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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #125 on: June 12, 2016, 02:37:28 AM »
apparently it is a really French thing to do that cools coffee down quickly. you're such a poser!  ;D



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« Reply #126 on: June 12, 2016, 01:55:53 PM »
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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #127 on: June 15, 2016, 01:23:47 AM »
So that whole Orlando thing... happened. I'm starting to feel mostly normal again but it hit me pretty hard personally for a number of obvious reasons. I wasn't quite sure how to explain or process it for a while but I stumbled across someone else's post about it and it summed up how I felt so clearly I wanted to share it. I don't know if this is the right place for it but I don't really have anywhere else to post it due to not really being out on most of my social media. Hopefully it at least conveys the raw feeling well enough that I can have a discussion about it without rambling incoherently.

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Earlier today, a friend remarked: “I don’t understand. The way you are reacting, it’s almost like you knew someone in the club.”
Here’s the thing you need to understand about every LGBT person in your family, your work, and your circle of friends:
We’ve spent most of our lives being aware that we are at risk.
When you hear interviewers talking to LGBT folks and they say “It could have been here. It could have been me,” they aren’t exaggerating. I don’t care how long you’ve been out, how far down your road to self acceptance and love you’ve traveled, we are always aware that we are at some level of risk.
I’m about as “don’t give a shit what ANYONE thinks” as anyone you’ll ever meet… and when I reach to hold Matt’s hand in the car? I still do the mental calculation of “ok, that car is just slightly behind us so they can’t see, but that truck to my left can see right inside the car”. If I kiss Matt in public, like he leaned in for on the bike trail the other day, I’m never fully in the moment. I’m always parsing who is around us and paying attention to us. There’s a tension that comes with that… a literal tensing of the muscles as you brace for potential danger. For a lot of us, it’s become such an automatic reaction that we don’t even think about it directly any more. We just do it.
And then… over the last few years, it started to fade a little. It started to feel like maybe things were getting better. A string of Supreme Court decisions. Public opinion shifting to the side of LGBT rights. Life was getting better. You could breathe a little bit.
What happened with this event is dramatically demonstrated by how Matt and I are reacting to it. Matt came out fairly late, during the golden glow of the changing tide. He’s never dealt with something like this. It’s literally turned him inside out emotionally because all that stuff he read about that was just “then” became very much “NOW”. For me, I’ve had some time to adjust to the idea that people hate us enough to kill us. Matthew Shephard was my first real lesson in that. So this weekend was a sudden slap in the face, a reminder that I should never have let my guard down, should never have gotten complacent… because it could have been US.
Every LGBT person you know knows what I’m talking about. Those tiny little mental calculations we do over the course of our life add up… and we just got hit with a stark reminder that those simmering concerns, those fears… they probably won’t ever go away. We’ll never be free of them. Additionally, now we just got a lesson that expressing our love could result in the deaths of *others* completely unrelated to us. It’s easy to take risks when it’s just you and you’ve made that choice. Now there’s this subtext that you could set off someone who kills other people who weren’t even involved. And that’s just a lot.
That’s why I’m personally a bit off balance even though (or because, depending on how you look at it) I live in Texas and was not personally effected by this tragedy. Don’t get me wrong: nothing will change. I will still hold my husband’s hand in public. I will still kiss him in public. We’ll still go out and attend functions and hold our heads high.
But we will be doing those mental calculations for the rest of our lives. Those little PDAs you take for granted with your spouse. They come with huge baggage for us. Every single one is an act of defiance, with all that entails.

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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #128 on: June 15, 2016, 02:03:50 AM »
stop feeling emotions bro just because a group of people that you are a part of specifically were targeted explicitly because of traits you share why would you feel emotions or empathy

Yeah fuck that noise.  Great post and thoughts go out to everyone touched by this.
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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #129 on: June 15, 2016, 12:46:07 PM »
So that whole Orlando thing... happened. I'm starting to feel mostly normal again but it hit me pretty hard personally for a number of obvious reasons. I wasn't quite sure how to explain or process it for a while but I stumbled across someone else's post about it and it summed up how I felt so clearly I wanted to share it. I don't know if this is the right place for it but I don't really have anywhere else to post it due to not really being out on most of my social media. Hopefully it at least conveys the raw feeling well enough that I can have a discussion about it without rambling incoherently.

I can empathize only so far, having witnessed similar acts in Atlanta and been close friends-family with all that's gone down in New Orleans, or  that almost all of my friends are LGTQ with different battles but the same demon to fight. Thank you for bringing this to the forums, thank you for making this about you and your community. And the post you shared is important, their voice is important. And there's a lot to learn in rambling, and I speak for myself here saying that some overthought or constructed response isn't necessary for me to engage you. How do you feel after posting about this?

