Author Topic: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper (Read 214341 times)

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1200 on:** December 30, 2015, 01:35:49 PM »

No ETAs on the next event yet. Heard they could swap the order on Rikku and Rosa/Edge, which would throw a slight wrench on some people's plans! Still, postponing Ultimate Yunalesca wouldn't really bring me to tears. Using Yuna without getting to use Hymn of the Fayth is going to be relatively painful.

Scar · « **Reply #1201 on:** December 30, 2015, 02:32:46 PM »

Hmm

Just got lenna's mc2.

Trying to figure out a good team for these next two fights.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1202 on:** December 30, 2015, 03:07:25 PM »

I went with a full-mage Melusine cheese party (Lenna with Box Step and Sleep, Krile and Rinoa packed with elemental and fire damage, Y'shtola geared for healing and Vanille with Ifrit and Ruinga), since you have to sleep her as a target score and the status itself works optimally when running mages. Even if you can't keep her sleep-locked the whole fight, one proc can seriously dent her and it also circumvents her obnoxious barrier shifts. Fortunately, unlike FF5, the game tells you which element she's weak to when she swaps, which helps a lot. I like how they kept the same animation as FF5 for the shift, by the way (which was simply swapping her sprite around to an identical copy since she's actually five different beasts which cycle around). The details in this game, man.

Exdeath, by comparison, is more straight-forward. Loserface for SG, Yuna for Hymn of the Fayth and possibly even Celes, since Runic walls a considerable amount of Exdeath's offense and she can use Spellblades -and- 4* BLM to help you with target scores. Then you pad out your elemental/offense/support slots.

Cotigo · « **Reply #1203 on:** December 30, 2015, 05:39:29 PM »

Gilgamesh / Enkidou was a really fun fight that would have been miserable without Zack's SSB. Hastega, man.

Phase one is kinda boring, Gilgamesh attacks and has Death Claw which hits 3x but has a pretty low chance of proccing its Paralysis so is only really threatening if they all target the same character. Phase 3, after you kill off Enkidou, Gilgamesh uses a really weak (by 凶 standards) Zantetsuken every round that isn't really threatening as long as you keep Power Breakdown and Protectga up.

Phase 2 was absolutely brutal, though. Gilgamesh and Enkidou's movesets in this phase just mesh so well. Gilgamesh gets Missile, 75% current HP, and 1000 Needles, which if used one right after the other on the same character... isn't enough to kill off a character... UNLESS Enkidou MT Aerogas! Which he does. Often. When he's not doing that, he's Berserking someone, in my case usually Gilgamesh, who had all my MT, or in one notable instance, Mog, JUST as Sun Bath was about to go off. Mog also had my Esuna, so I was kinda fucked for damage for the last half of the fight (surprisingly, still only lost 3 medals, so hey). The Status, the gravity-set damage combo, the fact that you NEED Wall up here otherwise Aeroga deals 4k+ damage unbroken... Yeah, it was a hell of a fight. I do think I could have done it without Hastega, but it would have taken way more S/Ls to not get status-fucked, and I would have had to do a LOT of trickery with my Turn Cancel SBs. As it is though, pretty fun fight, and I have a feeling that the game is good again now that I have Hastega.

Hastega hastega hastega. Hastega? Hastega.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1204 on:** December 30, 2015, 06:07:25 PM »

Hastega.

Meeplelard · « **Reply #1205 on:** December 30, 2015, 08:32:00 PM »

Tried Ex-death a bit, failed, think I need a bit more offense, will try again after Sunday, since apparently the event runs through then so hey, might as well get Levels!

Otherwise done with the FF5 event for now.

Shale · « **Reply #1206 on:** December 31, 2015, 04:01:30 AM »

Quote from: Shale on December 22, 2015, 12:37:35 PM

Hm. So the main thing standing between me and a physical beatdown build is a Record Materia that would let Mog start fights with an SB gauge filled. To get that I need to get either Cloud or Tyro to their second level break. Vale of Memories has blank MC2s. Thus, it would be very nice if I could get my A team from "struggles with Orbfest + fights" to "can beat one of VOM's boss fights with no time to build SBs" in the next week and a half. I have Mythril for two X11 draws (and could maybe build up enough for a third if I go whole hog on story dungeons, but that would mean neglecting Orbfest), a crap-ton of Growth Eggs and enough orbs to craft decent 4 star abilities by the time Orbfest is done with, but not to refine them very far (if at all). Hopeless?

