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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2875 on: June 21, 2016, 05:47:04 PM »
Finished the event tuhs far including Cid Missions.  For the solo Jecht one, I needed to use a Mithril Refresh because I didn't want to S/L every single encounter to insure Jecht minimized damage.  yes, I COULD have brought Chakra there, and probably should have but I'm not making a single low level skill just for an event like that, I'll spend the single Mithril of my 260+ just to get through it.

Also going back to the Edgar/Sabin event to finish the Cid Mission I botched there.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2876 on: June 22, 2016, 01:41:12 AM »
Pushed Doga and Unne's shits in with the single target crew (RamBaRelTiTy), was EZ. Fragment Dungeon Arhiman actually gave me some trouble since I forgot to switch Ramza to Full Break from Banish Raid.

I realized I probably now have the appropriate synergy to take down the Fragment Dungeon Magus Sisters with the Cid's mission, and did that too. Not as much of a joke as Tidus made the recent FFX U+ fight, but not by much.

With that done, and me with shout, I'll probably go get Ifrit FINALLY taken care of this afternoon.  Otherwise, the Fat Chocobo Major orbs aren't really that enticing this week, so I'll probably actually just level in the FF3 Sundaily dungeon all week. It's actually only 10k less EXP per round than normal Sundailies, abd with synergy my FF3 crew benefits a lot. Plus, to actually unlock Onion Knight's full potential, I need 6 more Onion Medals, and I can get them there.

Also, Terra is now L99 and I have her Devotion Plus RM. Is good.

Edit: oh, yeah, fun fact. Desch did not even have an MC2 until this event.

The number of people who care: 0.

Even Meeple and I can probably agree on that.

Edit 2: Oh, huh. Record dive gives Tidus Spellblade 3.

So long story short I finally beat Fragment Ifrit.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2877 on: June 22, 2016, 04:33:19 AM »
I'd care if he'd started with support 4!
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2878 on: June 22, 2016, 06:28:59 PM »
[12:20] <MagicFanatic> Let's see...  Beating up Ultima Buster is worth...  4121 XP per 1 Stamina per character, about 6182 instead if they have Black 5.  Considering Sundailies, this is...  Considering party slots being taken up and ninjas not getting synergy bonuses...  About three times as efficient?

This does, of course, assume that you have a natural Runic or Hastega as-is, and if you can only get one, you can supply the other with a RW.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2879 on: June 23, 2016, 03:03:55 AM »
Burstfest starts Saturday, with Cecil's Excalibur as the big prize for round 1 and Peacemaker, Excalibur VI and Chocobo Brush also in the mix. The Big Bridge Boss Bonanza kicks off the same night. Fun weekend ahead!
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2880 on: June 23, 2016, 10:38:01 AM »
Burst Soul Breakout banners are out and wow, I'm underwhelmed. Good utilitarian selection, but all banners but 5 have at least two relics I already have (Banner 4, which is amazing on paper with Bartz BSB, Shout, Apocalypse Shield, Faris' ATK+MAG debuff and -two- other Hastega relics, suffers from me having Excalibur, Genji Blade, Sorceress' Crown and Shout itself). This said, banner 5 has tons of stuff I could use (FF7 BSB sword, FF6 BSB rod, FF12 SSB, HotE, Kaiser Shield, Grand Armor and Sentinel's Grimoire). Only relative dud would be Fairy Flute and at least that'd be a MND +10 for Eiko.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2881 on: June 23, 2016, 11:29:35 AM »
I'm not quite in the same boat, but there's still a bunch of repeats for me. Banner 4 is definitely the champ, but I've got enough mythril to throw around that I'll do a pull on 3 in hopes of Keeper's Grimoire, a couple on 5 (unless I snag Keeper's Grimoire) and at least one on 1 because I really want Indomitable Blade.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2882 on: June 23, 2016, 01:05:55 PM »
I have several relics on each too, I think Banner 5 is the best for me since I only have EIko's Fairy Flute and Sentinel Grimoire from there.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2883 on: June 23, 2016, 01:35:46 PM »
I'm think of either doing 1 pull on banner 1, and 3 on banner 4...

