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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #750 on: November 18, 2015, 01:21:57 PM »

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #751 on: November 18, 2015, 01:25:51 PM »
Well, time to make a sacrifice to the RNG gods, then! I select 1x Zenny for the ritual submersion in 20-sided dice.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #752 on: November 18, 2015, 01:31:50 PM »
Dude no man you don't want to do that. You think you're gonna get my luck all up in your business but my luck is locked down tight. Safer than walgreens generic sleepin pills. Keep twisting kid all you get is clicks.

You're gonna turn around and get a security rake in the face and land on your ass with a five star substance abuse problem and coping mechanisms that alienate you from people that could potentially be friends if you just stopped insulting them for five minutes.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #753 on: November 18, 2015, 01:37:24 PM »
Well that got way darker and self denigrating than I bargained for...

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #754 on: November 18, 2015, 01:48:07 PM »
We -are- talking about addiction.

Speaking of which, got Seifer's MC, cap-broke both losercoats and chicken-wuss. Current ETA for R2 Full Break: Shadow's event.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #755 on: November 18, 2015, 01:59:41 PM »
I forgot I was talking to Zenny

Remember folks, the only person I hate more than all of you is myself.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #756 on: November 18, 2015, 02:36:34 PM »
I don't want anybody else, when I think about you I touch myself

EDIT: Seifer event done, very little to say until the bonus fights. However, for VSM fanservice, that particular Seifer fight at the end -does- involve Odin getting trounced by him if you use the summon.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #757 on: November 18, 2015, 08:14:49 PM »
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.

I'm just a couple of mythril away from another 11 pull. Kind of want to do it on FFVIII because I like the characters more AND it's a much weaker realm for me than FFV, even though I have a Blitz Sword. And I hear Selphie is really good, so that means if I get Seifer/Squall/Zell/Selphie/Irvine I'm not actually too bummed out about having to stick them into my party. Rinoa already IS in my party.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #758 on: November 18, 2015, 10:06:19 PM »
Selphie I believe is a pretty stock White Mage.   As in, she has White Magic at 5, and a few other skills, Black 3 means she can fling some status and hit some elemental weaknesses if you need extra, and Celerity 3 means she can even hit Wind Damage, and do...well little else, that's a physical skillset.

I guess she has above average HP for a White Mage, but it's not really stand out; like 10% more than the others, and White Mages have fairly low HP. 

So she's kind of generic, but not necessarily bad.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #759 on: November 18, 2015, 10:56:00 PM »
Thing with Selphie is mostly that it's hard to go wrong with White Mages in the game. Decent durability and equips for a cleric also go a pretty long way. "Generic White Mage" is one of the better things to be if you're not going to stand out notably, since WM is such a self-sufficient and versatile skillset. Anyone with decent stats, staves and White Magic 4 or higher is a PC on the better side of average pretty much by default.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #760 on: November 18, 2015, 11:25:02 PM »
Selphie's main draw is having a versatile skillset outside of White Magic.  Black 3 is enough to use the black statuses to good effect with an excellent mind stat.  Selphie casting Stop lasted at least twice as long as the stop from Balthier using Shadowbind.  Celerity is a physical attack skillset, but she can for example use Tempo Flurry on a Retaliate team, whereas most White Mages don't have access to that or Double Hit.

She also has good durability and can use Light Armor.  Really her strengths are that she has no weaknesses.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #761 on: November 18, 2015, 11:43:12 PM »
She also has good durability and can use Light Armor.  Really her strengths are that she has no weaknesses.

Well... she does have one weakness.*



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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #762 on: November 19, 2015, 11:13:38 AM »
Info on the next JP event is out. Basch for token new PC, Balthier, Vaan and Penelo get SSBs and MC2s.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #763 on: November 19, 2015, 11:27:38 AM »
What's the ETA for the Seifer bonus battles, the 20th?

