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« Reply #375 on: December 04, 2015, 03:54:07 PM »
Mmm...yeah, I guess I shouldn't be surprised to see PSY float to the top for Alex/Grefter.  (It was about middle of the pack for me, but that was with just listening to the audio and not watching the music video at all).

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« Reply #376 on: December 11, 2015, 04:51:21 AM »
Ooh, Christmas Music I actually like; that's actually pretty rare.  Not sure it's the best pick this week, but 15 days till the 25th...yeah, I guess that's not too early for Christmas music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXbwcq6WZ-M
Girls Generation TTS (that's the English version.  Korean version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL34w0xql7s )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U4dJGxSfjI
A-Trak & Zoofunktion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3bnhhx3qE0
祁隆 & 任妙音

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKMqsaRGiE0
Coco Jones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H52v7RuANg
Amberian Dawn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGNk6N26kUU
Smash

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« Reply #377 on: December 11, 2015, 04:55:35 AM »
I will listen on the way home, but Christmas music and me liking it?  The outlook seems bleak.

Girls Generation TTS - I listened to the Korean version.  It is kind of a mish mash of something like your Mariah Carey delivery and other pop lead female vocalists in a Christmas song.  This is not Grefter.

A-Trak & Zoofunktion - this is trashy as fuck and dirty.  I love it.  The Hotline Miamiesque neons feels good man, the track COULD be better, it could just be a Hotline Miami track.  It is still pretty fun to take a standard party track and put a flat as fuck bass beat and beepy as fuck melody.  I want to throw a mad shout out to the thing that autoplayed next Bassjackers & Reez - Rough which I think I like better and it has a music video that makes me nostalgic for watching X-Games back when I was a kid.

祁隆 & 任妙音【又在夢裡見到你】官方完整版 - This song is nice I guess?  It sort of repeats pretty quick.  The guy's scarf is pretty distracting and holy shit that picnic barge is fucking amazing.

Coco Jones - This is a good cover of a good song.  I am listened to the Ella Henderson version afterwards and honestly, the higher production values on the original vs the better delivery on this one still leaves me unable to pick.  This is just solid.

AMBERIAN DAWN  - This is my pick of the week.  Its just like stock Nightwish style Symphonic Metal.  It is also the El Ciddiest thing ever.  Its a symphonic metal track about Ladyhawk and the band members dress like something from an 80s fantasy movie.  If you pause it around 1:07 you can see the band the best.  The dude with the long hair is the greatest thing.  That coat with a vest over the top of it.  The make up.  The hair tied back.  The lace cuffs.  Oh my gods this is the best best best thing. 2:21 lets you see more of their otufits.  Guy with the Goatee has a whole Dread Pirate Roberts thing going on that is hard to notice until you see the pants.  Lead singer in a corset and leather pants is a pretty good choice.  Then the dude just rockin a 'hawk and a sleeveleess jumper (sweet popped collar bro).  That guy is obviously the drummer.

SMASH - LOVERS2LOVERS (Feat. Ridley) - Okay all honesty I typed this up as I went along and was worried that this one would be better than Ladyhawk.  It isn't, but its pretty close.  I think it isn't as good as Coco Jones either, but they are honestly pretty close together.  All  the things that I liked in A-Trak & Zoofunktion did I think this does better pretty much.  The biggest thing holding it back is that the instrumentation type reminds me of Monarchy and Monarchy DOES do it better.

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« Reply #378 on: December 11, 2015, 01:38:10 PM »
Girls Generation - For the first 1:30 I was pretty into this!  Only complaint there was that it could stand to increase the tempo a bit, but otherwise was hitting some nice pleasant areas.  Then LET'S GO, COME ON GIRLS! happened and the song abruptly changed into Hallmark/mall Santa stuff and I lost all interest, blah.  The Korean version is better than the English version for what that's worth.  They're good at singing in both languages, but the lyrical reliance on strong rhyming vowels sounds off in English.

A-Trak and Zoofunktion - This needs to shift the melody sections into a minor key and it would be amazing.  The spin section is amazing anyway, but there's too much clash for me between that and the happy and sincere sound of the melody.  *black eyeshadow mode engage*  As we all know, sincere and straightforward happiness is not my preferred aesthetic. 

