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Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« on: April 26, 2013, 12:56:04 PM »

Virgil>Chris
X-Death>Deis
Ted>Lucia
Rashidi>Ness

Rosa>Geddoe
Liete>Haschel
Velhart>Debonair
Elc>Izlude

Kyra>Venusaur
Blastoise>Zylo>Snow
Mia>Grey
Cagnazzo>Mullen

Marcus>Chaz
Rico>Brey
Cyan>Tsai
Jean>Hawkeye

Godlike:

Sephiroth (FF7) vs Yunalesca (FFX)
Chaos (FF1) vs Psaro (DQ4)
Virgil (XS) vs X-Death (FF5)
Ted (S4) vs Rashidi (OB)

Heavy:

Decus (SO2) vs Seed (S2)
Rofel (FFT) vs Maya (WA3)
Rosa (FF4) vs Liete (G1)
Velhart (AtLC) vs Elc (AtLC)

Middle:

Beowulf (FFT) vs Rauny (OB)
Gallows (WA3) vs Fiora (FE7)
Kyra (PS4) vs Blastoise (PKMN)
Mia (GS) vs Cagnazzo (FF4)

Light:

Cray (BoF4) vs Garet (GS)
Luna (Lunar:SSSC) vs Wan Fu (S3)
Marcus (FF9) vs Rico (XG)
Cyan (FF6) vs Jean (BoF2)
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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2013, 01:22:59 PM »
Godlike:

Sephiroth (FF7) vs Yunalesca (FFX)- This would definitely go the other way if I allow the draining; dispel counters are not what Seph likes and Yunalesca has a lot more HP.
Chaos (FF1) vs Psaro (DQ4)- Chaos is resistant to all of Psaro's damage. I also am leaning towards allowing Chaos reasonably free usage of Cure 4 as well, not that it matters here.
Virgil (XS) vs X-Death (FF5)- I have next to no X-Death respect.
Ted (S4) vs Rashidi (OB)- Rashidi is immune to dark magic. Silent Lake won't work even if Ted lives to get a turn, Wind Shot and Life Drain pierce the world card.

Heavy:

Decus (SO2) vs Seed (S2)- God. I think I see Decus surviving five physicals from Seed, if barely. This was closer than I expected. Even with Seed's HP issues, he nicely spoils Decus's offense.
Rofel (FFT) vs Maya (WA3)- Maya's last form was strictly physical. Think Rofel can handle that.
Rosa (FF4) vs Liete (G1)- Wall or status.


Middle:

Beowulf (FFT) vs Rauny (OB)- Okay, yeah. I undersold Rauny as a magic spoiler. She has 40% magical evasion and is 30% resistant to status on top of it. That kind of magical avoidance makes Magic Sword a bad joke. Can he outslug with his physical? Mm, maybe. Beo's best off going with Rune/Crystal/Crystal/White Robe here. *Calcs* Rauny just 3HKOs Beowulf with her physical if he goes with a White Robe. Beo wins if he gets Rauny to miss with her physical, but he also has to avoid a 4-3 as well. Doesn't seem too likely.

Beo is a Heavy, but he absolutely hates high magic defense/evasion combos. See: his loss in the DL in S18 to Fiora.

Gallows (WA3) vs Fiora (FE7)
Kyra (PS4) vs Blastoise (PKMN)
Mia (GS) vs Cagnazzo (FF4)- Mia should not slug down a boss in Middle, ever. Cagnazzo is not a titan of the division, however.

Light:

Cray (BoF4) vs Garet (GS)- Goes first and has magic damage.Cray's HP makes this interesting, but he probably doesn't have enough time to slug through Garet's own respectable durability.
Luna (Lunar:SSSC) vs Wan Fu (S3)- Wan Fuoff, more like.
Marcus (FF9) vs Rico (XG)- Marcus's reign of terror ends now.
Cyan (FF6) vs Jean (BoF2)- Jean is slow, really slow. He's not slower than Cleave.
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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2013, 05:33:23 PM »
Sephiroth (FF7) vs Yunalesca (FFX) - Sephy misses the 2HKO on 'lesca by a hair. Too bad she also only 3HKOs (counters don't change this) and he's faster.
Chaos (FF1) vs Psaro (DQ4) - Crack is relevant in Godlike again, for the love of God.
Luis Virgil (XS) vs Exdeath (FF5) - fweem
Ted (S4) vs Rashidi (OB) - Rashidi 2HKOs and gets two swings off before Ted gets a turn. Dark immunity is irrelevant.

