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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3900 on: December 10, 2015, 09:59:05 PM »
Eh I'll get Vermintide next time it goes on sale but NOT before

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3901 on: December 10, 2015, 11:48:14 PM »
Vermintide's new patch helps a bit with the loot RNG.  It is in a nice place at the moment, so yeah do rec on sale.
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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3902 on: December 11, 2015, 11:17:23 PM »
It is also on my list come the next time it's on sale.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3903 on: December 12, 2015, 03:13:37 AM »
Bravely Default challenge continued


Gigas Lich (3 resets) - Actually this turned out not quite as bad as I thought. I don't really get Slam's mechanics, it seems to do roughly the same damage regardless of whether I default or not, and whether I use Nothing Ventured or not? May investigate in later fights. Regardless it's a high 2HKO without warning and where my healing sucks. It's terrible. If he uses it a lot there really isn't much I can do, 4 X-Potions don't fully patch me up and would bleed me dry pretty quickly anyway... I stock up on 20 for the fight which is a huge investment.

The bad news is that Slam sucks and I have nothing that really helps, the good news is that he doesn't use it too often and his other attacks are way less scary. Death is a pain of course, but a blocker helps, and it can be reflected (I use a light curtain on a couple occasions with spare turns). Reflect also stops everything else, but the other moves are even less bad: Dread, and Quaga, which thanks to everyone having Swordmaster's L2 ability Abate Earth isn't too big a problem. Even better, below half HP he starts using Quaga on himself, which is a complete waste of a turn as it doesn't even come close to offsetting 4 BP worth of offence.

So I mostly eschew counters and draining and all that nonsense and just largely try to balance damage with lots and lots of healing (mainly Phoenix Downs, but I use all 20 X-Potions as well). I throw the three Elixirs I have at him, because I figure nothing else will ever deserve them as much as this. (I have since decided this might be incorrect... oh well.) They do 9999 each out of his 108k HP, which makes a big difference when my best offence otherwise, Undead Slayer on one PC and the Divine Fists (holy weapon) on another, do about 2500 or so. At a certain point of the fight I go into desperation mode and stop even trying to heal, just reviving, and praying he doesn't use Slam. It's a rare move so this isn't totally crazy. It works. I don't have a remotely reliable strategy for him, which is bad given I'll have to fight him again, but I pull through with luck. I'm Level 51-52.


Alternis Dim - Buy Dark Charms for everyone except one PC with the Dark Shield. The first form of the fight is dead easy. Default then drain, or counterdrain. No problem.

The second part is pretty damn nasty on the other hand. Minus Strike kills anyone, which alone would be fine (see: why Kamiizumi or Qada are wusses). The problem is my revival is only 200 HP, and he can pick off anyone at that HP range, except my Dark Shield PC, with the MT Black Bane. In fact if I'm not defaulting/countering, there's a risk that high variance kills off someone even at 1700 HP (i.e. Phoenix Down + X-Potion), and yes, that's with halving dark! So the only real way to get back to safety is with draining attacks, and since I have to reset drain spellblade every time I die... yeah, this part's dicy. The Dark Shield is hugely helpful, since that PC can laugh at the MT, and thus if I always acted first I could avoid dying by having them toss Phoenix Downs if Black Bane wiped out everyone else, and have someone else revive him if he is hit with a ST non-elemental attack. I don't always go first, though, and that makes this battle rather scary. I use 48 Phoenix Downs in all, which I think might even be a record for one fight thus far.


Orthros 2 (3 resets) - I decide to hit him up first. I figure he won't be too bad, Ice Charms/Iceflame Shield on everyone, I now have elemental damage to control the heads... and yeah I run into a lot of trouble. His damage has roughly doubled since the first fight (relative to the time), which means each head has MT 2HKO if I'm not defaulting. Which means this is the first boss who potentially has the ability to one-round my party, at no extra BP cost, every turn, with Blazzard x2. Of course we don't see that potential, but still I misplay this fight a few times as that's a lot of potential damage, even controlling the heads, and recovering against it is hard.