Paint Me Like One of Your Chinese Girls, Jack - As Grefter said, the song feels like it repeats quickly and doesn't seem to have a lot to it.  It is okay, but I'm a little surprised it even got to the weekly finals.  To be fully honest though... *racism mode engage???*  I don't like how Chinese sounds in singing, at least not with high pitch female vocals in a song like this.  Just isn't pleasant on my ears.

Coco Jones - Wow, reading Grefter's comments first, I didn't expect to like this as much as I did.  This is really outstanding delivery!  It suits the lyrics, everything clicks well in my brain, and I can feel stage presence even though she's just singing (almost rapping sometimes) in front of a mic.  There have been several similar songs in these lists that I can remember that tried to do what this does and failed; this succeeds very well for me and immediately sells me on "I want to hear this woman sing more!"  I will probably go look up more of her songs after finishing this batch.

Amberian Dawn - Took me until the third loop of this track to even begin writing about it.  I thought Coco Jones was going to be an easy pick and there was no way that "just some Nightwish clone singing about the band" would be on its level.  I was wrong.  There is one thing that I prize in a metal track above all else, and that is sincerity.  Yes, I know I said I didn't like sincere happiness in hardcore three songs ago.  Full and sincere expression of emotion is what makes the metal genre work though.  This right here, this is that sincerity. 

Then there's another thing that I like in creative work in general, and that is being willing to bend some technical rules for stylistic reasons.  These lyrics are very Engrish, there's hardly a line without some butchered grammar, and I LOVE it because it is done on purpose to make the lyrics flow better as sounds.  Usually this comes up when I'm talking about translations, and why I prefer, for example, the PSX translation of FFT to the War of the Lions version.  It's amazing here and binds together the whole aesthetic between the instruments and visuals and lyrics.  I hope the band keeps on doing this and does not listen to the youtube comments crying about how the lyrics are "wrong" and "full of mistakes." 

Also, for maximum MC fanservice, this was in the related videos for some reason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0cQ82ZN6mI

Smash - Yeah this is pretty good too.  As long as we are talking about things I like, I like a deep throbby bassline.  Rest of the song is okay.  There isn't much there besides the bassline and the gay sex, honestly.  It is forward and achieves what it aims for.


Wow.  Last week was full of meh, and then this week we have two absolutely stellar A++ picks.  Not picking Coco Jones is killing me here, and Smash would be great on a slower week too.

Amberian Dawn (barely) >= Coco Jones > Smash > A-Trak > Girls Generation > That Guy's Scarf


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Re: Gauging of interest on music review thingey
« Reply #379 on: December 18, 2015, 04:16:00 AM »
So...I think the number of star wars related songs actually outpaced the number of Christmas related songs this week >_>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioE4bSnh0M4
Olly Murs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j4E7RXpXf4
Joachim Garraud & Chris Willis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vdg-P44aNc
Headhunterz & Crystal Lake vs Reunify

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u5UvnKlCTA
Pentatonix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98e4N1ZhTeg
Halestorm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU8q4eI2E0s
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« Reply #380 on: December 18, 2015, 07:37:04 AM »
I didn't have much to say (mostly just I don't have much to say bit) then my browser at even that.

Halestorm is my pick for the week, sorry for not having much more than that.  I think its a good style that they do well.  I don't like the first three like... pretty much for anything.  Pentatonix is good at The First Noel which is like the second worst kind of Christmas music.  Star Wars track just isn't great to me personally (That got more than one listen?).
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« Reply #381 on: December 18, 2015, 03:54:07 PM »
Mmm...the thing that makes me hesitate about Halestorm is that I remember when the non-acoustic version of this song came up and...didn't win.

I guess that week was a strong week though--flashback to January of this year: http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php/topic,6476.msg171890.html#msg171890

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Star Wars track just isn't great to me personally (That got more than one listen?).

It did, although it was probably in the bottom half this week.  Still managed to hold my attention better than the Sonya Belusova Star Wars meledy ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt20uO4cFYs ) which is...technically profficient, but I was usually just waiting for it to be over by the end (which is a pretty bad sign).

