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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3150 on: August 29, 2016, 12:41:25 AM »
Underprepared. The first three stages of the fight get pretty much blown up by a R3 Halting Rumba off decent MND (i.e. just bring Tyro with white mage gear and go to town).
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3151 on: August 29, 2016, 02:57:33 AM »
100-Gem pull gave me Delita's Main Gauche.  I'm sure I can slot in DEF/RES Breakdown somewhere...

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3152 on: August 30, 2016, 02:32:38 AM »
Been clearing out the Nightmares, after spending all of them since Combat clearing out the rabble but ignoring the big dog.  Just Evrae left... which will probably remain true because I just do not feel like running that fight without some sort of offensive SB.

Celerity was an odd one.  Relevant details:

Tyro (to dance)
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Shadow (Shadow Fang)

I don't think Nightmares are supposed to melt like that.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3153 on: August 30, 2016, 03:38:44 AM »
Drew again on Orlandu's OSB, got another Medicaga so will never fail another FFT event basically ever again. No TG mode but oh well.

The last Tyro's Selection banner has enough cool shit in the lotto that I'll probably use my next 50 mythril on that. I took the free secret of mana event pull and got some weapon I'll never use again and will probably just use it as a Rosetta stone.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3154 on: August 31, 2016, 12:20:23 PM »
Okay, I know U+ Golbez/Garland were kind of a joke, but they went too far in the other direction with the Cosmos side. I can either RW Wall and run out of offense or RW for offense and watch my whole team die in three turns despite stacking four layers of mitigation.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3155 on: August 31, 2016, 01:04:23 PM »
Kill Cloud first. Running Drainga/Darkra and MM+DZ also go a long way, you want to exploit that Dark weakness and DZ/MM are a very solid investment in general anyway.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3156 on: August 31, 2016, 01:12:50 PM »
SOOOOOOO, the subreddit just datamined this and this.

The first actually covers some of my main synergy holes pretty well, but the buff relic draw is the easiest skip in my life in spite of the absurd overall quality (Shout? Divine Guardian? Apocalypse Shield? BOTH SG AND THYRUS? Only real dud there is Vincent's Shotgun, they probably should've put Edward's Dream Harp there instead). Gogogogo having 4/6 of that banner -and- having Leon's AS equivalent. DeNA is really hellbent on draining all the Mythrils before guaranteed 5*s arrive.

EDIT: I also feel kinda bad for the people who chased Shout on FFT's current event too.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3157 on: August 31, 2016, 01:42:32 PM »
Yeah the only item I have from that banner is Platinum Shield so I will be pulling like there's no tomorrow. 5* guarantee or not, there's never going to be a better shot at the Big Three relics again. By contrast I'm skipping the Lucky Draw because while FF13 is easily my weakest main-series realm outside of 1, 2 and 3, the other two on that list are far and away my strongest. I'd rather save the mythril for another chance at Shout/Wall/DG.

(Also, ahahahahaha "Kill Cloud" you're adorable. If I could do that I wouldn't be in this bind. MM/DZ is tempting since it'd see some use down the line on a mage team when I finally put one together, except I need Kefka to carry Enveloping Etude in this fight so I can't actually bring the combo.)
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3158 on: August 31, 2016, 01:54:35 PM »
Yeah the only item I have from that banner is Platinum Shield so I will be pulling like there's no tomorrow. 5* guarantee or not, there's never going to be a better shot at the Big Three relics again. By contrast I'm skipping the Lucky Draw because while FF13 is easily my weakest main-series realm outside of 1, 2 and 3, the other two on that list are far and away my strongest. I'd rather save the mythril for another chance at Shout/Wall/DG.

FF12 synergy is my -bane- even after getting Ashe's excellent SSB and a couple stragglers (Capella and Gabranth's Hauberk) from the last event, so I'm picking any opportunity I can to shore it up. My FF5 synergy is decent, but there are some really glaring holes in it (no Medica/Hastega, rather poorly equipped for mages) and my FF13 synergy, while very functional, is pretty outdated by this point (also, absolutely no magical SBs worth noting). It'll also be an actual legitimate shot at Hope's Ninurta and Fang's rather good debuffing SBs, since I'm not pulling on Raines banners. I guess there's Overture too, but eh.

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(Also, ahahahahaha "Kill Cloud" you're adorable. If I could do that I wouldn't be in this bind. MM/DZ is tempting since it'd see some use down the line on a mage team when I finally put one together, except I need Kefka to carry Enveloping Etude in this fight so I can't actually bring the combo.)

