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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1850 on: August 20, 2013, 08:46:32 AM »
I'm not even a quarter through the game yet, but even if Alvin's entire plotline revolves around killing babies and kicking puppies, he is not undoing the sheer amount of charisma he's putting forth at this early stage. I'm just really skeptical about this.

I'm okay with a mild amount of spoilers, but now I want to know what happens that could have given Jim such a diametrically opposed view towards Alvin. Can you explain it without spoiling the main plot? Character arc spoilers I don't mind.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1851 on: August 20, 2013, 02:59:17 PM »
Can't go into much detail without main plot spoilarz, so I'll keep it general.  The stuff that makes him dumb has to do with who Alvin is working for, what his motives are, and whether, once you figure out who he is working for and what his motives are, his actions make any sense whatsoever (I am confident that however much you have played you noticed the Alvin has ulterior motives and is working for someone sekrit).  And the party's reaction to it is dumb, which makes the whole thing much worse.  It's just...really forced and overwrought and doesn't need to be.  If they had just pared it back a little it could have been fine, but instead they went overboard with it.  And all of this is compounded by the scene from Jude's plot I mentioned, which I guess is meant to drive home the point that Alvin is not to be trustworthy and chooses a magnificently idiotic way to do so.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1852 on: August 20, 2013, 03:06:58 PM »
Taste.

Payday 2 - Got this from my brother.  It is pretty good guys if you like 4 player coop shooters (I do clearly from how much I dig Warframe) with leveling mechanics.  It is less pick up and play than Warframe and a lot slower paced, but it fits well with the games I play with my family.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1853 on: August 20, 2013, 08:45:51 PM »
Saints Row 4- fucking owns. Uses the phrase "don't you understand? He's sacrificing himself to save the world! It's our only chance to say goodbye!" While that fuckin song from Armageddon plays.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1854 on: August 20, 2013, 10:35:18 PM »
Metal Gear Rising Revengeance: Completed Hard MOde.  Final Boss is a pain in the ass, so I actually went back on Easy mode, played through the prologue and first mission so I can get 5 Nano Pastes, then went back to fight the Final Boss on Hard Mode.  Turns out that's all I needed.

Seriously, Final Boss is typical Metal Gear fare in the sense of "Everything you've learned to this point is useless; use skills you haven't used at all and learn them on the spot! Have fun!"  So blocking and parrying to punish an attack? Nope, not really useful, he has a lot of unblockables.  Hit and run? Nope, he is invincible.  Blade Mode to slice things? Nope, you have one chance or you take 150% damage (I have health of 180%, so yes, often a OHKO if he hits me ONCE before that).  To top it off, they have a QTE related attack...that you have to parry first to get the full effect of.


Seriously, it's a dumbly designed fight and it's after 2 stupid plot fights beforehand with imprecise conditions (the first is "survive for undetermined amount of time", the 2nd is "let him kill you").  A lot of the game I couldn't tell whose insanity it was, Kojima or Kamiya's, but this is clearly a Kojima thing, as DMC, Bayonetta, Okami, etc. don't pull final bosses of those style.  To be fair, MGS3 was pretty good at avoiding that, since while it had the token final duel, they did let you use all your gear, so you didn't have to CQC your way to victory.



THAT ASIDE, the agme was quite good, and worth playing for anyone who is a fan of DMC style action games.  Plot is surprisingly sane and straight forward too for a Metal Gear game.  In short?

Evil Mercenary Crew is stealing Cyborg Brains to make an army of Cyborg Soldiers, Raiden goes to bust heads.  Learns evil politician is part of this group, and is actually trying to start another war because WAR IS GOOD FOR ECONOMY, by faking a terrorist attack.  Raiden slices things until all the bad guys are dead and we move on.
Nothing really outlandish or ridiculous in that regard.  The Ridiculous stuff exists mind you but it's all style, and not related to substance.  They save it for things like Raiden literally flipping over Metal Gears by the blade, thereby defying the laws of physics, jumping across missiles because Fuck You that's why, etc. 

