Author Topic: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper (Read 214071 times)

Cotigo · « **Reply #1125 on:** December 24, 2015, 09:02:53 AM »

FF7 event dropped. The timed missions (complete an Elite Stage with Cloud + whoever he can go on a date with in the Gold Saucer) are cute.

Also with this I now have 11 Blank Hero Souls, and I am missing exactly 11 characters from the roster. What I mean to say is, I have 0 blank hero souls and have everyone the game has ever released. So that's neat. Also back up to 125 mythril, 150 should be more than doable before holiday banners drop.

What would be hilarious is if there are no Holiday banners and DeNA is just taunting me. That'd be great.

EDIT: And with that, someone crafted their first Ultima!

... 5.25x2 Multiplier.

IT'S WEAKER THAN FLARE. Admittedly, being 2 hits lets it break the damage cap...... except they just updated it so every Summon can do that too. And it's much, much weaker than Bahamut.

This is on a spell that took 4 months for enough materials to be available to even just craft it assuming you cleared every bit of content in that time. The fuck, DeNA?

EDIT 2: I am reading the FFRK subreddit because I hate myself. So many people complaining about getting Thyrus when they were trying for Rinoa's SSB. Guuuuuuuuys. Y'all dumb.

Shale · « **Reply #1126 on:** December 24, 2015, 02:13:21 PM »

Looking at the banners I'm thinking the current one is what'll get my 100 Mithril. Blade Beam would be my best possible pull from the event assuming I do get Cloud's second cap break, I could really use Sentinel Grimoire, and the undercard stuff is still at least okay.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1127 on:** December 24, 2015, 04:08:50 PM »

Yeah, banner 2 has a great mix of physical weapons to go along with Sentinel's Grimoire and the mage weapon on it ain't bad either. It also looks more attractive for those who haven't landed Thyrus on the first banner.

Shale · « **Reply #1128 on:** December 24, 2015, 04:24:15 PM »

First draw: 9X 3 star, Runeblade, Power Sash. It's not exactly the mitigation SB I was hoping for, but I can use it without Tyro so it's better than a poke in the eye, plus it lets me use Protectga without spending all my Greater Earth Orbs making Protectga.

Edit: Second draw gave me four 4 stars but only one 5: Tiger Fangs. Meeeeeeeeeh. It's FF7 synergy other than the Gold Sword, at least. I also got a second Warrior's Blade so I can make an FFX 4+, that's not nothing.

Meeplelard · « **Reply #1129 on:** December 24, 2015, 04:52:35 PM »

I was feeling lucky so I did a 900 Gem pull on the 2nd banner...

...and got Sentinel Grimoire. I'm not allowed to complain, am I?

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1130 on:** December 24, 2015, 05:20:45 PM »

Ashe's Runeblade? Man, that's a nice draw for your battle mage and it doubles as a minor AoE heal. It's also great in Terra's hands. The Power Sash is also one of the best Light Armors around with that +10 Attack in addition to Protectga SB.

EDIT: Meeple: no, you're not.

Shale · « **Reply #1131 on:** December 24, 2015, 05:35:02 PM »

Power Sash is also the only 5 star armor I've found that's not a mage equip. So yeah, handy.

Cotigo · « **Reply #1132 on:** December 25, 2015, 10:14:00 AM »

Been a day of RK I tell you hwat.

Cleared the FF7 event through the Ultimate fight, watched videos of the Ultimate+ Boss Rush... looks actually doable, I mean compared to the mess that's Kuja's Ultimate+ fight. May do it.

Couple special events dropped, one a super easy Ultros fight that netted me an extra 6 mythril, and the Battle on the Big Bridge event too. Kefka was pretty easy, mostly notable for countering physicals and one of the mastery reqs being not getting countered more than 8 times, so I went Terra/Kefka/Mog/Aeris/Ramza. His counter rate was much lower than I expected, but whatever.

More importantly than any of that, data for the holiday banners came up. All BSSB banners, it looks like. Banner one is almost a total wash (no hastegas, featured BSSB is Cecil's), 0/8.

