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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1900 on: August 27, 2013, 09:27:53 PM »
Given the overall plot arc of FFV (elemental crystals, interdimensional meteor rocketships, chosen heroes save world from evil tree), lighthearted humor was the right decision for the script and I don't particularly care who made it.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1901 on: August 27, 2013, 09:42:17 PM »
I'm with the Elf-Rob alliance on this one.  I think we've been over this before, but your theory that FF5 was originally supposed to be humorous / satirical / something doesn't seem to fly from what I know of the story, either.  It was just really generic.  Now, luckily for us, it turns out that if you do want to interject random humor, it's easy to do this on a generic quest-to-save-the-world skeleton, but that doesn't mean it was there originally.  To wildly guess, I'd suspect that FF5's script was written by big fans of FF3j's plot, since there are a number of similarities (multiple worlds, 2 sets of 4 destined warriors, evil plan to return everything to void), but decided they should incorporate some of FF4's innovations, so we'll have Exdeath actually show up sooner than the final dungeon to taunt the party a la Golbez, and we'll need some tragic death / sacrifice thing too, but from an old guy so it's okay (Tellah / Galuf).

I'm with the Elf-Rob alliance on this one.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1902 on: August 27, 2013, 10:37:05 PM »
Mana Khemia 2 - Restarted this awhile back since I never got around to beating it. Working my way through slowly, just beat the most annoyingly tanky boss outside of a BoF game in the form of a gigantic buffalo pig thing with a satellite missile launcher. Took nearly no damage from anything I did outside of crits and YUN AND ENNA'S BASIC PHYSICALS(those hit weakness for some reason while their techs did not). And that was after busting it's defense, too. Unite Mode activating 4 times in one fight, kind of a thing.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1903 on: August 27, 2013, 10:42:10 PM »
Buffacow has this thing where it has something like 80% reduction against the first three or four hits in a chain, it's kind of absurd without unite mode.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1904 on: August 27, 2013, 11:38:56 PM »
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1905 on: August 28, 2013, 08:36:39 PM »
FF5 Solo continues.

So I get the Fire Ship. I realise I can't reliably survive Skull Eaters yet (they go first and can do ~800 to the back row), at least not with any job which can kill them, so we'll put Jacohl aside. Off to Istory instead! I get into a fight with Ramuh, lose because he pulls out a decent damage move I didn't know he had (only decent, so I'd have been fine if I stayed healed). Fine. I opt for Time/Barehanded to deal with him quickly and effectively. And of course I instead get into a fight with Mini Dragons.

Mini Dragons - 1000 HP, good defences, and their damage can add up. This is a long, long, long slog for my setup, which pretty much has to retreat to the back row, haste, heal, and tank. Gravity does help cutting them down at least.

After that fight takes ages, I opt for something more aggressive in case I fight them again. Ninja with Time it is! I'll throw crap at them if need be.

Ramuh - Not much to say here, Haste/Slow, just attack for a while. Ramuh kinda sucks outside his rare Thundara.
Sandworm - Aqua Breath to the FACE. This goes for most of the desert as well.
Crayclaw - Black Mage. Actually not a *complete* joke, he goes first and uses Tailscrew! I have to use a Hi-Potion since I'm in a non-healing class. 2HKO him though. If I'd gone with Red I could have saved a resource, but eh, Black Mage AP more valuable.
Adamantoise - Red with Time. Adamantoise is a fair bit tougher than Crayclaw so he gets the more serious setup. With this I can do everything: haste, slow, protect, healing, and Blzzara to actually do decent damage. The only W1 boss which Vampire completely sucks against, for the record.
Rocket Launchers - So surprise, these guys are actually a pain! I go with Summoner + Learning so that I can 2HKO them while learning Missile. That's not important though. What is important is that they have Rocket Punch, which confuses. And lots, and lots of gravity, and no physicals to unconfuse you. So yeah, easy to hit yourself fatally here. Going barehanded instead of using a Thunder Rod is actually a bit safer. In hindsight I should just have used a staff-using class, since Heal Staff lols at confuse.
Flamethrowers - Another new blue magic, another formation MT 2HKOed by Ramuh. These guys have decent offence but are easy enough to outslug.
Soul Cannon - Ninja with some magic skillset. The key here is OHKOing the Launchers before they use Old, and a scroll does just that. Thunder Scrolls the rest of the way, using Vampire to heal. In hindsight I should have used Haste/Slow since there's no way he'd even be at any risk of firing a second shot with those, and I could have saved a bit of money. No big, though.

