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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2150 on: September 25, 2013, 04:43:53 AM »
And yet one of the villains literally uses the word "bitch" as a weapon and the male lead exists purely to do things for the female lead.  It's like Suda51 was making fun of genre conventions BUT HE NEVER DOES THAT DOES HE???

Yeah, I know it's one of his schticks, though he isn't involved with the game's writing as far as I understand. This is just kind of the game's niche: it's clearly satirical, keeping in mind one of satire's defining characteristics is shifting so close to the conventions it ridicules it often melds with them. So, the vague unease one'd feel playing the game is pretty much part of the ticket's price.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2151 on: September 26, 2013, 04:32:23 AM »
Pokemon Black: Completed replay.  Final Team was same as what I listed only replaced Sigilyph with Reshiram for final battle because Fire/Dragon.


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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2152 on: September 26, 2013, 06:57:52 AM »
ToX: Clearing out more things before the final.  In a surprise twist I actually learned the FINAL BOSS has the most HP in the game.  But anyway, cleared out the pointless Sub-Events before finishing off the final Devil Beasts.  She-Harpy was nothing resembling a threat because teleporting as your counter is trash.  Electric-ballman was decidedly more deadly for Rowen though.  Poor old guy kept getting one-shotted, all while Jude just laughed and absorbed every single attack.  After that was the Arena.  Group Basic was a breeze, though Group Advanced was pretty painful.  I learned that if an enemy displays 9999 attack in the enemy book it's probably actually higher than that.  I can debuff an enemy's Attack by 40% and it dropped a capped enemies Attack down to 8730.  Anyway after losing a couple life bottles to the semi-finals the final fight goes sadly easy.  Beat the ever-loving shit out of the weakest, then pick'em apart from there.  One of them can't even hurt good old Jude again.  Sure did over 12k worth of damage to Rowen though!  Ironry.

I checked to make sure I could reach Magnus Zero and I can.  Dunno if I'll fight the Servants first or finish off my levels.  Did get the 1,000 Feather Title along the way.  Boooo.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2153 on: September 26, 2013, 09:17:03 AM »
Masoukishin 3- Finally. I couldn't figure out how to get Tyutti's secret weapon because it is so easy..... Either way, now Tyutti's skill set is complete, she shall reign the rest of the game as a unbeatable monster.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2154 on: September 26, 2013, 12:06:06 PM »
Fudo: Remember that elemental resist skills are Linkable (and stack by addition with each other and equips).

So Two folks with Elemental resist skills linked while Rowen has, say, Elemental accessory equipped will tend to negate elemental damage of every type.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2155 on: September 26, 2013, 04:56:45 PM »
Fudo: Remember that elemental resist skills are Linkable (and stack by addition with each other and equips).

So Two folks with Elemental resist skills linked while Rowen has, say, Elemental accessory equipped will tend to negate elemental damage of every type.

Well, yeah but in this case Rowen still had the Dark Seal equipped.  I don't think even his normal resists popped up either but it's all irrelevant.  It's just Jude doesn't need any of the tweaking other characters need since his best armor/helmet resist the same elements while everyone else generally spreads out the resists.  That is why I have the girls all rocking Elemental Circlets for the full resistance set over their "best" helmets.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2156 on: September 26, 2013, 09:54:28 PM »
GTAV - Trevor is Nitori levels of balance here.  He's even Canadian to boot.

Also I got a wanted star by killing a shark in the water with a hunting knife.  Fucking NSA has eyes on those sharks before they put freakin laser beams on them.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2157 on: September 27, 2013, 05:34:39 AM »
FE9:

* Shale punts Chapter 19 into the sun.

After five or six runs I finally work out reliable strategies for distracting the birds, safe spots for the healers, and a way to attract Naesala's attention without him slaughtering anybody...and the boss crits Ike with 2 HP left. Wasted all goddamn night on it and I have to start over again. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-----
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2158 on: September 27, 2013, 06:01:32 AM »
Just checking, but are you aware certain PCs can talk to Naesala to cause him + all the crows to retreat?