Final verdict: Not hopeless at all. Mission accomplished a day ahead of schedule, in fact! My level 50-55 party came at Cecil with maximum mitigation (Sentinel Grimoire RW, one Protega spell and two SBs, R3 Kirin, Power Breakdown, Draw Fire, everybody in the back row, and Loserface holding the Evil Lantern for extra evade) and despite a scare where Gilgamesh dropped to under 1/3 health I heroically convinced him to go away and do something more interesting, claiming my blank MC2 prize. I'd have championed if I had Paladin Cecil, but the reward there pales next to getting access to the materia I need (eventually, after a bunch of story dungeons). Yaaaaaaaaaaaay!

Cotigo · « **Reply #1207 on:** December 31, 2015, 07:15:43 AM »

Quote from: Shale on December 31, 2015, 04:01:30 AM

Quote from: Shale on December 22, 2015, 12:37:35 PM
Hm. So the main thing standing between me and a physical beatdown build is a Record Materia that would let Mog start fights with an SB gauge filled. To get that I need to get either Cloud or Tyro to their second level break. Vale of Memories has blank MC2s. Thus, it would be very nice if I could get my A team from "struggles with Orbfest + fights" to "can beat one of VOM's boss fights with no time to build SBs" in the next week and a half. I have Mythril for two X11 draws (and could maybe build up enough for a third if I go whole hog on story dungeons, but that would mean neglecting Orbfest), a crap-ton of Growth Eggs and enough orbs to craft decent 4 star abilities by the time Orbfest is done with, but not to refine them very far (if at all). Hopeless?

Final verdict: Not hopeless at all. Mission accomplished a day ahead of schedule, in fact! My level 50-55 party came at Cecil with maximum mitigation (Sentinel Grimoire RW, one Protega spell and two SBs, R3 Kirin, Power Breakdown, Draw Fire, everybody in the back row, and Loserface holding the Evil Lantern for extra evade) and despite a scare where Gilgamesh dropped to under 1/3 health I heroically convinced him to go away and do something more interesting, claiming my blank MC2 prize. I'd have championed if I had Paladin Cecil, but the reward there pales next to getting access to the materia I need (eventually, after a bunch of story dungeons). Yaaaaaaaaaaaay!

Quote from: Grefter on December 30, 2015, 09:22:35 AM

Congratulations.

Meeplelard · « **Reply #1208 on:** December 31, 2015, 07:20:20 AM »

Serah's event dropped. This was a character I was interested in since:

A. There's a lot to work with
B. I'm a fan of the character in general

And what does she end up being?

Essentially a cross between Maria and Edea...well great, another almost pure Black Mage (who can cast Reflect, Dispel and Faith), which is that role that really needs a buff since it hasn't gotten anything new and it's big 6* skill ended up disappointing...

It's seriously kind of insulting at this point. Look at how many characters with Black 5 we got in the past few months:

*Kefka
*Ex-death
Vincent
Palom
Desch
Kuja
Edea
Serah

Add Shantotto coming up in a dungeon update soon, and how Strago got buffed to Black 5, and it's kind of ridiculous they have been adding that many Black Mages but done nothing to boost it, in an era where Black Magic is falling behind thanks to that 9999 damage cap and bosses having high resistance.

*These two were, admittedly, somewhat earlier than the rest and may not be fair to lump them in

I'll grant half the Black Mages on that list have Darkness, thus get access to Memento Mori, but that doesn't do anything for the bunch that doesn't get it (or something to supplement like Summon)

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1209 on:** December 31, 2015, 11:59:45 AM »

More upmat and Power orb farming on the last day of the year. Oh well.

Magic Fanatic · « **Reply #1210 on:** December 31, 2015, 12:26:41 PM »

... S/L

... S/L

... S/L

Red XIII - Magic Breakdown R3/Full Break R2 - Mako Might - Lunatic High saw the most use, but used the Dark Shot SB as a gambit to deal the last sliver of damage.
Lenna L65 - Curaga R4/Shellga R2 - Thief's Code - Had the Dragon Gloves equipped for the Firewyrm Breath SB, so I had a source of Fire Damage for mastery when healing wasn't 100% necessary from her.
Y'shtola L65 - Curaga R4/Power Breakdown R2 - Dr. Mog's Teachings - You know what she's here for.
Rinoa L69 - Thundaja R4/Waterja R4 - Devotion - My main damage
Bartz L57 - Steal Power R3/Blizzaga Strike R3 - Martial Master - Damage just behind Rinoa, though Blade Wing dealt 18K damage whenever it was up.
RW: Wakka Status Reels.

