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Futurama 2014 Season 1, Week 1
« on: March 28, 2014, 06:58:30 AM »
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Reshiram (Pokémon) vs Tetri (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy)
Holly (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Tir McDohl (Suikoden Series)
Persephone (Wild ARMs 5) vs Elc (Arc the Lad II)
Sataniel (Star Ocean: The Last Hope) vs Epsilon (Mega Man X: Command Mission)

Heavy

Mikhail (Romancing SaGa 3) vs Kyra (Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millenium)
Malak Galthana (Laggy Fantasy Tactics) vs Dragonite (Pokémon)
Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV: The After Years) vs Mesarthim (SaGa Frontier)
Syrenne (The Last Story) vs Edgar Roni Figaro (Final Fantasy VI)

Middle

Madchen (Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride) vs Nina (Breath of Fire II)
Cistina Phoraena (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together) vs Ashton Anchors (Star Ocean: The Second Story)
Adell (Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories) vs Yosuke Hanamura (Persona 4)
Liu (Suikoden Tierkreis) vs Dalton (Chrono Trigger)

Light

Cai (Brigandine) vs Anna (Fire Emblem: Awakening)
Tin Man (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Pikachu (Pokémon)
Baybull (Super Robot Taisen J) vs Pierre (Chrono Cross)
Sunset (Live a Live) vs Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV)

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Re: Futurama 2014 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2014, 07:33:47 AM »
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Holly (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Tir McDohl (Suikoden Series)- Good news for Tir is that he can take 2 Holly attacks. The bad news for Tir... is that I suspect that Holly is faster. I mean...always going before Scarecrow definitely implies that she's faster than Tir's 1.38 SD. Her third follow up attack gets him, and he's out of steam then anyways. He'd need to null Fire, not halve here.
Persephone (Wild ARMs 5) vs Elc (Arc the Lad II)- Elc: Liking that charge time

Middle

Cistina Phoraena (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together) vs Ashton Anchors (Star Ocean: The Second Story)- Pdur and free action healing
Adell (Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories) vs Yosuke Hanamura (Persona 4)- Adell hates hates hates even Yosuke's middling healing. That faster Sukukaja also sinks Adell's low accuracy.
Liu (Suikoden Tierkreis) vs Dalton (Chrono Trigger)- Suiko Tiekreis has like 3 DL builds, Liu has the one with healing.

Light

Tin Man (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Pikachu (Pokémon)- OHKO

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Re: Futurama 2014 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2014, 07:35:07 AM »
Godlike

Reshiram (Pokémon) vs Tetri (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy)
Holly (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Tir McDohl (Suikoden Series) - Strong kneejerk.
Persephone (Wild ARMs 5) vs Elc (Arc the Lad II)

Heavy

Mikhail (Romancing SaGa 3) vs Kyra (Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millenium)
Malak Galthana (Laggy Fantasy Tactics) vs Dragonite (Pokémon)

Middle
Liu (Suikoden Tierkreis) vs Dalton (Chrono Trigger)

Light

Cai (Brigandine) vs Anna (Fire Emblem: Awakening)
Tin Man (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Pikachu (Pokémon) - Wrong element, Pikachu.
Baybull (Super Robot Taisen J) vs Pierre (Chrono Cross) - David's got shitty damage and bad durability but the one thing he has is notable evasion, particularly post-Focus, which he has 12 shots of.  This is enough to own Pierre.
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Re: Futurama 2014 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2014, 09:22:00 AM »
Heavy

Syrenne (The Last Story) vs Edgar Roni Figaro (Final Fantasy VI)
Edgar: Wins vs. almost all PCs, loses vs. most Heavy bosses.  As usual.

Middle

Madchen (Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride) vs Nina (Breath of Fire II)
Bounce -> lol.

Cistina Phoraena (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together) vs Ashton Anchors (Star Ocean: The Second Story)
TO splitpath characters!  Anyway, whatever, I'll pretend this is Ravness.  Weird that sword & shield ends up usually superior in the DL, but yeah, Healing infusion turns this fight upside down even if it was a "fair" slugfest without that.

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Re: Futurama 2014 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2014, 01:23:39 PM »
Boo, can't vote on godlike or light.

Heavy

Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV: The After Years) vs Mesarthim (SaGa Frontier)- Kain's tricks are all defensive, which doesn't work against Mes.


