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PG Finals Middle: IQ not a requirement for the finalists, apparently.
« on: October 23, 2013, 08:02:59 PM »
1. Wain: 37-17

Esuna: 23-21
Chrom: 19-33

I am using nothing but middle champions for opponents. Vote on the listed form please!

Noa (LoL1) vs Venusaur (PKMN)
Noa vs Nina (BoF4)
Noa vs Justin (G1)
Noa vs Izlude (FFT)
Noa vs Tiamat (FF1)
Noa vs Margulis (XS)
Noa vs Momo (BoF3)
Noa vs Elena (G2)
Noa vs Arnaud (WA4)
Noa vs Zalbard (SF2)
Noa vs Silmeria (VP2)
Noa vs Nash (Lunar1)

Wain (Lufia 3) vs Venusaur (PKMN)
Wain vs Nina (BoF4)
Wain vs Justin (G1)
Wain vs Izlude (FFT)
Wain vs Tiamat (FF1)
Wain vs Margulis (XS)
Wain vs Momo (BoF3)
Wain vs Elena (G2)
Wain vs Arnaud (WA4)
Wain vs Zalbard (SF2)
Wain vs Silmeria (VP2)
Wain vs Nash (Lunar1)
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Re: PG Finals Middle: IQ not a requirement for the finalists, apparently.
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2013, 09:10:39 PM »
Noa (LoL1) vs Venusaur (PKMN)- Charm.
Noa vs Nina (BoF4)-Immunes charm and resists wind. Ugly.
Noa vs Justin (G1)- Think I see Grandia confuse blockers getting charm.
Noa vs Izlude (FFT)- Should 2HKO.
Noa vs Tiamat (FF1)- Don't think I see charm working here.
Noa vs Margulis (XS)
Noa vsMomo (BoF3)
Noa vs Elena (G2)- Nightmare staff plus healing.
Noa vs Arnaud (WA4)
Noa vs Zalbard (SF2)- Kneejerk.
Noa vs Silmeria (VP2)- I don't remember VP2 having status blockers.
Noa vs Nash (Lunar1)- Faster.

Wain (Lufia 3) vs Venusaur (PKMN)- Status.
Wain vs Nina (BoF4)- Better in healoffs due to the backended offense.
Wain vs Justin (G1)- ID.
Wain vs Izlude (FFT)- stat breaks are not reliable enough, I don't see the Dual Blade as breakable and straight slugging won't cut it.
Wain vs Tiamat (FF1)
Wain vs Margulis (XS)- Should be able to manage this. Margulis is really, really awful at offense at high health.
Wain vs Momo (BoF3)- Eventual OHKO.
Wain vs Elena (G2)-Status rush.
Wain vs Arnaud (WA4)- ID.
Wain vs Zalbard (SF2)- Don't go after Wain with damage.
Wain vs Silmeria (VP2)- Status.
Wain vs Nash (Lunar1)- Status.

Wain: 6-6
Noa: 4-8
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Re: PG Finals Middle: IQ not a requirement for the finalists, apparently.
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2013, 10:27:25 PM »
Noa (LoL1) vs Venusaur (PKMN): Noa caught a Venusaur!
Noa vs Nina (BoF4): Yeah...
Noa vs Justin (G1): Blocks confuse? Isn't worried about a 2HKO from front-ended damage?
Noa vs Izlude (FFT): 2HKOs first.
Noa vs Tiamat (FF1): Tiamat doesn't resist wind at all? So I guess Noa probably 2HKOs before Tia does.
Noa vs Margulis (XS)
Noa vs Momo (BoF3)
Noa vs Elena (G2)
Noa vs Arnaud (WA4)
Noa vs Zalbard (SF2): KOs first. Zal is frail.
Noa vs Silmeria (VP2):
Noa vs Nash (Lunar1): Pretty close in speed. Her status is 100%, his is 70% or so.

Wain (Lufia 3) vs Venusaur (PKMN)
Wain vs Nina (BoF4)
Wain vs Justin (G1): ID and IA.
Wain vs Izlude (FFT): KOs with something.
Wain vs Tiamat (FF1): Isn't 2HKOd
Wain vs Margulis (XS)
Wain vs Momo (BoF3)
Wain vs Elena (G2)
Wain vs Arnaud (WA4): Illusion -> Whatevs.
Wain vs Zalbard (SF2): Defend-tanks and KOs with something nasty maybe? No that probably doesn't work he isn't fast. Zal physicals hurt bad. Best not to let him get a turn. Not sure a single Dark Sword manages.
Wain vs Silmeria (VP2): Status.
Wain vs Nash (Lunar1): And again.
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Re: PG Finals Middle: IQ not a requirement for the finalists, apparently.
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2013, 02:32:43 AM »
Noa (LoL1) vs Venusaur (PKMN) - ahem
Noa vs Nina (BoF4)
Noa vs Justin (G1)
Noa vs Izlude (FFT) - 2HKOs first.
Noa vs Tiamat (FF1) - Tiamat so amazing against things that hit mdef that she doesn't resist.
Noa vs Momo (BoF3)
Noa vs Elena (G2)
Noa vs Arnaud (WA4)
Noa vs Zalbard (SF2) - I s'pose.
Noa vs Nash (Lunar1) - Faster!