So many things happened that should've convinced me to reset.

Bartz died when Exdeath was at about 40-50%.

I ran out of shots of damage on Rinoa, and was relying on her SB to finish things off.

I ran out of shots of Curaga.

Yet I decided to finish the battle, just because I could...

...And the game rewards me with Mastery on the fight and a bonus Greater Non-Elemental Orb. One medal down for Actions Taken, two medals down for Damage Taken. Only needed to S/L three or four times.

I'm not sure how to feel about this.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1211 on:** December 31, 2015, 01:22:36 PM »

Take the win. The Ultimate Exdeath fight took me two S/Ls to get down right, it's a pretty tough boss.

Speaking of which! My Exdeath setup:

Lulu Focus RW

L65 Vivi (R4 Blizzaja/R4 Waterja, Vow of Vengeance RM, Doublecast Venom)
L77 Rinoa (R4 Thundaja, R4 Firaja, Devotion RM, Angel Wing Bolt)
L65 Y'shtola (R4 Diaga, R2 Protectga, Mako Might RM, Stoneskin II)
L65 Eiko (R4 Curaja, R4 Mana's Paean, Ace Striker RM, Emerald Light)
L65 Sazh (R4 Magic Breakdown, R2 Full Break, Dr. Mog's Teachings RM, Boon)

That's more or less it. Thinking on it, I could've replaced Vivi with Rydia for pretty much the same results, since Exdeath immunes Poison elemental stuff. Y'shtola's Protectga could've been swapped for Mental Breakdown for extra punch on Angel Wing Bolt, but Vaccuum Waves were relevant enough for it to not be a waste. Most important part was timing Boon, Focus and SSII's recasts right for the below 50% HP triple-act, which will leave you reeling without full mitigation. Focus + Mana's Paean actually wasn't overkill, since Rinoa and Vivi needed both to ram the damage cap. 13k damage Angel Wing Bolts also weren't bad results on an Ultimate Boss for a first-wave relic SB.

Captain K · « **Reply #1212 on:** December 31, 2015, 09:06:03 PM »

Exdeath beaten. No actual S/Ls, but the game crashed a whopping 3 times. Seriously wtf.

Lenna (Curaga, Protectga) Cultured Conjuror
Faris (Magic Breakdown, Dismissal) Viera Virtuoso
Krile (Thundaja, Blizzaga) Rod Master
Bartz w/Flametongue (Steal Power, Firaga Strike) Mako Might
Selphie (Curaja, Shellga) Zeal
SG roaming warrior

Bartz's Lupine Barrage was doing 5100x5 after Steal Power (and Faris debuff), 4400x5 after its own buff.

Quote from: Makkotah on December 30, 2015, 05:39:29 PM

Hastega hastega hastega. Hastega? Hastega.

Nope. Aoe healga aoe healga aoe healga.

hinode · « **Reply #1213 on:** December 31, 2015, 09:39:51 PM »

Forgot to mention this a few days ago, but I switched my RW over to Princess's Favor now. 93Gf if anyone here wants an AoE heal with FF5 synergy and isn't on my list already. Just cap broken Lenna a second time, will be level grinding her and some others this Sunday.

DjinnAndTonic · « **Reply #1214 on:** January 01, 2016, 02:31:05 AM »

Wanted to talk about my Omega fight now that I've got some downtime on my vacation.

So I saw lots of people talking about Stop-locking him and how Advantaliate was suboptimal. Challenge accepted.

Used Cloud as my Retaliator, with Yuna and her Hymn as healer, and Tyro for spamming SG.

The only really interesting thing about my setup was that Advantaliate took a long time to deal the damage necessary on Omega, so I needed more SGs and more frequently than Tyro was building soul break meter. Since Lifesiphon isn't out yet, I needed something for him to spam to gain gauge faster. Checking the spreadsheet, my only good options were Wrath, which is a 4-star ability that requires tons of Greater Orbs, or... Retaliate! Well well well, that only takes 2* orbs and while it's only half as good as Wrath for building meter, I can get it to 10 uses immediately.