Middle

Madchen (Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride) vs Nina (Breath of Fire II)- Bounce. I remember the kids being underleveled when they joined in DQ5, but Madchen's apparently the fastest person in the cast and the next three fastest are wives sooo.
Cistina Phoraena (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together) vs Ashton Anchors (Star Ocean: The Second Story)- I can techinically vote but I have absolutely no memory who the TO person is.
Adell (Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories) vs Yosuke Hanamura (Persona 4)- Evasion/healing.
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Re: Futurama 2014 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2014, 03:21:41 PM »
Holly (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Tir McDohl (Suikoden Series) - Good news for Tir: he can probably tank two Magic Charged Fireballs. Bad news: he's slower and he doesn't have much recourse against Dream Land. He can't live through a full sleep string and she's landing it in three attemps on average -if- you see his mdef affecting her Sleep odds. Otherwise, it's even easier. If you see her living through two Judgments (I don't), this isn't even a question.

Mikhail Ausbach von Loanne (Romancing SaGa 3) vs Kyra Tierney (Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millenium) - Hoooooooooooooooly crap, what a stallfest. This involves factors like ROMANCING SAGA 3 STATUSBLOCKING OPTIONS, PHANTASY STAR 4 SLEEP, STAT DEBUFFING TO VIABILIZE INSTANT DEATH ODDS (since, at base, Kyra reduces Mikhail's match-winning status odds to 0 but they rise once he manages to debuff her speed - which doesn't go through the same stat check process as his status) and possibly even LIFE CANE'S INFINITE HEALING. Dear god, CK.

EDIT: OKAY, let's begin. There's a storebought helm that lowers Mikhail's defenses slightly and grants him sleep immunity (THIS IS IMPORTANT, since PS4 sleep -matters- in long stalling matches). This lowers his speed by 2, so now he's below average speed and Kyra's above. HOWEVER, she's going to run out of offense long before killing a sleep-immune Mikhail (Illusion Sun, Power Heal and the odd Revival Light casting if she gets ahead on damage early all mean she can't purely out-attrition him by force) if she goes for two shields, so she -needs- a weapon... which gets her 2HKOed by Final Letter. So, she also needs to open with Warla. And gives Mikh a turn to open with Illusion Sun. Losing the mdef from a Psy Shield, she also now becomes effectively vulnerable to Midas Hand (since Midas Hands was initially something like 4% accuracy going by PS4's subtraction system). The match just suddenly became a lot shorter. Buuuuuuuut she's still faster than Mikh, and now by an appreciable margin. This could go on for weeks. I'll get back to you on this.

(And no, Escape Out isn't a factor. Too much of Kyra's offense is MT.)

EDIT 2: Man, good thing Kyra also has Telele, otherwise SCREWDRIVER's female weakness-hitting would become relevant due to being ITD and I'd have to calc its damage. Granted, I may have to do that anyway now.

EDIT 3: MIKHAIL HAS PARALYSIS RIGHT. Holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit, nevermind. I'm pretty sure this tilts the match in his favor, since he can mostly paralysis-lock once he lands it once (he should take something like three attempts to do so, and he gets a lot of time to apply it). Granted, Kyra recovering on an occasional double would be an additional annoyance, but Mikhail's winning this through status, not outresourcing. He's just happy his status options are so staggeringly cheap and the fact he runs off two distinct resource pools. I'm slightly weirded out by Mikhail's duelling complexity now.

Malak Galthana (Laggy Fantasy Tactics) vs Dragonite (Pokémon) - Exploding Frog.

Madchen (Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride) vs Nina (Breath of Fire II) - Jiggle physics.
Cistina Phoraena (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together) vs Ashton Anchors (Star Ocean: The Second Story) - Cistina's pdur is kinda nuts and Healing Infusion kinda drives the physical tanking further home. Ashton even has good enough damage for this to not be very sad, but it's an uphill battle still.

Cai (Brigandine) vs Anna (Fire Emblem: Awakening) - Cai effectively 4HKOs (after factoring in evasion) and loses the initiative tiebreak. Anna 5HKOs to me (GE for me, so Cai doesn't resist Thunder), Cai's mdur is effectively average... but he has healing, and 2HKOs at base even with his cheap damage (Exa-blast is just cost-inefficient here). Yeah, think he can pull this through. Anna doesn't want to brave melee counters either, since her damage with physicals is -even worse-.
Tin Man (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Pikachu (Pokémon) - I think Tin Man OHKOs even if he misses one hit from Battle Wind due to Double Team. Yeah no.
Baybull (Super Robot Taisen J) vs Pierre (Chrono Cross) - sure evade
Sunset (Live a Live) vs Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV) - Sunset just plain outslugs because Kain's damage is just that awful (as in I think he -3HKOs- with Jump. Seriously). Jump means just unloading his charged damage, which risks OHKOing him flat.
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Re: Futurama 2014 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2014, 07:08:52 PM »
Godlike

Reshiram (Pokémon) vs Tetri (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy)- Am I missing something about Resh? He seems not so great.
Holly (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Tir McDohl (Suikoden Series)
Persephone (Wild ARMs 5) vs Elc (Arc the Lad II)

Sataniel (Star Ocean: The Last Hope) vs Epsilon (Mega Man X: Command Mission) - Kinda similar but Sataniel has better damage and is only a bit slower.