The shooting at Pulse pushed into my face the overwhelming pain we have to deal with in life. And we have to carry that pain with us as it morphs slowly.  It also made queer me think about how encouragement & support is and isn't enough sometimes, that people shouldn't need to steal their happiness in public. But at the same time, when people see support it encourages them to think differently.


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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #130 on: June 16, 2016, 05:20:31 PM »
http://imgur.com/gallery/kv3iL

A similar sentiment I ran across on Imgur.

I'm...yeah, this kind of stuff is when I feel like I'm spending my life on a fence, really. I'm bi, open about to it everyone but my Extremely Conservative Family because it would end what little contact I still have with them. But...I'm also married to a woman, don't get involved in LGBT community stuff due to being lazy, don't go out to clubs like this due to being a massive introvert...and due to that I'm NOT at risk. And I feel weirdly guilty about not being one of the ones at risk. I have perfect camouflage, not that I'm using it on purpose, things just line up that way.

But at the same time, I remember making the choice to NOT come out or even try to talk to anyone about being attracted to guys as well as girls because a kid in my highschool got the shit beat out of him for being gay. And another failed one of her classes for ~no apparent reason~ after coming out as a lesbian(nevermind that she did all her work and never should have failed, her grades just mysteriously dropped). At least she never got attacked? But she also never walked away from the school alone, she had two friends that she went everywhere with. ~I wonder why~

Not really sure what point I had or am trying to make or what here. I just kinda started talking and ??????

Read the linked thing, link is good.
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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #131 on: June 17, 2016, 09:12:36 PM »
Started my new job as a news copy editor yesterday. Gonna have to get used to working evenings again but hey, I got a job in exactly the field I wanted after three weeks of looking, so that's cool.

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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #132 on: June 17, 2016, 10:28:02 PM »
Yeah,  I have gotten really used to having a normal 8-4 job myself. Do not want to have to ever work evenings or weekends again.
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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #133 on: June 17, 2016, 10:29:18 PM »
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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #134 on: June 17, 2016, 11:07:48 PM »
Yeah,  I have gotten really used to having a normal 8-4 job myself. Do not want to have to ever work evenings or weekends again.

News don't stop for evenings and weekends! At least I'm not working 22 days in a row anymore.

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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #135 on: June 18, 2016, 10:29:52 AM »
Yeah fuck that noise. No amount of money's worth that kind of stress. I don't mind working long days but I do mind not having days off.
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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #136 on: June 25, 2016, 05:09:16 PM »
Any audiobook suggestions for a 14 hr drive? I may stop in Nawlins to sleep overnight, so I would be taking a scenic route of oil factories, trees and dirty water.

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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #137 on: June 25, 2016, 05:36:18 PM »
The Dresden Files are done by James Masters which is pretty appealing. 

Otherwise, I really dug both of Stephen Fry's autobiographies.  Michael Caine's is pretty great too
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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #138 on: June 27, 2016, 03:37:32 AM »
For some odd reason, Aubile's a Dresden files sounds so wonky and computery electronic on my phone. I am gonna split a Stephen Fry ab with Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon. Thanks!

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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #139 on: July 09, 2016, 01:58:05 PM »
two marches in atl yesterday, the last reached abt 10k. I've been to marches before, but never that large, which is still even a fragment of the figures we hear from there'ol'historic'times. gonna splash into the next one, so curious about how that feels physically and aurally. 

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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #140 on: July 11, 2016, 01:49:30 AM »
Holy shit. 

So...when was my last post?  Real life sucks, and the past 4 years have just been insane at both work and personal life.  Good, but I hate how much I've missed here.  Serious with trying to keep up with things :/  Really!

So...it really has been 4 years since I was last significantly active.  Have lots of movies, games, etc. to talk about.  But for a Good Morning topic...

As has been said already, bought a house.  Thank Sweet Lord Cthulhu for home warranties - HVAC system has been down for 2 weeks, another 2 weeks until it's in and replaced.  Old house, so we knew stuff would be happening, but not that it'd be leaking fucking carbon monoxide for the first 2 months in the damn house.  No wonder we felt like shit.  Again, home warranties are awesome.

Up for promotion at work this year, which is exciting.  That's eaten up time - this past year especially has probably been the most insane ever.  A lot of it is because of something I can't mention (but a couple people know about), although that's probably winding down soon. 

And a new kitten.  That's been pretty awesome! 