Or

Splitting each banner 2 pulls a piece.

I don't have many dupes in here, so anything I snag will instantly help. Still searching for my first bsb.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2884 on: June 23, 2016, 01:54:30 PM »
Don't forget Kain's SSB will come in banner 1 of Adult Rydia event, which -also- has Cecil's Excalibur. If you're aiming specifically for that on banner 1, I'd wait, since that FF4 banner is simply stupendous and it's only two and a half weeks away.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2885 on: June 23, 2016, 01:58:14 PM »
Oh. Well that changes things. Hmm

Maybe I'll just drop 100 on banner 4 then.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2886 on: June 23, 2016, 04:48:30 PM »
Looking at y'alls banners, B4 once again is the real winner. B1 and B5 are both really good runners up, too.

Keeper's Tome, unfortunately, is on a banner with a lot of duds. Which is too bad, since how well it compacts your mitigation is just an amazing boon, and its reduction burst abilities are a very nice icing on that cake.

It's going to be really interesting on how much common RWs in Global deviate from those in JP jist because Keeper's Tome is on its own banner and isn't on Banner 4.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2887 on: June 24, 2016, 01:01:41 AM »
I want everything on Banner 4 except Sage Staff (already own) and Kogarasamaru (still decent for synergy). Definately the only thing I'll spend mythril on this celebration.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2888 on: June 24, 2016, 04:10:17 AM »
Blah.  Cleared but didn't master Yunalesca: misread her medal conditions and didn't hit her with a magic break.  Which is just trolling, that doesn't even DO anything to her!  Worst designed fight in AGES though, she spams insta-cast offense that's immune to half of mitigation, amazingly dumb.  Whatever, I'll have to redo it because Major Power.

Did a rough clear of Jecht with a non-Cid's party.  I did just draw Auron's Riot Blade, and have long since had Tidus' Jecht Shot.  I don't have anything for Yuna, and Lulu's Focus is my other FFX SB, so... mmm.  Have Rikku sling around support dances (although I think I'd have to make some), run Yuna with Alexander/Curaja?  It's feesible at least, although on the whole it feels like a bad time.  Eh, I'll run it once or twice after Yunalesca is properly mastered and see how it goes.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2889 on: June 24, 2016, 04:24:34 AM »
Ultimate Yunalesca beaten using Mage Meta, no real curveballs other than Terra using Silencega as her 2nd move, and Lulu swapping from Blizzaja (Go To Aja thanks to Ice Staff) to Waterja for obvious reasons.
The only thing notable was that I had to learn some timing thanks to the 3rd Phase often starting when my Mitigation starts to drop, so just wanted to time a Heavy Regen RW/Soul Break to kick off right after Hellbiter, which should be enough time to stop ST Holies (MT Holies hit regardless) and get Mitigation up until the next Hellbiter.  On the winning run, I realize IN HINDSIGHT "wait, why am I casting Sentinel Grimoire on turn 1?  She's completely neutered by Silence!"  Oh well.

Did the Cid Mission for BFA.  Initially went with Tidus, Yuna, Auron, Lulu and Rikku thanks to Soul Breaks.  Yuna runs Diaga, so Rikku covers Protectga with Envoloping Etude.  I screw up the initial run since I just did a Favorite setting and forgot Lulu's using Trash Clearing moves, oops!  In an attempt to redo it, I realize it's just easier to bring Braska, who can run Diaga for the Requirement, so I egg him up (and Rikku too for that matter, because why not get her to level 65?  She was already 63 granted), equip him with Bahamut and Diaga, and...proceed to fail miserably beacuse Jecht Beam.  Ok, I actually got very close with this set up (Divine Guardian RW if you're wondering), down to a pixel, and I would have taken a non-mastery win, as I would have just returned with an A Team of like Beatrix, Vaan and Ramza and ripped him apart but alas, Tidus was slow'd and couldn't get one last hit in.

