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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2275 on: April 16, 2016, 06:41:44 PM »
Two 3-pulls gave me two 4* items useful for combining but no relics. 73 pulls on this banner and two SB items,  with zero FFT weapons. So the bonus battles are going to be FUN. Already missed mastery on Wiegraf,  and I'm torn between moving on to the ultimate or trying again with a hastega RW and more hones.

Edit: replacing SG with Shout got me an easy perfect run. So yeah,  that at least makes me feel better about chasing it even though the game decided to hate me.

Edit 2: Velius mastered! Hahahahahaha suck it game. Had to S/L a lot thanks to Cyclops spam in the weak phase (and all the enemies deciding to focus down Agrias in the first two turns a few times, assholes), but eventually I got lucky enough for him not to use it three straight times while I unloaded a shit-ton of SBs onto him. Mog died but I still got full medals for actions.

(Strategy: Open with Shout and Shellga, immediately followed by Cleansing Strike on Velius and Faithful Companion to knock the Archaeodemons down to 1/3 health. That's enough for single-target attacks to take them down before they do anything super-threatening, and then I can smack Velius around with abilities until he hits weakness, at which point I (a) renew Shout and (b) hope I built enough SB to spam Crushing Blow, FC and CS while (c) also hoping he doesn't decide to just murder me with Cyclops, which is brutal even with stacking breaks and shellga. Eventually it worked!)
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2276 on: April 17, 2016, 12:02:33 AM »
Welcome to the big boy's league, Shale. It's a lot of fun.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2277 on: April 17, 2016, 12:10:47 AM »
Mastered Chadarnook, Garnet/Terra/Sephiroth/Ramza/Penelo are gonna carry me for a while

I might sub in SSB Red XIII for ff7 though, instead of Ramza
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2278 on: April 17, 2016, 01:22:42 AM »
Also mastered Weigraf and Velius.  Decided to try Shout RW instead of SG.  First run, Velius casts in order:  Titan, Titan, Clops, Clops.  That did not end well.  Second run all he used was Rich, so that was easy.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2279 on: April 17, 2016, 03:51:20 AM »
I have so much FF6 gear... Chadarnook was going down certainly, but I brought a sub-par team because I wanted to get them some EXP.

Team was Celes w/ Excalibur and Diara; Relm w/ Healing and Diaga; Terra w/ her SSB and Magic BD; Ramza and Agrias w/ Knight holy skills. Brought RW SG.

What I did not bring was a Medica. (Oh god stop casting Thundaga constantly!)

Nor enough non-physical physical damage. (Yes, I'm gonna wreck this demon- What no! WHY ARE YOU SUDDENLY THE GODDESS AGAIN... EVERYONE'S ASLEEEEEEEEEP!)

Also, native Wall would have made the fight a whole smoother, I should have subbed Y'shtola in for Relm. (Okay, sure, everyone was asleep but they woke up pretty quickly, just power through it... OH GOD I'M OUT OF RW CHARGES!!!!)

But thanks to Excalibur+Ace Striker+Shout, I pulled through it anyway by the skin of my teeth. (I think Relm and Terra literally had 1 HP each...)

If you haven't taken a shot at Chaddy yet, I highly recommend using Mage Meta if that is at all possible for you. Trying to time your damage not to hit Goddess-form is a pain in the ass with huge penalties for messing up and I doubt anyone apart from Meeple has as much FF6 synergy as me to allow them to power through such a mistake...

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2280 on: April 18, 2016, 03:05:57 AM »
U+ Ultros was easy. Best him twice, though I didn't need to apparently since I got Mastery on my Cids Mission team. Party was

L77 Setzer, Power/Magic BDs
L80 Terra, Blizzaja/Firaja, Dualcast Black
L76 Celes, Saints Cross/Blizzaga Sword
L77 Mog, Shellga/Curaja, Mako Might
L80 Relm, Protectga/Curaja, Dualcast WM
Stoneraskin RW

Couple tweaks, I should have put Devotion on Terra instead. Her damage vs. Weakness was fine but in his last phases she really needed to be under Enfire to pump out anything noteworthy.