...ok, all that stuff I can label on Kamiya, because it's all DMC/Bayonetta style insanity.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1855 on: August 21, 2013, 12:30:44 AM »
@Grefter my kid plays Warframe if you need another person to play with.  Game seems a little dull from me watching it, but he seems to enjoy it.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1856 on: August 21, 2013, 12:56:37 AM »
Sure, I am on as the obvious username.  Laggy plays as well (as do some others in association), so drop him a bell as well.

Edit - OH and RE: Payday 2.  It would be a pretty good game for that group as well, especially if you can get Super in on it.

There isn't friendly fire, but watching Super get lost in a small map and accidentally setting off alarms before you even get close to the target would be pretty great.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1857 on: August 21, 2013, 03:07:35 AM »
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Haven't had too much trouble till Golgorand, which is beating me down bad.  The team's bad movement skills are really hurting them at this point, and Gafgarion's evasion is giving me fits. Wish I had weapon break for Birgitte.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1858 on: August 21, 2013, 03:19:36 AM »
For Djinn:

Read Jim's spoilers, but the reason Alvin gets a lot of hate is very similar to the reason why Anise gets a lot of hate from TotA players. Inconsistent motivations and a few mindnumbingly stupid actions.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1859 on: August 21, 2013, 03:41:06 AM »
Nothing is as bad as Anise.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1860 on: August 21, 2013, 03:56:26 AM »
Great, things we have established that Anise is worse than:

The Church of Scientology
Hangovers
Eugenics
Genocide
Arson
Murder
Eugene Levy
Rape
Atrocities commited during war
Nanking, The Rape of
Old people asking for tech support help
NSA spying on every electronic communication in the world
Little bits of popcorn stuck in your teeth
Ivan the Terrible
Naive teenagers posting comments on youtube
Uninformed opinions posted on the internet
Xylophone bands

Yeah everything on this list pretty much pales in comparison to a character from a mediocre PS2 era RPG.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1861 on: August 21, 2013, 04:28:37 AM »
@ Djinn

Ehhh, Alvin had already established himself as a massive jerk by that stage/the spoiler scene throughout the game various/different ways in other spoiler scenes and that last scene is just the nail in the coffin for some people. For the characters too since by then some of them pretty much hated him and none of them really trusted him. Like he'd kind of p much burned his bridges by then. To be fair he does try to redeem himself later and even at other times through the game there's stuff he does to help. How much he managed to redeem himself endgame depends on how forgiving a player is and/or how sympathetic of his back story they are. I really liked him early game too DJ, the charisma and stuff like his action scenes where he blows stuff up with his gun, etcs so the team could progress was really cool. I had him rocking his swimwear and shades back then/for a while. Now I have him with earrings and a dog collar because >_>

Actually probably because I liked him early that other stuff bothered me a lot later, and had me going dammit Alvin a lot!~

(not to mention the spoiler scene involved my favorite female character of the game/usual main so yeah, CT RAAGE!~)
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1862 on: August 21, 2013, 04:39:11 AM »
Now I have him with earrings and a dog collar because >_>

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1863 on: August 21, 2013, 02:04:15 PM »
Aviators and hat.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1864 on: August 21, 2013, 09:18:41 PM »
Saint's Row 4-  President Tony Stark performed an exotic dance routine whose formal name is apparently "the Dance of the Wyld Stallyn."  There was an appropriate QTE using the left and right triggers for ass slaps.  Then Keith David and I threw cars at guys and they flew off a bridge.  Game of the Ever.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1865 on: August 23, 2013, 01:34:40 AM »
Great, things we have established that Anise is worse than:

The Church of Scientology
Hangovers
Eugenics
Genocide
Arson
Murder
Eugene Levy
Rape
Atrocities commited during war
Nanking, The Rape of
Old people asking for tech support help
NSA spying on every electronic communication in the world
Little bits of popcorn stuck in your teeth
Ivan the Terrible
Naive teenagers posting comments on youtube
Uninformed opinions posted on the internet
Xylophone bands

Yeah everything on this list pretty much pales in comparison to a character from a mediocre PS2 era RPG.