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #764 on: November 19, 2015, 11:35:55 AM »
Yeah, so FF12 event up next. Balthier's (Alternately, Valfreya*) MC2 and a bunch of shit I don't care about based on the description. Any info on what the SSBs actually are, Snow?

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So, Rufio. Crow for me, bitch. I beat him, but missed mastery by quite a lot.

This has been an interesting fight to get information from. For instance, today I learned that Dispel isn't actually that annoying, because while it does get rid of Protect/Shell/Regen/Haste, it does NOT get rid of buffs that directly affect the stat (SG, Sun Bath, etc.) and does not cancel out Reraise. So Dark Nation's Dispel is, while annoying, not the massive threat it seemed to be on the first try. I also learned that Black Panther is way smarter than, say, Dark Bahamut, because reflecting his teammates does not lead to him reflecting haste onto you. Literally after I typed that it happened in the next run. It was a failed run because Ramza was dead, but well it does happen apparently.


After several resets, I've determined that I have no fucking idea how Rufus' AI works, but I have an OK theory. I'm pretty sure KBP was wrong (EDIT: After writing this, I looked back at the wiki and they've updated with correct information. I guess nobody else playing had any idea how it worked for a while either), and it isn't after Dark Nation bites it, but after a certain number of turns that Rufus just goes "MAKO CANNON MAKO CANNON MAKO CANNON" and you die. Or it could be bad luck! But I think not. No matter if I focused down his puppy, if I focused him down, or if I spread the damage between them, always around the time Aeris gets her first SB gauge filled I get a Mako cannon to the face, and then several more. For a while, he'll go back to his starting attack pattern, but then MAKO CANNON MAKO CANNON. Actually, I documented his moved over several times to see if they were fixed, and it seems like after about turn 8-10 or so the Mako Cannon floodgates open and while he doesn't use it quite every turn, he uses it a shitload. For the record, my winning run looked something like this:

1. Shotgun
2. Shotgun
3. Kyuk Kyuk Gatling
4. Double Shotgun
5. Gatling
6. MT Fire attack
7. Gatling
8. Shotgun
9. Gatling
10. Mako Cannon
11. Mako Cannon
12. Mako Cannon
13. MT Fire
14. Mako Fire
15. Mako Cannon
16. Mako Fire
17. Mako Fire
18. Mako Cannon
19. Mako Cannon (Second SG wore off here)
20. Shotgun
21. Mako Cannon
22. Mako Cannon (Aeris Dead)
23. Mako Cannon (Agrias dead, Aeris Double dead)
24. Shotgun (Agrias double dead)
25. Mako Cannon (Mog, Ramza dead)

I beat him this round, but only Zack was left alive and it was super tense. As you can see, after about turn 10 or so he just started spamming that blasted fucking move without remorse.

I'm not quite sure if mastery is possible, and if it is it's going to take a lot of S/Ling for RNG luck, but the obvious improvement is swapping Agrias out. Reflect did contribute, but not very much, and Agrias herself contributed very little in the back half of the fight once Dispel wasn't a necessity. Unless Rufio's MDef is stupid, swapping in Terra with Dispel/Waterja will be an immediate extra 2500+ a round in the last half of the fight. Gilgamesh with Come At Me Bro is tempting, too, especially to counter the double shotguns and give me an extra boost of damage while Dark Nation is still alive, assuming his ST attack is indeed Reta-able. Plus, he does have more HP than anyone else I'm fielding, but... not having dispel potentially means bringing on the Mako Cannon phase of the fight sooner than later, or going into that phase of the fight with him hasted. I suppose I could swap Break Fever out, if I went this way, since Gilgy would be providing mitigation against ST attacks. It'd be an RNG fest for sure, but it's not like the first phase wasn't already... actually, that's sounding really fuckin' sexy.