Decus (SO2) vs Seed (S2) - Seed walls fire? Yeah, this works, then. Decus eats a 3HKO and needs to one-shot himself.
Rofel Wodring (FFT) vs Maya Schroedinger (WA3) - Rofel's inability to dodge Calamity Jane is telling and he's just average speed. With his non-Mighty Sword damage, he... actually lets Maya ram two Calamity Janes up his ass, and there's no way I see him living through near 2x ITE PC HP worth of damage, physical or not.
Rosa Farrel (FF4) vs Liete (G1) - I'm pretty sure Rosa is faster than Enclose Liete. Berserk => toodles.
Velhart (AtLC) vs Elc (AtLC) - No Rule of Lutz?

Beowulf Kadmus (FFT) vs Rauny Vinzalf (OB) - Basically a fight of who gets to be picked apart by Fiora next week. I definitely buy super's rundown, though.
Gallows Carradine (WA3) vs Fiora (FE7) - Oh wow.
Kyra Tierney (PS4) vs Blastoise (PKMN) - rofl

Luna (Lunar:SSSC) vs Wan Fu (S3) - Wan FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Marcus (FF9) vs Rico Banderas (XG) - Fuck any scaling of Marcus that makes him anything more than fodder like he is in-game.
Cyan Garamonde (FF6) vs Ekaru Hoppe du Jean (BoF2) - CLEAVE SPEED HYPE AW YEAH
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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2013, 05:38:24 PM »
I could have prodded Meeple into a third vote if it mattered, but the winner of Velhart/Debonair is getting munched by Elc regardless.

E: Fiora vs Rauny is a fails on so many levels, not least because I think Rauny is best off using Thunder Flare in spite of Fiora's DEF/MDEF split. That is a Wilme/Malak level failoff.
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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2013, 05:50:24 PM »
Alternatively, Dhyer votes get tripled in power for AtL3 matches.
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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2013, 05:53:15 PM »
:-* Hey snow, the middle downgrade pool could feature: Rena, Twaikin, Zylo, and Mullen!
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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2013, 05:56:31 PM »


Everybody downgrades and you get set on fire.

EDIT: And Rauny -is- better off running Thunder Flare, she avoids getting munched alive by counters that way. Pathetically, I'm not sure that -matters-.
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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2013, 06:14:01 PM »
Fiora's got some issues with accuracy there (Rauny evasion+WTA). She can't run a heavier spear due to AS loss, she can't risk  getting doubled.
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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2013, 06:24:57 PM »
She could always run a SLIM SPEAR, and I think at least an Iron Spear wouldn't get her doubled (and it'd be a net win over an Iron Sword/comparable to a Killing Edge before crits). Not sure I'd see her hitting a WTD when Rauny's running magic either, though I'd definitely see it against the physicals.
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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2013, 07:38:26 PM »
Godlike:
Sephiroth (FF7) vs Yunalesca (FFX)
Chaos (FF1) vs Psaro (DQ4)

Heavy:

Decus (SO2) vs Seed (S2)
Rofel (FFT) vs Maya (WA3)
Rosa (FF4) vs Liete (G1)
Velhart (AtLC) vs Elc (AtLC)

Middle:

Gallows (WA3) vs Fiora (FE7)
Kyra (PS4) vs Blastoise (PKMN)
Mia (GS) vs Cagnazzo (FF4) - what the hell

Light:

Cray (BoF4) vs Garet (GS)
Marcus (FF9) vs Rico (XG) - superior damage and durability in this slapfight of fodder sissies.
Cyan (FF6) vs Jean (BoF2)

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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2013, 08:31:14 PM »
Godlike:

Sephiroth (FF7) vs Yunalesca (FFX)
Ted (S4) vs Rashidi (OB)

Heavy:

Decus (SO2) vs Seed (S2)- Later
Rofel (FFT) vs Maya (WA3)
Rosa (FF4) vs Liete (G1)
Velhart (AtLC) vs Elc (AtLC)

Middle:

