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« Reply #450 on: March 02, 2015, 04:49:05 AM »
The article's title is really misleading and there's a lot of exaggeration going on here. The studies mentioned show that Himbas' categorical boundaries for defining something as a certain color (as defined by western color boundaries, by the way, which is a huge issue here and renders a lot of the findings kind of uninteresting to me) are different, not that they can't perceive the color at all, which is a horrible misrepresentation of the result. I've gotten pretty sour about crappy science journalism, and there's a way to make this debate interesting without sensationalizing it.

It's plausible that language does have an effect on perception, the question is to what extent. It's possible that someone who learns a lot of names for different colors, like a paint salesman for example, has better than normal color discriminability, but that's a hypothesis that is easily tested.

There is also pushback from this basic theory from other linguists:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Language-Hoax-World-Looks/dp/0199361584

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« Reply #451 on: March 02, 2015, 07:33:12 AM »
Whether or not it's misrepresenting the Himba's perception of blue, I sure as hell did not get the green wheel right.  Even knowing which square is different, and opening it in MS paint to verify which one is different, I still have trouble noticing it's different when staring at the square in question.  (Although interestingly, if I scroll my screen so that only the top 4 squares are visible, then I can see the different green square no problem).

If they spot that square no problem?  Then yeah, that's definitely better than me.

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« Reply #452 on: March 02, 2015, 08:37:35 AM »
The woman who invented monopoly:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/business/behind-monopoly-an-inventor-who-didnt-pass-go.html?smid=tw-nytimes&_r=2

This would be a fascinating game to play considering the extra layer of intrigue it adds on. Too bad it seems like none of the recent recreation attempt hit any steam.
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« Reply #453 on: March 02, 2015, 10:03:47 AM »
Pretty interesting. Colour is definitely cultural; Japanese frequently used (and to some extent still uses, I believe, though one of our Japanese-speakers should weigh in here) the same word for what we would call green and blue. It does make sense that blue, which doesn't occur that often in nature (especially if the sky and ocean are seen as their own, unique colour), would be one of the later words to show up.

Just today I was showing a tourism video to my students and the green recording light was still visible on the screen, and they kept joking about the blue sun 青い太陽 in the sky. Traffic lights are also the same damn shades they are everywhere else, but they refer to the colors as red, yellow, and blue (赤、黄色、青). This is something I really can't wrap my head around at all, especially because they are really picky about distinguishing between teal (水色, water-colored) and blue 青い, and light green (黄緑) and green(緑)  in the schools. I've given up trying to understand it.

Incidentally, all colors can be nouns or adjectives (赤 vs 赤い), but green in particular can only be a noun.

Also for some reason I was able to instantly pick out the green color wheel. I absolutely can't tell the shades apart but something just felt off about that one. Weird. 

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« Reply #454 on: March 02, 2015, 10:48:57 AM »
I could perceive green in that example as well, although that isn't a great picture since it's pretty low quality and there are image artifacts there.

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« Reply #455 on: March 02, 2015, 12:37:38 PM »
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/702422248/adopted-0

"'Adopted''s core mechanics are Sniff, Chew, Bark, and Fetch."

This game is Gone Home But You Are A Dog

or maybe

The Walking Dead But You Are A Dog

yeah I kinda want this kickstarter to succeed

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« Reply #456 on: March 04, 2015, 12:41:20 AM »
As a colorblind person, I choose to believe that this whole "color" thing is an elaborate prank played at my expense.  And the entire world happens to be in on it.

Especially annoying when my wife wants me to get an object.  The first adjective she defaults to is color.  Never mind that there are a dozen other descriptors that more adequately describe it, the color is so fucking important.

Here's a typical conversation had when I'm shopping and on the phone with her:

Wife:  Oh can you get some more soy milk?  We're out.
Me:  Hmm, there's a lot of different kinds and flavors here, which one do you use?
Wife:  Oh, the letters are blue on it.
Me: *facepalm*

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« Reply #457 on: March 04, 2015, 12:48:36 AM »
Do you know what kind of colorblind you are?

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« Reply #458 on: March 04, 2015, 02:09:41 AM »
Officially I'm red-green, although I don't have much trouble with those unless they're faded/pastel-y.  Anything that's close together on the color spectrum could be confused for something next to it, like blue and purple.  But really it's not so much that I don't see color, as I don't notice it/pay attention to it.  Like the little girl in the article who never paid attention to what color the sky was until someone asked her to look at it.