Mmph, I wish I could test out his RES without spending another 3 hours of stamina. Maybe I'll actually do Terra first just so I know for sure if it's a valid route or not and I'm not wasting time S/Ling Gilgamesh's waiting for the perfect RNG roll.  EDIT: Definitely trying Terra first, actually, because the accessory I earned from it gives 45 MAG with synergy. Yuss.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #765 on: November 19, 2015, 12:19:52 PM »
Yeah, so FF12 event up next. Balthier's (Alternately, Valfreya*) MC2 and a bunch of shit I don't care about based on the description. Any info on what the SSBs actually are, Snow?

The big star seems to be Fran's SSB, which is the very first Full Break SB (possibly stronger than normal breaks, as it tends to happen to char SBs). Balthier's SSB inflicts OIL status and Penelo's SSB is three hits of Holy damage+AoE Curaga. Basch's shield is MT Def Up+Atk Up, which means it stacks with other attack and defense boosts.

EDIT:

What's the ETA for the Seifer bonus battles, the 20th?

The same as every other event that isn't FF14's collab: three days after the event premieres - i.e. tomorrow in this case.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #766 on: November 19, 2015, 12:36:18 PM »
Yup, always Friday for the event to drop, then Monday for the bonuses in JP. I imagine it is similar in Global.

Fran's SSB sounds tempting, though Ramza already fills my Support hole good. May throw 15 myth at that banner but probably not more.

Update on Rufus, Dark Puppy has shit for Res (8k vs 5k to Rufio with Firaja), so when this event pops in several months for you all, you can probably just wreck with Mana's Praen and multiple instances of Drainga. Fully suspect I'll have mastery on this second run with good enough RNG.

Then I get to obsess about Hojo. Yay.

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« Reply #767 on: November 19, 2015, 12:43:28 PM »
For you, it'd be mostly a banner to fill ranged offense holes in your equipment. Fran uses a bow, Balthier uses a gun, but not all that much else.
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« Reply #768 on: November 19, 2015, 01:00:17 PM »
Yeah, sounds like it. Not gonna fret too much about missing it, though the ranged offence would be nice.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #769 on: November 19, 2015, 01:05:28 PM »
At worst, you'll get a Support 4/Thief 5 option in Vaan, so you might finally get someone good to use Thief Raid+Steal Power with. Balthier has Thief 4/Spellblade 4/Engineer 5, which is also funny, but Balthy's stats aren't as good.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #770 on: November 19, 2015, 01:29:39 PM »
Well, at worst I get jack shit and move on, but yeah that Vaan option sounds pretty good. Balthier would still be better by virtue of Drain Strike being cheap to forge. Actually just by virtue of niches I need filled, Fran's sounds like the least optimal, but then again that'd free up a slot for Ramza to show off his singing voice, which in light of direct boosts to stats not being affected by dispel, just may be really freakin good.

In any case, still not terribly concerned. I'll drop 15, but not knowing what other banners there are I'm just gonna save myth. I freely admit that a large part of that may well be having no emotional attatchment to having any of these characters being useful like I do the 6/Tactics crew.

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« Reply #771 on: November 19, 2015, 01:42:10 PM »
Most people have no emotional attachment to FFXII PCs, that's why they've got a grand total of four events - counting the upcoming one - in the roughly fourteen months the game's been running.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #772 on: November 19, 2015, 02:00:45 PM »
By comparison, how many FF1, FF2, and FF13 events have there been? I wager, not many.

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« Reply #773 on: November 19, 2015, 02:42:54 PM »
FF1, FF2 and FF3 are the most neglected of all. FF1 and 3 have one event each (FF3 being a collab event), FF2 had one collab and the Minwu event a couple weeks back. And none of the collabs have a chance in hell of showing up in Global due to licensing issues.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #774 on: November 19, 2015, 03:14:29 PM »
Very empty day. Juggling between Ultima Weapon farming, white power + daily farming and bonus quests for Greater Growth Eggs. Ultima drops a Giant Adamantite sometimes as well, which is a waste of RNG.

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