Janaff or Ulki with a Full Guard can bait him on turn 1 while shrugging off most of what else the enemies can do, then talk to him. Then put Reyson in his range (but hopefully not too much more) and he'll go talk to Reyson at the start of the next enemy phase, then all the crows will pull back. It's actually not too bad if you pull it off this way, though you still need to watch out for the boss... use someone with good res since the Sonic Sword targets that, and he has both crits/adept procs so you really want to see his base damage down in the single digits before those.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2159 on: September 27, 2013, 06:36:00 AM »
Didn't Chap 19 even have those characters state "Hey, we can talk sense into him" during an info session?
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2160 on: September 27, 2013, 06:52:02 AM »
ToX: Cleared out the Pinkist Sub-Event for uhhh... pride?  How shameful.  Fought the Servants.  My memories even worse than I remember and Rowen just ended up getting planted a good lot of time.  Really this was more like a test for my run against the Golden Mage Knight because they have the highest Def scores next to him.  On my way through Magnus Zero everyone got to 99 yay.

So, my plan going into the GMK was to use Accessories to minimize damage through absorption.  This might have worked if Alvin and Elize were actually capable of doing damage.  But since I didn't feel like wearing through all my Items because they could only chip away a thousand damage each.  So, I changed my strategy.  Alvin has ALL CRITS ALL THE TIME in overlimit, so I'll link him with Jude and just go all Link Artes on the shiny bastard.  Switch out my Elemental resist accessories for Link Gauge Speed+ and start using a combination of Sharpening Pulse into Chaining Alvin's entire set.  This tends to do pretty horrific damage when it hits.  Though the GMK is a slippery bastard and ! Counters like mad.  Though bizarrely his Grave! counter doesn't oneshot me horribly like it did on normal.  So anyway, the fight lasts 13 minutes which is actually probably a record for me.  Still gotta fight him twice more but hopefully I can put some more kills unto Alvin's weapon between them so we can really rake up the pain.  Leia ended up using like 80 Apple Gels in this fight alone.  And it easily could have been more than that.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2161 on: September 27, 2013, 12:41:24 PM »
Just checking, but are you aware certain PCs can talk to Naesala to cause him + all the crows to retreat?


Indeed. I'm going for the Knight Ring you get for not killing any of the crows before doing that, which is part of the problem.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2162 on: September 27, 2013, 03:21:55 PM »
Endless Frontier: So...I jump in a warp and end up what apparently is Not!Japan.  I assume this is the case because there are cherry blossoms everywhere.  Then again, it could also be DC or Newark...

Last Story: Zael and Co. aren't very good at the Metal Gear Solid thing when it comes to the Gurak base.  Then again, that can be blamed on the rookie here.

But more importantly, THIS GAME HAS GIANT ENEMY CRABS. 
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2163 on: September 28, 2013, 02:57:24 AM »
Civ5- Got lots I should be be doing. I'm instead playing Civ.  Cleared the game twice. Once as America on a small map. Second time was a culture victory as India. I didn't go to war or found a second town. I fell behind in technology in a hurry (no shock). The bigger issue was money, I was constantly broke; barely had money to keep a few city states in line.

Also, mercifully I won when I did (1980). The Americans and Russians both had nuclear bombs; the Americans also had all of north and central america. Russia mere had all of europe and Asia to where I was (Almaty area irl).
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2164 on: September 28, 2013, 02:58:32 AM »
Fudo: Grave is earth-elemental. So the reason it isn't overkilling you is because of high earth res.

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« Reply #2165 on: September 28, 2013, 03:14:08 AM »
BG2: I crossed the Shadow Thieves and lived.

Hadn't made a run working for Bodhi before. Glad I did, that was one shiny shiny amulet the boss dropped. Immunity to silence/level drain, and faster casting? Oh my yes. Fight was pretty hilarious. I walk up with bhaalspawn solo because I don't feel like maneuvering the entire team around Maze traps. Lob a bunch of summons through the door, then suddenly wait what is that awful hellgate forming in there--*Priest of Mask - Summons Nabbasu.* Oh god dammit. Run away, run away!

