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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #550 on: November 04, 2015, 08:43:28 AM »
Did the new Wednesdailies, collected sweet Mythril and Greater Orbs along the way. S'pose I'll get those bonus quests for Greater Growth Eggs out of the way today, before Celes' reissue lands. Since I'll need to use both Setzer and Celes for this event, may as well pick up some shelled XP for them.

EDIT: Also, I'm mentally six years old.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #551 on: November 04, 2015, 09:43:23 AM »
I'm trying to parse what that even is and failing.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #552 on: November 04, 2015, 09:46:35 AM »
Looks like Hope running from Vanile, then Vanile crashing into Isaaru for some reason then jumping and landing on Hope?

I don't get it. Is this memes?

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #553 on: November 04, 2015, 09:52:20 AM »
Dumb reddit memes doing a horrible pun with Hope's event (called, in Global, "Chasing Hope"). As I said, I'm six years old.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #555 on: November 04, 2015, 11:48:06 AM »
Crossing out old elite dungeons yet again in order to collect Greater Growth Eggs. Dear lord, early dungeon design was so stupid. Why did Figaro Castle need to have five stages? Why is it a 51 difficulty dungeon among the very first batch of unlocked content, which jumps back to 20 difficulty after Mt. Kolts? Hell, why does it have trash that hits as hard as a typical difficulty 90 dungeon? Going back to the darkest age of this game really weirds me out.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #556 on: November 04, 2015, 12:10:40 PM »
The worst sin was one of FF4's. Fabul Castle dungeon, I think it was. In the age of autobattle, that one makes you hit 7 different 1-round trash stages. oh my fucking god why are you making me hit more buttons when I can just autobattle through these stages.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #557 on: November 04, 2015, 12:25:54 PM »
Fabul Castle is simply undefendable. Doesn't help that FF4 dungeons in general have the most annoying fights and target score gimmicks throughout, either. The bad design is strewn all over the game's representation, which is really the worst thing to be faithful to.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #558 on: November 04, 2015, 01:01:47 PM »
Literally the thing that made me overcome the OCD treadmill addiction.  Note: I have a very strong weakness to that addiction.

Who knew the cure was a mix of needing to be a better human being than Zenny, FF4 and shit game design?
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #559 on: November 04, 2015, 01:12:05 PM »
Doing bonus events for exp eggs before setzer cones out.

Hope I get his relic, cause I'd like for him to be more support unit.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #560 on: November 04, 2015, 01:19:17 PM »
Setzer's character relic (of a UNIQUE weapon type ONLY HE can use and they didn't even give him another SB as of now. Seriously, they even gave him thrown weapons, what the fuck?) is so goddamn insulting it doesn't even really change his game -at all-. He's literally FF6 Wakka with a considerably worse relic SB and the option of swords. DeNa really has it in for FF6 PCs not named Terra, Celes and Mog (and even the latter two are a more recent endeavor).

As for the rest of the banner set... uhhhhhhh it's less trashy than Terra's reissue. This says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #561 on: November 04, 2015, 01:20:34 PM »
Fabul Castle is okay as a one-off.  Seems like they quickly learned it was a bad idea.  Still a great place to farm RM2s!

FF6 dungeons in general are way overtuned.  Mt. Kolts is the hardest dungeon in the game.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #562 on: November 04, 2015, 01:26:32 PM »
Fabul Castle is okay as a one-off.  Seems like they quickly learned it was a bad idea.  Still a great place to farm RM2s!

FF6 dungeons in general are way overtuned.  Mt. Kolts is the hardest dungeon in the game.

Some of them seem actually -bugged-. Some dataminers noted on Mt. Zozo that enemy stats spike wildly between stages in that dungeon, for instance. Mt. Kolts, as you noted, is also bizarrely brutal. Those Elite Dark Wings hit harder than Elite Shinra Cargo ship mooks, which are almost double the difficulty value of that one dungeon.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #563 on: November 04, 2015, 01:55:58 PM »
I use fabul castle to reset my roaming warrior.

