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The Royal Canadian Rando Tourney Final - Zeus vs. Ghandi
« on: April 30, 2015, 01:30:43 AM »
And so, we have reached the final event.  This time, instead of just one event, we have mashed two, Hatbot Approved, events together.  The first event is simple, the hundred meter dash, but at the end of that dash we have detonating a asteroid in space.  Both contestants will be forbidden from doing anything to the asteroid until they reach the end of the dash, but once there they can try and bust it to their heart's content.

Our first contestant is the man who won the team final and the pairs final single handedly, Zeus.  The leader of Olympus is now in a great position to finally finish it all off.  After all, there's no way he can be contested in the hundred meter dash.  Of course, after that is when the problems start.  Can his trademark lightning bolts smash an asteroid?  Could he leave the Earth to go into space to smash the asteroid?  Can his lightning bolts even leave the earth in order to do the job?  Though he is a sky god, he's still bound to the planet Earth, and asteroids are above even the sky.  And after that, there's a question of how long it will take for him to complete the job.

Against this is Ghandi, the man who had to be carried through the quarter and semi-finals, but who is well placed to win it all here.  He will, admittedly, lose the hundred meter dash badly.  But it's only a hundred meters, and at the end of that hundred meters is a big red button that will fire all the nukes.  While Zeus has questions both physical and metaphysical about his ability to destroy a space-bound asteroid, there are no questions about how well a civilization devoted to nuclear annihilation by an immortal tyrant will do against that same asteroid.

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Re: The Royal Canadian Rando Tourney Final - Zeus vs. Ghandi
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2015, 01:49:13 AM »
Zeus.  Godlike powers are going to be much more effective than nuclear missiles against asteroids.
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Re: The Royal Canadian Rando Tourney Final - Zeus vs. Ghandi
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2015, 02:25:19 AM »
Hmm.  From a Greek context, kinda hard to figure out proper asteroid analogues - Cronus / Saturn > Uranus where Uranus is the sky god, and Zeus > Cronus, and certainly the Greeks included the *stars* in the sky, so closer in stuff like asteroids would count too (hence dudes getting thrown up there as constellations and the like).  That said, if we're talking actual scientific asteroids, Gandhi *has* to win here.  Lightning doesn't really happen or do anything in the vacuum of space, and the Greek gods eat & breathe and aren't known for having access to spacesuits or space ships, while the end of a Civ game is building a spaceship to Alpha Centauri - certainly farther away than a mere asteroid.

That said, while Zeus is pretty well screwed vs. a scientific asteroid, luckily for him, all of the asteroids are actually gods, similar to Hermes / Mercury & Ares/Mars being planets.  If you kill the god, then logically speaking, the asteroid will be gone - maybe not 'detonated' exactly, but close enough.  Checking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exceptional_asteroids , Ceres/Demeter & Pallas Athen are pretty major, best leave them alone.  However....  Hebe?  Now that's promising.  Sure she's Zeus's own daughter, but she's basically the waitress goddess, totally killable.   Although that'd piss off Hercules, who Zeus is bros with, so maybe not after all.  Amphitrite...  the wife of Poseidon, whom Zeus doesn't particularly care about?  Now we're talking.  Shouldn't be too hard to explode her and thus explode her asteroid and then win the tournament.  (There's also apparently an asteroid named "Palma", and as we know from Phantasy Star, weird mythological gods can blow up Palm/Palma.)

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Re: The Royal Canadian Rando Tourney Final - Zeus vs. Ghandi
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2015, 06:48:44 AM »
If Zeus wins the hundred meter dash but Gandhi's nukes win the asteroid competition, how do I vote?

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Re: The Royal Canadian Rando Tourney Final - Zeus vs. Ghandi
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2015, 12:59:25 PM »
Who has the shortest combined time.

ie, it's obvious Zeus is gonna win the 100 Meter Dash, but I think that he's pretty earthbound, so his thunderbolts won't be all that awesome against space rocks, whereas nukes are super effective against those.  Also, it's only a hundred meters.  So, I think it's a slam dunk win for Ghandi

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Re: The Royal Canadian Rando Tourney Final - Zeus vs. Ghandi
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2015, 04:51:37 PM »
Yeah I have to agree, regardless of how amusing Snowfire's reasoning is.

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Re: The Royal Canadian Rando Tourney Final - Zeus vs. Ghandi
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2015, 01:58:25 AM »
Nuking an asteroid large enough to be worthy of this competition is a thing which actually doesn't work, despite all that Bruce Willis' heroics would have us believe. And the ones seen in Civ which Gandhi is famous for can't reach space at all, anyway. It's not completely crazy to fashion an argument out of "completely unexplained endgame Civ space travel tech would allow one to destroy asteroids" but it's still a weak argument to my mind. If we're going to put our faith in unexplained theorycraft I'm siding with the one with divine powers.

As such Snowfire's argument tilts the day for me pretty decisively. Zeus

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