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[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Mom's moving back to my hometown next year. I'll be living entirely on my own for the first time in my life.

I don't know what the hell to say.

[Cotigo]

My response is, you're in you're late 20s and you still lived with your mom?

The independence will be nice. Enjoy it.

[InfinityDragon]

NotMiki:  Good work getting through law school and the bar exams.  Unfortunately bad bosses are everywhere...they just happen to be worse when in an already higher-stress occupation (I am firmly convinced that my boss for the last 6 months of my tour to Afghanistan suffered from disassociative identity disorder and had damage to his temporal lobe, leaving only the ability to swear and speak in tongues).  What type of tax work do you get to work on?  Purely personal income tax, or do you get to dabble in partnership and corporate tax areas as well?  I loved tax law...probably because it was almost entirely rules driven and not patchwork random judicial opinions.

Seconding the "independence is nice" for Snow.  Just make sure you learn some life skills (like....laundry!) first!  I say that half jokingly: after seeing countless people away from home for the first time living in a clueless manner, you can no longer assume people just know basic skills like laundering their clothes, or taking trash out of the home into a trash bin.  Yeah.  You don't want to be that guy.

[Grefter]

Hey dude, glad you are still doing well.  Welcome back.

[superaielman]

I loved tax law...probably because it was almost entirely rules driven and not patchwork random judicial opinions.

But don't you want to be on the cutting edge of civil law?!?!!?! (I work in a clerk's office now, sooo.) I remember you loathed tort in law school, so not surprised you have that opinion now.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

My response is, you're in you're late 20s and you still lived with your mom?

The independence will be nice. Enjoy it.

Since graduation, sharing bills and supporting her in household economy since I entered the workforce. Also caring for her to a degree as well. it's just sorta weird.

Also, housekeeping basics aren't a problem, college taught me enough. I haven't been living in my parents' basement, after all.

[NotMiki]

What type of tax work do you get to work on?  Purely personal income tax, or do you get to dabble in partnership and corporate tax areas as well?  I loved tax law...probably because it was almost entirely rules driven and not patchwork random judicial opinions.

Partnership tax, but I'm still a total dunce at it.  What I mostly do is commercial real estate work - drafting operating agreements, doing due diligence on construction contracts, loan agreements, title and survey, etc.

Also, regrettably, our area of tax is quite ambiguous at the moment.   Federal historic rehabilitation tax credits, which are our main business, are mostly about shoehorning deals into a safe harbor the IRS came up with last year (following a court case that nearly killed the industry).  It is...well, it's nice that mostly we grapple with the meaning of a single revenue procedure, but that procedure is not a masterpiece of careful drafting, so we're dealing with a lot of uncertainty.  The whole federal rehabilitation tax credit industry is.

[Veryslightlymad]

My response is, you're in you're late 20s and you still lived with your mom?

The independence will be nice. Enjoy it.

Since graduation, sharing bills and supporting her in household economy since I entered the workforce. Also caring for her to a degree as well. it's just sorta weird.

Also, housekeeping basics aren't a problem, college taught me enough. I haven't been living in my parents' basement, after all.

Isn't this much more common in Brazil, anyhow? I know it is for a lot of South America.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

It is pretty common, especially in arrangements like mine. In practice, mom's closer to a roommate than anything else. I pay half the bills at home and help her with chores. Her moving means a tighter budget, but that I can manage.

[Veryslightlymad]

Yeah, from what I understand, America is fucking weird for kicking its kids out at 18 in a lot of cases, and much of South America, Europe, Africa, and Asia think we're crazy and mean spirited, which, culturally, we are!

[DjinnAndTonic]

I don't think there's that much kicking out. Most kids -want- to leave at 18. I certainly wanted to. I mean, my parents and I have a great relationship, but I wanted to get my own place as soon as I was able. Didn't happen until 20, but still.

[Sierra]

I didn't move out until I was 25. Granted, waiting until I'd paid off my car and student loan was probably the responsible decision.

[Cmdr_King]

I'd say that there's a definite stigma about living with your parents after high school in the States, which I get the impression isn't really a thing in some places.  So while it's actually rare for folks to kick their kids out, there's a general sense that they should and those who don't are being too soft on them, despite this being the majority (and only growing what with there being fewer and fewer middle class-type jobs since the late 80s or so.)

[Cotigo]

True, it's very much a cultural thing. The majority of Japanese college students and even 20-something adults I know live with their parents. I asked this one girl why she was still living with her parents at 27, and her response was basically, "Why wouldn't I be?"

