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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #250 on: January 28, 2013, 04:49:32 AM »
Ni No Kuni:
Finished the first regions (Summerlands North) by kicking the crap out of a giant rat after a sewer dungeon. Some tropes never change. The game is incredibly pretty and there are lots of things to explore. Good times.

Got to the Desert area, which kicked random encounter power up a few (dozen) notches. Good, it needed it. Boss battles are a blast with constant switching. You can't heal with familiars, and Olie-boy is good but you want to conserve his MP to a degree and he takes hits like a girl.

Speaking of, Got a cute blonde in the team by beating "The Embodiment of Being a Total Dick". (Actually a "Void of Kindness", but you get the picture). This game features a lot of emotion moving, wherein you siphon off an excess of virtue in one person to give it to someone else who doesn't have enough of it. FUCKING COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA I SAY!

The plot and characters are nothing special. The individual scenes would have more simple emotional tug if they were voiced more often, but it looks like a lot of things were left out of VA after the first few hours. Sadness. Also the game doesn't leverage it's time too well building up non Oliver/Drippy characters, but I only just now got a second party member so we'll see. The plot does feel very Ghibli with the touchy feely goodness stuff. Little touches here and there (Drippy dancing around in the background with a silly hat during one otherwise over-the-top-emotional scene comes to mind).

PC thoughts so far... Understand that a Human and their familiars all share the same HP/MP. Switching still allows you to get better physical offense/defense/element abuse. Familiars can only fight for so many seconds before they must be switched out for a time. MP healing isn't falling off trees but enemies sometimes drop 'orbs' that restore MP or HP.

Oliver: Spells are powerful and let him keep a distance from physically damaging enemies. Which is good cause homeboy is frail. Also a go-to for HP healing and such via magic. Has POIZN healing which is... actually nice because poison does the G3 thing and interrupts you a bit, which can be fatal if you are trying to keep distance from enemies.

Mitey: Little sword familiar is a tank. Much more defense than anyone else, and puts it to good use taking hits in melee. Unfortunately some enemies smash even him if you try to go toe-to-toe with them.

Lemahl: MOnkey smash. Lacks the defense and offense stat is a bit lower than Mitery has, but makes up for it with attack speed. Not for tanking it out with enemies so much as putting in a bunch of fast/disrupting damage on them.

Forest Fairy: Water spell offers a better Damage/MP ratio than Oliver's stuff. Unfortunately the charge time is worse, so it leaves him more vulnerable. He zips across the battlefield otherwise though, and Evade is cool... Has a short window and a long cooldown, but time it right (not TOO hard) and you negate damage from those telegraphed enemy super-attacks. Defending vs. the things reduces damage by enough usually and is more forgiving on timing, so it's mostly novelty.

Esther's Familiar: Magic damage. Not durable and Esther herself has very little to offer.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #251 on: January 28, 2013, 03:25:14 PM »
Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition: I feel like I am leveling a lot slower then I ought to be. Sidequesting, because Tazok's buddies keeping kicking me in the fork.

Have I mentioned that low level D&D suuuuuucks? This game is currently reminding a lot about why I dislike low end DnD pre 4th. PCs are incredibly fragile, casters are pretty garbage after a very short time, bad luck is pretty much instantly fatal... Current party Main, Kagain, Brawen, Viconia, Neera, Xan. Still shuffling PCs. Might take Kivan for interactions with Viconia and Yeslick for interactions with Kagain? Dunno.

Bayonetta: Grace & Glory have caused me to throw my controller (metaphorically, I'm not paying to replace a controller) in frustration. Strictly speaking, I gave up on the third encounter with them, but after 10+ deaths to the second encounter, I was a little fed up with their bullshit. I am doing something wrong, obviously, but I'll be damned if I'm not going to blame the game.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #252 on: January 28, 2013, 03:41:33 PM »
G&G are total assholes. Learn the (very brief) timing for when you can get a Witch Time dodge on them, and shamelessly abuse the claws/rocket launcher switching glitch.

Edit: Alternately, equip the accessory that gives you an automatic counter instead of Witch Time on a perfect dodge, because it's not affected by "no Witch Time for you, hahahahaha" bullshit.
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« Reply #253 on: January 28, 2013, 05:45:25 PM »
Okay, so this wasn't just me completely sucking? Good to know. Also good to know that I apparently figured out correctly that attacking them without witch time active was pointless.