This is a startlingly effective plan. They lose control over their demon and it slaughters Linvail's support instead of me.

Spellholds are yes. Chapter 5 or whatever can be the great sidequestathon, I've got a little sister to rescue. For great leveling parity! Imoen 200k XP behind everyone else upon return, pretty insignificant in the long run. Of course, my weapons kind of suck, which might be a problem going forward. I couldn't even damage the pit fiend in Spellhold without resorting to Melf's Minute Meteor spam. Speaking of, how the hell have I never used this spell before? Stunlocking off of fast attack which for all practical purposes can hit anything. It is fantastic.

So yeah, I--wait a minute, something's wrong here. Where's my cat? That is not my cat!

It seems Hobocat got himself disappeared. He was definitely carried over from BG1, waiting patiently outside my cell in Irenicus's dungeon, didn't have to resummon him or anything! The game just seems to have lost him during a cutscene transition. I'm not sure exactly when...wait, last time I definitively remember him being there was when I was tracking down Boo*...wander around the docks, get transported to the phantom pet shop--!!!Someone kidnapped and sold my cat!!! NoooOOoOOoOOo.

I...haven't tried resummoning him yet. I'm almost afraid to try! I do retain his bonus HP, at least.

(*Yes, Unfinished Business mods are also in place. This is new material to me.)

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2166 on: September 28, 2013, 03:46:52 AM »
Fudo: Grave is earth-elemental. So the reason it isn't overkilling you is because of high earth res.

I should have said Grave-eqsue.  When I was on Normal the Counter was one-shotting me even with Best Equipment and Linked double Resistance Skills.  That put me at 60% Earth Res for Jude.  With the exact same circumstances set up on Unknown I wasn't being one-shotted.

Though typing this made me realize that I was keeping him debuffed with Sharpening Pulse a lot, but still his attack power should still be higher than Normal even while debuffed.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2167 on: September 28, 2013, 07:16:03 PM »
BG2: From Minsc's profile: "Most powerful [foe] vanquished: Saemon Havarian."

Yeeeeeesssssss.

(The narration went on like he got away, but it's no less satisfying an experience for that.)

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2168 on: September 28, 2013, 08:05:24 PM »
Didn't carry over the Devil Arms this run myself.

Just unlocked their full power again though after re-beating the Devil Beasts/re-collecting them all then beating GMK. Not sure how much stuff I would have been able to get my guys to null/absorb because Unknown/double damage/triple crit but I didn't try. Used Leia (Dark Seal), Rowen, Alvin (Affinity Stone), Jude (Risk Ring) Stop Flow/Squall Shot/Shattering Demon Fist time stop combo shenanigans for mad EXPs. Leia jumped from L81 to L96, everyone else levelled up a bunch as well though not quite as much. Though both Elize/Milla ended up one higher level than Rowen despite not being in my active party ;o

Really not much left to do. Might fully max some Devil Arms, blitz the rest of the arena for fun, fight the powered up versions of GMK, get everyone to L99, completely fill out all the Lilium Orbs again ... oh yeah there's some grindy title skill/enemy/food stuff I could do for grade I suppose. Might be time to shelf this game soon though~

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2169 on: September 28, 2013, 11:59:35 PM »
Lollipop Chainsaw - i am twelve and what is this

So far, this is quite shallow, rather easy and very fun. I love the aesthetics of the game and the dialogue is hilarious and jarring in equal measures. Excellent soundtrack too, and even though the game's easy as hell (mostly because Juliet is nutsily good: she's absurdly durable in the context of the game and gets up to seven shots of 50% healing at pretty much any time she wants. Additionally, the Nick powerups are brutally powerful and her combos and support tools, like Chainsaw Blaster and Dash, are quite strong. And don't even let me get started on how awesome her dodge jump is, with ten billion invinco frames), the stage design is entertaining and the boss fights are varied and interesting. Not to mention the BOSSES themselves are -hilarious- so far. I'm about to hit the Fulci Fun Center, which's bound to be a doozy in terms of insanity.
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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2170 on: September 29, 2013, 02:56:51 AM »
Got a PS3 today along with picking up a few games. Among  those games were Demon Souls and Puppeteer. I got frustrated with Demon Souls so I decided to pop in Puppeteer. This game is the best. I've only played through a couple stages, but the game oozes charm. If I  had to compare it to one thing, it would probably be Nightmare Before Christmas or Corpse Bride. It's gorgeously animated and while it's kind of easy if you play through normally, it's already shown that it could be pretty challenging if you wanted to collect all of the souls.