Fortunately, counters are really good here, since Orthros uses a lot of MT and gets two attacks per round, all physical = lots of draining counters! I decide to have my two spellblade-counterers focus exclusively on that until one of the heads die. The other two PCs, one with the Iceflame Shield, buy them some time. On turn 1 the Iceflame Shield user uses Ice spellblade and disables one of the heads, on turn 2 (after a default) the other attacker (my ranger) uses a fire-enhanced Beast Slayer to hit the other. This allows my counterers to safely default a few times to build up extra BP with which to reset drain spellblade, if necessary, and spam Nothing Ventured from there, meaning they can't really die. Once one of the heads falls, the rest of the fight is really easy, although due to bad luck I do finish with my ranger dead, a loss of 999 JP. :( This fight is way easier than Gigas Lich and doesn't deserve to have 3 resets, but that's the way these things go. This is even more true when you consider the next paragraph, which I should have done first.


At this point I realise looking things up that there's a Thief Knife hidden in one of the dungeons, which allows me to steal things. Now, BD steal isn't that great a lot of the time, but in chapter 5, it lets me pick up Iceflame Shields. So I go steal those from the Kobold Slashers in the Norende ravine. Easy enough. I now have four of them, which will make future refights against Orthros and Rusalka much easier. I'm much less comfortable about Chaugmar and especially Gigas Lich's second appearances. In Chapter 6 I'll be able to get access to the Muramasa, a katana which can use Defang, and lower their Atk to make them much easier, but for chapter 5... we'll see.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3904 on: December 12, 2015, 11:55:00 PM »
Bloodborne DLC:"oh my god this new weapon is so cool" x3
I have no twin shards left.
I'm maining Boom Hammer + Amygdala Arm, going through the old game for chunks.

Level design is so cool and interesting it hurts.
I haven't encountered a boss yet, except for a few crazy hunters plus that thing near Amelia plus BSB. Yeah,

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3905 on: December 13, 2015, 12:05:52 AM »
Bloodborne DLC:"oh my god this new weapon is so cool" x3
I have no twin shards left.
I'm maining Boom Hammer + Amygdala Arm, going through the old game for chunks.

Level design is so cool and interesting it hurts.
I haven't encountered a boss yet, except for a few crazy hunters plus that thing near Amelia plus BSB. Yeah,

DLC is fairly generous for ore, like From DLC generally is because hey new weapons to upgrade. There's one more rock (this is generous by Bloodborne standards) and enough chunks to get I think two weapons to +9 (again, generous for Bloodborne, this isn't Monty Haul Souls 2). Twin shards, whatevs, you can buy those eventually. Amygdala Arm is extremely cool. I didn't dig the Boom Hammer, though, like I disliked most of the weapons that didn't have a true alternate weapon mode and just had a "hit L1 for brief buff" instead.

Of course the best thing DLC gives you is just a power-up for the Beast Claw, because you guys know my favorite way to tear these games to pieces is with bear hands.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3906 on: December 13, 2015, 12:16:18 AM »
Subterfuge:  My last game didn't go so hot.  Got triple-teamed from the very beginning.  Including a backstab.  Protip: don't backstab someone on the very first day when they don't trust you anyway.  Build up a few days of trust so that they leave their flank exposed to you, *then* backstab them.

I actually pulled off some miraculous defense.  I had inspector and smuggler as my first two specialist draws.  So I shuttled the inspector back and forth, constantly recharging my shields and inflicting massive losses.  Two of the three guys that attacked me didn't get a single one of my lands.  But three against one is too much and the third guy slowly whittled me down.  I dumped my remaining lands and specialists to another guy that had helped me and he won.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3907 on: December 13, 2015, 12:20:03 AM »
I think I want to get through NG+ as a beast.
Or do a bloodtinge run and main the gatling gun

Boom Hammer's lack of an alternate moveset was definitely disappointing (I'm maining the gross and weird arm, not the hammer), but the cool fire effects, the name "Boom Hammer", and the way you acquire it are just awesome.

I can buy twin shards but that costs insight! 2 for each twin shard, so 32 insight per weapon.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3908 on: December 13, 2015, 12:34:26 AM »
Oh. Well, twin shards eventually go on sale for echoes, but I forget what the unlock timeframe is.

Gatling gun is hilarious against large enemies, pretty bad against small ones (because they get knocked down by the first bullet and then the rest miss). I'm not sure if this was lag making enemies wig out or what, but I co-oped the latter stages of the chalice gauntlet with my brother last week and it seemed like dual gatlings would stunlock most anything.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3909 on: December 14, 2015, 01:34:48 AM »
I'm playing Shovel Knight's Plague of Shadows mode, I'll post some thoughts when I'm done. And Bravely Default, obviously. But this post is about


Legend of Legacy - Beaten. Eloise as main, Garnet and Liber as the other PCs. I shouldn't have used Liber, he reminds me of Zidane... but by the time I figured out how to recruit other PCs he had learned too much useful stuff. Eloise was primarily a defender with staves (staff parrying is cool) but also had all the fire and wind spells, including the fire contract. Liber's speciality was speed ("support" as the game calls it, thanks LoL mechanical opacity), had my 200 HP healing accessory, some bow/1Hsword attacks, and various water spells + water contract. Garnet was the heavy hitter with greatswords, held the wind contract, and had a bunch of water spells.

