Author Topic: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper (Read 214361 times)

Shale · « **Reply #1275 on:** January 04, 2016, 07:05:35 PM »

Hm. Maybe Stop as the second ability on Sephiroth, then. And the flowers are vulnerable to sleep, so I could swap out Sleep on Rydia for Lullaby on Tyro, give her an ST black magic, and just let the flowers snooze while I stop and mangle the pod.

EDIT: Boss rush report!

S/L'ed on the Dragon Pod until I got Stop to connect straight off, then used AOE to tear up the flowers before focusing down on the pod because Lullaby was clearly never going to get them all at once. It woke up at about half HP, and at that point I was able to use Blade Beam and Ruinga to keep the adds under control while taking the Pod down. Full medals.

S/L'ed twice on Atomos until an opening Lullaby connected, then used all my remaining offensive spell charges on him before he woke up. After that it was just a matter of attack attack attack SB attack attack attack. Of the members of my party only Sephiroth deals even okay damage with his basic physical so it was a long process, but Atomos only ate two people and I finished with 8/9 medals (lost one for actions).

Intermission! Used a mythril to full restore before the crystal fight, because if I can beat those two with no revives at all I might as well try to take out the crystals in one go (plus it's better for the damage medal).

Crystal time. No S/L here, it's all damage all the time against these guys. When you factor out the elements they null my AOE offense is 4 shots of Ruinga, two Blade Beams, two Darkmoons, one Valefor, and Cyclone Grimoire. Past that, I've got Waterga, Dark and physicals, unlikely to hack it against four bosses with solid offense. Would that be enough? *drumroll* Yes, yes it was! They died after three rounds of all-out offense, culminating in a Cyclone Grimoire. 8/9 medals, losing one for damage. Now the Antlion is all that stands between me and a second MC2. Nice.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1276 on:** January 04, 2016, 09:25:18 PM »

Nice work. It's really cool to read all the elaborate strategies made up in order to compensate a lack of raw power. It's kind of a testament to the game's oddly high accessibility once you get a few cylinders firing. Pulling it off with only one Mythril's also a huge achievement, considering how much you were afraid you'd spend.

EDIT: Also, making good use of Lullaby with its 20% hit rate is a serious feat.

Shale · « **Reply #1277 on:** January 04, 2016, 11:08:45 PM »

It certainly helps that this is the first event after an Orbfest so I can get (if not refine) whatever abilities seem like they'll help with the fights at hand. Later runs are going to be somewhat more demanding, I expect.

Anyway, MC2 get! Needed to mythril revive for that one -- not for extra stats but for the party to start with SB gauges mostly filled. Gave Sleep to Lenna so it'd hit reliably, threw water and other offensive magic at Antlion until I ran out, and had to attack attack SB etc the rest of the way, but it worked! I missed the mastery because Vivi ate a Gastric Juice OHKO, which is lame, but I got Greater Black Orbs and the crystal, I call it a win.

hinode · « **Reply #1278 on:** January 04, 2016, 11:52:47 PM »

So my team for Ultimate Exdeath looked like this:

RW was Lunatic High.

Needless to say I had an easy time. Zero S/Ls, the closest anyone came to dying was Bartz taking ~3000 from Exdeath's turn 1 physical. Rinoa and Lenna did constant 9999s; Bartz needed Steal Power to hit such heights, but he made up for it with 2 25K Lupine Barrages near the end.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1279 on:** January 05, 2016, 12:03:58 AM »

Dear god, that must be what being keytsang feels like.

hinode · « **Reply #1280 on:** January 05, 2016, 12:34:02 AM »

I also have a Hypno Crown++ that I forgot to equip, not that it would've made any difference at all on Lenna or Rinoa.

Meeplelard · « **Reply #1281 on:** January 05, 2016, 01:35:22 AM »

Beat the Boss Rush. Probably could take Magus Sisters now (I have the Stamina), but meh, lazy.