Mog is still really good. Celes' upgrade to Knight 5 makes her really good. Terra's SSB makes her pretty godly. Setzer… could debuff. Relm was another heal battery.

Ultros' only threatening move is his ITD Stone Drop, which wrecked Zach in my first go since I didn't have Penelo's medica up, but with two WMs and Sun Bath's heavy regen it wasn't actually an issue my second time around.

The difference in difficulty between U+ Bartz and U+ Ultros is night and Day. Silly DeNA.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2281 on: April 18, 2016, 03:37:15 AM »
If you haven't taken a shot at Chaddy yet, I highly recommend using Mage Meta if that is at all possible for you.

Mage meta is actually quite difficult on Chadarnook due to Demon form absorbing all but Holy and Fire. She also has specific Black Magic counters in addition to the Drain counters and, to make things more problematic, her RES is quite high (1700?). The only thing you have to watch out physically is shutting off the physical immunity at the start of the fight and pay attention to the five-turn countdown until reverting. Which entirely goes away -anyway- once Chadarnook goes below 50% HP.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2282 on: April 18, 2016, 06:46:39 AM »
Did another couple 15 pulls on the Celes BSSB banner. Got garbage, then 2 5*s. One was a Butterfly Edge (7; time to turn the Gold Sword into a rosetta stone) and the other was Relm's Brush. Could be better gameplay-wise, honestly, Relm's HP is garbage (though admittedly the same as Aeris'), but I like the character well enough and I guess if I need a healer-summoner I know where to go now.

Could be worse, at least. I could be compelled to use Gau. Hahahah ew.

That makes my 3rd Medica SSB, and all three of them rods. Do they even have staves anymore? I've never gotten a single staff.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2283 on: April 18, 2016, 12:20:26 PM »
Man, Chocobo Brush is really good and should be unquestionably your best Medica. Relm can replace Aerith in your party no sweat. I mean, Penelo actually makes a case, since Dancer 5, but a high regen Medica was amazing since Hymn of the Fayth and Relm's is that, but -improved-.

EDIT: Regarding staves: the last one I remember showing up on Global was Penelo's Judicer Staff. On JP, last notable staff to show up was... Lenna's Mace of Zeus, her official SSB (Logres stuff has been all but retconned at this point). They're quite rare, though it mostly -doesn't matter-, since the only healer who couldn't equip rods I can think of was Rosa and they fixed that.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2284 on: April 18, 2016, 02:53:08 PM »
I think Shantotto's SSB is a staff too.  Generally speaking though, yeah, staves are rare these days and they just make Black/White Rods.  I remarked on this earlier really; Aerith's Wizard Staff which is a White Mage stick is still somehow considered a rod.  Vivi's Oak Staff too, but at least that one has the stats of a Rod so it makes sense.  Go figure, Garnet's Storm Staff is a Black Stick, and she was a character in FF9 who used only Rods (and Rackets!), yet they made it a staff.

It makes the inability to use staves a pretty minor downside for the few Black Mages who can't really.  Go figure, Rinoa's Record Dive has "can equip staves" on it which would be a perk she finally has on Terra (who gets no such benefit) but given how rare Staves are these days, it'll really only come up in a situation like...well...mind, where in I have Garnet's Storm Staff and it's my only FF9 5* Black Stick.

...this topic made me go through the list of relics, Global and JP, and see how many 5* Staves there are, both in-name and in actuality.

In Name Staves (aka "these are actually rods but their name has "Staff" in it):
Flame Staff (FF1)
Ice Staff (FF3)
Full Metal Staff (FF7)
Striking Staff (FF7)
Wizard Staff (FF7
Prism Staff (FF7)
Oak Staff (FF9)

...interestingly, of the FF7 weapons, I think only the Striking Staff was called by that name in FF7 proper.  I believe everything else was called Rod in FF7, which given Aerith's weapon design, seems to make more sense.  This could explain why FF7 has so many "in-name only" staves begging the question why they didn't just re-translate them as rods.