Heavy

Mikhail (Romancing SaGa 3) vs Kyra (Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millenium)
Malak Galthana (Laggy Fantasy Tactics) vs Dragonite (Pokémon)
Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV: The After Years) vs Mesarthim (SaGa Frontier)
Syrenne (The Last Story) vs Edgar Roni Figaro (Final Fantasy VI)

Middle

Madchen (Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride) vs Nina (Breath of Fire II)
Cistina Phoraena (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together) vs Ashton Anchors (Star Ocean: The Second Story)
Adell (Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories) vs Yosuke Hanamura (Persona 4)
Liu (Suikoden Tierkreis) vs Dalton (Chrono Trigger)

Light

Cai (Brigandine) vs Anna (Fire Emblem: Awakening)
Tin Man (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Pikachu (Pokémon)
Baybull (Super Robot Taisen J) vs Pierre (Chrono Cross)
Sunset (Live a Live) vs Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV)
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Re: Futurama 2014 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2014, 10:24:54 PM »
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Reshiram (Pokémon) vs Tetri (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy): Reshiram looks like a Heavy to me, yeah. Anyway, no form of healing/buffing makes this a pure slugfest and the absolute best-case scenario (not seeing Reshiram's moves silenceable, allowing him his Level 100 move, assuming his MT is good enough to OHKO the mana plants...) still leaves Reshiram out cold here, as Tetri is both more damaging and more durable; speed won't make up for that.
Holly (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Tir McDohl (Suikoden Series): Sleep. Holly will have to tank one Judgement but she can do this.
Satanail (Star Ocean: The Last Hope) vs Epsilon (Mega Man X: Command Mission): Their durability is probably similar in practice (both extremely good). Epsilon is faster but Satanail is just too much more damaging.

Heavy

Malak Galthana (Laggy Fantasy Tactics) vs Dragonite (Pokémon): Twink speed to be just slower than Dragonite, Exploding Frog.
Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV: The After Years) vs Mesarthim (SaGa Frontier): Can probably turtle behind HideRune + VitalityRune long enough to status Kain out with something. If he blocks petrify (not sure if that's legal) and keeps up Image this might be trickier, although even then PhantasmShot probably gets him eventually?
Syrenne (The Last Story) vs Edgar Roni Figaro (Final Fantasy VI): I'm not so sure. Syrenne's damage comes via attacking often (arguably very fast) so confusing her might just lead her to deconfuse herself then go right back to 2HKOing? On the other hand... this same argument might make Air Anchor more effective; if she's getting lots of small turns then her "2HKO" is really a "2RKO" and the back half of it will be interrupted by AA. So... for all that this is close enough, going with the crowd here.

Middle

Cistina Phoraena (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together) vs Ashton Anchors (Star Ocean: The Second Story): This is a pretty close slugfest (Ashton more damage, Cistina more durability, similar speed), and since Ashton's attacks give Cistina TP, she can probably get off a free-action HP Infusion to further tip things her way.
Liu (Suikoden Tierkreis) vs Dalton (Chrono Trigger): Healing and superior speed > Dalton.

Light

Cai (Brigandine) vs Anna (Fire Emblem: Awakening): Snow's analysis looks good to me.
Tin Man (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Pikachu (Pokémon): Probably OHKOs.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2014, 10:26:29 PM by Dark Holy Elf »

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Re: Futurama 2014 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2014, 11:25:44 PM »
Godlike

Reshiram (Pokémon) vs Tetri (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy)
Holly (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Tir McDohl (Suikoden Series): Sleep, yeah.
Persephone (Wild ARMs 5) vs Elc (Arc the Lad II): Persephone's healing could be a nuisance here. (1/14th her HP), and she can Quicken to double frequently with Target->Lock On (if she isn't doubling Elc is just going to Invincible L1). Divide could be useful, in theory. None of her stuff really matters outside Gatling.
Sataniel (Star Ocean: The Last Hope) vs Epsilon (Mega Man X: Command Mission)

Heavy

Mikhail (Romancing SaGa 3) vs Kyra (Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millenium)
Malak Galthana (Laggy Fantasy Tactics) vs Dragonite (Pokémon)
Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV: The After Years) vs Mesarthim (SaGa Frontier)
Syrenne (The Last Story) vs Edgar Roni Figaro (Final Fantasy VI): Confuse? Probably works.