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« Reply #2171 on: September 29, 2013, 07:18:05 AM »
Oppression in History and Video Games: A Rant

In the real world, the tragedy of a lot of the more fanciful executions that occurred was that the claimed charges were false.  Killing witches is bad because there weren't really any witches, so innocent people were getting killed.  However, if we veer into the realm of alternate history, it's important to note that if the charges were true, all of the sudden these actions become a lot more understandable.  If Martha really was cursing her enemies and causing their babies to be stillborn and their crops to fail, that's really bad!  It's not even clear if imprisoning her would stop the magic!  Death becomes a more understandable resort.  In the same way, if a cabal of Jews really did kidnap Christian babies and sacrifice them and eat them, and put young Christian boys on mockeries of Pilate's trial before crucifying them, well, that's murder.  They kind of do deserve to be executed, if this really happened (which it didn't).

Thus, if in your literature or video game, you want to touch on this note - which I heartily endorse, of course - it's important to not make the villains "right", unless you're intentionally doing some grimdark cynicism, or unless you actually play them not as villains but justified.  A positive example: Harry Potter.  The Death Eaters are basically wizard-racial-superiority types, and lots of the Wizarding World basically subscribes to their views that mixed blood is somehow "bad", but they're wrong.  In the actual reality of the setting, there is no difference between normal-human born wizards & witches, mixed bloods, and purebloods.  They all have the same potential "power", morality, etc.  While the HP series villainy has other issues, this part is done correctly - the reader can be frustrated along with Harry & Hermione that "YOU IDIOTS THIS IS STUPID WHY ARE YOU SO HUNG UP ABOUT BLOODLINES."  (A nice tonic to all the many other fictional series where bloodlines actually are super-important, too.  Sure Harry is still a chosen one, but it has nothing to do with his parentage.)

However, I've been playing both Dishonored and more Fire Emblem Awakening lately, and both awkwardly trip this up.  Let's talk Fire Emblem first.  In the first plot arc of the game, we learn that ~10 years before the game starts, the unnamed Exalt who fathered Emm/Chrom/Lissa goes on a crusade against Plegia.  Ylisseans worship Naga, Plegians mostly seem to worship Grima.  The war drains both sides of people until he dies, and 16-year old Emmeryn calls off the war.  Plegia is still cheesed off, though.  The tone in the first 11 chapters is unmistakable: the Exalt was wrong and made a terrible error, earning Ylisse only a bitter enemy.  Okay, a cautionary tale about how once you start a religious war, stopping it is hard; hate lives on, etc.  Fine, solid.  However!  In the third plot arc of the game, we discover that worshipping Grima has the unfortunate side effect of rendering you magically bound to sacrifice yourself for Grima's feast, or something.  Not only that, we are explicitly told that this ritual requires a lot of people, and that Validar had intentionally not sent any Plegians to fight Valm because he needed them all to restore Grima to full power.  (And it's not clear if this ritual also requires the Fire Emblem, but it apparently doesn't, but maybe would have been easier had they also had the real Fire Emblem.  Whatever.)  The consequence of waking Grima up is apparently the end of the world and the extermination of all human life within 15 years or so.  In other words, the kind of fate so terrible it pretty much justifies breaking every single human law or ethical guideline to stop if you value the continuance of humanity at all.  So...  the exalt was right.  If Emmeryn's father had succeeded in his war, and exterminated the Plegians, then the world would not be under threat from Grima!  Did you just provide an in-game reason for genocide to be a good idea?!  This is sickening, and surely not intentional by the writers.  Anyway, freedom of religion does not really apply when someone is worshiping the very real dark dragon who actively wants to destroy humanity, and said worship gives him power.  Blargh.  Any power of the moral from the first arc is undercut by the third arc accidentally saying "actually, the Exalt's only fault was that he failed in defeating the Grimleal, they really do deserve to be attacked and destroyed immediately."