So now I have two copies of R5 Retaliate and one of them is dedicated for Tyro to spam to keep the SG flowing.

It worked surprisingly well and I could keep SG up the whole fight. And that was really all it took once I got passed the first round of Omega.

Still wish I had a Soul Break for Cloud...

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1215 on:** January 01, 2016, 02:58:13 AM »

Rikku event tomorrow, sporting the worst set of banners since Auron's Shimmering Blade fiasco. I swear FFX picks all the crap banners in the schedule.

Cotigo · « **Reply #1216 on:** January 01, 2016, 07:54:36 AM »

Ala Snow, after an encountee with 3 Cactaurs in the orbfest, I did an 11 pull on Banner 4. A couple generic 5*s, and…

Bartz's BSSB. Fuck. Yes.

The remainder of my gambling will happen when I'm back home. This'll do for now.

DjinnAndTonic · « **Reply #1217 on:** January 01, 2016, 08:24:33 AM »

JP: Sweet, Banner 4 of the Burst SSB fest is finally here and I can use all this mythril I've been hoarding / was just given to me by the game.

First 11x Pull - one 5*... that's okay, I was prepared for this, I've got 4 more pulls! Let's what it is...

Ramza's Platinum Sword.

Well fuck that's exactly what I wanted I guess I can save the rest.

Global: Exdeath Ultimate
Went in with a Mage Meta party for the first time ever. Oh well, Advantaliate, you were fun while you lasted.

Cecil was packing his SSB and a newly-honed Magic Lure to increase how often he could use it. Also my Shellga carrier.
Lulu and Rinoa were carrying my elemental -jas for the elemental target scores plus Focus and the Halloween hat to buff that sweet sweet damage.
Tyro was full support - spamming Magic BD and Full Break and SG. I had his SSB on, but never got to use it.
And Yuna was Curaga/Protectga and spamming Hymn of the Faith, along with a Hymn RW so there was never a shortage of healing.

He cast Countdown on two of my PCs on the second turn, which put me in a race against time. Also, it took all 24 of my -aja casts plus three of Cecil's SSB to take him down. The countdown timers were at 02 and 06 respectively when he finally fell. It's possible I should have switched out Cecil for Tellah with Shellga/Drainga (and Polymorph Rod MP restoration!), but his Magic Lure actually -did- save me a lot of trouble.

It's notable that after the first turn, with all those layers of mitigation, Exdeath never had any of my characters at less than 70% health. Unfortunately he slammed Cecil hard on that first turn and I lost two Damage medals.

Excellent fight! I finally had a reason to use all those cool soulbreaks I've managed to amass. Looking forward to trying out some less-conventional strats on future Ultimate bosses.

Cotigo · « **Reply #1218 on:** January 01, 2016, 08:50:39 AM »

Your Ramza is now more useful than my Ramza despite no MC2. And my Ramza is pretty much my MVP. Congrats.

Nitori · « **Reply #1219 on:** January 01, 2016, 08:59:34 AM »

pulled on welfare banner, got Official Ball. Wakka gets to live a bit longer

are there any important characters/mc1s that don't come around for a while, i managed to get some of the event tokens. MC2s too hard for my fresh 71 stamina account

Relics:

Candle Rod (VII)
Blitz Sword (VIII)
Morning Star (VIII) [Selphie]
Official Ball (X) [Wakka]
Danjuro (XII)
Paramina Crossbow (XII) [Blind Shot SB]
Lominsan Bow (XIV)
Noble's Armguards (XIV)

also not totally sure what to take for the free relic but I probably don't need more bows

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #1220 on:** January 01, 2016, 09:41:32 AM »

I'd say your biggest need is a non-healer mage weapon, which would be either the Valkyrie (VIII) or Storm Staff (IX). It's longer until the next FFVIII event, but you also have some decent relics there so I lean Storm Staff. Garnet and her MC1 will roll around in the Beatrix event in ~3-4 weeks, so up to you if you want her now or can wait.

The best use for you for hero souls/MC1 lodes is Gilgamesh though. He's among the best PCs available with no relic whatsoever, and you want him; he can use just about any melee weapon you can get, so he's easy to synergize, and he can use Draw Fire+Retaliate, meaning any primarily-physical boss you run into is functionally helpless.