Beowulf (FFT) vs Rauny (OB)- Beowulf has magic evade, enough 2HKO to avoid being 2HKOed anyways, and Paralyze is still turn 2 here. She can 3-2, but she'll 3HKO and he'll evade 1 and get her instead. That's not even getting into if he chooses to halve Lightning as some HP cost
Gallows (WA3) vs Fiora (FE7)
Kyra (PS4) vs Blastoise (PKMN)
Mia (GS) vs Cagnazzo (FF4)

Light:

Cray (BoF4) vs Garet (GS)- Magma Armor...but Cray can't block Stun. So I think Garet sees it through anyways. If Stun is 3 turns, Garet is a clearly Middle off 95% status.
Luna (Lunar:SSSC) vs Wan Fu (S3)
Marcus (FF9) vs Rico (XG)
Cyan (FF6) vs Jean (BoF2)
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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2013, 08:58:23 PM »
Paralysis sucks here, it lasts less than two of Beowulf's turns -and- it doesn't shut off evade either. Rule of thumb is turn two status that lasts less than two turns = eeeeeeeeeeeeeeew, on average you don't make up for the time you waste trying to land it. Rauny also has good accuracy, which dampens the magic evade some as well (and in this case, she just resorts to the borderline 3-4HKO physical instead because Beo pdur is now closer to sketchy and Aegis p.evade is trash).
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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2013, 09:18:31 PM »
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Beowulf (FFT) vs Rauny (OB)- Beowulf has magic evade, enough 2HKO to avoid being 2HKOed anyways, and Paralyze is still turn 2 here. She can 3-2, but she'll 3HKO and he'll evade 1 and get her instead. That's not even getting into if he chooses to halve Lightning as some HP cost

Rauny is using her physical against Beowulf for precisely that reason.  FFT status smacks against both straight up status defense  (faith) and magic evasion, so it's like turn not a factor here. He's better off trying to slug her down.
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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2013, 11:43:10 PM »
Godlike:

Sephiroth (FF7) vs Yunalesca (FFX): Faster, more damage.
Chaos (FF1) vs Psaro (DQ4): Edit: Psaro had no ITD attacks. Well then.
Virgil (XS) vs X-Death (FF5): I think he outslugs.
Ted (S4) vs Rashidi (OB)

Heavy:

Decus (SO2) vs Seed (S2): Walls fire? Well.
Rofel (FFT) vs Maya (WA3): Doesn't die when looked at funny.
Rosa (FF4) vs Liete (G1): Liete had status immunity right?
Velhart (AtLC) vs Elc (AtLC): Invincible -> Extract. Repeat a few times.

Middle:

Beowulf (FFT) vs Rauny (OB)
Gallows (WA3) vs Fiora (FE7): I don't think Fiora's damage (3HKO) is good enough here. Gallows gets around the counters. Edit: Gallows' healing sucks worse than I thought!
Kyra (PS4) vs Blastoise (PKMN)
Mia (GS) vs Cagnazzo (FF4)

Light:

Cray (BoF4) vs Garet (GS)
Luna (Lunar:SSSC) vs Wan Fu (S3): Healing, buffing.
Marcus (FF9) vs Rico (XG): Better (?)
Cyan (FF6) vs Jean (BoF2): Damnable frog.
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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2013, 12:11:13 AM »
Gallows (WA3) vs Fiora (FE7): I don't think Fiora's damage (3HKO) is good enough here. Gallows gets around the counters.

How does he avoid Javelin counters again and why does it matter? He expends 25 FP to make his magic GT (which also hits both his damage and durability), his healing doesn't outpace her damage and his own damage honestly kinda sucks, especially against Fiora Res. 22% healing is absolutely horrible, it only serves to beat 7-8HKO wonders like Twaikin. The physicals are a lost cause with his accuracy to boot.
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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2013, 12:49:13 AM »
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Chaos (FF1) vs Psaro (DQ4): Chaos doesn't have the time here, Cure4 is OPB.

Psaro has fire, ice, and physical damage. Chaos has really high physical defense and knocks down fire/ice damage by 70%. Psaro has serious issues making any kind of damage stick here.

E: PC form smokes Chaos real bad, but I don't think anyone votes on that.
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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2013, 01:43:58 AM »
Psaro had a critical hit attached to his physical that was ITD, no?