So I realize I just need to stop Jecht Beam from hitting hard since losing Rikku halfway into the fight is ultimately what got me (seriously, if she acted one more time, I'd have won! Magic Pixels are a bitch), so I end up using the following set up in what is my winning run:

Tidus: R4 Magic Break, R4 Lifesiphon, A +20% Sword Damage RM (he has Slice and Dice Soul Break)
Yuna: R2 Protectga, R5 Curaja, Mako's Might (she has Hymn of the Fayth)
Auron: R3 Mirror of Equity, R3 Lifesiphon, a +20% Katana Damage RM (has Banishing Blade SSB)
Braska: R2 Shellga, R4 Diaga, Summoner's Prayer (he was equipped for Mind, as you'd expect, so Diaga was doing 9k+)
Rikku: R3 Dismissal, R2 Thief's Revenge, Dragoon's Determination (has Machina Sabotage SB)
RW: Divine Guardian

Magic Break covers one condition, Auron and Rikku Soul Breaks cover the other (also while neutering a lot of his damage in the 2nd half of the fight), Braska hits weakness, Yuna heals.  In addition to this, Mirror of Equity used since I didn't have Shout (wanted to RW it but didn't show up), and made sure it's buff was up before a Banishing Blade went off.  Rikku's spams Dismissals until her Soul Break gauge is in hopes it kicks in, after which she goes to Thief's Revenge because hey, now she has a boosted attack so why not maximize that damage?  Braska Spams Diaga after casting Shellga and otherwise nothing else.

Winning run had Braska dying late in the fight, but ultimately didn't matter.  2 Medal loss, both on damage, so yeah, I'm good.

So what to do now? Murder Ark some more, of course!
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2890 on: June 24, 2016, 04:34:39 AM »
Ultimates beaten as well. Yunalesca I fed to the Celes variant of my non-SSII A team and didn't even bother to Silence, full-medaled in spite of the mass Holy spam. Ultimate+ Braska's Final Aeon... well. Here's the setup:

L80 Yuna (R4 Diaga/R5 Alexander/Battleforged)
L80 Wakka (R4 Power Breakdown/R3 Full Break)
L80 Auron (R3 Full Charge/R2 Mirror of Equity)
L80 Tidus (R4 Dismissal/R5 Armor Break)
L71 Braska (R5 Curaja/R2 Protectga)

RW: Mighty Guard VIII (Quistis)

Yeah, I decided to run slugfesting Yuna to take advantage of Farplane Wind+Holy weakness. It paid off pretty big, Enholy'd Alexanders, for starters, shaved off 14k off Jecht's health pretty much no strings attached. I handed Braska that FFX Mage's Staff with a shared heal and it was enough to work things out. Auron post-Mirror of Equity shaved off about 17k a pop as well and I got pretty lucky with turn-cancelling procs (Tidus landed three of them!). Power Breakdown and Full Break were enough to keep Jecht's damage survivable and Mighty Guard also helped a bunch against Jecht Beam. His low HP Overdrive seriously hurts, but I had enough offense to kill him before things got out of control. I didn't even use Hymn of the Fayth in the end. If you have Auron's Banishing Blade SB, I really can't imagine having serious trouble against BFA if you stack your breakdowns right. Lost one medal on damage, first-try mastery. First Cid's Mission was a success.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2891 on: June 24, 2016, 10:12:16 AM »
I'm kind of embarrassed to say that Yunalesca took me three failures before I stopped bringing gimmick parties and just brought something to kill her with.