Banner 2 also largely sucks but notably has Fran's Fullbreak SSB and Edea's SB, which is Magic Up and Hastega, which could be nice if they start swinging back Magewise on the Meta. However, that's the only equipment there worthwhile. Yuna's BSSB is notably a lot weaker than Cloud's and Squall's, but the 5* guns would be nice. 3/8

Banner 3 is where it gets fun. Cloud's BSSB, Ramza's Yell, Agrias' Defense/MDef Down SB, and 3 different Hastega SBs (Zack, Tidus, and Ignus). Out of the 8 relics here, 6 would be a vast help to my team. 6/8

Banner 4. Scream and Stoneraskin. I can stop my analysis now. Additionally, literally everything on this banner looks like it would be a nice addition to my arsenal. The weak links are Basch and Vincent's, and even those are serviceable. 10/8

Banner 5. Terra Waifu banner, Meeple will throw 500 mythril at it and get 2 more Sentinel Grimiores. Seriously though, lot of good stuff here. The star is obviously Sentinel Grimiore and Terra and Tidus BSSBs, but Selphie's Dream Stage, Celes' Excalibur, Yuffie's MaxHP% heal, Beatrix's Rose of May and Zack's Air Strike are all good. Vaan is the weak link here, for sure. 7/8.

Banner 4 is getting all of my mythril, easily, and would be even if Scream and SRS were the only good things on the banner. The fact that EVERYTHING is good is just a bonus. with the Big Bridge event and the amount of time I have until Banner 4, 200 mythril isn't unreasonable. Banner 3 may get a 15 mythril pull or two if it's not going to detract from the number of 11 pulls I can do on Banner 4. So many hastega relics and Yell is really tempting.

Banner 5... eh, we'll see. If I get Scream but not Thyrus, I may throw some mythril at it. If I get Thyrus but not Scream I can't really justify it, Thyrus + SG is really redundant.

EDIT: Hahahahaha OK Banner 4 is even better than I thought.

Tyro's BSSB changes Attack/Defend commands to ATK/MAG and DEF/RES Breakdowns. Yes. Really. Bartz's SB is like Squall's but the attacks are Dual Elemental, so they're strictly better than Squall's since you effectively get 4 elements.

Just. Wow.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1133 on:** December 25, 2015, 02:24:47 PM »

Prepare for the deluge of Reddit posts yelling about forgetting the next SSB celebration three months from now and saving all Mythril for this one, six months away.

Cotigo · « **Reply #1134 on:** December 25, 2015, 02:31:35 PM »

To be fair, assuming you have Wall and are still clearing Ultimate fights, you kinda are. Well, at least, you are legit better off saving all of your mythril from then until the Ramza/Agrias banner a month and a half down the line. Ramza's OP.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1135 on:** December 25, 2015, 02:59:42 PM »

Yeah, but that's not a majority. I mean, in my case I pretty much have no objective reason to pull on banners without SSBs anymore, but I look at those people with like five 5*s total advocating for that and man, is that depressing. Also, pulling for people you -like- is a plain reality as well. I know Yuna's BSSB ain't great, but I'm still likely to pull for it when it comes. Same for her SSB. I already have two relics for her, but eh.

Cotigo · « **Reply #1136 on:** December 25, 2015, 03:07:55 PM »

True, if you don't have a lot of relics, you need to pull when you can. I only stopped once I had plenty of serviceable 5*s. And, trust me, I get the Waifu Pull. I used like 150 mythril trying to get Maduin's Horn or Celes' Excalibur on Relm's event. That doesn't mean hoarding for Ramza/Agrias' banner isn't the objectively smarter choice assuming you're otherwise set.

EDIT: TBF, It does help that I'd totally Waifu Ramza. Dem C4 Pants be explosive, yo.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1137 on:** December 25, 2015, 03:19:35 PM »

Oh, definitely. I'm just glad I now have a damned complete set to the point I could spend three months not pulling for anything and still be completely fine. A nice perk about getting native Wall/Hastega/heals is that it also raises the value of quirkier RW SBs. I wanted Lulu's Hairpin very bad, for instance, but now that I have Stoneskin II, I can just slap a few Focus RWs on my list instead and use them for fights where I want to mage meta. I'm planning to test this out on Ultimate Exdeath next week and expect stellar results if nothing else.

Cotigo · « **Reply #1138 on:** December 25, 2015, 04:22:32 PM »

Oh yeah, the day when my Friend's list isn't DJ (who is running Aeris' Reraise SSB instead of SG, the prick), a handful of Ramzas, and 80 rando SG/SRSs will be a weird day indeed.

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FF13 Odin dropped in the Big Bridge event. Haven't cleared it yet, though he's not so hard I'm just throwing my hands up and quitting. First try, I threw in Kefka with the new Darkness skills to do SCIENCE!!, and found out that Memento: Mori doesn't cancel out other dooms (meaning, 60 second Doom doesn't reduce to 45 Second Doom), so it literally has no downside on bosses like this. Notably, this boss boosts his MDef at 75% HP probably because of this. K.