Reading up about the game I learned there are actually different stances (states which you choose at the start of the round, they change your stats/etc. and kinda resemble FF13 roles except that they don't restrict your skillset) besides the first three you start the game with. The way you get them is both kinda unintuitive and grindy, which is a shame because they have some kinda interesting potential.

They also made the final battle notably easier. Big things which helped were putting Garnet in the stance which boosts speed a lot the turns I needed to refresh Water Shield, using the stance which boosts attack at the expense of speed for turns on offence, and using the stance which boosts durability on turns spent healing or spamming contracts. I also spammed the water contract like mad so the final's MT magic wouldn't wreck me, and spammed Fluid Strike (staff parry + counter). I didn't think it would work against MT physicals, but apparently it does, and one of the boss' scariest move involved using a mid-power MT physical three times a round, so yeah countering that was great.


Anyway the gameplay of this game is at its best pretty interesting and certainly unique, at least once you figure out some key mechanics the game doesn't tell you about (i.e. how the elemental field affects the damage of physicals and magic). But it also goes through some dull points, including a very slow start. Pacing-wise it took me like 26 hours, I think, which is too long for what the game is. So it's a Saga Frontier file which takes 2-3x longer, has no plot, and in which your party consists of three instead of five, entirely humans instead of Saga's racial diversity. It adds up to a notably worse game. At the end of the day the only thing it really has is a decent battle system, which for a game that is weak everywhere else isn't really enough. (Nice art, too.)

3/10.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3910 on: December 14, 2015, 02:41:04 AM »
Bloodborne DLC:

- Overall, it's a good expansion, as good as AotA.
- The Fishing Hamlet and Research Hall are fantastic additions to the game; some of my favorite areas in all of the Souls franchise. Bosses are a mixed bag.
- I focused on Simon's Bowblade (because I love archery and always go for archer builds first in games) with the Evelyn. The Bowblade breaks the maingame; most bosses are made much easier with a cheap, reliable projectile. It is considerably less useful in the DLC, but still good in a few areas and versus one of the bosses. The dagger portion of the weapon is a whole lot of fun, reminding me a little of Scimitars in DeS and DaS.
- Other weapons and stuff looked cool, but I'm not sure how many times I would be willing to slog through some of this content to see it all for myself.
- On to bosses. "Sword Guy" was incredibly tough and had a frankly unfair jump attack, but went down to determination in the end after about a week of attempts. I would equate that battle with Artorias; it was fantastic and a little overwhelming, but probably one of my favorite bosses no matter how I look at it.
- "Pack of Goons" was a nice breather from the previous boss, but was also an interesting fight in its own right. It was like Celestial Emissary from the maingame done better.
- "Flaming Goat" is the boss I almost stopped bothering with. Grad school really wears on your patience for this kind of thing. He ended up being pretty cool in the second half, but easily cheesed by a ranged build.
- "Sword Lady" was an awesome battle, if a bit short due to the strength of ripostes on a SKL build. Incredibly well animated and with lots of pressure. Interesting lore implications.
- "Zoidberg" was incredibly tough, but super satisfying. A bit disappointed there was no cutscene or real closure, but that's Souls for you.
- My one general complaint about the DLC is that most of the treasure is just basic maingame stuff, and while it's nice to have another Blood Rock, aside from the new weapons I felt like a lot of time was wasted looting side areas that had nothing new of interest. Why should I bother dealing with these dangerous mobs for a Coldblood Dew?
- I would also have liked the area to scale better to lower levels, especially since it becomes available so soon. I don't play New Game+, so now if I want to experiment with a weapon buried deep in these areas, there's not much point since I have to wait until so late in the game and would basically have to play on NG+ to get any mileage out of them. This complaint is probably not solvable without sacrificing the quality of content some; more of a personal issue with game progression for me.
- In short, if you liked Bloodborne a lot you'll like this content too, though $20 is fairly steep. If the price is dissuading you, I'd hold off for a sale. There's some much needed lore added, interesting combat, and some hideous but fascinating areas, but nothing essential by any means.
- I doubt I will finish any more games this year, but it seems a bit soon to say. I can tell you that, while this DLC was good, it didn't push this game above Undertale for me and MGSV is close competition for sure.