Cid Mission + Mastery Party:
Tidus L79 - Dismissal R4/Power Break R4 - Pride of the Red Wings
Yuna L75 - Curaja R5/Protectga R2 - Knight's Charge (Hymn)
Auron L78 - Armor Break R4/Yukikaze R4 - Heroic Stance
Wakka L78 - Full Break R2/Magic Breakdown R3 - Secrets of the Qu
Braska L79 - Shellga R2/Diaga R5 - Healer's Prayer II
RW: Shout

Braska was shooting off 9K Diagas, sometimes getting 18K in a turn.  Tried the fight with DG once, didn't work.  I *needed* Shout to have the offense to kill BFA before it killed me.  Only two I had SBs for anyway was Yuna (who I used twice) and Braska (who didn't get to use his at all.  Granted, unless I had set him up for MAG and given him Devotion, he still would've only had the 6-hit version of Aeons of Wing and Flame.  The breakpoints for that SSB are way too high) and the rest just did whatever.

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« Reply #2892 on: June 24, 2016, 12:35:03 PM »
OSB fest in Japan announced.  Terra, Vaan, Bartz, Hope, and Tyro get OSBs, with a reissue of Tidus'.  In addition, some new BSBs on these banners too, like Agrias, Edge, and Warrior of Light.

The OSBs are about what you expect; Terra gets Fire/Non Magic, Hope gets Holy/Non Magic, Bartz gets 4 elements because they seem obsessed with that aspect of his EX Burst from Dissidia lately, Tyro gets MT Atk/Def/Res/Mag up (probably +15% since it says "small") which I can only assume stacks with everything, on top of doing damage (non-elemental), Vaan gets the most interesting in that it does increased damage based on # of breaks applied to the enemy.  I assume it checks based off "is this stat lowered?" and not individual break values.

To compliment Vaan's further, they created Mind Break (Combat 3) and Mind Breakdown (Support 4)...outside of Holy, and the rare healing spell, not sure where that'd be useful so I feel like it was made specifically FOR Vaan.

New BSBs, nothing too elaborate at least for the entry attack; Warrior of Light gets a variant of Cecil's, Agrias gets Imperil Holy instead of En-Holy, and Edge gets an En-Water one.

New 5* Summon which is Dark elemental in Ultima Weapon.  Points for...different?  I think it's based off the FF10 one which would be weird since that's the most unmemorable by far; should have been the FF14 one because he has his own theme song!  Silliness aside, the decision of a Dark Elemental 5* sounds cool, and making Ultima Weapon a summon is thinking outside the box a bit, so yeah, cool stuff.
-Also a +35 Magic 6* Accessory.  Was wondering when those would show up!

Though with the 5* Summon being Dark Elemental, it makes me question what the 2nd 6* is going to be; I figured Anima as a Dark elemental attack, but that strikes me as not likely now. 


Also Ovelia gets her Record Sphere, because "Why not" apparently.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2893 on: June 25, 2016, 10:06:37 AM »
http://i.imgur.com/N3FJAG0.jpg

The waifu pull is real.

Also now I have Terra's Enfire SSB, her kinda lame BSSB, and her OSB, giving her +30 MAG and is by far my best single character in a vacuum.

I am OK with this.

Anyway, mulling over what banner to do my second (and last) 11 pull should be. Kinda want Krile's hastega for mage parties but pulling for one item on a banner is dumb. Mm. We'll see.

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« Reply #2894 on: June 25, 2016, 11:45:23 AM »
Pity you didn't get Maduin's Horn from the Tyro's banner to allow for a +40 Magic (the SSB itself is obviously useless now that you have her OSB)
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« Reply #2895 on: June 25, 2016, 12:52:23 PM »
Looking at my mythril-farming plans for the fest, I'm farther along with core dungeons than I realized -- just 18 more classics to clear out, and then a bunch of elites that will be annoying because of level 110+ trash. I'll still easily hit 400 before the end of the fest, but 450 (my original target) looks less likely. I'll live.
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« Reply #2896 on: June 25, 2016, 03:04:38 PM »
Oh wow, Terra OSB is 40x multiplier. That's a huge improvement over the 18x mage SSBs and BSB.