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I don't like the first three like... pretty much for anything.

Hmm...this doesn't surprise me about the first two (both were nearly cut from the top 6 a few times).  Bit surprised the third one Headhunterz & Crystal Lake was scoring near the top for me.  Hmm...well, if I had cut one or both of the first two that I had been thinking about cutting from the top 6, there would be a Lady Baby song in the top 6 instead ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zWwd8n2JVI ).  Not sure if that's even an improvement or not.  I mean, it's metal, and looking at the translated lyrics now it's got a socialist streak, so probably Grefterbait? >_>


Regardless, yeah, still pretty undecided; probably just a weak week (all the good musicians taking a break for the holidays?  Or did I just make poor decisions for the top 6?  Not sure.)

If it helps at all, sure, let's toss in Lady Baby as a 7th option:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zWwd8n2JVI
Lady Baby


EDIT: ALTERNATIVELY -- the thing we usually do when a week has been pretty low quality is just pick the second place song from the previous week which would mean...Coco Jones it looks like (just looking at Grefter and Alex's picks.  mc's pick would probably be Girl's Generation?)
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« Reply #382 on: December 18, 2015, 07:33:49 PM »
Olly Murs - I actually like the sound of this one, even though it's mostly generic it has a nice vibe and good use of pauses and mixing lines.  The lyrics are awful though, and the video aesthetics aren't much better.  Definitely in that category of "listenable, but if this is a week's best, something went wrong."

Joachim Garraud & Chris Willis - Slow burn electronica huh.  Well, I do like that genre, but this track is burning a little too slow for me.  The main beat just isn't strong enough to maintain 7 minutes worth of presence.  Same as above, listenable for me but not a winner.

Headhunterz & stuff - Yeah, same deal again, even though this isn't 7 minutes it still overstays its welcome.  It sticks to one beat without much development, and that beat is just not strong enough for me, so it winds up feeling repetitive and not going anywhere.

Pentatonix - Pentatonix sings a Christmas song.  If you've heard any other Pentatonix cover before, you know exactly what this is going to be before listening to it.  That's not a bad thing per se, but it does make it hard to stand out or talk about the specific performance rather than the original song.  So... the original song is very firmly rooted in Christian religious tradition and... doesn't have much musical interest beyond that.  Scratch up 4 in a row for "didn't dislike it but not a week winner."

Halestorm - I immediately hear "Grefter tones," yeah.  The acoustic + vocal don't mesh that well for me though.  I am not that into the lyrics and I think you have to be into them for this to work.  It does score some points for uniqueness compared to the list though.

The Warp Zone - These aren't the rhymes you're looking for.

Eesh.  Very Weak week, yeah.  Left to those six I'd pick... I don't even know.  I guess Halestorm or Pentatonix. 

LADYBABY - Oh, well, okay.  This is clearly my pick for the week.  3:30 really makes it.  Grinned all the way through, laughed, and even if you take out the jokes the music is pretty all right!  Not incredible or anything but a very serviceable metal/jpop fusion, and "not incredible but fun" actually fits the aesthetic they're aiming for perfectly.  There are a lot of injokes here and I guess it wouldn't be as funny to people who don't know about metal and jpop, but MC column readers probably do, soooo...  Well, in any case it's wayyyyyy better than the other six no matter how you slice it. 

Resurrecting Coco Jones would also be extremely acceptable, I think I might still take her over Ladybaby but that's a close one.  Girls Generation from last week is also still better than this week's non-LADYBABY songs.

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« Reply #383 on: December 19, 2015, 09:09:34 AM »
Decided to resurrect Girl's Generation because...eh, it is literally the week before Christmas.  This is the time to be running Christmas music.

Thematic contextual reasons!

The reason Ladybaby wasn't in the top 6...mmm...I mean it varied between about 3rd and 7th this week.  The growling style of heavy metal does tend to be something I don't really like, so it makes sense that Alex would like the song more than me.  But there's also the part where I think I might find their gimmick actually a little bit offensive.  It kind-of reinforces the whole "crossdressing is humor to laugh at" stereotype, and I'm not entirely sure that's the kind of thing I want to spread.  I don't know, maybe.  I'm not entirely sure how I feel on that issue.

