot of time.
Berserker vs Norn (OB) - Difference between Berserker and Tin Man is that Berserker is probably -less- accurate, has half the damage and no ITE option in a pinch. Sure.
Berserker vs Vincent (S2) - Vincent pressure.
Berserker vs Seth (FE8) - Dunno. Seth goes first, but has to deal with shield evade and Berserker's durability. Berserker herself can even avoid counters and, as usual, not getting doubled by Seth either.
Berserker vs Shady (WA3) - Man, Shady.
Berserker vs Arietta (TotA) - Man, Arietta.
Berserker vs Randi (SoM) - Defense and evade. Goddamn, Randi.
Berserker vs Doll (Saga) - Holy -crap-, Doll.
Berserker vs Labyrinthia (XF) - I think Berserker punches through Distortion and Berserker halves Lightning. Labby being so goddamn awful is impressive, considering she has both 2HKO damage and spoiling games theoretically going for her. Gogogo Rule of Tim.

Tia  (Lufia2) vs Mio (G1) - For now. super, where is Seethru Silk gotten anyway?
Tia vs Hojo (FF7) - Hojo and damage control. Tia just dicks around until she gets enough IP to OHKO the third form and wins.
Tia vs Jessica (MK) - Timed cards!
Tia vs Norn (OB) - See the aiel.
Tia vs Vincent (S2) - Vincent.
Tia vs Seth (FE8) - EDIT: OH DEAR GOD, SETH IS DOUBLED?
Tia vs Shady (WA3) - Shady, Shady, Shady. =(
Tia vs Arietta (TotA) - Arietta is so goddamned awful.
Tia vs Randi (SoM) - Dear lord, Randi. Owned by -Lufia 2 sleep-?
Tia vs Doll (Saga) - Doll is so amazing.
Tia vs Labyrinthia (XF) - Labyrinthia is almost as amazing as Doll.

Tin Man - 8-3 (Performed -way better- than expected. I mean, Tin Man's hardly a bad Light, near-2HKO damage off over 1.5x pdur and 1.4x mdur is kinda cool in the division even running off speed/accuracy combo of eeeeeeeew, but man, this pool is oddly bad!)
Berserker - 8-3 (As above. Berserker is pretty good in the division, but this pool.)
Tia - 9-2 (Once again. What the christ, this Light pool. Doll? Shady Thousand? Labyrinthia? ARIETTA?)
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Re: PG week 2 Light
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2012, 08:58:26 AM »
Tinman (WoO) vs Mio (G1)- Mio. Why is Mio in Light?
Tinman vs Hojo (FF7)- Hojo. Sure.
Tinman vs Jessica (MK)- Jessica. Why is Jessica in Light?
Tinman vs Norn (OB)- inma. 2hkos, isn't 3-2ed
Tinman vs Vincent (S2)- Tinman
Tinman vs Seth (FE8)- Tinman
Tinman vs Shady (WA3)- Tinman
Tinman vs Arietta (TotA)- Tinman. We started in middle and then veered into Puny?
Tinman vs Randi (SoM)- Tinman
Tinman vs Doll (Saga)- Tinman
Tinman vs Labyrinthia (XF)- Tinman. I saw Distortion getting Battle Wind...but he 3HKOs with better one hit damage anyways first.

Berserker (FF5) vs Mio (G1)- Berserker
Berserker vs Hojo (FF7)- Not enough of a clue
Berserker vs Jessica (MK)- Jessica
Berserker vs Norn (OB)- Norn
Berserker vs Vincent (S2)- Vincent like 8HKOs with Berserker Pdur and then some evade too makes it worse.
Berserker vs Seth (FE8)
Berserker vs Volug (FE10)
Berserker vs Shady (WA3)
Berserker vs Arietta (TotA)
Berserker vs Randi (SoM)
Berserker vs Doll (Saga)
Berserker vs Labyrinthia (XF)

Tia  (Lufia2) vs Mio (G1)- Tia
Tia vs Hojo (FF7)- Tia
Tia vs Jessica (MK)- Jessica I think. Not thinking overly hard
Tia vs Norn (OB)- Tia. Thank god someone already did this one
Tia vs Vincent (S2)
Tia vs Seth (FE8)
Tia vs Shady (WA3)
Tia vs Arietta (TotA)
Tia vs Randi (SoM)
Tia vs Doll (Saga)
Tia vs Labyrinthia (XF)- And just the rest

Tia 10-1
Berserker 8-2
Tinman 8-3

Uh...well, I guess you certainly proved that this Light field is really bad! Except for the Middle part, which was still unimpressive overall.
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Re: PG week 2 Light
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2012, 12:54:12 PM »
The next light field will be much less sad.
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Re: PG week 2 Light
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2012, 05:29:18 PM »
Quote from: superaielman on August 23, 2012, 12:54:12 PM
The next light field will be much less sad.

You say that, yet I can hear myself cursing the heavens next week for hilariously pathetic Shuckle matches.
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Re: PG week 2 Light
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2012, 01:00:30 AM »
Tinman (WoO) vs Mio (G1): Status.
Tinman vs Hojo (FF7)
Tinman vs Jessica (MK)
Tinman vs Norn (OB)
Tinman vs Vincent (S2)
Tinman vs Seth (FE8)
Tinman vs Volug (FE10): Totally not sure what to do with Laguz. Halfshift isn't enough I don't think.
Tinman vs Shady (WA3)
Tinman vs Arietta (TotA)
Tinman vs Randi (SoM)
Tinman vs Doll (Saga)
Tinman vs Labyrinthia (XF)

