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Grefter · « **Reply #1350 on:** July 21, 2016, 03:19:18 AM »

No he is just human garbage fire RP IRL

Grefter · « **Reply #1351 on:** July 21, 2016, 08:52:10 AM »

http://bust.com/music/16715-viv-albertine.html#.V4-JoJL86rk.twitter

On the one hand, wowwwwwww that is a massive fuck up.

On the other hand this is possibly the greatest outcome for that massive a fuck up.

dunie · « **Reply #1352 on:** July 22, 2016, 08:40:43 PM »

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/munich-mall-shooting-live-updates-8474748

The Duck · « **Reply #1353 on:** July 28, 2016, 08:35:50 PM »

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/28/great-wall-first-look

GREAT WALL with Matt Damon!

NotMiki · « **Reply #1354 on:** August 02, 2016, 11:22:34 PM »

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double every time period in the document.
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done

If you:

same as above, in reverse.

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Dhyerwolf · « **Reply #1355 on:** August 03, 2016, 12:28:26 AM »

From the EW article the Great Wall: "Other than the monster, all aspects of this film are backed by either scientific or historical research."

Considering that this is a film set approximatiely 1000 years ago in China and stars Matt Damon, I'm pretty sure I can name at least one additional aspect of the film that doesn't match scientific or historical research.

Captain K · « **Reply #1356 on:** August 03, 2016, 02:15:35 AM »

Eh, I think it's more that this comes on the heels of #oscarssowhite than being representative of an actual problem. I mean, we had Tom Cruise as a fucking samurai and that turned out to be a great movie that was respectful to its subject matter.

NotMiki · « **Reply #1357 on:** August 03, 2016, 04:31:25 PM »

I get the sense the Chinese movie industry views Great Wall as its coming out party, to prove to the Western market that it can compete toe-to-toe with Hollywood, and they're going to do everything humanly possible to ensure its success, and if that means hiring a white movie star, that's exactly what they're going to do.

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #1358 on:** August 03, 2016, 07:52:23 PM »

More broadly, Hollywood did a pretty good job of selling the association of "Big Budget Blockbuster" and "White Dudes", so if you're building a big blockbuster, even a chinese one, you still need a white dude.

Anthony Edward Stark · « **Reply #1359 on:** August 03, 2016, 10:12:00 PM »

Quote from: NotMiki on August 03, 2016, 04:31:25 PM

I get the sense the Chinese movie industry views Great Wall as its coming out party, to prove to the Western market that it can compete toe-to-toe with Hollywood, and they're going to do everything humanly possible to ensure its success, and if that means hiring a white movie star, that's exactly what they're going to do.

Zhang Yimou wants to draw a lot in the American market. And when they want to draw in the Chinese market they cast a notable Chinese actor so he's just doing the same thing.

NotMiki · « **Reply #1360 on:** August 03, 2016, 11:36:57 PM »

Yep, wouldn't be gross, except it's a historical piece, so it's gross.

(like, Scarlett Johansson in Ghost in the Shell? Not a big deal. When was GitS so inherently about Japan that slapping a popular white actress on it is problematic?)

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #1361 on:** August 04, 2016, 12:03:42 AM »

I feel like we must have watched different Ghost in a Shell movies.

Dhyerwolf · « **Reply #1362 on:** August 04, 2016, 03:11:47 AM »

I understand why they made this decision from a commercial standpoint, but it's still antithetical to the quote I posted! If they wanted half the listed cast to be non-Asian that's fine...just don't say it's a historically accurate representation minus the monsters.

Also, it's been a issue that's long predated #OscarsSoWhite, it's just getting more and more attention now.

Anthony Edward Stark · « **Reply #1363 on:** August 04, 2016, 08:44:00 AM »

Quote from: Dhyerwolf on August 04, 2016, 03:11:47 AM

I understand why they made this decision from a commercial standpoint, but it's still antithetical to the quote I posted! If they wanted half the listed cast to be non-Asian that's fine...just don't say it's a historically accurate representation minus the monsters.

Also, it's been a issue that's long predated #OscarsSoWhite, it's just getting more and more attention now.

It's the Giant Enemy Crab again but Yimou himself said, "I don't care."*

*At some point in his life, probably

dunie · « **Reply #1364 on:** August 04, 2016, 08:31:16 PM »

http://www.reparations.me
art website.

always been for reparatioms, esp. since other groups have received moola. Moot point though, the slavery comnection here is weak except for the twitter aggregate. looks like successful crowdsourcing

NotMiki · « **Reply #1365 on:** August 04, 2016, 08:49:03 PM »

Fascinating.