In Dishonored,  we learn that the Overseers, the religion of Dunwall, have big hypocrites for leaders.  Additionally, you got inducted into Team Outsider (very strangely...  since Corvo is silent, rather than a "deal" or contract with him, he just shows up and says "hey, I like you, have a tatoo and magic powers."), and the Overseers hate the Outsider and consider him basically the devil....  and you work against the Overseers somewhat incidentally, you are presumably supposed to be not a huge fan of the Overseers.  The game also wants to be ambivalent about the Outsider, in fairness; you get told in the between-mission loading screens that "The Outsider is neither good nor evil."  In reading logs of things like "interrogation" sessions of Outsider-worshippers, you find that they have magic powers and can do things like possess people, alarming the interregators as the person's spirit flitted from interrogator to interrogator.  Okay, that is kind of terrifying (and you do indeed have a possession power you can buy in-game!).  So...  what's the verdict?  Let's look at the Outsider-affiliated people other than Corvo, who can be played as both "good" and "quasi-evil."
* Granny Rags has an Outsider Shrine.  She wants you to murder some thugs and to get back at the thugs by planting plague goo in their elixir stills, which would cause people who drink their elixir to get sick rather than healthy, or at least make the elixir worthless.  Uh-huh.
* A crazed survivor who'll attack if you enter his apartment has a Shrine near Kaldwin's Bridge.  You can read his journal, where he finds the Whalebone inscribed with the Outsider's mark, becomes obsessed with it and misses going to a job, gets into a fight with his cousin who came by to visit (& help!) him, but picked up the whalebone himself.  And he uh murderered his cousin, and clearly descended further into madness rapidly thereafter, realizing that everyone is thieves coming to take his precious rune.  As a little mini-horror vignette, A+, but I'm not filled with trust for what the Outsider's artifacts do to people.
* The torturer who tortured Corvo for 6 months is an occultist and Outsider worshipper, complete with Outsider magic.  Additionally, the Outsider claims in the above vignette that he ignores Sokolov as he's "not interesting enough" and thinks that the Outsider can be summoned with specific words or phrases.  Which implies that the Outsider powers only come to those whom the Outsider finds interesting, and freely.  So... the torturer is also an interesting dude to the Outsider, just like Corvo.
* Daud & the assassins have Outsider powers, too, and kill various notable people.  Uh huh.

Anyway, I like the plot element, but "neither good nor evil?"  Uh.  It's pretty clear that the Outsider is, at best, someone who enjoys watching humans be horrible to each other, like a Roman emperor watching gladiators go at it.  God of chaos, madness, & assassins and all.  Considering that someone with Outsider powers is an *extremely* dangerous individual who can possess others and flit past defenses (like, uh, the whole freakin' game of Dishonored), I really really can't fault the Overseers wanting to kill them!  Going back to the historical case, this is like "what if the witches in Massachusetts had REAL POWER to kill people."  This is less bad than the FE case, as Dunwall is a more cynical world, but trying to spin this as "neither good nor evil" is a bit much.  Just embrace that a crazy chaos god gave you power, but that doesn't mean Corvo needs to use the power for evil.

Although on that note, I must say I find the "evil" path actually more fitting.  You are an assassin given power by the devil to go around killing people.  Additionally, while the writers seem to think the Empress is sympathetic for some reason, I'm much more cynical of this.  You can't build a quasi-fascist state in 6 months by magic (unless you are Harry Potter Book 7).  The Empress "should" be as bad as the rest of them, these are her advisors after all, but whatever.  Additionally, I'm with the Zero Punctuation review: The decision to make Corvo a mute was a mistake, just as it was for Gordon Freeman.  It sort of works if you play Corvo as the silent deathbringer who just wants revenge and nothing else, similar to how Crono just wants to save the world, of course; hence my preference for the "dark" interpretation of Corvo where he's just another political player getting revenge against those who shoved him out of the way.  The positive Corvo interp suffers, however, but it's clearly intended - the (supposedly trustworthy) Empress speaks highly of Corvo (is he the royal *consort* as well as bodyguard or something?  Who's Emily's dad?).