They're a talented group, though, so this will probably come up again.
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« Reply #384 on: December 24, 2015, 03:45:12 AM »

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« Reply #385 on: December 24, 2015, 07:34:06 AM »
Foxes - Generic happy anthem stuff.  Pleasant but predictable and (to me) forgettable.

dickpunks - The video contains the most I've ever seen of street view daily life Korea!  The song is pretty unexciting though.  Buncha basic chords repeating.  I guess it's vaguely Christmasy?

Luca Turilli's RHAPSODY - It's Luca Turilli, you know what you're getting here.  It's big and bombastic and has great production values.  A bit less crazy stuff going on than usual for him, the instruments are kind of subdued, but in return we get a better showcase than usual of his vocal range.  Turilli's voice is really a treat to listen to in this, so much so that I wish the instrumental solos weren't there or were still sung over.  The last two minutes of the video are ads but that's the worst thing I can really say about it.

L.A.R.5 vs. NICCO & Jai Matt - Egggh I can't stand this brand of eurodance or whatever the correct name is.  This doesn't seem like an outstanding example of the genre either, I recognize a lot of the sounds and don't hear anything particularly special or great.

Matty B - I don't know what to say about this.  Found it pretty repetitive and uninteresting... I feel like maybe I'm saying that too much, but ehn, it's true.

Evil Invaders - Nice beat, but very little variation in the instrumentation.  So this rides entirely on how you like the screechy vocals.  I kind of dig it but it's definitely an acquired taste.  Can't really understand what they're singing about though, and the video is impossible to watch and retain eyesight or brain function.  Will rank somewhat highly for me just on novelty but really isn't that good. 

Steam Powered Giraffe - Really nice composition and singing on this, I dig it.  Video adds a lot to the aesthetic, but it's still great with the video off.  Yeah.  Just very very well done.   

iKON - Also a really good song!  Lots of American pop culture references, but unlike most kpop they seem to actually understand what they're referencing here instead of just tossing in random high school football or whatever.  There's a lot of different aesthetics going on, both in the song and the video, and they transition very well and all sound fresh to me.

DJ Fresh & High Contrast - Pretty good.  The aesthetic transitions work less well here though.  I get a 3 AM random TV channel vibe from this, it's cool but I'm not sure it makes sense.  The most interesting part kicks in right at the end and only lasts 10 seconds or so, sad, I would've been down for transitioning again into a second half.


Luca Turilli, Steam Powered Giraffe and iKON form a clear top 3 for me this week, can't go wrong with any of those really.  Personally angling a little bit away from Luca just because he's a frequent flier and usually does the same thing, but it's hard to argue against that production quality.

iKON > SPG > Luca >> DJ Fresh > Evil Invaders >> rest

Regarding Ladybaby, I actually felt they conveyed a positive sentiment about crossdressing, and the humor is in more of an aesthetic mashup than "look at the metal dude in a dress."  Admittedly this does rely some on knowledge of metal culture, where self expression is pretty much the highest virtue, and on taking the view that they are earnest about their own music and expression and mocking of the capitalist and mainstream cultures they sing about, rather than vice versa.  I can definitely see how they could appear otherwise, though - pretty high concentration of "you need to understand the background to get why this is neat."




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« Reply #386 on: December 24, 2015, 12:51:56 PM »
It is late and I had a huge week for a short work week, so only really going to comment on the ones I feel like I have something to say about.  Alex has a pretty decent rundown, lots of overlap.

dickpunks - Watching this I expected them to pull a Prodigy - Smack My Bitch Up film clip twist and it ends up being the POV character is a woman.
Matty B - This felt super super uncomfortable.  I am as far from the target audience as you get.

evil invaders - This is my favourite so far.  It is like speed metal without the speed part?  Its just a fun metal track.

steam powered giraffe - My response to this one is really weird.  So like where Alex says
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Video adds a lot to the aesthetic, but it's still great with the video off.
  I don't disagree other than like the sentiment is kind of the opposite?  I think it works better without the video distracting from the track.  This is frustrating since I am pretty sure last time they were on I babbled a ton about the aesthetic.  It is clear they put a ton of work into it.  It is amazingly put together.  It just ... all the work they put in to hit the uncanny valley makes it really off looking, which clashes with just really great songwriting that they have.