Ronka Ruins as the only major dungeon of the arc, definitely deserve some note. I mostly work on learning Control here, with Blue Magic if I get into trouble. Missile helps for cutting through higher HP, Flame Thrower on enemies with high def, otherwise Main Gauche Goblin Punch all day long. Aqua Breath if I face five enemies at once. Not too bad. Once I'm done getting Control I switch to Summoner for some very easy sweeping, as nearly everything here is one-rounded by either Shiva or Ramuh.

Ghidra - Oh hey, I have a use for Phoenix Downs on this challenge. Bye. I'm even Level 28 at the end of Ronka, so I get Level 4 Graviga.

Archeoavis - Time and Blue. Missile cuts through a couple forms, Flame Thrower/Aera most of the rest. Last form and its element spoiling just eats chippy Goblin Punch death, but with the Heal Staff, Haste, Regen, and Slow, I'm not in much danger other than a scary moment or two with confuse (which still isn't that bad).

Okay, world 1 wrapup time.

Skull Eaters - Now that I have over 800 HP as a Ninja, I take these guys and their stupid cave down. They go first, sometimes they run, sometimes they miss. I actually never do get hit but it doesn't matter! Scrolls OHKO them.
Prototype - Control. zzz.
Jackanapes - Control actually doesn't work here, so much for that. So Ninja, OHKO them with Shuriken. Feels like a waste but I probably wasn't going to use those Shuriken on anything else so whatever. I kill four of them and grab the treasure.

Titan (1 reset) - Haha I screw this up, attack him just as he's getting a turn where he decides to use Earth Shaker, and two of those in a row kill me! Aside from that dumb mistake this guy's not too hard, since ES is nowhere near the high 2HKO it often is at normal levels.
Manticore - Pretty easy. Punch it to death with Barehanded White Mage.
Purobulos - Summoner. Titan. Smash. They counter Titan by healing themselves but it so doesn't ward off the 2HKO. Important to blitz these guys because they can Self-Destruct turn 2.

So off to world 2!

Solo Level 5 Galuf! Not too bad, enemies fail to OHKO him even now. Throw takes out the randoms, one shot of gravity takes out Gilgamesh. I do have one reset here because I job change to Time Mage a few steps early, run into a random, and get slowly beaten down. The fact that I almost win is a little depressing.

Big Bridge enemies largely roll over and die to Ramuh. Gilgamesh is tougher and demands an actual setup, so Red with Time again. As with Adamantoise, having a full skillset like this is pretty potent: Haste/Slow/Regen/Protect, healing, and -ara spells for offence. It's quite bad offence once he uses Protect/Shell (Haste is countered by using Slow again) but it suffices.

And that's where I am now!

Job update:

Blue Mage - JL3. Blue Magic remains great for Vampire, Missile, Flame Thrower, Goblin Punch, Aqua Breath, etc.
Summoner - JL2. Picked this up mainly in Ronka, it's a great skillset obviously, MT mowing things down for the win. Throw might be even better but it has a prohibitive JP investment.
Ninja - JL2. I haven't used its abilities, but Throw is nice, see above.
Monk - JL2. Still all about Barehanded. Great ST damage if things don't spoil it, Summon mows things down faster and from the back row though.
Time - JL2. Haste/Slow yep. Regen has gotten some use! As a carrier, also has Gravity.
Black - JL2. Working on this one quietly in the background although it's lost much of its luster outside a few fights.
Beastmaster - JL2. Control! So far only used for specific fights, but it may see broader use once I get the Hypno Crown.
White - JL1. My current project, as there will come a time when Curaga is by far the best healing and Shell/Image will also be welcome.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1906 on: August 28, 2013, 09:27:23 PM »
SR4: The president of America is French.

Also I'm just gonna go ahead and assume Rob rocks the Captain's Pistol at all times.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1907 on: August 29, 2013, 01:47:33 AM »
SR4: The president of America is French.

Also I'm just gonna go ahead and assume Rob rocks the Captain's Pistol at all times.

No, the President of the United States is British.  Although if you use the Nolan North voice he makes it very clear that your character is now named Nolan North and there is no way around it.

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« Reply #1908 on: August 29, 2013, 02:31:01 AM »
Yeah, I wanted to use Deckard's gun, but it was just too fucking slow. Star Wars blasters all the way. (Although, my standard method for dealing with almost anything is the same as it was in SR3: unload SMG or shotgun into a car near the enemies so it explodes and kills all of them without me having to aim at them individually.)