Wain (Lufia 3) vs Venusaur (PKMN)
Wain vs Nina (BoF4)
Wain vs Justin (G1)
Wain vs Izlude (FFT)
Wain vs Tiamat (FF1)
Wain vs Momo (BoF3) - need to check how good a status lock here is
Wain vs Elena (G2) - Probably
Wain vs Arnaud (WA4) - Illusion, Slow Down, Ge Ramtos, all of it stuff Wain hates.
Wain vs Zalbard (SF2) - If I assume Zalbard's physical 2HKOs... yeah sure.  If his doubleact is staggered he just opens with Bolt 2 to avoid seeing anything nasty and goes from there, since I don't think Wain quite OHKOs without some extra IP.
Wain vs Nash (Lunar1)
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Re: PG Finals Middle: IQ not a requirement for the finalists, apparently.
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2013, 01:48:50 PM »
Noa (LoL1) vs Venusaur (PKMN) - Tough Love.
Noa vs Nina Wyndia (BoF4) - Nina is actually a fair deal faster and, with innate Wind resistance, I suppose Noa can't really heal-lock (needing AP and Spirit for full gauges and all, especially considering Nina's modest evade). Barrier and Inspire keep a heal-lock through Queen Twister's threat definitely off bounds.
Noa vs Justin (G1) - Confusion blocking and 2HKOing or IDing, sure. Noa doesn't 2HKO back without Noa's Ark, and she needs to Spirit for that to work.
Noa vs Izlude Tingel (FFT) - Izlude 2HKOs, but so should Noa and she's faster. I really don't respect Izlude durability much these days.
Noa vs Tiamat (FF1) - OHKOs with Queen Twister. Seriously, FF1 boss mdur?
Noa vs Margulis (XS) - Um yeah.
Noa vs Momo (BoF3) - Sleep => million buffing game.
Noa vs Elena (G2) - Similar to Momo, though her sleep isn't as good.
Noa vs Arnaud G. Vasquez (WA4) - Confuse blocker and Illusion, suddenly Noa is a Puny and :arnaud: ensues.
Noa vs Zalbard (SF2) - I don't think Zalbard is THAT frail to be OHKOed.
Noa vs Silmeria (VP2) - Confuse blocker!
Noa vs Nash Rumack (Lunar1) - Faster.
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Re: PG Finals Middle: IQ not a requirement for the finalists, apparently.
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2013, 04:49:16 AM »
Noa (LoL1) vs Venusaur (PKMN)
Noa vs Nina (BoF4)
Noa vs Justin (G1)
Noa vs Izlude (FFT)
Noa vs Tiamat (FF1)
Noa vs Margulis (XS)
Noa vs Momo (BoF3)
Noa vs Elena (G2)
Noa vs Arnaud (WA4)- Kind of a gut reaction, but don't some of the high level artes tend to laugh at evasion? Or was that just the Legaia 2? (Edit)
Noa vs Zalbard (SF2)
Noa vs Silmeria (VP2)
Noa vs Nash (Lunar1)

Wain (Lufia 3) vs Venusaur (PKMN)
Wain vs Nina (BoF4)
Wain vs Justin (G1)
Wain vs Izlude (FFT)
Wain vs Tiamat (FF1)
Wain vs Margulis (XS)
Wain vs Momo (BoF3)- Working under the assumption that BoF 3 statuses don't have great duration
Wain vs Elena (G2)
Wain vs Arnaud (WA4)
Wain vs Zalbard (SF2)- Uh wow, we don't really have enough notes for me to remember here, since both Zalbard's HP and damage are critical factores here
Wain vs Silmeria (VP2)
Wain vs Nash (Lunar1)

Wain 5-6
Noa 4-8 (Hates status immunity especially when paired with healing)
« Last Edit: October 25, 2013, 08:15:56 AM by Dhyerwolf »
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Re: PG Finals Middle: IQ not a requirement for the finalists, apparently.
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2013, 06:54:46 AM »
For your gut reaction: that's just Legaia 2. Legaia 1 arts uniformly suffer against evade.
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Re: PG Finals Middle: IQ not a requirement for the finalists, apparently.
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2013, 04:38:16 PM »
Zal's HP sucks. It's what, 90?  He gets owned hard when you actually sic people on him. Being across a bridge is his only saving grace in-game (along with the zany physical damage and MT damage). None of these things help his durability in the DL.

"COnfuse" in VP2 is more like "Don't Act". It's like what Stun should have been but wasn't because it wore off instantly.

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Re: PG Finals Middle: IQ not a requirement for the finalists, apparently.
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2013, 08:33:21 PM »
Zalbard actually has a pretty good set of support which you have to fight off at the same time as you deal with him, so he deserves significant support credit if you give that out at all. (That said he probably does need a significant amount since his HP is 80, and average damage is probably at least 20? Quite a lot lower than endgame since his Def is just as high as endgame bosses but your atk is much lower and you don't have L4 spells yet... but there's only so much lower it can reasonably go.)
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Re: PG Finals Middle: IQ not a requirement for the finalists, apparently.
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2013, 10:36:14 PM »
Wain: 19-25
Noa: 22-36

Aima: 20-11
Lucina: 34-14

Chloe: 24-10
Nergal: 29-27

Congrats to Chole, Lucina, and Wain.  That middle field was a little tough, as Wain and Noa are both good and struggled there.
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