Life is Strange: I was intrigued by the time travel concept, but this game made me feel like a really grumpy old man. I cannot sit through 15 hours of teenagers talking the way these characters do.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3911 on: December 14, 2015, 03:43:10 AM »
Okay, I beat Shovel Knight: Plague of Shadows

Overall Plague Knight mode isn't as fun as Shovel Knight mode, mostly because the stages are still designed for Shovel Knight, fundamentally. And Plague Knight's controls are a bit weird. Still, it's fun; I enjoyed the more comic turn of playing as a mad scientist ("The better the alchemist... the bigger the explosion!") and the writers seem more adept at comic writing than serious writing generally. They also integrated Plague Knight's story into the main story surprisingly well (that is, both stories coexist simultaneously, without contradicting each other), which I wasn't really expecting. And on a purely gameplay note, the system of different bombs as well as the more traditional MM-esqe special abilities were both fun, so yeah, it's a welcome addition to the game for sure. Good times.


Also, more Bravely Default:

Rusalka 2 (1 reset) - Iceflame Shields mean Dark Flow is nulled, but charm is still a big pain, and the clones are relatively more durable this time. But one big change is I have Dark Knight's Black Bane, which is pretty good MT damage. With Drain Spellblade setup in advance, four of them don't quite kill all the clones, but one more Aquatic Slayer to each gets the job done.

The biggest strategy note is that, for the first time, I actually use the Gale Bow's itemcast for Haste, since making sure the Dark Knight goes first the turn after Dark Flow is crucial (otherwise either charm, or taking enough damage to lower her below 30% where Black Bane can't be used, can ruin all my plans). With the ability to clean up the enemies quickly, and Dark Flow nulled, the only possible complication is charm on other turns, which isn't too bad given how unthreatening other things in the fight are, and because I have two setup turns (Seep, Dark Flow) before the one which matters.


At this point I decide to see if I can fight a dragon without doing anything about Fire/Dark/etc. Bane. Turns out... not really. Even defaulting/countering and with a shield on, it tends to be a low OHKO to most people. Only high 2HKO to some but that's not really good enough. I'll try again in chapter 6, perhaps, because Vampire Castle is the source of a Blood Blade, which would be helpful to get access to, but at this point might as well wait for when I get Defang.


Randoms aren't trivial at this point in the game but nor are they too bad. Phoenix Down spam deals with undead, Black Bane deals with everything else, unless it nulls dark, other strats (blitz or counters) can help out as well. The toughest enemy for my team is the Dark Pudding, which absorbs dark and can hit reasonably hard to both defences, so no strategy works that well. I have a Monk with Divine Knuckles, Hawkeye and Precision, which at least takes them down reasonably quickly.


Chaugmar 2 - I'm a bit worried here, but it turns out that his Energy Burst doesn't even come to close to OHKOing through default. So this is Chaugmar 1 again, but generally a bit easier. Minus Strike and Hidden Dragon remain are the best ways to deal with healing (draining) before Energy Burst, I foolishly come in with this on less people than I should, but still, the people with those can't really die too easily, so it's not too bad. I'll know better for next time. Other people may die before Energy Burst (because I can't drain while the shield is up, and can't drain the turn Energy Burst is used, since I won't be defaulting... although Nothing Ventured provides a possible avenue). Not bad though.


Gigas Lich has a lot of potential to ruin my day again. Hopefully not. We'll see.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3912 on: December 14, 2015, 12:30:13 PM »
Civ5- Playing this off and on again with the new Enlightenment era mod. The extra era largely helps the player- it's something else for Deity/Immortal AI to waste hammer and beakers on ineffectively, and gives you more time to catch up. It's still pretty fun and well designed though.
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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3913 on: December 14, 2015, 04:04:28 PM »
Rocky: you do know what an A-bomb is, right?
Bullwinkle: A-bomb is what some people call our show!
Rocky: I don't think that's very funny...
Bullwinkle: Neither do they, apparently!