I'm always super wary of reparations for slavery because I feel like if anything formal ever materialized, it would first of all be inadequate, because it always is, second of all miss the point that the sprawling racism/poverty legacy of slavery is by no means limited to descendants of slaves, and finally act as a finish line for a chunk of the country caring about overt racism. Which is probably a bad thing. Messy, fascinating topic.

dunie · « **Reply #1366 on:** August 04, 2016, 09:01:37 PM »

Yeah, all of that is totally valid. The scope for reparations should certainly take note of your second point. That would be too smart, though, and the country's "wealth" would shift to the south. It would also be totally difficult for many black families, especially, to show their "immigration papers." It is interesting when Japanese Americans, some thousands but not over 100~k receive reparations, even the word was used, to the sum of....google google 1.6billion, but its sheer magnitude in money seems to be the number one issue for afam reparations. I believe we can also think of "non monetary" (hmmm, everything has a figure) options if we could creative, like all state history courses having slavery anchor the economic topics when necessary or ex plantation sites that make money for weddings or something giving most of its proceeds to its surrounding community etc . i think that website steers closer to the race to the finish line. here is its artforum writeup http://artforum.com/news/id=62516

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #1367 on:** August 04, 2016, 09:10:51 PM »

Building on the scope point, I've wondered if breaking the issues of racism down and focusing on more concrete events individually might mitigate some of those problems. For example, starting with red lining and similar practices in the post-war era, which pretty directly and unmistakably denied african americans access to the rapid increase of wealth white americans enjoyed at the time. It has clear start-end dates and relatively easily calculable impact and happened in living memory and lets us directly increase the wealth of people hit hard by racism without being able to claim suddenly that we've "forgiven" original sin. Or at least, that's how I've thought about it.

Luther Lansfeld · « **Reply #1368 on:** August 05, 2016, 05:56:49 AM »

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/05/us/college-protests-alumni-donations.html?_r=0

Old white dudes are mad that colleges are too politically correct/obsessed with racism and donate to college at lowest rates since women were admitted in(lol). Woah, you mean that challenging the status quo takes the piss out of old curmudgeons? One guy decided to spend his donation money handing out pamphlets defending the honor of some guy from the 1800's. Seems like a great use of money bro.

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #1369 on:** August 05, 2016, 06:22:24 AM »

I will say that one of their list of grievances (being really bad at context when judging historical figures) is a legitimate priblem that the broader movement struggles with in my experience. Even then though, it boils down to "Harumph! Why I never!"

Captain K · « **Reply #1370 on:** August 05, 2016, 12:13:16 PM »

I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with Woodrow Wilson. Today's students don't like women's suffrage?

NotMiki · « **Reply #1371 on:** August 05, 2016, 05:27:01 PM »

Quote from: Cmdr_King on August 05, 2016, 06:22:24 AM

I will say that one of their list of grievances (being really bad at context when judging historical figures) is a legitimate priblem that the broader movement struggles with in my experience. Even then though, it boils down to "Harumph! Why I never!"

Yeah, you can survey the college students of the western world for foolish liberal indulgences and you're always going to come up with material. Because college students are made up of late teens and twentysomethings. Not sure why this is surprising to really anyone - my sense of the last few years is that social media is amplifying the extent to which we are hearing about this stuff, and also amplifying a liberal echo chamber that is leading to more of the goofy excesses. All a big "so what?" to me.

Grefter · « **Reply #1372 on:** August 05, 2016, 05:38:21 PM »

mu understanding is that it was much more about his segregation policies. Students not liking so much attending school and spending the majority of their time in a song dedicated to a guy that said you should live apart from and not interact with white people if you are black.

I am for taking people in the context of when they were alive, but I can also see not really wanting to spend 3/4 years doing a major where I worked in a building everyday reminding everyone how great he was.

Shale · « **Reply #1373 on:** August 05, 2016, 06:42:35 PM »

Yeah, Wilson was a huge fucking racist who segregated the federal government en masse.

dunie · « **Reply #1374 on:** August 18, 2016, 06:42:54 AM »

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/18/opinion/is-your-lipstick-bad-for-you.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0

hippydunie is just going to say that makeup is the only product I haven't looked into and made myself; I make my own nut milks, lotion, shampoo, sauces, etc. bc it is far far far cheaper in the longview. I ain't an "ew chemical" person bc I have no clue about these things, but I do know my body's liked them far more. I mean, hey, I barely get out of water looking ashy anymore! baha.

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