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« Reply #254 on: January 28, 2013, 05:49:29 PM »
It can help if you get good enough at dodging their inevitable counterattacks on reflex, but it doesn't have what I'd call a fun learning curve.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #255 on: January 28, 2013, 06:05:47 PM »
The problem I have is that I inevitably can't tell when they're locked in a combo and when they are free of that combo and able to rape off 3/4's of my health.

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« Reply #256 on: January 28, 2013, 06:08:14 PM »
They key is to never lock yourself in a combo unless you're in Witch Time. A "properly" played G&G fight without WT includes a a lot of attacking and then dodging after one hit because oh holy fuck one of them moved.

Edit: And just wait until you meet Gracious & Glorious...
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #257 on: January 28, 2013, 08:16:40 PM »
Ah, yes, those two are easily the biggest middle fingers the game can give you.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #258 on: January 28, 2013, 08:40:38 PM »
Are those the white/silver variant that deny witch-time or something?

I dunno, it was always the dogs that pissed me off most.

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« Reply #259 on: January 29, 2013, 12:46:17 AM »
Also, o_O at the plot twist re: Granzon. to wit, the Guests helped build Granzon as part of a deal with Earth's military to hand over control of the planet before the Balmar could arrive and take over, but Brian and the OG heroes interrupted. That was the Antarctica incident in the first game. Anyway, when they designed Granzon, the Guests built in a "singularity," which warps probability around itself. So the constant interdimensional alien monster attacks? Yeah, all Granzon's fault, ever since OG1. And now Shu blew it up, which may or may not actually have consequences. Also, ten to one this was all Euzeth's idea.


It is not the Ultra Man's idea but Zezenan. And it is a scheme that fails in incredibel degree and Zezenan had his face slapped back in the days of SRW4 because of this. Just this time, Shu slapped Zezenan even harder, to our please, as no one likes Zezenan.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #260 on: January 29, 2013, 12:48:51 AM »
Gold Grace and Glory are the bitchiest, I love them.

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« Reply #261 on: January 29, 2013, 01:00:27 AM »
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« Reply #262 on: January 29, 2013, 02:54:34 AM »
Reading some SRWK draft logs on Serenes Forest sparked some interest in me in dusting off the all-female run I had stalled on a few years back. Checking my save file, I was on stage 18A... which is to say, I was already past that scary Godannar base defense stage that always looked intimidating during the planning stages. What the heck, let's give this a shot. Note this is a replay (fourth run, in total), in case you're wondering why I'm not getting my ass kicked for having such a limited PC roster.

18A: It turns out that Festum grunts tink against the universal Fafner cast barrier, so Kanon could safely hold off the entire initial wave of enemies without Kazuki's help until the main team arrived, upholding the core principles of this playthrough. Core Gunner and Sayaka/Mazinger did about 95% of the work after they arrived because, well, they kick the crap out of the rest of my team to date. <_< Especially with Zoids on the other side of the routesplit.

19-1: Stargazer stage, ahoy. This would look insanely daunting if I didn't know from past experience that only the Windam grunts actually bother to go for the DSSD base. I'm rusty from several years' layoff and couldn't position Stargazer correctly to handle all the enemies near the bottom, but Rainbow Jerk helped it clean up everything with Kotona's L1 chain attack from a skill chip while the rest of my team rushed to handle all the enemies near the right side of screen. The bosses were little more than fodder and swiftly dealt with after the actual lose condition of the stage got settled.

19-2: Big stage for recruits, with pretty much the entire SEED cast joining up by the end and Daiku Maryu finally getting a female pilot so I can use it. Bad planning meant that it had zero upgrades and was badly underlevelled when it first showed up, but I managed to feed it kills on Destiny after it got pulled close on a plot event and later the Minerva, which pretty much got Lulu caught up on levels in two actions. ^_^ Legend Gundam's MAP was the only real enemy threat, but luckily I managed to kill it before it even got a chance to MAP anything.

20: I think this stage had 4 separate waves of reinforcements, which is J-level silly; Akatsuki's MAP got some good use on the one space/moon stage prior to endgame (;_;). I didn't manage to take out either fleeing boss on this stage due to lacking most of the game's heavy hitters, but as I still had 11 million+ after dumping a bunch on the SEED crew + Daiku Maryu + Fei Yen I don't really care much.