Who else do you have on your lineup for the fight? I'll be honest, if you can carry DZ/MM R2 with one of Kuja/Exdeath/Edea, -even relicless-, they will do better than most non-synergy people even with SBs running. That's just how good the combo is (at R2 for both, that'd be around 100k total damage off a single PC, which is just crazy).

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3159 on: August 31, 2016, 01:58:55 PM »
Just the utility chars I need to be able to survive: Eiko for Hastega/Medica, Faris for breakdowns and AOE offense break, Mog for Multi Break and AOE high regen. If I give Mog Protectga instead of an offensive move to pair with Multi Break he can't renew the buff ever and I die. If I ditch any of them for DPS, Cloud's AOE spam deals four digit damage per shot and I die.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3160 on: August 31, 2016, 02:11:20 PM »
Considering what I could read off Kongbakpao's skill lists, would I be wrong in assuming that Cloud is mostly shut down by Tauntaliate strategies?  Even then, Terra also gets spoiled by Runics, so if you have one of those available, that's your ticket.  Or a DG RW that way, and just hope that Cloud never uses Blade Beam/Spin Drive.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3161 on: August 31, 2016, 02:15:12 PM »
I'd skip the CM entirely in your case. With Apocalypse Shield, you can probably prop up your physical offense to good enough levels (since it stacks with Sunbath) -and- solve the Protectga issue to some degree without ditching Mog's current setup. Also would make Faris offense more relevant. Though... is your Faris Breakdown SB Kindred Spirit or Sea Lord's Broadside? BY THE WAY: Leon's SSB may be useful there, since, in addition to its Dark-elemental damage, it draws both ST physicals and magic (no RES buff, but his DEF buff is SG-level and magic mitigation covers the hole on the effect).

Considering what I could read off Kongbakpao's skill lists, would I be wrong in assuming that Cloud is mostly shut down by Tauntaliate strategies?  Even then, Terra also gets spoiled by Runics, so if you have one of those available, that's your ticket.  Or a DG RW that way, and just hope that Cloud never uses Blade Beam/Spin Drive.

Once Cloud hits limit break mode, his offense gets way too AoE-happy and he even gets a NAT physical -in addition- to Blade Beam, so it only works okay on the phase where he sucks.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3162 on: August 31, 2016, 03:39:06 PM »
Broadside. Never leave home for a multi-opponent  U+ fight without it.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3163 on: August 31, 2016, 03:48:08 PM »
Broadside? Man, that stacks with both Breakdowns and Full Break, it completely mangled Leviabeetus on the last FF5 CM for me. I'm pretty sure you won't have any trouble if you slap Basch with AS + Leon with Lifesiphon to spam Cloud and Terra there.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3164 on: August 31, 2016, 04:43:06 PM »
You'd think, but when I brought it and HOTE and applied break/downs I still got taken apart.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3165 on: August 31, 2016, 04:49:39 PM »
Iunno, I think the setup -should- work within a try or two even without RS as long as you bring SG as your RW. Open with Sunbath + Emerald Light, LS on both Leon and Basch (Battleforged/Ace Striker on Basch for quickly putting up AS to stack), apply Darkborn Blade as it comes up, focusing all attacks on Cloud. Hand Basch SC as well to use once AS is up.

EDIT: Tested the setup, since I can replicate it almost perfectly besides Basch's Apocalypse Shield. 

Leon: Lifesiphon/Dark Bargain
Mog: Multibreak/Shellga
Eiko: Curaja/Protectga
Faris: Armor Breakdown/Magic Breakdown
Basch: Full Charge/Saint Cross (you can safely switch Full Charge with a 4* physical ability of your preference)

It worked first try, though the first few rounds are indeed a bit touch-and-go. As long as you have one R4 Lifesiphon on Leon and at least R2 Saint Cross on Basch, you'll have the resources to close the deal (Darkborn Blade just deals -so much damage-). I also handed Dark Bargain to Leon, but that can be left even at R1, I only used it twice. I also handed Battleforged to Leon so I could juggle both HotE and Darkborn Blade until reaching a stable battle flow (which... is likely a good idea anyway, the idea on the setup is having Darkborn Blade be the bulk of your offense).
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3166 on: August 31, 2016, 07:25:38 PM »
Darkborn Blade is in fact fucking ridiculous when it hits weakness.
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« Reply #3167 on: August 31, 2016, 07:38:43 PM »
Yep. *Darkborn Blade.* *9999.* *9999.* *9999.* *9999.* *9999.* *9999.*
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3168 on: September 01, 2016, 03:59:51 AM »
Beat the Cloud + Terra fight with:

