Author Topic: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper (Read 214764 times)

Magic Fanatic · « **Reply #4050 on:** October 06, 2017, 12:05:34 PM »

So. Did my first Magicite this morning. Cleared Sealion with 36.95.

LDed Terra, and did it again. 32.81. Gotta keep experimenting.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #4051 on:** October 09, 2017, 04:10:25 PM »

Dissidia bonus battles: whoa, that's a lot of damage. Too bad this just means, in Squall's case, that I brought Selphie and Eiko for Last Stand Spamming while Cloud dished out 200k Cloud Cycles on his chump ass. The MO fights were kinda scary (particularly the one with Zidane spamming Slow), but they worked out with me running Faris on full Dance/Pirate Princess duty and Eiko dropping Guardian Mogs willy-nilly. 160 Vitality motes, mang, that lets me access Lightning and Vaan Legend Dives.

Meeplelard · « **Reply #4052 on:** October 09, 2017, 06:10:41 PM »

All but Fenrir beaten for the first batch of Magicite. Also beat Omega a bunch of times to get everything needed there, though didn't master single player Apex but...I can live without a bunch of upgrade mats.

Here's a thought for discomfort: Imagine the Mastery Rewards for Omega before the UI Update.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #4053 on:** October 09, 2017, 06:13:20 PM »

Quote from: Meeplelard on October 09, 2017, 06:10:41 PM

All but Fenrir beaten for the first batch of Magicite. Also beat Omega a bunch of times to get everything needed there, though didn't master single player Apex but...I can live without a bunch of upgrade mats.

Here's a thought for discomfort: Imagine the Mastery Rewards for Omega before the UI Update.

You MONSTER.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #4054 on:** October 10, 2017, 02:51:53 PM »

So, FF6 Torment. -Fire-weak FF6 Torment-. Both the 200 CM and 250 runs were unholy slaughters, Terra alone slurped nearly half Hidon's health with Omen => Scorching Flames x2 on the 250. I may support her with Refia + Cloud USB RW on the Jump Start.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #4055 on:** October 11, 2017, 03:01:01 AM »

Lucky Draw went 2/11: Ingus BSB dupe and Vincent's USB. This is really nice, but I'm not sure how much fire tech I NEED considering it's my most stacked element as is and Terra's USB/OSB combo already covers the ultrafast fire mage with a trance niche. At least he can do both physicals and magic.

Shale · « **Reply #4056 on:** October 11, 2017, 05:36:51 AM »

Refia SSB, Desch SSB, Cid 7 BSB. That's two characters I wanted BSBs for, and one whose burst I'll lately use because I have his SSB. Oh well, at the very least Desch's move is still a wrathable imperil lightning with self faith, that's pretty useful as SSBs go.

Magic Fanatic · « **Reply #4057 on:** October 11, 2017, 09:33:54 AM »

I went 2/11: Gilgamesh SSB dupe and Shelke BSB. So technically 1/11 with an extra Rosetta Stone, and I’m not even sure how often I’ll use Shelke anyway.

Shale · « **Reply #4058 on:** October 11, 2017, 12:44:13 PM »

Shelke is the best entrust user in the game with her legend materia, so if you're inclined to try for sub-30 Magicite wins there's a reason to dive her even with no relics. Having a hyper break burst can only help her case.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #4059 on:** October 11, 2017, 03:27:52 PM »

It's also an -instant- Hyper Break BSB with a Mind Breakdown command, so Shelke's a pretty high-end debuffing Support even then. She even has stats on par with a dedicated fighter, so she's a pretty strong unit in her own right even before you consider her absurd LD bonuses.

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #4060 on:** October 12, 2017, 11:58:33 PM »

Realm Lucky- Cloud OSB (dupe). Ah well.

Cleared out Liquid Flame (I don't know HOW, I went over 1:30, but) and Sea Lion (albeit without Mastery on that one). Tidus/Kimahri burst at Liquid Flame, I'm okay with never doing that one again unless I draw some big gun on Water. Sea Lion met up with Refia/Balthier, which was actually pretty fun- Balthier's random odds for Imperil Fire get weird and lock it down to True Weakness somewhat effectively, and Refia is fucking bonkers, which I usually forget because when the hell am I doing a fight where she has a synergy weapon and can nail that fire weakness? Never that's when. Honestly tempted to start her LD and see what happens, although that's probably not the optimal allocation of motes. Although I should see what she needs there.

Fenrir managed to best me on this attempt, Ayame is beastly (BSB/OSB) but that slow proc does nasty things to fight rhythm. Won't need much to get it though, got him down to negligible HP before he got a Slow in on everyone and whittled the party down with infinite Savage Wind.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #4061 on:** October 13, 2017, 01:57:26 AM »

Fenrir is the one I consistently run Slow resist in lieu of elemental resistance equips. Minimizing the odds of slowing people in that fight is way too important. Having two sources of Hastega also tends to help (I usually run Eiko or Aphmau for their USBs in addition to Shout).

