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Puny Cup: Winners, Round 1
« on: November 28, 2013, 03:28:07 AM »
In the winners bracket, standard DL voting applies.

Thief>Rody
Arietta>Gobi
Seifer>Euram
Paula 3, Boney 2

Tony 4, Healie 2
Mukumuku>Rufus
Frederick>Mariel
Pidgey>Caitua


Red Turnip (Saga) vs Zahhak (S5)
Renault (FE7) vs Jake (FE11)
Chelsea Torn (ToD) vs Chu-Chu (XG)
Shiho (VP1) vs Mustadio Bunanza (FFT)

Sothe (FE9) vs Garland (FF1)
Sancho (FM4) vs Alfred Schroedinger (WA3)
Randolph (Lufia 3) vs Ramus Farmain (Lunar:SSSC)
Gades [Final form] (Lufia 2) vs Jagen (FE11)
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Re: Puny Cup: Winners, Round 1
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2013, 03:34:22 AM »
Red Turnip (Saga) vs Zahhak (S5)- Drop dead, Zahhak.
Chelsea Torn (ToD) vs Chu-Chu (XG)- oh god
Shiho (VP1) vs Mustadio Bunanza (FFT)- You shame Malak, Mustadio.

Sothe (FE9) vs Garland (FF1)- Less pathetic.
Sancho (FM4) vs Alfred Schroedinger (WA3)- Sancho's healing should outrace Alfred's damage.
Randolph (Lufia 3) vs Ramus Farmain (Lunar:SSSC)- I'll listen to arguments, but Ramus has no real way of avoiding a limit. Randolph 3HKOs at worst.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2013, 04:59:12 AM by superaielman »
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Re: Puny Cup: Winners, Round 1
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2013, 04:20:30 AM »
Shiho can block paralyse which I'd certainly see as analogous to Don't Act (see: Beowulf's spell name).

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Re: Puny Cup: Winners, Round 1
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2013, 04:28:06 AM »
Red Turnip (Saga) vs Zahhak (S5)
Renault (FE7) vs Jake (FE11) - oh god Jake res/speed combo
Chelsea Torn (ToD) vs Chu-Chu (XG)
Shiho (VP1) vs Mustadio Bunanza (FFT) - Sure, equip paralysis blocker, Mustadio has *nothing* without that.

Sothe (FE9) vs Garland (FF1) - Kneejerk.
Sancho (FM4) vs Alfred Schroedinger (WA3) - oh wow
Randolph (Lufia 3) vs Ramus Farmain (Lunar:SSSC) - Ramus has half average damage and I consider Randolph's starting Tough Ring, not that this matters since at best Ramus 3HKOs and doesn't 3-2
Gades [Final form] (Lufia 2) vs Jagen (FE11) - doubles probably offset counters well enough here
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Re: Puny Cup: Winners, Round 1
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2013, 04:58:02 AM »
Red Turnip (Saga) vs Zahhak (S5)
Renault (FE7) vs Jake (FE11)
Chelsea Torn (ToD) vs Chu-Chu (XG)
Shiho (VP1) vs Mustadio Bunanza (FFT): Well hell.

Sothe (FE9) vs Garland (FF1): Faaiill-off.
Sancho (FM4) vs Alfred Schroedinger (WA3)
Randolph (Lufia 3) vs Ramus Farmain (Lunar:SSSC): Goes first, 3HKOs isn't killed in 2 Randolph turns.
Gades [Final form] (Lufia 2) vs Jagen (FE11)

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Re: Puny Cup: Winners, Round 1
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2013, 12:59:25 PM »
Red Turnip (Saga) vs Zahhak (S5) - DRAINING SPOILS ZAHHAK'S PARRY GAME
Chelsea Torn (ToD) vs Chu-Chu (XG) - Chu-Chu healing uh kinda leaves Chelsea lost.
Shiho (VP1) vs Mustadio Bunanza (FFT) - Shiho, the terror of Puny.

