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DL Twink League 2015, Week 1
« on: May 11, 2015, 06:24:29 AM »
This time around we'll be doing single-elimination format.  Disappointing I know, but some... additional entertainment is planned for after the tournament and I think that will make up the gap.  Tied-approved.

As before, all duellers with a twink setup will be marked with a *.  Please refer to This post for their final loadouts: several have small changes from how they were actually nommed just for ease of voting.

Blue (SaGa Frontier) vs Ramza Beoulve* (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Minato Arisato (Persona 3) vs Tiz Arrior* (Bravely Default)
Chimera (Breath of Fire III) vs Lenna Charlotte Tycoon* (Final Fantasy V)
Adamantoise (Final Fantasy XIII) vs Kimahri* (Final Fantasy X)

Zophar (Lunar: Eternal Blue) vs Alexia Lynn Elesius* (Wild ARMs XF)
Gawn Brawdia (Wild ARMs 4) vs Barret Wallace* (Final Fantasy VII)
Brahman (Digital Devil Saga 2) vs Cidolfas Orlandu* (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Yuna (Final Fantasy X) vs Claude Kenni* (Star Ocean: The Second Story)
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Re: DL Twink League 2015, Week 1
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2015, 06:55:47 AM »
Blue (SaGa Frontier) vs Ramza Beoulve* (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Hey, will Reflect Mail + 97% Blade Grasp + some status blocking hold Blue off?  Maybe?
Minato Arisato (Persona 3) vs Tiz Arrior* (Bravely Default)
To win, Minato / Yuki needs to both be seen as having his initiative be better than Bravely Second, and since Tiz is immune to damage anyway, have some sort of nasty status.

Adamantoise (Final Fantasy XIII) vs Kimahri* (Final Fantasy X)
Attacking the forelegs is madness, they'll regrow too quickly.  So Kimahri is just busting down the main body while being constantly overkilled by Quake.  This strategy will take approximately 3750 turns at minimum, possibly more like 5000 turns, plus the delays from dying.  (OD gets cleared on death, right?  So no Doom.)  I suppose that's fast enough to win before the PS2 breaks.  (I would vote for the boss if the PC's strategy involves such an insanely long length of time the player / console is dead in executing it, but this one is borderline.)

Zophar (Lunar: Eternal Blue) vs Alexia Lynn Elesius* (Wild ARMs XF)
Slice & dice.
Gawn Brawdia (Wild ARMs 4) vs Barret Wallace* (Final Fantasy VII)
1 HP Plus isn't enough.
Yuna (Final Fantasy X) vs Claude Kenni* (Star Ocean: The Second Story)
Tricky.  Claude's damage has a better argument than most to cut through Auto-Life, i.e. kill Yuna on the earlier hits then kill her again on the later hits.  Evade isn't really helpful here against multi-hits of INSANE damage (if all hit, it's like 5 PCHP+ damage, so Evade & Protect aren't stopping a OHKO every time).  A better strat might be some kind of Valefor Delay-lockdown if Bloody Armor isn't seen as immuning Delay while Claude dies to the Armor...  can you still get staggered while in it?
Anyway, Laggy/super/etc. want to say how often Claude needs to Energy Sword?  If just killing Yuna through auto-life is out, then it's down to resources.  Yuna's got 344 shots of Auto-Life, but probably needs to use it after every single Claude attack.
Leaning Claude ATM on just killing Yuna through Auto-Life, but coudl be argued, especially if Claude needs to Energy Sword really aggressively if he doesn't immune stagger/peep and having to worry about surprise Valefor. 

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Re: DL Twink League 2015, Week 1
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2015, 05:46:32 PM »
Blue (SaGa Frontier) vs Ramza Beoulve* (Final Fantasy Tactics)- Uh. No.


Gawn Brawdia (Wild ARMs 4) vs Barret Wallace* (Final Fantasy VII)-Uh. I think Gawn OHKOs here?

Yuna (Final Fantasy X) vs Claude Kenni* (Star Ocean: The Second Story)- Bloody armor immunes everything, including peep. Bad news: Evade and counter shuts Claude completely down. You could see ripper blast getting around auto life but eh. Claude's running out of MP here even so to me.
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Re: DL Twink League 2015, Week 1
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2015, 05:53:24 PM »
I believe OverDrive shuts down all blocking/counters, although I haven't tested this extensively so someone may want to confirm. Strong kneejerk is that Blade Grasp would not work... and even if it did, you'd also have to see Blue's entire spell loadout as reflectable, and given that FFT magic includes plenty of non-reflectable spells and Blue himself has access to (almost) every spell from his own game, it's pretty hard to argue against at least some of his full-screen high-end spells ignoring reflect... ReverseGravity for instance.