L65 Kefka - R3 Memento Mori, R3 Dark Zone, Devotion
L80 Sephiroth - R3 Dark Bargain, R3 Full Charge, +katana damage
L80 Faris - R4 Magic Breakdown, R3 Full Break, +bow damage
L80 Y'shtola - R4 Drain, R2 Shellga, Mako Might
L80 Lenna - R4 Curaja, R2 Protectga, Dr Mog's Teaching

SBs used were Sea Lord's Broadside, Stoneskin II, and Princess' Favor. Seph had Hell's Gate but never used it, Kefka had better things to do than waste turns on shared SBs. Drain did almost no damage but helped refill Y'shtola's SB gauge. Kefka had 14s left on his doom timer when Faris got the kill, so it was a reasonably comfortable win despite 2 characters who did zero damage and one who didn't do a ton.

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« Reply #3169 on: September 01, 2016, 04:17:23 AM »
My own setup was largely steamroller central, mostly due to me having multiple synergy PCs with Endark SBs.

L71 Kefka - Heathen Frolic Sarabande R4, Enveloping Etude R1 (Gifted Artist)
L80 Exdeath - Memento Mori R4, Dark Zone R3 (Devotion)
L80 Edea - Waterga R5 (meant to slap Waterja, but derp. Never used it), Drainga R4 (Dr. Mog's Teachings)
L80 Kuja - Curaja R5, Shellga R2 (Healer's Prayer II)
L80 Sephiroth - Dark Bargain R3, Full Charge R3 (Heroic Stance)

RW: SSII

Yeah, not much to say. Edea's Inaugural Parade kept offense at a pretty stable minimum of 9999 a pop on pretty much everything but Sephiroth's Full Charge, which was honestly kinda disappointing given its charge time. Not even sure if Exdeath used all his DZ charges. Running this fight without Wall is insanity, though, there's way too much AoE and Cloud damage ramps up rather fast.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3171 on: September 02, 2016, 02:06:36 AM »
100-Gem Draw got me Hope's BSB.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3172 on: September 02, 2016, 03:06:21 AM »
Not as good as getting Vaan's BSB on the 100-gem, but still pretty much winning, yes. ;)

Finally took down Terra/Cloud. Holy crap Leon's SSB is broken-good for that fight, thank you for the suggestion, guys.

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« Reply #3173 on: September 02, 2016, 02:11:34 PM »
Okay, before the Dissidia event ends tomorrow, I decided to run Terra/Cloud once more with Shale-friendly setups, CM-style. This one was a fair deal tougher, but it worked out within a couple resets:

L80 Sephiroth: Mirror of Equity R2, Full Charge R3 (Heroic Stance). Worth noting that I used only four shots of Full Charge here, so running it at R2 is viable. Dark Bargain is also a more damaging, but less safe alternative to Mirror of Equity.
L71 Kefka: Memento Mori R4, Dark Zone R3 (Devotion). R2 Dark Zone is enough to kill Cloud, but having an extra 40k to drop on Terra isn't a bad idea. I wouldn't recommend trying Memento Mori below R2 (ideally, it should be R3, even), you want Kefka to not be dead weight later in the fight.
L80 Leon: Magic Lure R2, Lifesiphon R4 (Dr. Mog's Teachings). This drops Leon's damage considerably (DBB goes from dealing 9999 x3 to 6k x3, roughly), but I found Terra to be a lot more vulnerable to Magic Lure while at high HP than Cloud is to Draw Fire at the same threshold.
L80 Faris: Magic Breakdown R4, Full Break R3 (Battleforged). Same as before. Faris getting to her SB earlier is good.
L80 Eiko: Curaja R5, Protectga R2 (Mako Might). Yeah, Cloud's offense is actually more dangerous due to his Limit Break stat buff, so Protectga it goes. Every time I tried this party with Shellga, he eventually overwhelmed my PCs.

RW: SG/SSII

Same general strategy: open with Emerald Light and Hand of the Emperor, follow with Protectga and Magic Lure, hyperfocus Seph/Kefka/Leon on Cloud, have Faris spread breaks (Cloud first) and try to survive until Spikes is dead. Terra just isn't too scary until she gets low on HP, at which point Holy is her scariest offering, but at least it can be Magic Lure'd. Dunno if Shale cares about the CM at this point, but I think he can make it work.

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« Reply #3174 on: September 02, 2016, 07:03:02 PM »
hey rkjp, i could use some mage relics

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