Sothe (FE9) vs Garland (FF1) - uh I need Garland stats here.
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Re: Puny Cup: Winners, Round 1
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2013, 08:32:01 PM »
Renault (FE7) vs Jake (FE11)
Shiho (VP1) vs Mustadio Bunanza (FFT)
Shiho deals .037 PCHP, so Shiho has a 26HKO.  Gun-Mustadio deals .14 PCHP damage vs .81 PCHP.  So Gunstadio 6HKOs.  Shiho heals every 5 turns BUT Gunstadio is faster than average.  So, um, Gunstadio pulls off a 6HKO with the help of a double?  (11 Speed to 10 average Speed, he's getting 2 doubles in before Shiho kills, maybe 3.)  Am I missing something?

Sothe (FE9) vs Garland (FF1)
From chat yesterday Garland has a high 4HKO (.30 PCHP or so?) that can be adjusted up to a 3HKO based on respect ( if you care about Fighter being in the #1 slot, not being able to heal up from L1->L2 for WM/RM-less parties, etc.).  Doesn't actually matter here, he 2HKOs Sothe either way...  except he also has a princely 75% accuracy, which is ramming into Sothe's 6% evasion (FE9 evasion.jpg), so Garland only connects 2 in a row 48% of the time.  So Garland really has a 3HKO, but Sothe's horrible unpromoted move means he probably goes 2nd in the battle between average speeds.  Does Sothe 4HKO?  Sothe deals .15 PCHP a shot...  possibly a tad more if you throw him a bone for not having forged everyone else +5 weapons in game...  but no, I think Garland is like .80-.90 PCHP (you can two-round him, but 1-rounding him is tricky).  So yeah, going with the kneejerk here.
Gades [Final form] (Lufia 2) vs Jagen (FE11)
Jagen is doubled.

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Re: Puny Cup: Winners, Round 1
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2013, 09:45:38 PM »
0.14 assumes no Bracer/Magic Bracer on people who don't start with one, which isn't something I particularly adhere to these days.  *Granted* Musty could just stick with fists and use a Bracer under my interps, but he gains less damage relative to others that way and needs to keep the Thief Hat if he actually wants to outspeed so *flush*, fists are bad if you don't have Martial Arts.

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Re: Puny Cup: Winners, Round 1
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2013, 12:24:23 AM »
You could also allow Fairy Earrings (kiiinda unique if you squint, only 7 out of the 22 PCs can use them, and I'm generally for tossing mages a bone) which means Shiho heals every 4 turns instead of every 5.

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Re: Puny Cup: Winners, Round 1
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2013, 01:38:06 AM »
Red Turnip (Saga) vs Zahhak (S5): Zahhak.
Renault (FE7) vs Jake (FE11): Hits that Jake mdur.
Shiho (VP1) vs Mustadio Bunanza (FFT): As per my two previous posts.

Sothe (FE9) vs Garland (FF1): See Snowfire. Less certain Garland even misses, not sure how I feel about stacking his miss chance with Sothe's evade.
Gades [Final form] (Lufia 2) vs Jagen (FE11): Surely.

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Re: Puny Cup: Winners, Round 1
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2013, 01:51:28 AM »
Shiho (VP1) vs Mustadio Bunanza (FFT) - What is this I don't even
Sancho (FM4) vs Alfred Schroedinger (WA3) - Sancho somehow having more damage and durability here says everything
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Re: Puny Cup: Winners, Round 1
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2013, 07:32:05 AM »
Renault (FE7) vs Jake (FE11) - What happens when the incredibly resistible force meets the trivially movable object? Apparently, one of them explodes.

Sothe (FE9) vs Garland (FF1)
Randolph (Lufia 3) vs Ramus Farmain (Lunar:SSSC)

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Re: Puny Cup: Winners, Round 1
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2013, 07:01:14 PM »
Red Turnip (Saga) vs Zahhak (S5)
Renault (FE7) vs Jake (FE11)
Chelsea Torn (ToD) vs Chu-Chu (XG)- No vote.
Shiho (VP1) vs Mustadio Bunanza (FFT)

Sothe (FE9) vs Garland (FF1)
Sancho (FM4) vs Alfred Schroedinger (WA3)- No vote.
Randolph (Lufia 3) vs Ramus Farmain (Lunar:SSSC)- No vote.
Gades [Final form] (Lufia 2) vs Jagen (FE11)
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