Boss Rush required a few S/Ls, since:

-First time, Oblitzerator decided it'd be nice to use it's counter on Yuna before I had hit him wtih Power Breakdown.
-2nd time Rikku decided it'd be nice to NOT HIT WITH INTIMIDATE EVER, which in turn of a medal condition, means I took too much damage (the winning run, due to some below the belt late fight counters when Power Breakdown wasn't up, he stole a single Damage medal from me; whatever, that's salvage-able)
-Crawler, it was basically a race against time, getting him with Power Breakdown and killing the Canceller before Gatling murdered me, followed by Yuna getting Hymn of the Fayth off. Didn't help that I used more resources than I intended on the previous fight.

Still, not too bad a boss rush. I lost one medal each round (damage on first and third, actions on 2nd), but that's hardly anything to worry about.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1282 on:** January 05, 2016, 02:47:41 AM »

Done with all the fights but Ultimate myself. I procced Intimidate on Oblitzerator early and, past that, a 5+* Heat Lance-wielding Lightning with Thundara and Thundaga Sword, which made the fights very fast. For the Magus Sisters, I brought Y'shtola for SSII and Yuna for Valeduin spamming. The fight ended so fast that failing to poison Sandy (instead poisoning Cindy) didn't even matter. Defender X fails all day against Reflect and Berserk as before. Will leave 'lesca for tomorrow and hope for the best.

Magic Fanatic · « **Reply #1283 on:** January 05, 2016, 03:04:11 AM »

Boss rush: Auron/Yuna/Wakka/Lulu/Rikku. Most dangerous boss was the last one, and that's because I couldn't cast. Didn't matter though, I didn't even kill the Suppressor.

Magus Sisters: Switched out Auron for Gilgamesh. Lullaby procs once on two sisters. Still win anyway with Sandy poisoned and no one dead.

Defender X:

Quote from: Jo'ou Ranbu on January 05, 2016, 02:47:41 AM

Defender X fails all day against Reflect and Berserk as before.

Already planning for 'Leska Ultimate. I'm excited to try it, even if I'm not as smashingly powerful as Jo'ou.

Meeplelard · « **Reply #1284 on:** January 05, 2016, 04:34:41 AM »

Beat Magus Sisters. Had to do it twice since the first time I forgot about the Poison Condition and lost ONE MEDAL on Turns, there goes mastery!

Second time, lost 2 medals on damage because no Protectga = Delta Storm STINGS.

Otherwise, the fight was essentially "if Gilgamesh gets his 2nd turn, I win"; Yuna will have had Carbuncle cast by then, killing Mindy's magic, and Drawtaliate takes care of everything save Delta Force which Hymn of the Fayth SHOULD heal me enough by then (Yuna has Dr. Mog's Teachings, so her 2nd turn is that just to offset any damage taken in the first two turns), and Yuna's goal is Venom Buster the rest of the fight.

This worked well...until Mindy decided to poke Yuna RIGHT BEFORE DYING with Passado, because apparently Draw Fire decided to wear off, making me have to S/L and basically just do everything over again. winning Run was close, not because of any sort of strategy or anything, but because Yuna finally poisoned Sandy on her 8th and Final Venom Buster.

Magic Fanatic · « **Reply #1285 on:** January 05, 2016, 05:32:56 AM »

So I tried Ultimate Yunalesca.

http://imgur.com/a/WKUbC

I'm just going to leave this here.

Just going to say: Faith wound up being useless, but I'm not sure what I could've used in its place, maybe Boost. 'Lesca got very Osmose-happy, so I was scrambling for offense at the end there.

Also: the Sap from Dragoon's Determination lasted the entire battle, so there's that for people that were theorycrafting Drawtaliate Gilgamesh. Just keep in mind that you'll be running out of charges faster due to her Osmose.

Cotigo · « **Reply #1286 on:** January 05, 2016, 06:28:58 AM »

Yeah I don't know how long Sap from the RMs last, but I'm pretty sure it lasts indefinitely. I've never had it wear off before the end of a battle (admittedly, I always had Regen up until last week, so take that as you will).

Also, congrats, Shale. Workin' your way up. You'll be a big boy soon.

Magic Fanatic · « **Reply #1287 on:** January 05, 2016, 07:50:54 AM »

Quote from: Jo'ou Ranbu on January 04, 2016, 12:25:02 PM

I'm not certain Dragoon's Determination/Self-Sacrifice sap lasts that long.