ACTUAL Staves:
Rune Staff  (Core)
Healing Staff (FF1)
Healing Staff (FF2)
Holy Wand (FF3)
Elder Staff (FF3)
Healing Staff (FF4)
Seraphim Staff (FF4)
Healing Staff (FF5)
Judgment Staff (FF5)
Sage's Staff (FF5)
Power Staff (FF5)
Protector of Life (FF5)
Mace of Zeus (FF5)
Storm Staff (FF9)
Ice Staff (FF9)

Mage's Staff (FF9)
Braska's Rod (FF10)
Jupiter Staff (FF11)

Musk Stick (FF12)
Judicier's Staff (FF12)
Physician's Staff (FF12)
Thyrus (FF14)
White Staff (FFT)
Healing Staff (FFT)

So there's basically one "in-name only" Rod on there in Braska's Rod.  Most Staves are White Mage sticks. 

Adding to that, the "Black Sticks" on the Staff list are the bolded weapons.  That's a total of 4 and of them, one of them is from FF11, which is a realm that basically lacks any meaningful content.  To be fair, a number of those Staves do have 100+ Magic, so it's competent w/ Synergy for a Black Mage and can help in that regard.  Generally speaking, there's a lot more 5* Rods, and a lot more White Sticks in that list as well.  It begs the question of why staves even still exist at this point other than to be a mild restriction on a handful of Black Mages.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2285 on: April 18, 2016, 06:53:20 PM »
Current priorities: sweeping dailies for their remaining first-time rewards and Mythril. Vincent's event will go live tonight, but it's likely I won't bother with it until Wednesday at the earliest, must farm Gysahl Greens at double rate.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2286 on: April 18, 2016, 08:27:23 PM »
So funny thing happened to my friend.

I work with a buddy who also plays rk.

He was hounding me last week about both of us doing one more pull during the fft event.

I pretty much flat out said no, but he couldn't resist. So he prayed to his fictitious gods and pressed the button.

He got a notification the date had changed. We tried pulling right at 9:00am.

No biggie he thinks. Except all his mitral is gone.

Befuddled he looks around sees that he has new item in his inventory.

Only one 5 star.

Valiant knife.

Rk strikes again.

I couldn't help but laugh at his pain, even though that's not a horrible consolation prize.
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« Reply #2287 on: April 18, 2016, 08:38:32 PM »
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2288 on: April 19, 2016, 01:24:22 AM »
Chadarnook's Goddess form will not counter -Holy elemental- physical damage, so Magic Breakdown/Full Break are the only things you have to take care about using, and only for a small portion of the fight. I had Banishing Strike and Saint Cross split across two separate PCs, plus ~7000 damage Diagas from Lenna, so Goddess form went away before it could do anything the two times it showed up in the fight.

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According to FFWiki literally all of Aeris' weapons were rods in Japanese, usually the English word written in katakana.

As for retranslating, DeNA for some reason insists on keeping faithful to every single detail of the original FF7 localization except Aeris/Aerith; they even kept the Touph Ring typo intact. Meanwhile they refuse to use Ultros even though fans actually care about how his name is localized.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2289 on: April 19, 2016, 02:05:39 AM »
Completely unrelated but the FFRK subreddit drama from the past few days is an unexpected hilarious trainwreck to see go up in flames. Are all subreddits like this? I try to avoid Reddit if at all possible but it's the only reliable place for FFRK info at the moment.

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« Reply #2290 on: April 19, 2016, 03:20:32 AM »
From what I understand, it has something to do with Mod transparency and yeah I avoid all topics like that.  I also avoided all "Controversy" topics that weren't obviously parodies (The video with the Spanish Guy with fake subs was fine because hey, satire, for example), because those were just incessant bitching (down to people saying "THE VALIANT KNIFE IS A REAL KICK IN THE BALLS!" for example), it just shows insufferable a lot of people on that reddit really are.