This is one thing I'm pretty sure Americans get right though, although yes it is the much more expensive lifestyle if you don't have roommates. But I'd much rather live with friends than I would with parents? I mean, depending on the friends.

[Fenrir]

Western Europe is similar to America about this. I startef living on my own at 17.
In France we have a pretty well known movie called Tanguy about a guy who still lives with his parents at 27 , perfectly happy, and his parents finding him incredibly obnoxious and wanting him out, but feeling ashamed about the whole thing. It's great.

[Dhyerwolf]

True, it's very much a cultural thing. The majority of Japanese college students and even 20-something adults I know live with their parents. I asked this one girl why she was still living with her parents at 27, and her response was basically, "Why wouldn't I be?"

This is one thing I'm pretty sure Americans get right though, although yes it is the much more expensive lifestyle if you don't have roommates. But I'd much rather live with friends than I would with parents? I mean, depending on the friends.

I think we got it right to a degree. It's good because being away from your parents makes it a lot easier to actually become a functioning adult. It's causes a more global failure in that it can be incredibly wasteful and you lose a lot of benefits of community living (because you don't live with friends by the time that community living tends to reap the best rewards). I suspect that dwindling resources in the future could prompt a change in U.S. culture at some point in the future.

[DragonKnight Zero]

Phone goes off.  Look at the caller ID and assume it's that telemarketing machine that been repeatedly stalking me.  Activate kill mode.

Turns out it's someone I know and consider a friend.  Oh #^$#&!.  This will be messy to clean up.  Will start with apologizing and go from there.

[Veryslightlymad]

I think we got it right to a degree. It's good because being away from your parents makes it a lot easier to actually become a functioning adult. It's causes a more global failure in that it can be incredibly wasteful and you lose a lot of benefits of community living (because you don't live with friends by the time that community living tends to reap the best rewards). I suspect that dwindling resources in the future could prompt a change in U.S. culture at some point in the future.

More or less 100% my own sentiments/predictions, give-or-take. If you CAN move out, that's great. Forcing yourself when you probably can't is a great way to live in debt forever.
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SPEAKING of debt forever, I won the major part of my Unemployment appeal, and, I'm PRETTY sure I'm going to get about four thousand dollars in the near future. (How many times have I said that during this process?)

[Cotigo]

Wait what? You've been in an unemployment lawsuit?

EDIT: Blow all 4K on FFRK pulls. Show Magetastic who is boss

EDIT: Or was it Magic Fanatic? Pretend I said the correct person with the same goddamn name.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

4k would equal uh 139 11-pulls. Which does put in perspective how overpriced they are. Dear god, FFRK is so evil.

[Cotigo]

Yup. I'll be honest, I was tempted to do one paid 11-pull from the SSB fest a few weeks ago. Then I saw that it was 3000 yen and reaffirmed my vow that those fuckers won't get any of my money even though I've grown quite fond of the game (in spite of its evil, evil predatory practices)

[Grefter]

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[Fenrir]

Grown Ups 2 cost 80 millions to make.

4k is only 1/20 000ths of that, so you can definitely afford to throw 4k on FFRK guys

[AndrewRogue]

True, it's very much a cultural thing. The majority of Japanese college students and even 20-something adults I know live with their parents. I asked this one girl why she was still living with her parents at 27, and her response was basically, "Why wouldn't I be?"

This is one thing I'm pretty sure Americans get right though, although yes it is the much more expensive lifestyle if you don't have roommates. But I'd much rather live with friends than I would with parents? I mean, depending on the friends.

I think we got it right to a degree. It's good because being away from your parents makes it a lot easier to actually become a functioning adult. It's causes a more global failure in that it can be incredibly wasteful and you lose a lot of benefits of community living (because you don't live with friends by the time that community living tends to reap the best rewards). I suspect that dwindling resources in the future could prompt a change in U.S. culture at some point in the future.

We're starting to see a trend of continuing to live with ones parents at this point simply because not doing so in a lot of areas is becoming increasingly stupid simply due to rent costs. It is just way more intelligent to tank living at home for a few years, save a substantial amount of money as a result, and then be able to put that towards an actual home instead of renting for the rest of your damn life.

[Fenrir]

I'm cool with people who live with their parents for a long time, but if at 20 you decide to not be independant just to save money to buy a house later, you are way too uncool to be my friend, you dork