This was more what I was responding to, Zenzen

Some of the other things I was surprised by:
Absorb runs into Drawtaliate. Even causes a counter!
I had a freaking use for Kimahri's Mighty Guard (X) as my RW. I mean, seriously?
The timer for Holy (All) seems absurdly long. I mean, I was scrambling for offense at the end again, and I still never saw it.

Cotigo · « **Reply #1288 on:** January 05, 2016, 08:22:55 AM »

I was also addressing that and providing an anecdote to support what you were saying.

Unrelated, I didn't realize the BSSB fest ended today so I didn't get to do that 15 pull for SG. Oh well. Back to hoarding mythril for the next 3 months.

Edit: Hey DJ, I just checked the MC2 trade in area and Ramza is totally there now, if you didn't already know.

Magic Fanatic · « **Reply #1289 on:** January 05, 2016, 08:33:27 AM »

...It's only once people respond to me that I realize how much of an asshole I was being. Even the thing I thought was cute and punnish when I typed it now just looks assholish.

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #1290 on:** January 05, 2016, 08:44:22 AM »

Clearly we'll have to start using Kyoudii-sensei instead! TEACH US LEPRECHAUN MAN

Bleh. I suck at the game today. Whiffed mastery on the FFX boss rush and ultimately decided I didn't want to S/L Exdeath until his AI played nice. At least the Magus Sisters went down with minimal fuss. Defender X seems to basically own himself, and tomorrow's a grinding day anyways, so back to not thinking very hard for a while I guess.
That or I'm really upending all my existing strategies trying to work in SSB spam and this will sort itself out when Indoor Spell is available. Hopefully. Mm. It's Power/Ice/Wind? That's what I'm remembering so I've been hording all those, if that's not is someone correct me.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1291 on:** January 05, 2016, 09:17:39 AM »

Quote from: Makkotah on January 05, 2016, 06:28:58 AM

Yeah I don't know how long Sap from the RMs last, but I'm pretty sure it lasts indefinitely. I've never had it wear off before the end of a battle (admittedly, I always had Regen up until last week, so take that as you will.

I've had DD sap run out before. Hence my worry. This said:

Mastered Yunalesca. Two S/Ls due to two unfortunate status counters on phase 1 (first try, she Silenced Yuna. Second, she Blinded Tidus. Nope), but once I got intact to phase two, I had it all under control, being careful to not refresh Retaliate until 'lesca slapped Hellbiter just before phase 3. Offensively, only Holy is truly scary, though Osmose is a serious threat resources-wise. Red XIII ran out of charges shortly after phase 3 began and it also chewed through Tidus' Tempo Flurries like mad. Funnily enough, I didn't remember to use my offensive SBs in the fight. Also ended up not bringing Y'shtola, which worked out for the best. Two WMs are way awkward to fit into this battle. Fun stuff!

DjinnAndTonic · « **Reply #1292 on:** January 05, 2016, 09:29:45 AM »

The Sap on Dragoon's Determination definitely runs out, though luckily it lasts plenty long enough for this Yunalesca fight.

I wasn't quite sure what an optimal strategy would be for Lesca, so I just set up an Advantaliate team to test the waters, figured I could plan something better once that failed.

But apparently she's a chump or I just got super-lucky RNG because I full-medaled it and never took more damage than a quarter of my heath. >.>;;

I'm sure part of it was that I somehow pulled a third Variable Steel from the 100-gem pull today, so I just gave in and combined my first 7* Sword. Putting that on a Level 80 Cloud advantaliator just eats through Lesca so quick. Lunatic High and Sentinel's Grimoire for support but otherwise it was all Cloud.

Feels so cheap.

Time to plan out some ridiculous strategy involving Poison and Jump. >_<

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1293 on:** January 05, 2016, 09:52:10 AM »

Advantaliate remains overpowered when you have native Walls and Hastega, news at 11. The problem for most people is they usually have to choose between Advantaliate and not dying to unmitigated boss offense. Not to mention running a 7* synergy weapon is complete overkill: if I rammed the softcap with L80 Tidus just using a 5* Lightning Steel and synergy offense equips for FFX post-Dragoon's Determination, you were certainly running four-digit ATK post-Advance (for all the good it does post-cap, but still).