Middle

Madchen (Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride) vs Nina (Breath of Fire II): Bouncing.
Cistina Phoraena (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together) vs Ashton Anchors (Star Ocean: The Second Story)
Adell (Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories) vs Yosuke Hanamura (Persona 4): Seems pretty easy for the Y.
Liu (Suikoden Tierkreis) vs Dalton (Chrono Trigger)

Light

Cai (Brigandine) vs Anna (Fire Emblem: Awakening)
Tin Man (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Pikachu (Pokémon): Tin Man isn't weak to Lightning, fortunately for him!
Baybull (Super Robot Taisen J) vs Pierre (Chrono Cross)
Sunset (Live a Live) vs Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV): Jump should prove useful here. Two Jumps and Sunset is out for sure, and HurricaneShot takes long enough to charge that Jump ensures Kain won't see it.

Will run a bit over a week, to next sunday/monday.

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Re: Futurama 2014 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2014, 04:53:13 PM »
Godlike

Reshiram (Pokémon) vs Tetri (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy)
Holly (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Tir McDohl (Suikoden Series)
Persephone (Wild ARMs 5) vs Elc (Arc the Lad II)- No vote.
Sataniel (Star Ocean: The Last Hope) vs Epsilon (Mega Man X: Command Mission)- No vote.

Heavy

Mikhail (Romancing SaGa 3) vs Kyra (Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millenium)- No vote.
Malak Galthana (Laggy Fantasy Tactics) vs Dragonite (Pokémon)- No vote.
Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV: The After Years) vs Mesarthim (SaGa Frontier)
Syrenne (The Last Story) vs Edgar Roni Figaro (Final Fantasy VI)- No vote.

Middle

Madchen (Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride) vs Nina (Breath of Fire II)- Pretty sure she's got Bounce.
Cistina Phoraena (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together) vs Ashton Anchors (Star Ocean: The Second Story)- No vote.
Adell (Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories) vs Yosuke Hanamura (Persona 4)- I think.
Liu (Suikoden Tierkreis) vs Dalton (Chrono Trigger)

Light

Cai (Brigandine) vs Anna (Fire Emblem: Awakening)
Tin Man (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) vs Pikachu (Pokémon)
Baybull (Super Robot Taisen J) vs Pierre (Chrono Cross)
Sunset (Live a Live) vs Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV)- No vote.
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Re: Futurama 2014 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2014, 05:50:53 AM »
Godlike

Persephone (Wild ARMs 5) vs Elc (Arc the Lad II)

Heavy

Malak Galthana (Laggy Fantasy Tactics) vs Dragonite (Pokémon)

Middle

Adell (Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories) vs Yosuke Hanamura (Persona 4)
Liu (Suikoden Tierkreis) vs Dalton (Chrono Trigger)

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Re: Futurama 2014 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2014, 06:07:42 AM »
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Reshiram (Pokémon) vs Tetri (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy)- iii
Holly (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road)- iiiiii vs Tir McDohl (Suikoden Series)
Persephone (Wild ARMs 5) vs Elc (Arc the Lad II)- ii
Sataniel (Star Ocean: The Last Hope)- ii vs Epsilon (Mega Man X: Command Mission)

Heavy

Mikhail Ausbach von Loanne (Romancing SaGa 3)- ii vs Kyra (Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millenium)
Malak Galthana (Laggy Fantasy Tactics)- iiiii vs Dragonite (Pokémon)
Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV: The After Years) vs Mesarthim (SaGa Frontier)- iiii
Syrenne (The Last Story) vs Edgar Roni Figaro (Final Fantasy VI)- iiii

Middle

Madchen (Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride)- iiiii vs Nina (Breath of Fire II)
Cistina Phoraena (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together)- iiiii vs Ashton Anchors (Star Ocean: The Second Story)
Adell (Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories) vs Yosuke Hanamura (Persona 4)- iiii
Liu (Suikoden Tierkreis)- iiiiii vs Dalton (Chrono Trigger)

Light

Cai (Brigandine)- iiiii vs Anna (Fire Emblem: Awakening)
Tin Man (The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road)- iiiiii vs Pikachu (Pokémon)
Baybull (Super Robot Taisen J)- iii vs Pierre (Chrono Cross)
Sunset (Live a Live)- i vs Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV)- ii
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