That's why it's there right?
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« Reply #564 on: November 04, 2015, 02:02:10 PM »
Considering Fabul Castle was one of the release dungeons and Roaming Warriors didn't show up until much later, nope, just incidental meta.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #565 on: November 04, 2015, 06:06:51 PM »
So I switched my RW to Celes and her relic.

Let's see if I can get more then 600 bucks out of this!
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #566 on: November 04, 2015, 06:37:33 PM »
Probably less, Celes is insanely niche and mostly crazy useful for specific fights only. You should -never- set your RW with the purpose of getting gil anyway, the returns are pitiful even if it gets used a lot.

Speaking of FF6, got the Growth Egg pertaining Sabin's bonus quest. Recruiting him this way is such a -complete- gyp. Elite Mt. Kolts is a 91 stamina hell gauntlet of a dungeon that can work through the resources of a high-end ready party and then they hand you the worst monk in the game for your troubles. Well played, DeNa.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #567 on: November 04, 2015, 10:35:37 PM »
Just beat Alexander, relied on Draw Fire + Advantaliate because honestly, timed fight is stupid and annoying and I needed a sure way to do it and still needed S/L.  At least its' done, mastered, and screw the Event Quest.

Working on Mt. Koltz myself between event drops for the Greater Growth Egg, mostly didn't finish because 91 Stamina what the hell? Interestingly, I apparently already mastered that and don't know how I did it before, since my party is clearly way stronger now than it was when I tackled this and already 2 PCs are dead.
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« Reply #568 on: November 04, 2015, 10:47:30 PM »
Back when I did it in like early June, I had to blow a Mythril just to finish it because it's so grossly overtuned. Even now, those fucking Darkwings can 2HKO my mages without fuss unless I cast Protectga.
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« Reply #569 on: November 04, 2015, 10:48:16 PM »
What I really hate about FF4 dungeons in RK are all the high levelled, high HP trash who resist almost every element, some of whom can use AoE magic to boot. I assume that this dickery is inspired by the remake, since I sure as hell don't remember it from the original version (which didn't even have Water, Wind, or Earth as proper elements).

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #570 on: November 04, 2015, 10:51:39 PM »
I'm almost certain of that, since most of the relevant design in FF4 dungeons uses FF4DS as a basis. See the Four Fiends, for instance.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #571 on: November 05, 2015, 01:17:00 AM »
To be fair, most of the FF4 Bosses had the same gimmicks in FF4DS, just many of them were tweaked to be more annoying.  No guys, Rubicante having Scorch be MT and heal him is not fun, especially when elemental weakness is now 1.5x damage across the board instead of 2x on some enemies, 4x on others...and the "physical weapons ignore cape" feature is gone.

The one fight that had a change that I actually approve of is Golbez.  Making him a Barrier Change boss turned him from a generic fight where you start with dead PCs to a legit fight that encourages reviving the other characters, while being a defensive gimmick so you don't feel all "OH GOD I CAN'T RECOVER FROM THE PLOT STUFF!"  He's not worthless offensively, but you definitely feel like you have time to recover. 

Honestly, FF4 fights do tend to bug me as well.  Rubicante again pisses me off simply because of the Cape Mechanic is so annoyingly handled.  Not only do you have a charge time on everything possibly leading into smacking him when the cape is up, his cape coming down is a random chance, so you could be sitting ducks while he's just wailing on you if the RNG hates you.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #572 on: November 05, 2015, 01:41:08 AM »
P.S. the RNG hates you.
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« Reply #573 on: November 05, 2015, 02:05:34 AM »
There've been at least two fights vs Rubicante where he entered Cape mode within 2-3 turns, and just refused to leave it until the very end of the battle. It was especially dumb after HP bars were added and I could see that he's 80% dead when he finally left, almost all of it via Retaliate while he had his cape up.

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« Reply #574 on: November 05, 2015, 02:18:15 AM »
P.S. the RNG hates you.

Record Keeper in a nutshell.
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