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Re: 2015 Miscellaneous Links: Cat pictures go here
« Reply #459 on: March 04, 2015, 01:15:30 PM »
Haven't read the article, but I've read articles on the subject before. Particularly in reference to how Japanese defines the Blue/Green split. A Green Apple is called a Blue Apple (Aoringo) in Japanese, but even my preschool students find amusement in the fact that it's clearly -Green- (Midori or Kimidori, yellow-green). I don't think there's a lack of perception of various colors, just a shift in how to put a name to it. Japanese as a language split the term "Ao" into words for both "green" and "blue" at a later date on the linguistics timeline than Latin, so it still has older words that use the archaic concept of "Ao" as 'blue/green', such as Blue Apple and Blue Light. I think the same can probably be found in our own language easily enough. "Redhead" is the first example that comes to mind, since in almost all natural cases, the color is actually Orange (and notably Orange is the last primary color to emerge in most languages as its own word, so this is likely an artifact of such).

Off-topic, random Smash Bros 4 vid set to Blinded By Light just kinda got me pumped:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRr6rv54epE

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« Reply #460 on: March 08, 2015, 04:26:54 PM »
http://concurringopinions.com/archives/2015/01/prosecuting-prosecutors-for-perjury-9th-circuit-panel-comes-down-hard-on-lying-prosecutors-issue.html

An interesting event for people concerned with prosecutorial misconduct.  Maybe a flash in a pan, or maybe a catalyst.  Time will tell.  Below is a link to the hearing.  It starts off slow, but the whole thing is worth a listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sCUrhgXjH4
Rocky: you do know what an A-bomb is, right?
Bullwinkle: A-bomb is what some people call our show!
Rocky: I don't think that's very funny...
Bullwinkle: Neither do they, apparently!

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« Reply #461 on: March 10, 2015, 10:48:29 PM »
http://monsterlunch.com/post/102482133537/criterion-announced-it-will-release-the-entire

Covers from the Critereon Collection releases of the Springfield Film Festival.
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« Reply #462 on: March 11, 2015, 08:49:26 PM »
https://www.humblebundle.com/books

Complete collection of Bloom County on offer this week.  Bloom County (especially early) is frequently hilarious for anyone with even a passing interest in politics, journalism, the culture war, or flightless birds.  I highly recommend it.
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« Reply #463 on: March 12, 2015, 04:17:45 PM »
"Sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology."
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« Reply #464 on: March 12, 2015, 04:45:41 PM »
Fucking bummer. I had just recently seen his documentary, Choosing to Die, about assisted suicide and it wrecked me.

http://documentaryheaven.com/terry-pratchett-choosing-to-die/

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« Reply #465 on: March 12, 2015, 06:40:27 PM »
Someone had better solve world hunger soon so that some equal good is restored to the world.
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« Reply #466 on: March 12, 2015, 07:16:56 PM »
Quote from: From his Twitter
AT LAST, SIR TERRY, WE MUST WALK TOGETHER.

Terry took Death’s arm and followed him through the doors and on to the black desert under the endless night.

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« Reply #467 on: March 12, 2015, 07:23:47 PM »
That was absolutely beautiful.
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« Reply #468 on: March 14, 2015, 01:16:35 AM »
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AT LAST, SIR TERRY, WE MUST WALK TOGETHER.

Terry took Death’s arm and followed him through the doors and on to the black desert under the endless night.

The End.

...I am actually crying. Discworld and his other novels meant so much to me growing up. They were the first books I ever had read to me by someone other than a teacher or a parent. My friends and I used to quote dumb lines from his earliest books all throughout highschool. And to this day, I still rely on truisms I learned from his wiser characters.

I was kind of prepared for this already since his failing health has been public knowledge for seven years now, but it still hurts to see him go at such an early age...

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« Reply #469 on: March 14, 2015, 04:08:54 AM »
Actually never read any of his books, but I feel your pain guys.  :(

Any particular place I should start reading his stuff?  Discworld book 1 or something else?  Keep in mind I'm poor atm and won't be buying like 700 books at once.

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« Reply #470 on: March 14, 2015, 05:19:42 AM »
Uh... starting at Colour of Magic isn't bad? There's a few different paths you can take. Most every book is, at least, vaguely standalone, so you could start anywhere and be okayish. But there are character sets, as it were.

There's also a notable tonal difference between the early books (which are pretty much parody) and the later books (which are more satirical).

Aside from the obvious chronological order, you can try these two paths for some of his best books, IME.

Guards, Guards -> Men at Arms -> Feet of Clay -> Jingo -> The Fifth Elephant -> Night Watch -> Thud! -> Snuff

Going Postal -> Making Money -> Raising Steam

EDIT: Writing this made me sad. =(

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« Reply #471 on: March 14, 2015, 06:11:41 AM »
I only just read Night Watch in January, and it worked really well as a standalone book.