It is easilly better than the evil invaders, but I enjoy metal a lot and well... thats just the mood I am in I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjZkpm7_kRk
ikon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SVlqcTVQdk
DJ Fresh & high contrast

Late on Ladybaby, but I like it.  It is a pretty decent extension on the Kawaii metal thing that Babymetal made a thing.  I don't think its LOLOLOLOL CROSS DRESSING.  I think its just playing it exactly as it has on the surface.   He also has the calves to pull off those knee highs.  Edit - It does show that Zenny missed the train on a trend he could have cashed in on though.
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« Reply #387 on: December 26, 2015, 06:52:32 PM »
Quick note: I'm not going to be at work at all for the next two weeks so ideally think of songs that were snubbed this year?



(Still need to pick out the song for this week; my family insisted on not doing this Christmas day, just got up today)

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« Reply #388 on: January 08, 2016, 05:16:04 AM »
And...while things did slow down through the holidays in terms of quality music, things should start picking up.  I think this week is solid, but some of the pieces are older and just came to my attention now, or remakes/new music videos of songs we've seen before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLf9q36UsBk
taylor swift

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H1QOFBNRWs
dalshabet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lb2BiUC898
Fall Out Boy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOxzG3jjFkY
willy william

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWaRiD5ym74
DNCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMaT2nGaEVg
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« Reply #389 on: January 08, 2016, 12:34:09 PM »
I am posting from Mobile while I am at parents place, so shirt post.

My pick is Willy William.  It is just the most unique track this week.  He video is pretty good as well.  All up easily the most fun I got out of these.

DNCE is second best, mostly just because it is a fun dumb track.

Taylor Swift promises a sorry arc in the opening of the clip.  It suffers from the same things I complain of on the last few tracks.  It starts a premise, then just doesn't evolve it from there.  Then runs it into the ground.  The opening sequence declares She Lost Him, then the song just reap reply asks variations of are we through the rough part of the relationship.

A chapter in Florence and the Machine's Odyssey this is not.


Also a little interested if Blackstar, the new Bowie track got any play.  It is long and weird and mixes a lot of older stranger Bowie style in with some modern Bowie in a 10 minute long haunting track that mixed with the video I have sort of internalized as the burgeoning of Cthulhupop.
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« Reply #390 on: January 09, 2016, 06:47:03 AM »
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Also a little interested if Blackstar, the new Bowie track got any play.

The one that came out in November?  Yeah, it was in the B-range (which means 5-10 listens, but this measurement breaks down a bit for 10 minute long songs.  Might be more clear to say I've spent over an hour's worth of listening on that song).  Certainly one of the contenders from that week.  You told me to pick Kate Miller-Heidke over it though--probably a correct call.  Here's the week for reference:

http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php/topic,6476.msg180706.html#msg180706

(There's also a newer Bowie track from today I think? But it's not as good).
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« Reply #391 on: January 15, 2016, 05:20:34 AM »
OK, this week is a bit more complicated than normal because David Bowie died, and he's all the internet can talk about, so some consideration should be given to picking his song this week, or going back and picking his song from last October.  (Hell, even my mother wrote to me and was like "did you know there is this artist called David Bowie who died, but apparently had a song that came out this week?" and I don't get requests from my mother very often).  That said, it was a  strong week, and Bowie's new song this week didn't come close to making it into my personal top 6, so that's a consideration too.

I'm going to just do a top 5 because there's also going to be some Bowie outside of the top 5 to consider:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVqVwk0rJ64
Lindsey Stirling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKgha_rvnk8
Asura

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPu8zDZxVNc
Tonight Alive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9lPIVozjoE
Vicetone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsR2Q8Esw8Q
Oliver Heldens & Throttle


Aaaaaaaand now for the David Bowie selections--this one is the song from this week, which gets all the bonus points for good timing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-JqH1M4Ya8
David Bowie

and this one is the song from last October which is the Bowie song I personally like more, but we'd be really late on picking it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kszLwBaC4Sw&feature=em-subs_digest-g
David Bowie
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« Reply #392 on: January 15, 2016, 03:06:55 PM »
Okay to preface this, I think all five of the picks are really pretty good, it is a strong week.  I think most of the the time they would all have got like second or third at worst other than Vicetone's track (which on a bad week would still get my pick).