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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2013, 01:47:19 AM »
All crits in DQ4 are ITD. The odds of enemies activating it, outside of very few specific people, is pretty much lulz.
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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2013, 01:54:34 AM »
I must be mixing up DQ bosses or something. Been a while on DQ4.

I didn't recall that Gallows' healing was that bad. And Javelins do counter but don't do much more damage than a Killer Lance would (also tanks her evade to the point where Gallows can hit her better). Her RES is a lot better than I thought though. Guess she has that pretty well in hand.


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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2013, 02:31:07 AM »
I've never seen Psaro crit. Usually only very specific DQ bosses do that. Rank Sir Leopold oh wait we did.


Godlike:

Sephiroth (FF7) vs Yunalesca (FFX): 4HKOs faster, I think, pretty much.
Chaos (FF1) vs Psaro (DQ4): Unless you put arbitrary restrictions on both Crack and Cure 4, and even then one having NE magic and the other doesn't given the way the two fight is a big deal.
Virgil (XS) vs X-Death (FF5): Unsure. Final Exdeath obviously gets crushed but I think I vote on Castle now? Anyway, they have pretty similar HP and Exdeath has generally better damage, but Virgil has that blocking and melee immunity. I think Exdeath one-shots the first form, then Virgil doubleturns and Eternal Storms twice. Exdeath gets off one doubleact of Fire 3 which... one of them runs into blocking so the overall damage is a hair over average PC? Mm, think I see Virgil as better than that against magic. Close... weirdly gets less close if Virgil doesn't double until the second turn, as Exdeath above half HP doesn't scare him at all (ohnoes ZOMBIE BREATH).

Heavy:

Decus (SO2) vs Seed (S2): Kneejerk. He can possibly afford the turn to Silent Lake, too.
Rofel (FFT) vs Maya (WA3): Rofel's probably around 60% PCHP to me, which isn't enough to survive two Calamity Janes even with his pdur. And that's assuming she isn't faster.
Rosa (FF4) vs Liete (G1): Sure, I'll kneejerk the FF4 speed spread as small.

Middle:

Gallows (WA3) vs Fiora (FE7): Um.
Kyra (PS4) vs Blastoise (PKMN): On the list of things not needed, lightning damage!

Light:

Luna (Lunar:SSSC) vs Wan Fu (S3)
Marcus (FF9) vs Rico (XG): Defence, apparently.
Cyan (FF6) vs Jean (BoF2): Uh Jean isn't even as slow as Retort, let alone Cleave.

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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2013, 02:37:20 AM »
Eternal Storm activates at around 80% Doppelwogel HP, remember. At least, testing him at full HP for over half an hour never got me to see Eternal Storm.
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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2013, 05:12:21 AM »
Paralysis sucks here, it lasts less than two of Beowulf's turns -and- it doesn't shut off evade either. Rule of thumb is turn two status that lasts less than two turns = eeeeeeeeeeeeeeew, on average you don't make up for the time you waste trying to land it. Rauny also has good accuracy, which dampens the magic evade some as well (and in this case, she just resorts to the borderline 3-4HKO physical instead because Beo pdur is now closer to sketchy and Aegis p.evade is trash).

Paralysis is out, but I guess Stone is still turn 2 barely. Not sure I'm giving Rauny double credit unless there are status spells that check both her magic evade and status resistance in game (defender's check and all that).

Beowulf doesn't need both Magic Evade and Thunder Halving; magic evade alone is good enough likely. Rauny also has to watch for the Life Drain/Shock combo, although that is hilariously close. Rauny does just under 30% to Beowulf and Beowulf's Life Drain heals just under 20% of his HP against Rauny

Rauny: Attack (Normal, Beowulf at 70.5%)
Beowulf: Life Drain (Miss)
Rauny: Attack (Beowulf at 41%)
Beowulf: Life Drain (Hits, She just misses the 3-2s, Rauny at 75%, Beowulf at 60.6%)
Rauny: Attack (Beowulf at 31.1%)
Rauny: Attack (Beowulf at 1.5%). So using the basic physical strategy doesn't work too well. She can certainly give up this turn, but Beowulf kills her at the 31.1% HP left, so that doesn't really work.
Beowulf: Shock

What could help Rauny is that the average hit rate could be like 75% and therefore the average damage should be lower for OB? Of course, I guess Beowulf could just hit her turn one (154 damage) and then Shock her his second turn (230 damage with the physical attack. If she's using the magic and doing even more damage, this becomes less extreme. This kills 91% HP by the topic, which is a even slightly high to me because no Bracer, uses HP-consumption attack for Worker 8, etc...).