21-1: Stupid V-On corridor of tedium, oh how I loathe thee. Core Gunner somehow had 8 move after parts equipped so it did most of the grunt-cleaing on counterattacks, with an assist from Rainbow Jerk since Kotona picked up L2 A-combo sometime around here.

Gameplay on the whole isn't terribly interesting, since a lot of K's mechanics are fundamentally broken and I had enough carryover cash to make even the scrub units uber relative to a first playthrough. Carryover is needed to make scary stages like the base defense missions actually managable, but as a consequence I end up steamrollering the rest of the game. Still, there's some real comedy/novelty value in having the likes of Sayaka as my combat MVPs for once. Hopefully the game will pick up more now that I have something resembling a whole team of units with actual offense, as opposed to only 4 units who could outdamage Build Angel. At the least, it's something besides Picross to kill time while waiting for FE13's release.

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« Reply #263 on: January 29, 2013, 02:56:16 AM »
DMC1 Fresh Hard Mode: FUCK YOU GRIFFON AND YOUR STUPID LIGHTNING AND YOUR *insert more expletives for about 20 pages here*

*AHEM*  Yeah, he's finally gone, and finally beat Mission 9 which was long overdue.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #264 on: January 29, 2013, 04:46:21 PM »
Suikoden Tactics: Woo-hoo, only getting around to this 3 years after I started it! Significantly better view of the Island Nations than Suikoden 4, no surprises there. I really like the Fire Emblem-ness of this game. Only instead of trading around breakable weapons, you're focusing on whether to equip a Rune skillset or a passive-effect Rune. I like how physical runes actually have skillsets now. Canto Extra Move is brokenly good in a game with this much emphasis on Terrain effects. And unlike every other SRPG in existence, the Terrain Effects are actually DL-legal, so it's kind of interesting to think how the PCs translate, despite the game not having enough players apparently.

Kind of surprising, considering just how Fire Emblem-ish the game is....

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« Reply #265 on: January 29, 2013, 05:02:12 PM »
No mention on how ridiculous archers are, I see. If the range wasn't good enough, they more or less ignore height. There's a reason the game only hands you three of them ever.

EDIT: Also, the emphasis on decision-making regarding runes gradually shifts away as your rune slots open. IIRC, rune slots are opened by hitting Skill (Fighters) and Magic (mages) thresholds, which eventually translates into ridiculousness because you're toting both elemental and passive Runes to completely wreck everything. Also, for affinities, healing shifts the balance tides towards Wind and Water to an astounding degree, while Fire and Earth suck. Most of the really good characters also slant heavily towards the first two elements to boot -and- those runes provide ampler panel manipulation than their alternatives.
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« Reply #266 on: January 29, 2013, 05:19:48 PM »
2nd OGs: Okay, stage 44 was challenging, stage 45 is just a dick move. Accurate duel boss fighting a PC who gets one-shotted if hit, with a secret that requires you to go on the attack. And an escort mission where you're defending a battleship that responds to all incoming attacks by trying to dodge. Oy.

Finished the total PITA part, at least, which means EX-Exbein/Igzexbein/Excessbein is go! Now to let loose all the frustration from the first half of the level on Code: Evil.
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« Reply #267 on: January 29, 2013, 05:27:24 PM »
2nd OGs: Okay, stage 44 was challenging, stage 45 is just a dick move. Accurate duel boss fighting a PC who gets one-shotted if hit, with a secret that requires you to go on the attack. And an escort mission where you're defending a battleship that responds to all incoming attacks by trying to dodge. Oy.

That'd work if we were talking about the Mother Vanguard!
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« Reply #268 on: January 29, 2013, 05:33:01 PM »
It's a Ladybird.
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« Reply #269 on: January 29, 2013, 05:36:34 PM »
No mention on how ridiculous archers are, I see. If the range wasn't good enough, they more or less ignore height. There's no good reason the game only hands you three of them ever.

Only Three?  That's 4 too many for that game!  Archers are just too good for their own...good...