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #4062 on:** October 13, 2017, 02:11:55 AM »

Yeah, I've been running dual-healer sets with Y'shtola (BSB) and Eiko (USB), but running slow resists will help. I think I have enough crystals for another hone on Snowspell. I don't think I do for Affliction Break unfortunately, although he was getting ~30% proc rates for it even under that so slow resist will probably be better.

After THAT, I made a point of taking Fujin Burst from the CT selection, so that plus Alphinaud burst should be sufficient for Golem once I have some magicite to boost them. My Earth options meanwhile are uh... Rinoa BSB1/OSB? Yeaah, hopefully at that point Hydra's the weenie fight.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #4063 on:** October 13, 2017, 04:47:13 AM »

Hydra's offense gets really nuts earlier than the others because it slams you with Savage Thunderbolts earlier than the rest. Rinoa BSB+OSB is a bad combo there for a clean, sub-1 min kill unless you have an en-element for her or some instacasts to spare. Fujin + Alphinaud are good enough for sub-1 min clears, just have some casts of Raging Storm ready, it's really good for Golem.

Shale · « **Reply #4064 on:** October 13, 2017, 02:10:07 PM »

Holy shit, thanks to DeNa screwing up the selection draw choices we now get two from each. Larsa BSB, hell yeah.

I fully cleared the Magicites with my new toys. Golem is an easy win with Fujin and Alphinaud throwing wind at him, and Liquid Flame is a joke with Bartz helping out. Shadow Dragon was a pain in the ass even with my stacked holy team, but I finally got together a routine where he'd kill Y'shtola and she immediately gets revived while WoL, Raines and Orlandeau get a holy chain going.

FF6 torment was simple, Mog BSB and Locke's BSB/OSB combo dealt with the CM easily. D300 is even more straightforward - Locke and Vivi RW Terra's USB and spam their OSBs, win.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #4065 on:** October 13, 2017, 02:18:29 PM »

I HAVE CHOICE PARALYSIS NOW

EDIT: Okay, picked Larsa BSB for the Mythril pick, that was easy. However, I have NO FUCKING IDEA of who to pick for the paid pull banner. For PRACTICAL purposes, I culled it down to the following:

Warrior of Light - nice compliment to his OSB, which I pulled on the Renewal draw, and has a fairly unique niche. Objective improvement to my holy game, gives me some armor synergy for FF1 and the holy game is relevant if I want to eventually sub-30 Shadow Dragon. HOWEVER, the latter may well be achievable with a Raines Legend Dive (I can get sub-40 runs just with Raines and some supporting DPS as is right now). And since I also drew Wol's SSB and Sarah's BSB on the Renewal banner, the need for FF1 synergy actually isn't terribly pressing anymore, I have a viable CM build with debuff-based mitigation and a very good Medica now.
Firion - Wrathable/Lifesiphonable instant MBlink remains amazing even now.
Edge - Water BSB to improve my game against Liquid Flame. Edge has -issues- building up gauge, though, and this would be more to fuel those 5* Ninja skills... which actually wouldn't be a bad idea when I have Rikku's Tidal Knuckle. It has Edge's name written all over it.
Lenna - FINALLY a healing SB for FF5 and a Mind stick that isn't completely ancient for FF5. However, how much do I -need- to cover that niche?
Bartz 2 - Water BSB to improve my game against Liquid Flame. Objectively not a great choice, though...
Setzer - Good compliment for his USB. Question is: do I -need- a more powerful debuff game when I already have Fujin BSB, Fran BSB and Faris USB?
Yuffie - Same ballpark as Edge. Same equip options, a character I like more and a more flexible skillset... but she has considerably less raw offense than he does.
Tidus - See Bartz. The BSB combos nicely with the OSB, at least... but there's that FFX banner looming with his USB and BSB2.
Vaan - Yes, it's pretty dang awesome. ON THE OTHER HAND, it also plays into "how much do I need debuffing?". To make matters more difficult, Vaan's BSB and USB are pretty much mutually exclusive. It risks being little more than a glorified +10 ATK to Vaan in spite of the on-paper package.
Sazh - I already have way too many 610 buffs, but his offers nice stackable debuffs and a neat instacast Wrath game, which is currently hard to replicate.

Someone help me.

EDIT: Some more for the lulzies possibilities: Palom, Kefka, Vivi, QUINA QUEN, Curilla, Penelo, Snow.

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #4066 on:** October 13, 2017, 10:29:33 PM »

"Huh, announcement didn't mention another selection, is that really... oh, yes. Yes it is."