Because this is Zenny, I can only assume this is in ascending order of terribleness.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1866 on: August 23, 2013, 02:08:50 AM »
Sure. Whatever.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1867 on: August 23, 2013, 10:48:09 AM »
Saint's Row 4-  President Tony Stark performed an exotic dance routine whose formal name is apparently "the Dance of the Wyld Stallyn."  There was an appropriate QTE using the left and right triggers for ass slaps.  Then Keith David and I threw cars at guys and they flew off a bridge.  Game of the Ever.

*Cid checks SR4's cast list*

"Keith David as himself"

I see.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1868 on: August 23, 2013, 04:30:23 PM »
*Cid checks SR4's cast list*

"Keith David as himself"

I see.

SR4 does not shy away from its memes. the most-cited example is probably the voice options when you create your character - Male 1, Male 2, Male 3, Female 1, Female 2, Female 3, and Nolan North.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1869 on: August 23, 2013, 04:33:43 PM »
*Cid checks SR4's cast list*

"Keith David as himself"

I see.

SR4 does not shy away from its memes. the most-cited example is probably the voice options when you create your character - Male 1, Male 2, Male 3, Female 1, Female 2, Female 3, and Nolan North.

The main joke wrt Keith David is that the trailer first just says "Keith David as..."  He played Julius in SR1 so the assumption is that he's returned to the role. But no, he's playing Vice President Keith David.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1870 on: August 23, 2013, 06:03:45 PM »
Divekick: I think I'm maining Redacted, Mr. N or Kick. They rule.
I really don't understand any of these jokes but the game's fun and approachable. Unplayable MP on the Vita via wifi though.



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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1871 on: August 23, 2013, 07:02:43 PM »
That makes a lot of sense.  He's got food and those idiots who keep getting him in trouble finally shut up.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1872 on: August 23, 2013, 07:44:58 PM »
Now go do the Boss Rush with Max Only. It'll be like a Max-only run, only possible.

(seriously, Max is like the coolest person in that cast)

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1873 on: August 23, 2013, 07:52:43 PM »
YEAH!

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #1874 on: August 24, 2013, 04:17:04 AM »
Fire Emblem 12: Had a copy of this on my laptop at work and a whole night of nothing else to do. Decided to give it a replay. The fan translation of this is awesome. I have a new appreciation for the whole Archanean saga of FE games. FE12 made the story and character almost good!

So for my replay I did a Normal/Classic run with Plot-Important-Only Characters. Might as well give them some time to shine. How am I determining what "Plot Important" is in this game with over 70 recruits? Well, the easiest way was "Do they have lines in any other maps besides the one they are introduced in?". This gives me access to a good combination of awesome units (Caeda, Merric) as well as forces me to use some terrible ones (Yubello, Wendell, most of the Prologue PCs). I also generally decided that if they weren't forced into my party, they probably weren't that important to the plot, so I guess they have to die. (Exceptions: Tiki, arguably the most plot important PC outside of Marth; and Katarina, the only -new- character with any plot worth a damn.)

Also, since it's a Plot-Important run, clearly PCs have to stay in their plot-mandated roles. No reclassing. (This is why I did Normal instead of Hard.)

Oh, how liberating it is to slaughter the useless deadweights in this army. It -does- cut me off from some of the best recruits (the Whitewings, a lot of Marth's former army buddies, and a whole heck of a lot of awesome gear attached to sub-par units).  It was a nice balance of challenge and schadenfreude.

Party:
Marth & Avatar: Obviously had to keep these guys. Went with Male Mercenary->Myrmidon Avatar. Named him Robin. I tried to keep them out of the fray too much once I had a full party so they wouldn't take all the challenge out of Normal.