Lindsey Stirling is strong even for her, she gets a real Psycho/Toccata and Fugue vibe going with chorus.  It is a cheesy but fun film clip.

Asura is just a nice chill trance track and is exactly the kind of thing that is fantastic to listen to while you work. It isn't earth shattering but I was confident it would be the best electronic track of the week (I was wrong again).

Tonight Alive is late 90s early 200s numetal as fuck and you know I love that shit.  They also look like thei got their fashion straight out of Bombfunk MCs Freestyler.  I dig it.

Vicetone's is the weekest but is still pretty decent.  It rides on the instrument choices for me, but some bonus points for the anthem at 1 minute dropping into a quick Crescendo before doing a full bass drop at,you guessed it,1:20.

Oliver Heldens and Throttle is my favourite of the five, some of it is the bomb arse video, it's just neat and fun to see so many different kinds of dancing in one clip. It is a nice track.

However, Bowie is my favourite artist of all time.  Not favourite musician. Favourite artist.  He has meant so much to me.when I was very young, Labyrinth was an important touchstone, when I was growing up he was just one of those ever present sort of figures that I knew I should know more of.  I knew that a lot of musicians I liked were big into him (being a Nirvana fan and all), but once I got into Universityi picked up my first Bowie album and was blown away by.  It wasn't one of the original classics everyone loves, although a few isolated tracks picked up in a vacuum like Let's Dance, John I'm Only Dancing and The Pretty Things Are Going to Hell (a key track to the Stigmata soundtrack,put together by Billy Corgan of Smashing Pumpkins fame) did help push me to buy an album, it was Heathen from 2002 that got me obsessed with someone that has been ever present and shaped half my life.  Which is a bit odd given I am me and Bowie has a whole concept album that was written to be a soundtrack to 1984, Man Who Sold The World.

Specifically 5:15 The Angels Have Gone is the track that spoke to me.  It is a wistful song about melancholy and inevitable change of life.  It presents it in a mix of having missed divine beings and the banality of public transit.  Tied together with a really conservative percussion section and that classic wall of sound during the chorus.  I realised that this man with albums from the 60s who had a revival in the 80s and wrote a couple of tracks I liked in the 90s had just 2 years earlier put out so hint completely different to all of those and instead of it being an upbeat dance party track like I knew him for was this deep touching melancholic piece (which is especially great when you are a "deep" teenager/20 something nerd).  It still speaks to me today. At the time I thought Heathen was this big breakout album for him where he was really just doing what h wanted after years of fame seeking. 

I was wrong on both points, Bowie always did whatever the fuck he wanted to do (some of that was fame chasing...) and while I think I was right in that Heathen is the first his success in a series of albums right up to Blackstar that are self reflective easy listening albums that are much more focused on quality songwriting than pushing boundaries, '...hours' from 1999 is a mosh mash of things like Heathen is in entirety and leftovers from Earthling his (underrated and in my supremely biased opinion very successful) 90s dance album really trying to push the boundaries of what electronic party tracks can be (so successful that he did I'm Afraid of Americans off it with Trent Reznor on it).  Regardless though it remains one of the more important albums of his to me and 5:15 The Angels are Gone one of my most important tracks of his.  Neither at his best but they are both very good.

So when David Bowie dies, releases a song named after the man that came back from the dead, the song opens up with "I'm up here in heaven", is about him dying and how he will live on afterwards.  Yes.  That is the track I am going to want to share with everyone, along. With everything else he has written that meant something to me.  That is something off all 25 studio albums. Even the retroactively weirdly stock so undoing self titled first album.

I could spend the next month happily linking different tracks everyday that I am rediscovering and falling in love with while mourning and binging.  The conversations about Running Gun Blues might be a bit weird,but I love it all nonetheless.
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Re: Gauging of interest on music review thingey
« Reply #393 on: January 16, 2016, 04:02:53 AM »
Ok I didn't get to them last night, oops.  Editing in now. 