Really can't decide if Scream or SGSRS is the better RW here. Odin hits HARD without Wall, but cranking out enough damage with 3 unhasted characters in 30 seconds is looking, uh, bleak. I may want to go SGSRS and have 4 fighters, putting Attack Song on Ramza to boost my damage.

Getting flashes of what made me really start to like about this game with this fight. The correct party/equipment composition isn't super obvious and requires some thought, but it isn't so hard that it literally cannot be done without SBs I lack after playing the game like it's a fuckin' second job for the last 4 months. If they REALLY want to make Ultimate+ fights out of reach for everyone except the whales, fine. Business is business. But it'd be nice if the Ultimate fights were closer to this difficulty and less "Oh let me hone these skills then use the exact same party I always use."

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1139 on:** December 25, 2015, 06:35:49 PM »

Odin heavily emphasizes multi-hit physicals from my memory, though Ultimate fights often expand on skillsets. If that remains the case, you could have a PC with high defense rocking Draw Fire, since its Def boost stacks with Protectga. Retaliate isn't a great idea lest you have a synergy XIII weapon, though, so you can have your Knight rocking an offensive ability in tandem with DF. FFXIII Eidolon fights really ask for a Hastega relic/RW due to the Doom-enforced time limit, so if you can run that, it'll be pretty nifty. Don't skimp on magical mitigation, though, since his AoE also hurts.

EDIT: Tangentially, Reraise cheeses Doom. Relevant for you, since you have Aerith's SSB.

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #1140 on:** December 26, 2015, 01:59:30 AM »

Banner 3 drops. As I'm one of the only players drawing on it, I pull the Force Saber and Polymorph Rod. If I'd nabbed Golem Flute somehow it'd be beyond amazing, but my first SSB and a boost to FFIV synergy is still excellent. Debating whether to sink remaining mythril into one of the last two banners or just to save up for the beginner banner at this point, for all I'm not 100% sure what I want off it.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1141 on:** December 26, 2015, 02:55:10 AM »

Wow, -someone- for whom Tidus will remain relevant for a couple months ahead.

Cotigo · « **Reply #1142 on:** December 26, 2015, 04:55:08 AM »

Mastered Odin. Got kinda lucky. I did in fact have some FF13 synergy in the form of a dagger, so I tried Come At Me Bro not really expecting it to work, because it really neuters my damage otherwise. That said, his big attack (Heaven Strike?) isn't Reta-able, but does respect Taunt, so fortunately Gilgamesh is pretty tanky. His other big attack, 4x Strike, IS reta-able, though, and went off twice, netting me a cool 3500*8 damage, which is probably about as much as he would have done with Banish Raid over the course of the fight, so hey.

Party ended up being

Ramza (Full Break, Power Breakdown)
Zack (Indoor Spell, Drain Strike)
Agrias (Vanish Raid, Protectga)
Gilgamesh (Come At, Me Bro)
Aeris (Shellga, Curaja)
Scream RW

Now, what would have been smarter, and would have been give Agrias the dagger, put Taunt on her, and put Drain Strike on her, since that would have given me enough synergy to heal from Heaven Strike. I'd still need protectga, but I now have two protectga relics, so I could have put my Attack Ribbon on Gilgamesh and combined that with Mako Might. Well, I probably would have swapped Gilgamesh for Faris, actually, so I could have access to more Breakdowns. But regardless, it worked this way so whatever.

Re: Reraise. I'm aware that I have it, and I'm aware that it cheeses out doom, but... honestly Reraise is basically false hope if your whole party gets offed in higher level content. Don't get me wrong, having reraise is strictly better than not having reraise, but consider this. When you revive, you revive with 25% HP AND ALL buffs cancelled. So, best case scenario, only one person dies and you're frantically trying to get your mitigation back up and heal back up to a survivable HP before they get RNG-offed, and you lose some turns you could be using to do other things. Worst case scenario, which happened every time I tried to just YOLT through Doom, is everyone dies at the same time and the boss uses an unmitigated MT attack next turn that wipes you out regardless.

Reraise gets much more utility from being a safety net in case a single person dies. In lower level content it could be used to just cheese past doom, and in higher level content it can be used to cheese past party-killing moves that also cause the boss to Suicide (thinking Demon Wall 12 here), but it's not even that good as a last line of defense for full party survivability.