And to think Lazlo is even better, though he is an optional, data transfer only character, so he has a right to be.
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« Reply #270 on: January 29, 2013, 05:49:35 PM »
Well yeah. Then, archers also game the panel elements system to a ridiculous degree. Safely stand behind in a hard-to-reach terrain with a bevy of elemental panels of the right element and accrue nutsy numbers, all in a game where there's no restrictions on actions after moving (for all that the system is simple enough that it'd be generally hampering to impose that subtlety. Still, their threat range's still ridiculous, and their move isn't even typically problematic. Pair that up with owls and suddenly you have absurd sniping mobile monstrosities). AND the archers also have their stats in the right places. AND they're plot PCs. Um yeah. They just end up absurd from amassing subtle advantages that translate very well to the system and I even get why the devs didn't pick up on that during testing to a degree. Ignoring height entirely with their shots is absolutely inexcusable, though: shooting straight up a solid bridge and -hitting- is a gross violation of physics (Fire Emblem and shooting arrows through walls, I'm looking at you). Mages are balanced naturally by magic's resource and charging limitations at least, and having to worry more about manipulating panels the wrong way.

EDIT: come to think of it, a huge degree of what makes something good or not in ST comes from subtle synergies between kinks of its system and general characteristics of its given constructs in context (like rune skillset interaction with the panel system and whatnot). The game's balance may not be necessarily -good- (heck, even mediocre), but it's certainly interesting from an analytical standpoint. Maybe that's why I like the game more than it deserves.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #271 on: January 29, 2013, 06:05:46 PM »
I'm trying a plot-mandated + mage-only playthrough. Maxine and Andarc are pretty awesome, despite Fire not being great. But dear god, PABLO! He's just so... terrible. Like Jogurt-terrible.

He's the only Earth Mage in the game apparently, so I'm babying him since I like the idea of painting the battlefield all kinds of colors with magics, but it's difficult. Mage resources are harsh. The playthrough would be pretty much impossible without Seneca and Lazlo (yes I'm using Lazlo, he has a unique magic rune, so he will count as a 'mage' here.)

I miss Kika, though.

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« Reply #272 on: January 29, 2013, 06:13:29 PM »
Elemental thing definitely does play a role.

For example, Fire kind of sucks specifically because it means you can't use, say, Kindness Drops on them or whatever, because OH CRAP, lowered stats and the Seizure effect from the element.  Flipside, Water rules specifically because using said spell yields a stat boost on top of that.


All 3 Archers of course are of workable elements.  Well, Earth is kind of Meh because you can't use Healing Wind, but that's not as detrimental as Fire's flaws because Healing Wind is a back up, not a primary source.  THEN AGAIN, Flare is Water, which is just silly!


And frankly, there's nothing wrong with a little ST hype. Game is good at what it is.  It's no FFT or anything, but it's certainly a decent spin off.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #273 on: January 29, 2013, 06:14:13 PM »
I'm trying a plot-mandated + mage-only playthrough. Maxine and Andarc are pretty awesome, despite Fire not being great. But dear god, PABLO! He's just so... terrible. Like Jogurt-terrible.

He's the only Earth Mage in the game apparently, so I'm babying him since I like the idea of painting the battlefield all kinds of colors with magics, but it's difficult. Mage resources are harsh. The playthrough would be pretty much impossible without Seneca and Lazlo (yes I'm using Lazlo, he has a unique magic rune, so he will count as a 'mage' here.)

I miss Kika, though.

Wait, Kika is -optional-? I thought that only applied for her flunkies (Nalleo, Dario, Sigurd and Hervey)!

For your dynamics, though: at least elemental robes exist for affinity-swapping (though Andarc doesn't really need it: Thunder is pretty mediocre as an affinity, but he and Corselia honestly have little reason to run around together and he is quite capable himself. Thunder Runner is pretty much your best offense anyway until Breath of Ice kicks in). Earth magic is pretty much the boonies in ST, though: Earthquake is hopelessly bad and the rest of the skillset is useless. I also expect neverending Corselia hype eventually, because Water/Flowing Runes are just -loaded- (Breath of Ice is wtfffffffffffffff).
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #274 on: January 29, 2013, 06:21:24 PM »
Heh, apparently the SuikoTacticsLP agrees with my assessment of Pablo:
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The Skeleton's on low health! Maybe with earth terrain and a side attack, Pablo could-

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