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3914 on: December 14, 2015, 05:49:49 PM »
Emily is Away: Andrew college years AOL Instant Messenger simulator. Shockingly accurate. Short, fun little thing. Kind of a downer.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3915 on: December 14, 2015, 09:32:12 PM »
jsh for what it is worth, fairly universally people seem to think the dialogue improves in Life is Strange after episode 1.

Elf, I missed you getting Dark Knight and presumably deciding on your rules for job juggling.  Did you just go with 4/5 in use and must be unique?
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« Reply #3916 on: December 14, 2015, 10:41:06 PM »
Civ5 - Incidentally, I also fired up Civ5 while waiting for SC2:LotV to install and then ended up just playing Civ5. Pangaea, Small map, Japan, Emperor difficulty. Late game is really boring and easy on Emperor, it turns out; once I took down the second Civ of the game and got to Crossbowmen and Cannons there wasn't really much competition.

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« Reply #3917 on: December 15, 2015, 12:13:23 AM »
jsh for what it is worth, fairly universally people seem to think the dialogue improves in Life is Strange after episode 1.

Elf, I missed you getting Dark Knight and presumably deciding on your rules for job juggling.  Did you just go with 4/5 in use and must be unique?

Yup.

A couple hours after getting Dark Knight I remembered Snowfire's suggestion to force myself to use the secondary of whatever job I'm not currently using, which is a pretty good one, but by that point I had already broken that rule several times and anyway I'm certainly not worried about the lategame being too easy, so I decided to go without that particular restriction.

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« Reply #3918 on: December 16, 2015, 05:28:36 AM »
Bravely Default chapter 5 end:

Gigas Lich 2 (6 resets) - Okay let's talk about him some more.

First of all, he has 25% more HP this time, which I was counting on, as well as 100 Def instead of ~50, cutting my damage by almost a third, which I was not. As such he's more durable than last time (I was kinda expecting less) so that's even more time for things to go wrong and Slam to wreck me.

Slam's mechanics are pretty straightforward now that I've watched them carefully: it's just a MT physical which ignores Default. If used turn 1 it's only a good 3HKO, but it rises to a very solid 2HKO over the first five turns, and there's nothing I can do about it. As per previous comments, Death is also kinda annoying, Quaga and Fear aren't too bad but do affect strategy.

Anyway, with this knowledge on hand, Default suddenly becomes not that great in this fight, since it only reduces Quaga, and storing up BP can backfire due to Fear reducing BP to zero when it lands. Still, it's good to store up some BP just in case of emergencies, which definitely happen in this fight because Slam does more damage than four X-Potions can heal. I generally default either once or twice before trying to get rid of BP. Let's talk setup:

-Dark Knight twinked for HP and Minus Strike, along with a Divine Knuckles and See You in Hell, which kicks in a lot. She gets played differently from anyone else in this fight, as I leave her at low HP once she ends there, never healing there, for Minus Strike/See You in Hell use.
-Monk and Ranger, both based around using Divine Knuckles and Undead Slayer. I only have two Divine Knuckles and the Dark Knight monopolises one, so they have to share, but that works pretty well. These two have my lowest offence outside of a high-HP dark knight, so both end up doing a fair bit of healing/revival.
-Spell Fencer with Sword Magic Amp and Pressure Point. He's my only character with Holy Spellblade, and although it costs 160 MP (!), it's worth it as the combination of holy on my strongest bow and the defence-ignoring Pressure Point yields over 8000 damage, which even at the cost of an extra BP is my best offence. He also has my lone Safety Ring, because Death making me recast Holy Spellblade is bad both for the wasted turn and the MP cost (I can cast it twice before needing to turn to a Turbo Ether).

Basically the strategy is to output damage when possible, while dealing with the other threats. Slam still really sucks, and necessitates healing. I always try to get at least one PC to survive another Slam, and getting more up there (except the DK) is better, but not always possible, since I don't really want to borrow turns to do it. Highest priority for keeping HP up is the Spell Fencer, since Death cuts through anyone else's HP, mkaing me feel like I wasted turns. From 200 HP it takes two X-Potions to get someone to survive Slam, otherwise whether one or two is needed to recover varies. When hit with Fear, I don't heal it, since the ability to brave/default isn't THAT valuable and it wears off on its own in pretty quickly anyway, so I just use those solo turns for healing, reviving, and attacking as needed. Revival is almost always a high priority, as I want as many people regaining BP as possible.