She could use Lightning and not attack turn 2 and hope to 3HKO him and have him not evade an attack. But this is feeling really spotty. She needs to use Lightning, not have Beowulf choose to resist in a random guessing game of what to pick (and since she can't use both the Lightning and physical and Beowulf's strategy's trump her's here, she really needs to guess right. After all, Lightning halving and physical evade also ruins both at once), still needs to hit all 3 times, and needs both of her potential status evasion calls to be checked.
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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2013, 11:21:37 PM »
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Sephiroth (FF7) vs Yunalesca (FFX)
Chaos (FF1) vs Psaro (DQ4)
Virgil (XS) vs X-Death (FF5)
Ted (S4) vs Rashidi (OB)

Heavy
Decus (SO2) vs Seed (S2)
Rofel (FFT) vs Maya (WA3)
Rosa (FF4) vs Liete (G1)

Middle
Beowulf (FFT) vs Rauny (OB)
Gallows (WA3) vs Fiora (FE7)
Kyra (PS4) vs Blastoise (PKMN)

Light
Luna (Lunar:SSSC) vs Wan Fu (S3)
Marcus (FF9) vs Rico (XG)
Cyan (FF6) vs Jean (BoF2)

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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2013, 01:53:12 PM »
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Re: Redoing an old season: S18 W3. Cyan shoots first.
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2013, 07:12:03 PM »
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Sephiroth (FF7) vs Yunalesca (FFX)- This would definitely go the other way if I allow the draining; dispel counters are not what Seph likes and Yunalesca has a lot more HP.
Chaos (FF1) vs Psaro (DQ4)- Chaos is resistant to all of Psaro's damage. I also am leaning towards allowing Chaos reasonably free usage of Cure 4 as well, not that it matters here.
Virgil (XS) vs X-Death (FF5)- I have next to no X-Death respect.
Ted (S4) vs Rashidi (OB)- Rashidi is immune to dark magic. Silent Lake won't work even if Ted lives to get a turn, Wind Shot and Life Drain pierce the world card.

Heavy:

Decus (SO2) vs Seed (S2)- God. I think I see Decus surviving five physicals from Seed, if barely. This was closer than I expected. Even with Seed's HP issues, he nicely spoils Decus's offense.
Rofel (FFT) vs Maya (WA3)- Maya's last form was strictly physical. Think Rofel can handle that.
Rosa (FF4) vs Liete (G1)- Wall or status.


Middle:

Beowulf (FFT) vs Rauny (OB)- Okay, yeah. I undersold Rauny as a magic spoiler. She has 40% magical evasion and is 30% resistant to status on top of it. That kind of magical avoidance makes Magic Sword a bad joke. Can he outslug with his physical? Mm, maybe. Beo's best off going with Rune/Crystal/Crystal/White Robe here. *Calcs* Rauny just 3HKOs Beowulf with her physical if he goes with a White Robe. Beo wins if he gets Rauny to miss with her physical, but he also has to avoid a 4-3 as well. Doesn't seem too likely.

Beo is a Heavy, but he absolutely hates high magic defense/evasion combos. See: his loss in the DL in S18 to Fiora.

Gallows (WA3) vs Fiora (FE7)
Kyra (PS4) vs Blastoise (PKMN)
Mia (GS) vs Cagnazzo (FF4)- FF4DS Cags.

Light:

Cray (BoF4) vs Garet (GS)- Goes first and has magic damage.Cray's HP makes this interesting, but he probably doesn't have enough time to slug through Garet's own respectable durability.
Luna (Lunar:SSSC) vs Wan Fu (S3)- Wan Fuoff, more like.
Marcus (FF9) vs Rico (XG)- Marcus's reign of terror ends now.
Cyan (FF6) vs Jean (BoF2)- Jean is slow, really slow. He's not slower than Cleave.