There are a few people on there I still respect.  ShinVerus, for example, has been kicked in the balls by the RNG time and time again, throwing something like over 1000 mythril trying to get ONE of Terra's relics and failed every time, and he's managed to stay even headed, so I have respect for him, but that's a rare example.


That said, regarding the FF7 thing...that really does upset me that they think people care about the name of FF7 weapons (save for Touph Ring) but can't be bothered to actually translate it as "Ultros" despite how this is the common modern translation of the name and this is what the fanbase knows him as.  DeNA, just because it's FF7 doesn't much people suddenly care more about everything from it.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2291 on: April 19, 2016, 05:11:20 AM »
Completely unrelated but the FFRK subreddit drama from the past few days is an unexpected hilarious trainwreck to see go up in flames. Are all subreddits like this? I try to avoid Reddit if at all possible but it's the only reliable place for FFRK info at the moment.

You say that like the DL hasn't had mod/admin drama before.

Got another 15 mythril thanks to the spring campaign's free 5 mythril and did a 3 pull on the Rikku BSSB banner, kinda hoping for Paine's SSB since Hastega on a Steiner clone.

I got Kimarhi's SSB.

This is what I get for not being content with Relm's brush, eh.

Is this to be my penance? An SSB for someone with Combat4/Dragoon5 and nothing else of import?

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2292 on: April 19, 2016, 05:28:13 AM »
Mondailies stop making me pay attention.  I just want to autobattle shit.

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« Reply #2293 on: April 19, 2016, 05:11:15 PM »
Completely unrelated but the FFRK subreddit drama from the past few days is an unexpected hilarious trainwreck to see go up in flames. Are all subreddits like this? I try to avoid Reddit if at all possible but it's the only reliable place for FFRK info at the moment.

You say that like the DL hasn't had mod/admin drama before.

Got another 15 mythril thanks to the spring campaign's free 5 mythril and did a 3 pull on the Rikku BSSB banner, kinda hoping for Paine's SSB since Hastega on a Steiner clone.

I got Kimarhi's SSB.

This is what I get for not being content with Relm's brush, eh.

Is this to be my penance? An SSB for someone with Combat4/Dragoon5 and nothing else of import?

What Am I to be… CHOPP LIVRR?????????

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2294 on: April 19, 2016, 06:07:42 PM »
Did two 11-pulls on the Vincent Banner 1 because I could've used any one of the three Mage Weapons there, with the real prize being the Protectga Bracer.

Pull 1: Two Sephiroth's Coats and a Rosetta Stone (my Fourth Zack's Gloves)
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2295 on: April 19, 2016, 07:27:04 PM »
Git gud n00b nuggets.

This game needs a trading system.
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« Reply #2296 on: April 19, 2016, 08:06:46 PM »
That's not how freemium economy works.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2297 on: April 19, 2016, 09:38:50 PM »
100 Gem pull on Vincent Banner 1 and I got...

...a piece of crap 3*.  Well, that was anticlimactic.

On a different note, mostly taking advantage of Gyshal Greens stuff, not doing anything but the 90 Stamina Runs and doing the rest of the dungeons once the campaign ends to maximize it.  In particular, I'm already noticing that the 4* Orb drop rate from random enemies is a hell of a lot higher in the ++ than it was in the + variant.   Between that, the fact that enemies seem to always drop something (my experience is if they don't drop an orb, they often drop greens), and you 4 more Orbs total per completion and 200 more Greens (before campaign bonus), which is about on par with another 20 stamina stage run right there, feels safe to say that yeah, the ++ Runs are worth doing.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2298 on: April 19, 2016, 09:49:32 PM »
TuesMondailies stop making me pay attention.  I just want to autobattle shit.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2299 on: April 20, 2016, 01:38:58 AM »
Three single pulls because I like Yuffie. Got Vincent's SSB instead...

Guess Yuna has a nice gun for when I want her to play summoner!