Decided to take CoD burst. My FFIII is all of the map, and I have some decent physical side darkness, but y'know what I don't have? Radiant Shield native. I have most of the best stuff from the select already (Yuna, Y'shtola, and Vanille bursts, and I took Fujin's the first time around), and having that in the tool kit seems like a good idea, especially for some of the bitchier Magicites.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #4067 on:** October 14, 2017, 01:55:29 AM »

Radiant Shield is really good for Magicites, but CoD's version doesn't gel as well because of the BSB's offensive nature (I find it better on buffing SBs like Alphinaud's SSB or Curilla's amazing USB, which tends to sneak its way into a lot of my party comps even outside Magicites). CoD herself can at least function as a secondary healer, though, or a secondary DPS off hones if you care.

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #4068 on:** October 14, 2017, 12:31:33 PM »

Yeah, that's what I was looking at. Have her be able to step in and toss up Radiant Shield, maybe toss around some curajas in between might be enough to shave some times into the sub-1 range, which makes all the difference. e: since yeah, her entry being elemental means it's either useless or even counterproductive depending on the fight.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #4069 on:** October 15, 2017, 01:31:31 AM »

At least it's not entirely pointless on Mist and Shadow Dragon!

This said, took the bite and grabbed Edge's BSB for Liquid Flame purposes. Levelled him up to 99, grabbed his RM3 and went for a spin. His BSB and the water Ninja skills alone lowered by time from high 50s to 32s in a good run, which is just -insane-. With some extra Record Diving (not even taking Legend Dives into account here), I might pull off a sub-30 run with just THAT. If I bother Legend Diving him, he'll actually pump me into consistent sub-30 material and his Water spamming setup actually makes for a viable A-team unit. It'll be even DUMBER when those abilities get buffed. The USB still adds more damage due to the myriad XA and ultraquick castings, but his BSB's actually pretty damn viable even now with the Enwater. Yeah, not regretting the decision.

Meeplelard · « **Reply #4070 on:** October 15, 2017, 08:53:13 PM »

I myself picked Edea's Burst for better Ice damage, and it compliments Reynn, my only real source of ice damage, so I can focus on a Mage team in that regard. CT, I think I'll go with Larsa's Burst because it's between the following (assume "Dupe" if not listed):

Sarah: I have her SSB, so needing a good medica for FF1 isn't QUITE as needed, but still a decent option.
CoD: I have Deployment Tactics so no need for Radiant Shield, and honestly I got a good draw of FF3 stuff now, don't feel the need for CoD's. On the other side, I have plenty of Dark and Holy soul Breaks, of both flavors, to boot so doesn't really catch anything.
Krile: So...a Fire Mage BSB...I have Terra's "everything" (except Trance Fira ;_; ), Papalymo's BSB AND OSB, and Refia's BSB just to name a few...do you really think I need this?
Aerith: Ok, I could use a better FF7 Medica but god damn is this clearly worse than every other potential option on this list, so hell no. Also I do have a 2ndary Medica besides Aerth's SSB in Yuffie's Clear Tranquil to boot.
Seifer: Honestly...I look at this BSB and I'm utterly unimpressed. Plus I have his USB anyway.
Prishe: Ok, this looks actually pretty cool, not sure if I need it but it's certainly something worth looking at. I have her Medica SSB fwiw.
Larsa: Mentioned above, it's my top contender. Of note, I have nothing of his and my only FF12 Medica is Intercession.
Vanille: This one would also be good since I only have Oerba's Boon; it's use has been compromised in an era of instant USBs, but it's certainly worth looking at.
Orlandu: A BSB that really is unimpressive if you don't have his OSB, so yeah, not worth it.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #4071 on:** October 16, 2017, 05:42:14 AM »

Vanille's BSB does have -one- niche even in the instant USB era: it's the only instant Curaga BSB that comes with a command Medica. This is actually a rather relevant niche, especially when Vanille's Medica also gets that nice +30% MND boost stacked with BSB boosts. She's also one of the best healer candidates for Legend Diving, the AoE healing output she can provide is off the charts with dualcast+those healing boosts.

Clear Tranquil · « **Reply #4072 on:** October 19, 2017, 07:52:41 PM »

* Clear Tranquil picks Larsa and Orlandu

* Clear Tranquil goes on internet and sees data for Larsa Ultra

Whelp~

Magic Fanatic · « **Reply #4073 on:** October 19, 2017, 08:00:36 PM »

I went ahead and went with Vanille and Tifa for the second set. Vanille for insta-healing being a thing I lacked on a Medica, and Tifa because I have her OSB.

Also the FF7 Renewal landed me Cid’s Burst on the 100-gem.

Magic Fanatic · « **Reply #4074 on:** October 26, 2017, 05:43:47 AM »

I did a pull on the Bra Bra banner just because I saw OK's BSB on there... Got 3/11.

Mog's SSB. Well, it's... Something for when I have to use him?
Kefka's BSB2. Oh cool, I have Magic Squall now, except with Dark instead of Ice.
Edward's USB. Whelp, I run mages now forever.

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Author Topic: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper (Read 214764 times)