Like the first Gigas Lich fight, it does eventually spiral increasingly out of control, but by counting his 135k HP, I just need to get to around 75-80k damage done, and then I can unleash my Elixirs (2 normal, one Mega), and a brave-blitz to try to take him out. Last couple turns are pretty hairy as I need revival to get the final brave-blitz out but it works, and fortunately he wastes one of his low-HP turns on healing himself for 2k. Ha! I was Level 55-56.


Alternis 2 - Exactly the same as the first fight, really. My offence is slightly higher but whatever. Same easy first half, same scary second half which I very, very easily could have lost if I'd been speed-haxed at the wrong time. Incidentally Alternis seems notably faster than his listed 42-44 speed, or my luck is really screwy.


Currently in the middle of blue chest hunting, bashing randoms. I picked up Dark Nebula. You might say its performance so far is...



... stellar.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3919 on: December 16, 2015, 05:46:26 AM »
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Slam's mechanics are pretty straightforward now that I've watched them carefully: it's just a MT physical which ignores Default. If used turn 1 it's only a good 3HKO, but it rises to a very solid 2HKO over the first five turns, and there's nothing I can do about it. As per previous comments, Death is also kinda annoying, Quaga and Fear aren't too bad but do affect strategy.

What?  Does he have Atk boost I forget?

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-Dark Knight twinked for HP and Minus Strike, along with a Divine Knuckles and See You in Hell, which kicks in a lot. She gets played differently from anyone else in this fight, as I leave her at low HP once she ends there, never healing there, for Minus Strike/See You in Hell use.

????????????????? apparently BD mechanically works nothing like I remember, I have in my head that Minus Strike is like ??? in FF series, not that it is a physical with amplified multiplier at lower HP (like um other shit in FF).
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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3920 on: December 16, 2015, 05:48:13 AM »
jsh for what it is worth, fairly universally people seem to think the dialogue improves in Life is Strange after episode 1.
I can attest to this. In particular, the opening scene with the photography class is incredibly bad and cringeworthy, but they make jokes in later episodes about things like "hella" so I think they learned their lesson a bit.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3921 on: December 16, 2015, 04:14:31 PM »
Gref:

Gigas Lich's physical and magical attack rises by 10% at the end of every round. In a normal playthrough you dispel that shit, or debuff him, to stop it from being a problem (or cheese him with a Bravely Second Elixir or One More For You if that's more your style).

Minus Strike is indeed the same as ???, so the weapon doesn't matter there (and initially I had the DK set up with just a defender + shield), but See You In Hell is a free counter of 4x weapon damage whenever you die, and that ended up adding up to more than I expected.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3922 on: December 16, 2015, 06:28:11 PM »
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Alternis 2 - Exactly the same as the first fight, really. My offence is slightly higher but whatever. Same easy first half, same scary second half which I very, very easily could have lost if I'd been speed-haxed at the wrong time. Incidentally Alternis seems notably faster than his listed 42-44 speed, or my luck is really screwy.

Hard bosses get a 20% bonus on their randomized initiative variation speed, IIRC. So uh yeah, they're generally faster than their listed speed.
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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3923 on: December 16, 2015, 11:31:07 PM »
Gref:

Gigas Lich's physical and magical attack rises by 10% at the end of every round. In a normal playthrough you dispel that shit, or debuff him, to stop it from being a problem (or cheese him with a Bravely Second Elixir or One More For You if that's more your style).

Minus Strike is indeed the same as ???, so the weapon doesn't matter there (and initially I had the DK set up with just a defender + shield), but See You In Hell is a free counter of 4x weapon damage whenever you die, and that ended up adding up to more than I expected.

Ahhh yeah now that you mention it I remember (he was post Vampire for me so... toolkit resolves everything)

I guess I wasn't taking into account how much See You In Hell would be going off and how much below damage cap you are for it to be so impacting.
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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3924 on: December 17, 2015, 04:37:03 PM »
Well finally been a month of steady internet, so I guess I can actually post what I've been doing in the intern (Aside from FF14 Summoner and Fate Grand Order Nobu goshdarn silliness)

Tales of Grace f:

Well I did stop in a good spot, going to go visit Pascal's sis. Also have been trying to master the art of Huberting. I'm not doing particularly well. Also attempted to do the Warrior's Roost challenge WELL ahead of when I need to try it (EXP please.) I got to Veigue...and promptly got creamed by AI. That actually got me to continue plot. SO I'm going to try to continue story sometime next week. I want to try to beat Tales of Grace f main scenerio soon.