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« Reply #1909 on: August 29, 2013, 03:03:45 AM »
SR4: The president of America is French.

Also I'm just gonna go ahead and assume Rob rocks the Captain's Pistol at all times.

No, the President of the United States is British.  Although if you use the Nolan North voice he makes it very clear that your character is now named Nolan North and there is no way around it.

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-Starship Troopers assault rifle because the Verhoeven connection with Robocop.  Would you like to know more?

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« Reply #1910 on: August 29, 2013, 03:54:13 AM »
Mother 3: Just did the 5th Needle Thing.

Haven't finished the game yet, but because it's on my mind, I'll let this off my chest now:

The game's humor is extremely hit or miss, and usually misses.  Mixoypale's or whatever solution to recovering you from hallucinations?  That was funny!  Simple, yet effective considering.

Masked Man having an elaborate red carpet appearance before zapping your team?  That's not funny.  It's just an over drawn cutscene that comes off as "LAUGH AT THIS! IT'S FUNNY! SEE!? I'M FUNNY ;_;" combined with a Manos moment of the team just standing there while the entire thing is happening rather than, you know, Lucas grabbing the darn thing.   This is the "Movie" Movie style way of parodying things; that making it overblown and hyper-silly is automatically funny for a parody.

Then you return to the beach, seeing Bronson, who apparently hasn't moved an inch, being entirely brown.  That's...actually kind of cute, because it is a legitimate parody of things that jRPGs have, while not bringing too much attention to itself.

The part that gets me most is how Mother 3 had some strong serious stuff early on, but then went "wait, right, Earthbound sequel" and is forcing out any silly ridiculous thing it can think of in hopes to remind us "THIS IS A FUNNY GAME!" but at the same time wants you to take it seriously.  It's biggest weakness is easily the thing that people were hyped up most about:

It's an Earthbound sequel.  Nothing against Earthbound, but because it is one, not only does it get compared directly to it, it shows an obligation to follow in Earthbound's foot steps, but not actually grasping what made Earthbound worked.

Another thing that made Earthbound work was WHEN the game was made.  In the SNES era, a lot of the silly things Earthbound was making fun of were the norm.  Few jRPGS had taken notable steps forward in the form of narrative,  and they were all fairly recent ones, so the era it was making fun of was still fresh in their minds.  It's very much a product of it's time.

Mother 3 is trying to parody a lot of the same things...during the PS2 era, when the genre has moved on notably in terms of story telling, narrative, character works, etc., and a Satire-style parody just doesn't work when the rest of the Genre is like "Yeah, we get it...that's why we don't do these things anymore..."
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1911 on: August 29, 2013, 04:50:04 AM »
Yeah, I wanted to use Deckard's gun, but it was just too fucking slow. Star Wars blasters all the way. (Although, my standard method for dealing with almost anything is the same as it was in SR3: unload SMG or shotgun into a car near the enemies so it explodes and kills all of them without me having to aim at them individually.)

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1912 on: August 29, 2013, 10:15:42 AM »
Fire Emblem Awakening: AKA The one where everyone is "quirky".

So I finally got around to picking this up again, and have gotten far enough in to be intrigued. The plot isn't bad and the game is good about not trying to play up any TWISTs or Mystaries. It just drops the hammer immediately instead of trying the string the player along as if they couldn't figure it out in the first cutscene plot threads pop up in.

Holy crap the entire cast is nuts. I'm not sure if I love it or if I'm annoyed by it. Good writing but damn.

If you ignore supports, the game plays it pretty straight, but there's also no character development. I thin I can literally count on one hand the number of pcs who speak in plot outside their recruitment scene.

Seriously, Ricken should not be the most sane person in my army.

Of the PCs I have so far, I think I'd rate thee sanity levels like:
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Chrom
Robin
Virion
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Frederick
Maribelle
Sully, Miriel
Donnel, Kellam, Vaike
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Lissa
Sumia

Everyone has some supports that round them out a bit, but there's an impressive amount of crazy in there

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« Reply #1913 on: August 29, 2013, 11:05:19 AM »
Yeah, I wanted to use Deckard's gun, but it was just too fucking slow. Star Wars blasters all the way. (Although, my standard method for dealing with almost anything is the same as it was in SR3: unload SMG or shotgun into a car near the enemies so it explodes and kills all of them without me having to aim at them individually.)