DeNA finally made a pure damage mage SB worth the hype.

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« Reply #2897 on: June 25, 2016, 04:44:45 PM »
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« Reply #2898 on: June 25, 2016, 06:05:09 PM »
As a reminder, Fighter OSBs (thus far) have been 12x damage, which is a 50% increase compared to the 8x damage physical SSBs.

That said, did some math crafting and Terra using Wrath x2 -> OSB does 13.3x damage over the course of 3 turns.  By contrast, Spamming Chain Firaga does 11.8x per turn.  So yes, it is strong enough to justify just building up gauge and using Burst damage.

Toss in something like Meltdown or Bahamut so she can do something on Turns where she's "ALMOST" got gauge and yeah, that's some pretty high DPS.

Additionally, if we assume Wrath x4 -> Fire Beam -> Trance Meltdown*, that's 86.1x damage over 6 turns, or 14.35x damage per turn.  For a comparison, Meltdown is 14.7x damage over 3 hits, and that's hard as sin to hone to boot.

*I don't care if it's called "Burning Flame", it's literally her using Meltdown from Dissidia after going Esper, so damn it, that's what I'm calling it!

Basically, if you only her OSB, she can do better than Chain -aga level damage per turn using just Wrath, which is only a 4* skill.  If you have both her Tiara and her Blood Sword, that's 6* level damage per turn, albeit takes time to set up and assumes she takes a few hits in the process since Wrath x2 is only 360 gauge; granted, Ace Strike boosts that to 540, but that means no damage boosting).  So she can do ridiculous damage and still have a free slot for some other skill, like Meltdown, an extra Breakdown, Dispel, etc.



Generally speaking, it's also worth noting this is the first time Mage Soul Breaks have been comparable to Physical Soul Breaks in terms of Command to Soul Break ratio.  Just a general comparison (only using Single Target for simplicity):

Physicals (using Spellblades for reference):
3*: 1.8
4*: 2.1
5*: 3
6*: 4.2~

Unique SB ST (modern): 5.1~ (Blazing Rush, which is the basically the "standard" for this tier of Soul Break)
SSBs ST: 8~ (Blasting Zone for reference)
BSB ST Commands: 2.4~
OSBs: 12

Uniques are roughly 3x that of a 3* skill, SSBs are 4x that of a 4* and OSBs follow suit.   The jump from Unique to SSB is not just a case of SSBs being really strong, but also physical progression being much slower.  Worth noting that SSBs are only 2.5x that of a 5*.  OSBs are just below 3x of a 6*, and 4x that of a 5*.


Magic:
Aga: 4.9
Aja: 9
Chain -aga: 11.8
Meltdown: 14.7

Unique SB: 9~ to 12~ (Angel Wing Bolt is 9x while Nightglow is 11.2x)
SSBs: 18~
BSB Commands: 10.4~
OSBs: 40~

Uniques range 1.8 to 2.4x that of an Aga, which is a notable increase, but nowhere near that of a Physical vs. a corresponding unique.  An SSB is double an Aja, way lower than the physicals "near 4x" comparison, and is about 50% stronger than a Chain -aga, which again, nowhere near the 2.5x that physicals had.  OSBs?  Have the same 4x that of 5* that a physical has, and the same "almost triple a 6*" aspect.

I think they finally realized that the Mults of Soul Breaks need to be proportional for Mages to keep up.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2899 on: June 25, 2016, 11:16:16 PM »
I'm so very tempted to pull on Banner 3, just because of Red's Comb and Tyro's BSB...  Banner 4 for Bartz's BSB/Edea Hat, Banner 5 for Terra's BSB/Agrias Shield/Balthier SSB...  Banners 1 and 2 also have some interesting stuff (like Tidus's BSB and Celes's SSB) Aad I only have 190 Mithril.

I also need to consider pulls for other stuff.

Guys, this might be a problem for me.