Lindsey Stirling - Yeah, this is top quality stuff.  Same basic structure as most of her songs, but refined to near perfection.

Asura - Wow, also a nice track.  This is the sort of music I usually like listening to, kind of rare to see it in here!  That said, it's not perfect.  The buildup is too long and slow and the breakdown is too short - the track only starts hitting its stride around 5 minutes in, and then finishes in extended silence shortly thereafter.  Still, very fun soundscape to listen to, and the visuals have some care to them too.

Tonight Alive - Kind of the reverse of Asura, this seems very well produced, but does nothing for me personally.  Very radio-song, in a complimentary way?

Vicetone - Mmmm, nice ideas, pretty standard, not enough low to balance out the high ranges.  Like Grefter says, some nice dynamic choices, still good, just relatively unpolished.  And honestly just too short.  In this genre, where you're playing with samples and effects instead of melody lines and lyrics, it's very difficult to develop enough originality for a track to stand out in under 3 minutes.  Certainly not impossible, but for me this is an example that fails to clear the bar.

Oliver Heldens & Throttle - Another good track, I love the instrument choices and the video.  Carries a strong thematic coherency, makes the listener think of dancing. 

Yeah strong week!  I'd go Lindsey Stirling > Asura > Heldens & Throttle > Tonight Alive > Vicetone out of just these. 

Bowie is at the all time peak of relevance for everyone right now, though.  Lazarus is great, Blackstar is great, 5:15 is my favorite as well (but perhaps that is because Grefter exposed me to it back in the day, complete with passionate raving). 
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Re: Gauging of interest on music review thingey
« Reply #394 on: January 22, 2016, 05:50:42 AM »
With last week so strong, there's always the thought of going back and picking one of those.  Buuut this week is pretty cool too, so probably not.  Finalists:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wiqf6V5iFpY
QUEENSRŸCHE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF6Sxwf9l18
Falconshield

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gjaawxsF14
Van Canto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj2lpQxGKhU
Oceans of Slumber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZSsOEqgm0c
Major Lazer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-ShU1K4Tdc
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« Reply #395 on: January 22, 2016, 12:55:55 PM »

Mobile again, so short response sorry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wiqf6V5iFpY
QUEENSRŸCHE

This gets my vote.  It isn't even the same degree of over the top melodrama we love then for, but I still gotta give Ciatometal.mp3 rep when it comes up. Even without the drama we still have Steam Punk Lady Gaga bleeding oil while a literal fairy tale burns up.  I guess they worked out the break up license issues as well.

This one like the next to is exactly the kind of thing I was listening to in high school and university.  I look forward to there being a new Godsmack album at this rate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF6Sxwf9l18
Falconshield

This is numetal as fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gjaawxsF14
Van Canto

This is early Nightwish with half the talent in writing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj2lpQxGKhU
Oceans of Slumber

I forgot I had listened to his when doing responses.  It is nu metal as fuck as well but better than the LoL one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZSsOEqgm0c
Major Lazer

This is good Major Mazer track and he is consistently great. Better than the next party track.  His samples always feel way less repetitive than your stock party ones.  It's good, but I like Queensryche and Ciatos more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-ShU1K4Tdc
Eric Chase

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« Reply #396 on: January 24, 2016, 01:18:50 PM »
QUEENSRŸCHE - Decent song, really good video.  Ciatometal is right.  Good stuff.

Falconshield - Well... the second half of the music sounds pretty nice?  I can't get over those lyrics, though.  Playing straight into the Joker image comes off poorly, maybe borderline offensive if one is feeling protective of Heath Ledger's memory or DC Comics IP.  Then there are several references, or I assume they're LoL references, that I don't understand.  Then there are lines that are just poorly written and delivered.  "I can see it in your..... eyes?" reminds me of that scene from Shrek with no trace of irony.  Maybe vaguely wraps around to so bad it's funny?  Can't really see non-LoL players getting into this though.

Van Canto - I love the choral work (and it is choral, this is more of a choir with a drumset than a band), it sounds fantastic and presents so many avenues for my ears to explore.  Lyrics are kinda whatever, and the writing trails off in the second half, but those are relatively minor flaws that just bring it down from "instant classic" to "- the strength of the song is all about the composition and delivery, and those are fantastic.  I could listen to this 50 times and probably hear something new each time.