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #1143 on:** December 26, 2015, 05:24:40 AM »

Quote from: Jo'ou Ranbu on December 26, 2015, 02:55:10 AM

Wow, -someone- for whom Tidus will remain relevant for a couple months ahead.

I know! Honestly he... kinda needs something, unless Celerity's got something besides fucking Quick Hit coming up for relevant 5 star abilities. Still, Indoor Spell is... what, two and a half weeks? So while his base skillset is pretty weak the SSB burst is enough to keep him party-worthy at least.

DjinnAndTonic · « **Reply #1144 on:** December 26, 2015, 07:01:08 AM »

A SSB is awesome. A physical SSB is even better. Especially since now you know where to throw all those Rosetta Stones. I was hoping for any of the physical SSBs during the fest but unless banner 5 pays off, I've already missed out in my designated pulls thus far. I DID snag a Skycutter, Runeblade 12 and another Butterfly sword 9, so at least I've got some crazy good gear that fills in some holes in my inventory, but a physical SSB would just be a nice leg up on future events.

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #1145 on:** December 26, 2015, 07:13:45 AM »

Oh god yes, I had 4 rosetta stones in inventory and they are all on that sword now.

Cotigo · « **Reply #1146 on:** December 26, 2015, 01:43:25 PM »

JP Orb fest, yay.

Did some math, looks like I can juuuuuust barely reach 200 mythril by the time Banner 4 hits if I skip one of the Orb phases (but still clear them once to get the mythril). Debating skipping Summon/Earth/Ice or White/Fire/Dark. I have plenty of MDOs and MWOs, but Fires are always nice... that said, after the free MFOs I get for mastery, I'll have enough for R3 Meteo, and then I kinda don't care. Similarly, I have a ton of MEOs, but if I farm phase 1 I can get R2 Saint's Cross AND R3 Meteo, I need a ton of MIOs for R3 Full Break, and MSOs are the rarest Orb by far, and I could potentially get to R2 Bahamut which would be fun, or R4 valefor which would be practical. I could also cut into my Phase 3 time, but that's Wind + Black Power so lolno.

Well after writing that paragraph I'm not debating anymore. C'mon Summon orbs.

On that note, in less than 90 stamina I got two Giant Cactaurs and in less than 120 I got those + 2 regular cactaurs, so, neat. They were Earth orbs, but hey. It's nice to be in an orb fest again.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1147 on:** December 26, 2015, 03:41:57 PM »

Orbfests are so glorious. Speaking of which, since I have a bunch of leftover gems for stamina refreshes, I decided to do a minor RNG experiment right after getting a run with two Gigantuars dropping major orbs and a Cactuar dropping a Greater Orb in a single fight and tossed a cult-of-3 to banner 3 of SBS. End result: two 5*s, one being an Estharian Helmet and the other Tellah's Polymorph Rod. I guess I can cover almost literally every mage niche now with two whips (granted, only one of them is really a mage whip since Ochu Tentacle has 75 MAG, but I guess it's another ranged option for Faris), a thrown weapon, two staves, Golbez's Rune Axe and -seven- rods, not to mention the myriad hats. I really need to start rolling on physical banners.

Captain K · « **Reply #1148 on:** December 26, 2015, 04:08:14 PM »

RNGesus smiling on me also, already got two Major Power Orbs since last night. I can craft Full Break now, but I think I'll hold off unless I feel I actually need it. Would rather save the orbs for Explosive Fist.

Meeplelard · « **Reply #1149 on:** December 27, 2015, 12:52:37 AM »

Beat Omega, mastered! I actually had to do 2 attempts. First one, I wouldn't have needed if I had ONE move difference:

Pound instead of Mental break.

See, here's what happened: he got down to pixel rage. Any decent blow would have killed so Cloud has Mental Break queued, that should be enough! *miss* No, Cloud was NOT blinded here, he just missed on the rare chance. If it was Pound, it would have hit and I'd have one.

The 2nd time, I had Planet Protector instead of Medica II as my RW, so Cloud/Squall were hitting much harder and I didn't have to time as much with stops, and won through that.

Team was Terra w/ Thundaja/Thundaga, Y'shtola w/ Reflect/Stop, Tellah w/ Esuna/Stop (weird choice, yes, but first character I stumbled across who I knew could use both), Cloud w/ Thundara Sword/Pound, Squall w/ Thundaga Sword + Thunder Sword (yes, Thunder Sword; wasn't using those 2* Orbs and with weakness it was still better than anything else he could use.)

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