DjinnAndTonic · « **Reply #1221 on:** January 01, 2016, 09:48:56 AM »

Vaan is a solid choice for characters that are difficult to come by. Ashe is too if you're not planning on doing Terra's Quest?

Terra, Gilgamesh, and any White Mage character can carry you through most of the game. Though you can get a lot of those through the Quests. Might be important to pick up their MC1s in the Hall of Rites though. Selphie too if you have one of her Relics.

Wakka will get to live a while longer anyway because he's getting his MC2 next event and that will probably be your first MC2, meaning he'll be level 80 while the rest of your peons are stuck at 65.

Characters worth looking at based on what you posted:

Wakka - you have his relic and his MC1 is coming up soon, as well as a shot at his MC2

Gilgamesh - just a top-tier character, worth getting him and his MC1 any way you can

A Black Mage:
Terra - top-tier Black Mage who can also use Breakdowns and status busters (giving Wakka some more variety), worth getting her MC1 if decide to use her. NOTABLY she can't use the Storm Staff from the beginner's banner.
Ashe - solid Black Mage with a good default Soulbreak and overall good stats and a good record materia worth having too. Can use the Storm Staff. Doesn't get an MC2 anytime even remotely soon. (For reference, the first dedicated black mages who -can- use the Storm Staff to get their MC2s are Lulu, Vivi, Vanille, and Hope in the anniversary celebration)

A White Mage (or two):
Lenna - Get her from her event now. You need a White Mage in this game.
Arc (FF3) - you can pick up him and his MC1 in the story dungeons. He's a fully-functioning White Mage Summoner with a Shellga default SB. If you can't use Lenna and her MC1/2 from this current event or need a second White Mage (you probably will at some point), use him. Also a great candidate for Garnet's Storm Staff until Garnet shows up on the relatively-soonish Beatrix event, 5 events from now.
Selphie - White Mage who can contribute to Retaliate Meta thanks to Celerity 3. You also have one of her relics. Her MC1 won't come around again for a while.

and one of the Utility Physical Characters:
Cecil Paladin - Tank with decent damage and can use White Magic 4. If you get him and his MC1, you'll be happy. Worth noting that Beatrix is coming relatively soonish and can also do these things.
Vaan - Thief is great, Celerity 4 and Support 4 are great. Has actually powerful attacking stats. Honestly he can replace Wakka if you don't get Wakka's MC2. His equipment options are great too.
Josef - You get him in the story dungeons, along with his MC1 (notably a bit later). He has the best starting Record Materia in the game and for that reason alone, you should get him and use him a bit to get those. They will particularly help you out for using Retaliate Meta to clear harder-than-your-current-level difficulty fights, like say... the + and ++ fights on the next event so you can get Wakka's MC2.

Cotigo · « **Reply #1222 on:** January 01, 2016, 12:27:22 PM »

Dumped most of my mythril into the banner. Got two copies of Vincent's mantle (o boi), and… Tyro's BSSB. Wow.

No Thyrus or Platinum Sword, but with Zack's SSB and the two BSSBs I have now, they feel a lot less necessary. In fact, though I will have enough mythril for one more 11 pull in a couple days from the login bonuses, since I have Tyro's BSSB it may be prudent to try for Sentinel Grimiore rather than Thyrus. I have some time to think about it, anyway.

Shale · « **Reply #1223 on:** January 01, 2016, 02:13:33 PM »

Since the FFX banner coming up evidently sucks, I decided to dump 50 Mythril on FF5 in hopes of a Brave Blade or Kotetsu. No luck, but I did come up with a second Black Garb that I can combine into a 4+ armor, and two Sage's Staffs! So that's my first 6 star gear lined up, plus I should probably try for Lenna's MC2 now. I beat Gilgamesh, so I'd only need to BS a couple of wins for it. Maaaaaaaaaaaybe.......

Cotigo · « **Reply #1224 on:** January 01, 2016, 02:33:27 PM »

Keep in mind that if you lose a fight, you can spend mythril to retry with a bonus (More ability charges, Offensive Stats boosted, defensive stats boosted, or HP boosted, picked at rabdom.) These effects stack, so you can keep spending mythril until you win. This is definitely worth doing for an MC2.

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Author Topic: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper (Read 214341 times)