Berserker (FF5) vs Mio (G1)
Berserker vs Hojo (FF7)
Berserker vs Jessica (MK)
Berserker vs Norn (OB)
Berserker vs Vincent (S2)
Berserker vs Seth (FE8)
Berserker vs Volug (FE10)
Berserker vs Shady (WA3)
Berserker vs Arietta (TotA)
Berserker vs Randi (SoM)
Berserker vs Doll (Saga)
Berserker vs Labyrinthia (XF)

Tia  (Lufia2) vs Mio (G1)
Tia vs Hojo (FF7)
Tia vs Jessica (MK): Not sure about this. Timed Cards aren't even that good for her. But sure.
Tia vs Norn (OB)
Tia vs Vincent (S2)
Tia vs Seth (FE8)
Tia vs Volug (FE10)
Tia vs Shady (WA3)
Tia vs Arietta (TotA)
Tia vs Randi (SoM)
Tia vs Doll (Saga)
Tia vs Labyrinthia (XF)
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Re: PG week 2 Light
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2012, 06:48:21 PM »
Tinman (WoO) vs Mio (G1)
Tinman vs Hojo (FF7)
Tinman vs Jessica (MK)- So it turns out Tinman sucks against middles.
Tinman vs Vincent (S2)
Tinman vs Seth (FE8)- It's tempting to argue Seth can take an Armor Slayer and clean house, but I don't think Tinman gets any special consideration that way (elemental weakness aside) in-game so nah.
Tinman vs Volug (FE10)- Kneejerk is even if Volug full transformed on his second turn (I'm being lazy here), he's still 2HKOed.  And Tinman is like 150% durability, no amount of doubles kills that in one turn.  (Also ignores that I THINK Olivi grass only allows for turn 3 transformations)
Tinman vs Shady (WA3)- Hum.  Unless WA3 had special fliers vs melee evade (which is certainly plausible), I can't imagine Shady has evade better than 25% which I think he'd need here.  (That is, evade up to 25%, ie Tinman missing 2 of 8 hits, is still a loss for Shady.  He needs a third hit to miss.)
Tinman vs Arietta (TotA)
Tinman vs Doll (Saga)
Tinman vs Labyrinthia (XF)

7-3
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Re: PG week 2 Light
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2012, 06:05:10 AM »
Tinman (WoO) vs Mio (G1): Stungun.
Tinman vs Hojo (FF7): Tinman can OHKO form 1, 2HKO the other two forms? The problem is that Hojo has turn 2 confuse, but eh, his physical doesn't hurt himself that badly so that's mostly a waste of time. So yeah, Hojo 2 just physicals twice (this form is ass slow, but probably still faster than Timnan). Then the final form has the combo with 80% sleep... yeah, that's game.
Tinman vs Jessica (MK): Healing Echo is pretty much win here.
Tinman vs Vincent (S2): Vincent has a 4-3. So Vincent, Tinman, heal, Tinman, heal, Vincent, Tinman, heal, Tinman, heal, Tinman, Vincent x2. Does Vincent kill with two Shreddings and two physicals? Hm, close, but not quite.
Tinman vs Seth (FE8): WTA and some slight evade staves off a 2HKO, and Seth probably counters, so that's what, 5 turns? Ahaha no. Tempted to allow Armourslayer to work here to boot.
Tinman vs Volug (FE10): Volug 3-2's on CTB, but falls just short of a double. Be less bad Volug.
Tinman vs Shady (WA3): Shady 3HKOs thanks to weakness, but Tinman 2HKOs. lol 3-2, easy win.
Tinman vs Arietta (TotA): Arietta has this thing where she is terrible.
Tinman vs Randi (SoM): Randi 4HKOs and of course has a 4-3, so is he 2HKOed? Nope! Fail.
Tinman vs Doll (Saga): Holy shit Tinman is FASTER?
Tinman vs Labyrinthia (XF)

Berserker (FF5) vs Mio (G1): Nulls her status.
Berserker vs Hojo (FF7): Immune to sleep, faster than Hojo 2 probably so doesn't fear Confuse, doesn't fear physicals in general... yeah, think she's fine.
Berserker vs Jessica (MK): Timed healing and magic.
Berserker vs Vincent (S2): Berserker's not as damaging as Tinman, but there's no doubling going on either. Vincent needs five turns to win (2 magic + 2 physicals), but he can attack, attack, heal, attack, heal, atack, heal, attack... yeah he's fine.
Berserker vs Seth (FE8): Berserker 4HKOs, which gives Seth... seven turns? WHICH DOESN'T KILL WHAT THE HELL. And there's the ranged option as well though that feels worse.
Berserker vs Volug (FE10): Volug's a faster (but not enough to matter here) less damaging Seth with no WTA hype. That's not flying.
Berserker vs Shady (WA3): Interesting. Shady -might- 3-2, and probably dodges once (Berserker being only 90 hit ensures this more or less, actually) so is only 4HKOed. 6 shots... yeah that's killing. Hell, five is, doesn't even need the 3-2. Awww yeah.
Berserker vs Arietta (TotA): Arietta is still terrible.
Berserker vs Randi (SoM): Outslugging Berserker with physicals in Light: the movie.
Berserker vs Doll (Saga): Thor's Hammer to the rescue, yeah.
Berserker vs Labyrinthia (XF): Faster and 2HKOs. Also resists lightning because why not.

Tia  (Lufia2) vs Mio (G1)
Tia vs Hojo (FF7)
Tia vs Jessica (MK)
Tia vs Norn (OB)
Tia vs Vincent (S2)
Tia vs Seth (FE8)
Tia vs Volug (FE10)
Tia vs Shady (WA3)
Tia vs Arietta (TotA)
Tia vs Randi (SoM)
Tia vs Doll (Saga)
Tia vs Labyrinthia (XF)

Berserker 8-3
Tinman 5-6

Tia later if I decide it's worth my time. I may not.
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Maybe.
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