Oceans of Slumber - I found this track background-y, almost boring.  The singer's delivery is melancholy, unexcited, and confined to a narrow range, even in the climaxes, and that doesn't match the energetic music at all.  It's not technically bad, maybe even a conscious choice, but slumber is about right for the final effect.

Major Lazer - Not really my cup of tea, I couldn't get over a dislike of the singer's voice.  As Grefter noted, the musical half is well put together, though I think the vocals dominate it constantly.

Eric Chase - Yeah, party track.  Vocals and composition sound pretty phoned in.  They found some good soundfonts, though.

Got to this too late again, oops, making myself to do them anyway because music is fun and I need to write thoughts on things more.  This is a strange week where I feel like my opinions are very different from MC's and Grefter's, except for everyone liking Queensryche.  The Van Canto is great to me, and would be my pick for the week, but Grefter panned it, and besides that and Queensrhyche the other four songs do not appeal to me at all.  I'd even call Falconshield outright bad - though admittedly it is supposed to be an image song for a character they didn't design, so I can't knock them for the initial aesthetic.  Just for running with it in the lamest possible way.

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« Reply #397 on: January 29, 2016, 04:31:48 AM »
Ahhhh damn, if I had seen Alex's reply before picking last week I would have picked Van Canto.  (For what it's worth, the two songs Grefter liked last week were like...4th and 5th for me; Van Canto was #1, Falconshield was #2 largely on the strength of the Joker imitation voice being super unique and standing out.  But like...I wasn't super attached to anything last week, and was really just crunching a lot at work, so I went with the advice of someone who was getting more sleep than me).

Anyway, this weeks finalists.  Strong week I think, but a lot of these songs might be a miss for Grefter?  We'll see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHVQE67PqHw
Ali Brustofski & HelenaMaria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3VPs9b_HZE
Zendaya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_3HfjNIdGE
Junior J

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdQkAL0h56Q
정인 (jung in)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YJFr4pwwl0
예지 (ye ji)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxPcu7F7gWg
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« Reply #398 on: January 29, 2016, 05:24:02 AM »
Van Canto

This is early Nightwish with half the talent in writing.

Half the talent in writing music or half the talent in writing lyrics? The first is a massive complement to Van Canto, the second is a massive insult!
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« Reply #399 on: January 29, 2016, 09:08:19 AM »
Ali Brustofski - Simple song.  Lyrics don't appeal to me much.  Nice vocals.  Overall feels plain.

Zendaya - High production values, very Disney.  Very, VERY Disney.  I couldn't get into it, too many stretches with too little going on, but production values are high enough that I can totally see it being the pick.

Junior J - I like the xylophone or mellophone or bells or whatever they've got going on.  You know, that instrument.  I'm terrible.  Anyway, that instrument is good, otherwise a pretty basic beat.  Fun, nothing really special but has that hook.

Jung In - Great vocals, good emoting.  Fell a little flat for me because I couldn't quite pick up on what was going on in the video.  But it's mostly about the vocals here, and they are good.  Shame it's running headlong into Zendaya and similar songs this week, though - I think emotive songs like this suffer more than most to getting forced apple to apple comparisons within a week's pack.

Yezi - Korean female rap, huh.  This track is a lot of fun, I like the effects, the attitude, the vocals, and I think the lyrics are based on a multilingual pun? 

Jess Glynne - Basically the same as the Ali Brustofski and Junior J tracks.  Pleasant but standard song centering around a single phrase and simple motif.

Very similar patterns this week.  The AB, JG and Junior J tracks all feel like the same type of song, Zendaya and Jung In are similar to each other as well, and those two are like expanded and slower versions of the other three.  Yezi stands out from the pack, and is the track I enjoyed the most out of these.  Not just for the fact of standing out, but... well, sort of due to that, because the basic pattern of the other five is a pattern that does not personally appeal much to me (and due to that, the week itself doesn't feel that strong.  But that's clearly my taste.)  Out of the rest, Zendaya > Jung In > ... other three.