How far in are you?  Where Saints Row IV is going, you won't need cars... TO KILL.

I only did the first few plot missions before getting caught up in oh god so many collectibles, so I've mostly just been running around at random doing side missions. I have the freeze superpower, but that's it for the crazy stuff so far.

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« Reply #1914 on: August 29, 2013, 01:35:17 PM »
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If you ignore supports, the game plays it pretty straight, but there's also no character development. I thin I can literally count on one hand the number of pcs who speak in plot outside their recruitment scene.

To be fair,  FE games are like this regularly.  FE7 characters are kind of stale (outside of some Lyn-Mode stuff) without supports.

That said, the average FE13 support is far zanier than the previous games, so I guess it stands out more as a contrast to the main plot.  The characters in question also are just quirkier and thus more memorable, leading it to more interesting sequences on top of that.  It's kind of a necessity for a game like Fire Emblem with Perma-deaths, to avoid situations of "Wait what if this character died in a previous chapter? They can't participate here!"  FFT is another example in that regard, where whenever someone joins your party, it's sort of the game also going "And they will never get a (required) cut-scene ever again!" 

Supports were pretty much a tool implemented to try and fill the gaping void of character development outside of a core like 4 characters FE Games prior 6 had, with gameplay benefits to give you that extra incentive.  Ok, FE10 supports sucked ass, but they had plenty of fun info Sessions that were functionally supports anyway, so that worked well enough.
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« Reply #1915 on: August 29, 2013, 05:22:46 PM »
Speaking of which, I softmodded my Wii in large part so I can play FE9 without spending sixty dollars on it. Finished chapter 9 this morning, after something like six resets because Hard mode has a bunch of reinforcements and I am terrible at keeping fragile characters away from the odd myrmidon. Boyd has been my most surprising good character; he started out completely terrible and I considered just letting him die on the escape-the-fort chapter (took a bunch of resets and a Speedwing to get him out alive), but now he wrecks everything, doubles almost everything, dodges a lot and is impossible to kill unless I'm dumb and send him up against four enemies without healing him first.

Titania is oddly good too. The sheer volume of enemies, plus the fact that she auto-deploys in every chapter, led me to actually use her as something other than a panic button, leading her to eventually gain a level. Specifically, a seven-stat level (no RES). Either she's better than your average Jeigan or I guess that was all my RNG luck for the entire game.

Oscar is the suckiest cavalier I've seen in a long while, though. Level 13 and he's got less STR than Mia the weak-but-dodgy Myrmidon, who is L8. And he has no STR supports. But i keep him around because nobody else can use spears. Boooooo. (note: this game marks the first time I have ever given a shit about FE supports since the conditions for learning them are finally sane. Good job, IS.)
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1916 on: August 29, 2013, 05:49:54 PM »
Yay~

Titania is indeed better than your average jeigan. Seven stats is still an anomaly of course, but you can expect 4 pretty regularly.

Oscar is really damn good on average, probably the best PC in the game! Really good average stats, and due to supports and the knight ward he is impossible to RNG-screw on durability or speed! The only one possible is... strength. :( So if he has less strength than Mia you can safely drop him as you pick up other useful lance-users (did you get Marcia?).

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« Reply #1917 on: August 29, 2013, 05:55:22 PM »
Titania is one of the best PC's in the game, yeah. Also you got unlucky on Oscar. He's really tanky. STR is a bit of a problem as you noted, but he usually is so durable that it doesn't matter.
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« Reply #1918 on: August 29, 2013, 05:58:28 PM »
Oscar is still pretty tanky - not as much so as Titania or whatshisname the knight, but not that far behind them. I've put enough experience into him that I may just get him to Paladin and convert him into a tanky, mounted archer.

Plus now that I've got bonus EXP to play with I can save-scum for STR levels.

(I did get Marcia but am wary of making any pegasus knight my sole lance-user until I get the accessory that cancels weaknesses.)
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« Reply #1919 on: August 29, 2013, 06:12:01 PM »
For what it's worth arrow weakness is only 2x might in this game. (They're also weak to wind but... wind tomes are piss weak so 2x barely matters there.) Still I understand that logic.

You'll get another non-flying lance user (two of them, in fact) after finishing chapter 10.

For Oscar, if you do promote him, bows are fine, but you might also want to consider axes; they'll make up for lower strength somewhat and for some reason use Steel Axes at E, unlike other steel weapons.