So, hope everyone else has been pretty good with life so far - reading back a bit to see specifics. 
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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #141 on: July 11, 2016, 06:28:34 PM »
Costa Rica was fun, just playing cleanup after the fact now.
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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #142 on: July 11, 2016, 07:05:00 PM »
"Fun," yes. That's definitely the word that comes to mind.

Congrats on life, OK! You're still a miserable pile of secrets, though.
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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #143 on: July 18, 2016, 02:58:00 PM »
I've been vacationing in Oklahoma for the last week and I'm about to head home. First of all, I came down primarily to take my brother to a Texas Rangers baseball game for the big 4-0. It was good fun, and although they lost, we had a good time. Otherwise, it's been a pretty uneventful trip. Spent a few hours showing my parents how to use their new laptop and how to set up Netflix - my dad is having a really good time watching new shows on it. (My parents don't have cable, so their choices have been limited.) I told them how to get a cable to set it up on the tv, but dad seems to like watching it on the laptop. My long time friend came down for a couple of days from northern Oklahoma, and we (and her husband) had a good time talking about Pokemon GO and Undertale and eating too much breakfast together.

So my brother's birthday was Saturday, and I make these big plans to hang out with him, take him bowling and then dinner, but he is a no-show and didn't tell me anything. To be frank, it has happened to me before, he usually just gets drunk on the weekend, but I still found it very frustrating. I ended up just having a good time with my mom bowling and drinking girly alcohol while playing Yahtzee.

I had fun, but I'm ready to go home.
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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #144 on: July 18, 2016, 07:09:53 PM »
"Fun," yes. That's definitely the word that comes to mind.

Congrats on life, OK! You're still a miserable pile of secrets, though.

Man, my life is as much of an open book as my legs are. 
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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #145 on: July 18, 2016, 10:37:55 PM »
My plan for a while now has been to work at my current position right up until DLCon then not go back to it after, and while I haven't formally put in notice (that'll be next week) it's late enough in the game I'm not backing out of that plan.  And since really it's gone from regular bad to miserable, bordering on insufferable (in that I'm tempted about once daily to just give up and leave rather than doing things properly) it's the best thing for all parties involved.

But I'm not entirely sure what I should be doing besides that.

In a lot of ways I should really just pick up stakes, go somewhere with more robust options in my field (Foodservice Options in Dumbfuck MI: small casual dining/bar restaurants or national catering services doing schools/healthcare facilities), and spend a couple years someplace that'll jump out on a resume.  Except moving several thousand miles is intimidating and I have no idea what I'm doing, what order I should do it, any of that good stuff.

On the other hand I'm doing okay enough locally (like, to keep my folks happy I sent resumes out to two places over the last couple months.  Both got back to me within a week, one with a job I turned down and one with a part-time offer I didn't interview for but did talk to a human at least) that if I were to stay in Michigan I don't think it'd be an issue.  Except I really don't think I can keep living where I'm at for more than the next few months and... if I'm moving at all, moving away from this shitfest would be a big deal?  I dunno.

The frustrating thing is I should really decide in the next week or two and start putting in the leg work on this, but ffffffffffffffftttlttttt I just kinda hate everything right now and want to just curl up in bed and lock the doors for a few weeks.
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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #146 on: July 19, 2016, 01:20:25 AM »
Best thing to do is impulsively apply to jobs in random places you want to live and see what sticks. I went 1/2 there- 1 success and 1 total failure. Either way, it's better than doing nothing.
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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #147 on: July 19, 2016, 06:51:38 PM »
Super - did you tan?
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« Reply #148 on: July 19, 2016, 08:28:46 PM »
Yeah, just start firing off applications.  It depends on where you want to go and your qualifications, but if you want to get out, you need to put yourself out there as much as possible (since you'll be fighting against way more people than you can imagine).

Also, Dunie's suggestions are good for moving - be frugal, start packing at least a month in advance.  Short period moves are hell. 
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Re: Good Morning 2016: Man hat doch nicht alle Tassen im Schrank!
« Reply #149 on: July 19, 2016, 11:34:19 PM »
Well, moving won't be too bad really.  If I have to leave things they'll be safe enough for a time, and since none of the furniture is mine if it came down to it everything probably COULD fit in my car, which realistically I'd probably have to take.

One of the things I'm wondering about is every interview I've ever done has been an in-person thing so I'm not sure how common that is in other bits of the country.  Or if it's like an industry thing rather than a regional thing.  I have no idea!  So I guess y'all are kinda saying just blanket a few places, see which one that responds I'm most interested in, then... go?
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