Luke: Yay, a cavalier! Backbone of the earlygame since I was trying not to abuse Marth and Robin. Ended up replacing him with Sirius eventually.
Rody: Yay, he was useful early on, though fell out of favor quickly. Basically replaced him with Cecille as soon as I had enough units.
Cecille: The best. I wore her headband the entire game. Kept her through to the endgame. Was particularly STR and Luck blessed, so she criticaled a lot.
Ryan: Has enough lines, but I didn't feel like he was even close to plot important enough, so I let him stay dead the second time he ran afoul of axes to the face. No bows in my army, dammit!

Linde: My main source of magic damage for basically the entire first half of the game. Got a ridiculous magic growth. Didn't leave her out of a fight until her Aura tome broke. Eventually my main healer too.
Julian: Well, only two options for Thieves, and Julian's actually a decent front-liner. Also, Rickard died a horrible death and it was awesome. Kept Julian the whole game.
Ogma: Not as awesome as I'd hoped. I used him when there was extra space on the field.
Yumina: A healer! Useful! The first plot-mandated one. Staves are awesome in this game. I kept getting free staves from How's Everyone bonuses, so she got to gain a lot of levels. Kinda wasted most of them though. Had crappy magic and never amounted to much when she could mage.
Yubello: The worst. LVP by a wide margin. In a game where there's a few maps that you really need some good mages, Yubello just disappoints all around. Basically dead weight in every map I tried to use him. Eventually let him die so he'd stop hogging my How's Everyone bonuses from my -good- characters.
Sirius: My main Paladin from the moment I got him. He grows slowly, but it doesn't matter. His stats are perfectly timed for a low-PC run like this. Got a decent amount of How's Everyone bonuses on critical maps, too. Eventually gave him the Gradivus and watched the fun.

Caeda: MVP. No surprises. Flight + dat STR growth + Wing Spear surpremacy. After I got her, I literally would field the extra units just to throw them unarmed at the enemy and watch them die since I knew I wouldn't need them anymore.
Wendell: Not good. Better than Yubello! My backup mage for a few maps before Merric joined, then became a secondary Yumina.
Feena: Okay, she doesn't technically fulfill the requirements for Plot Important, but she's a unique unit type and I just like Dancers. Obviously made things a lot easier. Had a decent STR and DEF growth so she was never dead weight in combat either.
Minerva: More fliers, thank god. Minerva was so much help in keeping people from dying all over the place whenever they would miss. Hauteclere is also awesome. It ended up getting Hammerne'd.

Merric: It was cathartic letting him slaughter Elrean straight up then Rescue staffing him to safety. Best mage in the game for me, almost solo'd the desert map.
Xane: A necessary evil. Xane is an experience sponge, but when you need another Caeda, he can't be beat. Only used him on maps where I needed extra fliers or mages.
Tiki: My cheating concession. Ended up with the third-most kills in my army. She is as good as advertised. I liked giving her the How's Everyone bonds and drops to see her stat numbers get to ridiculous levels.
Katarina: Another cheating concession. I basically ended up doing this because I needed more PCs that didn't suck (fuck off Rody and Ryan). Also, I like her character arc with Robin. She made a great mage and staff user.


Characters I sorely missed:
The other pegasus knights: Jesus christ I didn't realize how much I had depended on those guys.
Malicia: I actually kept her around the whole game in case I wanted to use Hammerne. (spoilers: I did.)
Gordin and/or Jeorge: Or basically anyone who could use a bow. I considered letting either of them be considered plot important because there is a disgusting amount of fliers in FE12 and Wind Tomes are harder to come by. Also, the Parthia~!
Navarre: I considered letting him be plot-important, too. For style points. Also because I like Myrmidons and Ogma/Robin didn't always cut it.
Nagi: It would have been nice to actually have a second Tiki on those final maps, but at least she was nice enough to share her Divinestone.

Collecting all the Star Shards was a royal pain in the ass on this run, though. Damn.
Best part of the whole run was getting How's Everyone bonuses... on PCs I actually wanted to USE! Clearly the game was designed for this kind of full-scale ally slaughter. I also tended to enjoy deploying the useless fodder as meatshields for the early turns of some of the harder maps. I know that technically means I 'used' them, but I'm not gonna let that stand in the way of my enjoyment of a game I beat in like 2 days.

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