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« Reply #1920 on: August 29, 2013, 06:23:03 PM »
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If you ignore supports, the game plays it pretty straight, but there's also no character development. I thin I can literally count on one hand the number of pcs who speak in plot outside their recruitment scene.

To be fair,  FE games are like this regularly.  FE7 characters are kind of stale (outside of some Lyn-Mode stuff) without supports.

That said, the average FE13 support is far zanier than the previous games, so I guess it stands out more as a contrast to the main plot.  The characters in question also are just quirkier and thus more memorable, leading it to more interesting sequences on top of that.  It's kind of a necessity for a game like Fire Emblem with Perma-deaths, to avoid situations of "Wait what if this character died in a previous chapter? They can't participate here!"  FFT is another example in that regard, where whenever someone joins your party, it's sort of the game also going "And they will never get a (required) cut-scene ever again!" 

Supports were pretty much a tool implemented to try and fill the gaping void of character development outside of a core like 4 characters FE Games prior 6 had, with gameplay benefits to give you that extra incentive.  Ok, FE10 supports sucked ass, but they had plenty of fun info Sessions that were functionally supports anyway, so that worked well enough.

Yeah, most of the FEs are structured in a way that doesn't develop many characters outside of supports. The series without supports has some serious problems with memorability of non-mains. I generally like the goofy characters more because holy shit compare this to like FE6 tertiary cast. You could probably fall asleep during Alan and Lance's supports. FE10's 'supports' actually work better than the regular supports because the game can time when you see them rather than having to guess awkwardly at what point you'll see them. In FE13, there was a scene where Sully and Sumia talk about their sex lives and Sully says " W-well, it doesn't matter anyway. My love life's duller than a sack of flour." After, you know, she could be married to Chrom and have a child. I mean, maybe having sex with the hottest dude in Yllise is -that- boring, but maybe you shouldn't confess it to a Chrom fangirl. ;)

I question Djinn's sanity list. Did you not see Frederick/Chrom supports? And Virion's introduction is him stalking a hot lady in the woods, not a paragon of sanity. Sumia on the other hand just loves pie!

Also Oscar being bad makes me sad. :(
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1921 on: August 29, 2013, 06:26:16 PM »
Oscar was always the Savior Of Everything in my games. In general I find cavs underappreciated and myrmydons overappreciated in just about every FE but 4 (where myrmydons really rock and cavaliers are really really bad)

Mother 3 is actually at its core doing the opposite of following Earthbound's footsteps for better and (mostly) for worse, with the heavy handed anti-consumerism message and everything. It is almost apologizing for Earthbound like a 30 year old looking back in horror realizing how shameful and terrible Xenosaga is and burning the CDs.
Anyway the humor hit its low point with the magipsies.

Spelunky Vita: Shiit I've bought this a second time.
Finished with shortcuts.
It's weird how my favourite contemporary games are now Small (/Indie) Games + Dark Souls

Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker: Got lured into buying this because promo.
I had forgotten that I just didn't want to play a standard MGS anymore because of the controls. :(
« Last Edit: August 29, 2013, 07:37:54 PM by Fenrir »

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1922 on: August 29, 2013, 08:39:04 PM »
I question Djinn's sanity list. Did you not see Frederick/Chrom supports? And Virion's introduction is him stalking a hot lady in the woods, not a paragon of sanity. Sumia on the other hand just loves pie!

Also, Miriel not being at the highest echelons of unbalance is questionable in and out of itself. I mean, her gimmick may be one-dimensional, but the heights she reaches in her pursuit of SCIENCE!!!11 are nothing short of absurd (re: Lon'qu support, which isn't even HER MOST UNBALANCED SUPPORT).
[01:08] <Soppy-ReturningToInaba> HEY
[01:08] <Soppy-ReturningToInaba> LAGGY
[01:08] <Soppy-ReturningToInaba> UVIET?!??!?!
[01:08] <Laggy> YA!!!!!!!!!1111111111
[01:08] <Soppy-ReturningToInaba> OMG!!!!
[01:08] <Chulianne> No wonder you're small.
[01:08] <TranceHime> cocks
[01:08] <Laggy> .....

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1923 on: August 29, 2013, 09:24:31 PM »
Miriel-Henry has one of the saucier A-supports too (hope neither one was already married!).  Henry is investigating the nature of curses with Miriel, and notes that they seem to be best at killing stuff, and research on how to create life would seem to be a logical next course of investigation.  HMMMM

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1924 on: August 29, 2013, 09:45:30 PM »
Like those two would even consider it cheating.
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