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Re: DL Twink League 2015, Week 1
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2015, 06:01:16 PM »
Blue (SaGa Frontier) vs Ramza Beoulve* (Final Fantasy Tactics) - nope.jpg
Minato Arisato (Persona 3) vs Tiz Arrior* (Bravely Default) - Oh lord. Minato has a bunch of very deadly status options besides his obscene damage. For starters, Status Boost Sexy Dance likely wrecks the hell out of Tiz, so does Die For Me!... but more importantly, I think he can inflict Rage, which Tiz can't block. Yeah, let's go with that. Bravely Second, though, is a thing. Not really sure how does it pan out. Eh.
Chimera (Breath of Fire III) vs Lenna Charlotte Tycoon* (Final Fantasy V) - Chimera ain't that great at durability. Lenna does that Lenna thing.
Adamantoise (Final Fantasy XIII) vs Kimahri* (Final Fantasy X) - uuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh

Zophar (Lunar: Eternal Blue) vs Alexia Lynn Elesius* (Wild ARMs XF) - Blouses.
Gawn Brawdia (Wild ARMs 4) vs Barret Wallace* (Final Fantasy VII) - Good lord, OHKO.
Brahman (Digital Devil Saga 2) vs Cidolfas Orlandu* (Final Fantasy Tactics) - dat multiacting.
Yuna (Final Fantasy X) vs Claude Kenni* (Star Ocean: The Second Story) - Yuna parks Yojimbo in front of Kenni, the two of them play children's card games to pass the time while Claude drains himself out.
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Re: DL Twink League 2015, Week 1
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2015, 06:46:48 PM »
Blue (SaGa Frontier) vs Ramza Beoulve* (Final Fantasy Tactics) - nope

Zophar (Lunar: Eternal Blue) vs Alexia Lynn Elesius* (Wild ARMs XF) - probably
Gawn Brawdia (Wild ARMs 4) vs Barret Wallace* (Final Fantasy VII) - nope
Yuna (Final Fantasy X) vs Claude Kenni* (Star Ocean: The Second Story) - nope

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Re: DL Twink League 2015, Week 1
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2015, 07:06:10 PM »
super: Yuna doesn't have Evade & Counter, this is DL Yuna not Yunaggy.

random: Did Yojimbo have perfect evade & counter, or merely very high evasion?  Very high evasion isn't enough here.

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Re: DL Twink League 2015, Week 1
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2015, 07:08:02 PM »
Perfect evasion, his stat is essentially maxed. In a sense, that's -better- than Evade & Counter, since it gets MT (which E&C doesn't).
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Re: DL Twink League 2015, Week 1
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2015, 07:41:46 PM »
Blue (SaGa Frontier) vs Ramza Beoulve* (Final Fantasy Tactics) - Blade Grasp is useless here, not seeing why it'd get hyped. Even if you let Ramza come in with 3 Faith or whatever Blue still utterly destroys him. And yeah, Reflect Mail isn't stopping a large portion of Blue's spells IMO anyway.
Chimera (Breath of Fire III) vs Lenna Charlotte Tycoon* (Final Fantasy V) - spess rocks
Yuna (Final Fantasy X) vs Claude Kenni* (Star Ocean: The Second Story) - Probably runs out of MP just dealing with the congo line spamming Shield, but Yojimbo seals the deal.
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Re: DL Twink League 2015, Week 1
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2015, 08:38:28 AM »
Blue (SaGa Frontier) vs Ramza Beoulve* (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Minato Arisato (Persona 3) vs Tiz Arrior* (Bravely Default)- Y'know what, I don't think Minato has any defense against Stop, so Tiz has an out to work around Second Wind shenanigans.  Simpler that way.
Chimera (Breath of Fire III) vs Lenna Charlotte Tycoon* (Final Fantasy V)
Adamantoise (Final Fantasy XIII) vs Kimahri* (Final Fantasy X)- ... sure.  Sure why not.

Zophar (Lunar: Eternal Blue) vs Alexia Lynn Elesius* (Wild ARMs XF)- I should probably see what the fuck Alexia's set was again but eh. 
Gawn Brawdia (Wild ARMs 4) vs Barret Wallace* (Final Fantasy VII)- Limit might, MIGHT trump Gawn's shenanigans.  But Barret isn't getting a chance to use it unless you hold Gawn to his opening barrage.
Brahman (Digital Devil Saga 2) vs Cidolfas Orlandu* (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Yuna (Final Fantasy X) vs Claude Kenni* (Star Ocean: The Second Story)
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Re: DL Twink League 2015, Week 1
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2015, 12:28:53 AM »
Blue (SaGa Frontier) vs Ramza Beoulve* (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Minato Arisato (Persona 3) vs Tiz Arrior* (Bravely Default): Bravely Seconds resolve first!
Chimera (Breath of Fire III) vs Lenna Charlotte Tycoon* (Final Fantasy V)
Adamantoise (Final Fantasy XIII) vs Kimahri* (Final Fantasy X)

Zophar (Lunar: Eternal Blue) vs Alexia Lynn Elesius* (Wild ARMs XF): Unlimited Blade Works.
Gawn Brawdia (Wild ARMs 4) vs Barret Wallace* (Final Fantasy VII)
Brahman (Digital Devil Saga 2) vs Cidolfas Orlandu* (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Yuna (Final Fantasy X) vs Claude Kenni* (Star Ocean: The Second Story): Yojimbro?

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Re: DL Twink League 2015, Week 1
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2015, 01:00:43 AM »
Blue (SaGa Frontier)- iiiiii vs Ramza Beoulve* (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Minato Arisato (Persona 3) vs Tiz Arrior* (Bravely Default)- ii
Chimera (Breath of Fire III) vs Lenna Charlotte Tycoon* (Final Fantasy V)- iiii
Adamantoise (Final Fantasy XIII) vs Kimahri* (Final Fantasy X)- ii

Zophar (Lunar: Eternal Blue) vs Alexia Lynn Elesius* (Wild ARMs XF)- iiiii
Gawn Brawdia (Wild ARMs 4)- iiiiii vs Barret Wallace* (Final Fantasy VII)
Brahman (Digital Devil Saga 2)- ii  vs Cidolfas Orlandu* (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Yuna (Final Fantasy X)- iiiiii vs Claude Kenni* (Star Ocean: The Second Story)
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