EDIT: THIS SAID, Reddit's been noting how badly Advantaliate spoils Yunalesca as long as you don't skimp on the fight's gimmicks. It... does make sense, her offense actually isn't great outside Holy and Advantaliate gets around Osmose, which is 'lesca's most notable fuck you due to putting your resources under the mercy of RNGesus. So yeah, go figure.

Quote from: Cmdr_King on January 05, 2016, 08:44:22 AM

That or I'm really upending all my existing strategies trying to work in SSB spam and this will sort itself out when Indoor Spell is available. Hopefully. Mm. It's Power/Ice/Wind? That's what I'm remembering so I've been hording all those, if that's not is someone correct me.

Most likely. Gamechanging SBs tend to work into a more reckless style of play, at least at first. Lifesiphon indeed involves Greater Power/Ice/Wind, by the way. A week and a half to go!

(Too bad about that FF4 event dangling inbetween.)

Magic Fanatic · « **Reply #1294 on:** January 05, 2016, 04:57:58 PM »

Looking a bit into the future, I just have this to say:

Quote

Ultimate Boss

Be prepared to face Barthandelus!

Defeat him and claim the Soulfont Talisman! (RES +15)

...I really hope what's listed for he Fang event is a typo, because only 15 RES for a 5* Accessory does not sound worth it, especially for the amount of effort that's going to be needed to murder this thing again.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1295 on:** January 05, 2016, 05:05:22 PM »

It has some high-level status resistance or other alongside the stat.

Cotigo · « **Reply #1296 on:** January 06, 2016, 07:50:48 AM »

For my reference

MCs I can get from Elite Dungeons & have yet to get:
Shaman
Viking
FuSoYa
Samurai
Mystic Knight
Dark Knight
Dragoon
Steiner
Ninja
Gladiator
Red Mage
Cyan

Besides that, I have 11 MCs I can't get except through the MC store, and I have 10 blank lodes... plus I'll get two in two days from New Years bonuses and one more from the Lightning event when I do that after the Orbfest ends. So I basically can get everyone to L65 now, with a quick dungeon dip in the worst case scenario. Neat.

Also, considering my party probably won't really be changing all that much to claim U+ rewards (I think I'm gonna try to do BSSBless runs of Ultimate+ fights just to scratch that overplanning itch, but it'll be nice to not really have to fret on a deadline if a fight is too obnoxious.. anyway I digress), I suppose I may as well spend my blank MC2s on characters with Record Materia 2/3s that I want. Steiner and Tidus' stick out since they fill SB gauge faster, and Leonhart's could be good depending on how much Attack is raised and Defense lowered. Aside from that though I'm not sure what I should aim for. I'll probably comb through the Excel file tonight or tomorrow, then blow my mythril on levelling those characters up to 65 before the Orbfest finally ends. In the meantime, (I suppose I'm mostly asking Snow >_>), are there any unreleased RM2/3s that you all are eagerly waiting for in Global? I imagine I have some of them (Dualcasts, etc) but hey maybe I don't.

DjinnAndTonic · « **Reply #1297 on:** January 06, 2016, 08:06:16 AM »

Terra's RM with Dualcast Black, definitely.

Apart from that, I also kind of want the RMs that change Attack to a lvl1 magic spell (I think Vivi's and Selphie's?), just so I can run dailies with mages more efficiently.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1298 on:** January 06, 2016, 08:35:24 AM »

We're mostly waiting on the Dualcasts and SB boosting ones (Terra's, Garnet's, Devout's, Steiner's). Another one I kinda want is FuSoYa's second RM for another Spring source. But Springs themselves become less useful as they de-emphasize boss rushes and our hones improve.

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #1299 on:** January 06, 2016, 08:41:18 AM »

I'd certainly be happy to have FuSoYa's RMs just for longer dungeons to have a second mage spam Quake, but in fairness I also don't want to hone Quake up and could probably get by with Mana Spring I if I did so. But damn I hate to spend those Greater Darks.
(The alternative is having a BM/Summoner and just using Summon Spring of course, but there's only the two of those right now and they're kinda middling without their RS bonus I find.)

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