Okay, I just wanted to randomly rant.  I'm pretty okay with killing Grimleal in FEA or having Overseers oppress Outsider worshippers in Dishonored, yet the games themselves have a more incoherent view on the matter, with sometimes it's okay and sometimes we'll imply it's bad.

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2172 on: September 29, 2013, 07:29:44 AM »
On a lighter note....
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=180986555
Apparently I was supposed to sneak upstairs, read that Waverly Boyle was worried about someone being out to get her, and use that to convince her to talk with me privately ("I know something about the plot against your life.  Come with me downstairs and I'll tell you more.  Surprise it's me.")  However, the designers built in several options, which include following her into the bathroom (!) as she walks around the party.  She even has her own snarky line about the fact you're doing this...  bad choice, miss, you should have just screamed immediately.  Right, close door, then execute.  Somehow the death animation meant she didn't get a scream out as I murdered her anyway.  She ended up the only target I killed rather than non-lethally humiliated, because the non-lethal option was just too creepy - "Hi I don't know you but I love her from afar, pls let me kidnap her and take her far away from here so she can be mind forever."  Doesn't sound very wise regardless, if he's authentically in love with her, he might just let her go or some such.  But Dishonored, like Mass Effect 2, isn't a game that wants you to think about "hey is this plan even plausible."  (Dealing with the Pendelton Bros. had the same issue - "Hi I am a crime lord I will deal with these people in some nebulous non-lethal way trust me.")

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2173 on: September 29, 2013, 07:46:25 AM »
Psychonauts - played through

The game has numerous problems that I'm sure everyone has gone over before. I'll just say that the one I found the worst was the times when the camera would act up, especially since movement seemed to be always linked to the camera instead of having any sort of memory as to where the camera was facing when you started moving. Of course, the instance which is freshest in my mind is how the camera randomly doesn't move at the final jump on the spiral netting, so you suddenly need to compensate for that after it was actually working properly for the rest of the jumps.

Also the horrible times when ladders don't work properly. Especially the one up to the roof of the first peasant's house. That's right, Raz, just try to get off the ladder when you're still several rungs from the top and fall off several times before you'll actually climb it properly. I'm not already sick of having to climb back up here after every failed attempt to get those horrible bird figments.

Still manages to be fairly great despite everything.



I've finally gotten around to setting my PS2 back up and I've found that the modchip (Matrix Infinity, don't remember the version) seems to have died. Turning it on just gives off a black screen, if I go on to reset the system it appears to start up in regular mode. So apparently it should still be possible to run PAL games, but not others. I've tried running a firmware installer CD but it just sits there clicking for a few seconds. Does anyone have any experience in/advice for this sort of situation?

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Re: What Games Are You Playing 2013?
« Reply #2174 on: September 29, 2013, 11:15:14 AM »
A lot of the truly fucked up shit with regards to the Outsider is human fault, not his specifically.  There is canonically very few people with a Mark at a given time.  So many of the problems with practitioners is brought on by crazies worshiping him and him not really caring.  Granny Rags is fucked up though, yes.

The torturer may worship the Outsider and be a practitioner, but he doesn't have a mark.  Outside of those marked there is no real sign that The Outsider even interacts with his worshipers.  They act out to try and get his attention and as Sokolov shows, doing what you think he likes does nothing of the sort.  The actual interaction you see him have with anyone unmarked is actually with Piero.

Saying he is evil I think is missing the point.  He is Pan in a cynical setting (which is pretty cool given that he is far less blatant about everything than The Trickster was in Thief).  He isn't evil so much as completely alien with a delightfully wicked sense of humor (See the Heart).  His worshippers tend to be fucking messes though in the ways that worshiping a being of chaos should be.

I stand by in both Thief and Dishonored that while the Hammer and Overseers are understandable, their representation as generally being pretty wrong is accurate.
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