I'll probably start going through Andy's order at some point then. It'll just be like when Jacko died. Didn't give a shit about Michael Jackson's music til he died then binge listened to it for months. Didn't really give a damn about Discworld but now that Pratchett has passed on it's time to do so.

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« Reply #472 on: March 14, 2015, 06:28:06 AM »
I haven't read as much Pratchett as Andy, but I can affirm that the City Watch series is some of the best from recommendations from friends who enjoy him.  So yeah, Guards, Guards -> Men At Arms is very solid.  For other stand-alone ones that are pretty good, Reaper Man is technically the 2nd in a mini-series that focuses on Death (Mort -> Reaper Man -> Soul Music), but it's solid.  (Mort is allegedly boring and bad and skippable, never read it; Soul Music is okay, but noooot what I expected nor what I personally wanted.  It's basically a rockumentary novel that is done more straight and less screwball, which is weird, so).

The way I personally read Discworld was by reading the Rincewind books first, which is weird and maybe not recommended, but an interesting chronological cover of Discworld since I got to watch Pratchett's writing jump ahead in quality.  This would be Colour of Magic -> Light Fantastic -> Sourcery -> Eric -> Interesting Times -> The Last Continent.  Light Fantastic & Eric are not actually very good to my recollection but oh well.

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« Reply #473 on: March 14, 2015, 12:04:16 PM »
The run from around Mort to Guards! Guards! is pretty much where Pratchett hits the ground running.  Equal Rites, Mort, Wyrd Sisters and Pyramids are all intersting experiments in him branching out the setting and getting a feel for what he could do.  Guards! Guards is probably the first really good piece in his writing style as well as exploring the possibilities.    Eric is him tying thisup with the plot he had started in the first two books before the series would become what it is.  Everything from there is pretty solid.

If you don't want to dip into the stuff with continuity and characters that carry over then Pyramids, Moving Pictures and Small Gods are all decent (but not great) books from the first quarter of the series if you want to start chronologically early.

I would recommend that if you are planning on doing a deep dive but want to stick within one sub series at a time, otherwise quality whiplash can be a real thing


Aaaand I want to take this chance to hype his other works as well.  Nomes, Johnny Maxwell and Carpet People were all pretty decent young adult books and worth noting as things that exist.  The real gems though in my opinion are Strata and Dark Side of the Sun.  Really early works that predate Discworld and are Space Opera/Sci Fi that are both really good and more on tone than the early Discworld stuff is because he already seems comfortable in his element.  Dark Side of the Sun especially holds a special place in my heart, it is a fantastic book that is completely overshadowed by his later masterpieces.
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« Reply #474 on: March 14, 2015, 03:27:14 PM »
Seconding a lot of other stuff, go me. You can read them chronologically but yeah, you're not necessarily hitting the best introductory material that way. Discworld novels are pretty easily broken up into sub-groups: City Watch stuff, Rincewind the failure wizard, the witches out in the goffic mountain country, Death books, and Moist (which hits on some of the Watch's city-centric stuff in a different way), along with a handful of more or less standalone protagonists.

I'd definitely agree with hitting the Watch first since Sam Vimes is seriously just my favorite goddamn fictional person and the city of Ankh-Morpork is an excellently realized metropolis where most of the best stories happen. Guards! Guards! is a good introduction, then Men At Arms/Feet of Clay/Jingo are all absolutely top shelf Discworld installments.

Death is second preference for me as far as Discworld goes. Mort is the first book in the series that really solidifies the focus transition from genre parody to satirical humanism, Death being, somehow, among the most humane entities in the world and whose off-kilter perspective is always fun to read. I like Mort, Hogfather and Soul Music a great deal, although my extreme bias toward the subject matter of the latter may have some influence here ("They can't stop us. We're on a mission from Glod.") I barely remember Reaper Man despite having read it a couple times, though.

Witches and Moist books are okay? Still entertaining because it's Pratchett, but I find them squarely a tier below the above. Apparently a lot of people are super keen on Moist, but he didn't hit me quite the same way (I haven't read Steam or whatnot yet, though).

Rincewind easily least priority, I'd advise. These are mostly early installments when Pratchett was just finding his feet, and the humor tends to be a lot broader than it is in his best work (but even at his worst, Terry Pratchett was still funny; it's just that, at his best, he was funny while also being the nicest teacher you never had). Interesting Times is probably the best out of these? I may be biased because it's the first Discworld book I read.

As far as standalone Discworld books go, I would actually strongly recommend Small Gods.

Non-Discworld books, Good Omens is absolutely a thing. Nomes are pretty neat too, a very smart guy writing for a young audience without talking down to them. There's some other stuff that I haven't read, dude was super prolific. In light of events, I'm probably due for another full series reread, it's been like five years man.
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