Author Topic: Is there a politics thread? Guess I'm making one (Read 72935 times)

OblivionKnight · « **Reply #550 on:** December 05, 2016, 01:43:52 AM »

If only there were a reasonable chance in hell that the recounts would change things

Pyro · « **Reply #551 on:** December 05, 2016, 03:44:40 AM »

The president elect insists there were millions of fraudulent votes cast. Clearly we need to mulligan the whole damn thing.

dunie · « **Reply #552 on:** December 05, 2016, 02:13:37 PM »

Quote from: Makkotah on December 05, 2016, 12:23:03 AM

EDIT: Good news, at least.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watch/construction-of-dakota-access-pipeline-will-stop-824491587812

forgive the MSNBC link I've seen it on other sites as well and just can't be arsed to find them atm

Yes! And let's do more than hope that these articles about Trump's interest in privatizing reservation territories are malarky.

Shale · « **Reply #553 on:** December 07, 2016, 10:20:48 PM »

Today's nominees...

Heading up EPA: Scott Pruitt, attorney general of Oklahoma, has sued EPA over almost every major rule released since 2012 (when he took office), says climate change "is not settled science" and has never actually worked at an environment department in his life.

Heading the Small Business Administration: Linda McMahon, co-founder of WWF/WWE with her husband Vince (such a bastion of worker protections there) and the second-biggest donor to the Trump Foundation behind the Trump family as a whole. Meaning the McMahons put more money into that foundation than Donald Trump the individual, and have now been rewarded with a Cabinet seat.

Kill me.

Grefter · « **Reply #554 on:** December 07, 2016, 11:51:27 PM »

Well at least you have this to look forward too in the future.

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Also having in your head that there is "Settled science" should automatically disqualify you from touching anything to do with science until you have proven to at least have an 8th grade understanding of Scientific Method.

The Duck · « **Reply #555 on:** December 09, 2016, 12:33:34 PM »

Quote from: Shale on December 07, 2016, 10:20:48 PM

Today's nominees...

Heading up EPA: Scott Pruitt, attorney general of Oklahoma, has sued EPA over almost every major rule released since 2012 (when he took office), says climate change "is not settled science" and has never actually worked at an environment department in his life.

Heading the Small Business Administration: Linda McMahon, co-founder of WWF/WWE with her husband Vince (such a bastion of worker protections there) and the second-biggest donor to the Trump Foundation behind the Trump family as a whole. Meaning the McMahons put more money into that foundation than Donald Trump the individual, and have now been rewarded with a Cabinet seat.

Kill me.

"Here we have a beautiful swamp, the best swamp. A swamp like you've never seen. You won't believe how great this swamp will be."

The Secretary of Labor is also a Carl's Jr CEO who hates the minimum wage. This bodes well.

I am somehow surprised that every single pick that is being made for this cabinet seems tailor made to make me angry.

OblivionKnight · « **Reply #556 on:** December 09, 2016, 05:58:27 PM »

I don't know if I'm getting angrier - I find myself laughing more and more each bit of news that gets released. It's just almost unbelievable how much of a goddamned step backwards things are taking.

Grefter · « **Reply #557 on:** December 10, 2016, 01:01:35 AM »

http://www.npr.org/2016/12/07/504486620/reporters-notebook-what-a-muslim-on-the-campaign-trail-in-2016

Remember this.

The Duck · « **Reply #558 on:** December 10, 2016, 04:11:50 PM »

Quote from: Grefter on December 10, 2016, 01:01:35 AM

http://www.npr.org/2016/12/07/504486620/reporters-notebook-what-a-muslim-on-the-campaign-trail-in-2016

Remember this.

I've been following her coverage this entire campaign, she is pretty excellent and was always very professional with her stories and coverage, despite all of the abuse she was getting going around the country.

oh yeah there's also this

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_russiahack-745p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.6bdd0174e676

Fenrir · « **Reply #559 on:** December 10, 2016, 07:51:03 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/12/09/trump-transition-team-for-energy-department-seeks-names-of-employees-involved-in-climate-meetings/

Yeah...

Captain K · « **Reply #560 on:** January 21, 2017, 01:30:44 AM »

You've probably seen this already, but if not, enjoy:

http://imgur.com/Gk7eEmD

Grefter · « **Reply #561 on:** January 23, 2017, 06:10:52 AM »

http://www.vladtv.com/article/224080/trump-administration-deletes-spanish-language-lgbt-whitehouse-webpages

Rememeber this.

The Duck · « **Reply #562 on:** January 28, 2017, 06:29:06 PM »

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/28/us/refugees-detained-at-us-airports-prompting-legal-challenges-to-trumps-immigration-order.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-ab-top-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

This is fucking disgusting.

Dark Holy Elf · « **Reply #563 on:** January 28, 2017, 07:16:32 PM »

Absolutely awful.

OblivionKnight · « **Reply #564 on:** January 29, 2017, 12:17:11 AM »

*Kicks the Doomsday Clock an additional 30 seconds closer to midnight*

We have an international medical exchange program with Oman. Technically, they're ok, but who knows what might happen in the next 2 weeks...

Grefter · « **Reply #565 on:** January 29, 2017, 12:28:51 AM »

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/opinion/trumps-immigration-ban-is-illegal.html

Some questions about the legality of it, which makes me ask what you even can do about it even if it is.

Shale · « **Reply #566 on:** January 29, 2017, 08:25:26 PM »

If you're CAIR or the ACLU, you can sue the fuck out of them, apparently. And then the Trump administration can say "fuck you, still gonna hold them."

So here we are. Full-fledged constitutional crisis on the second weekend of the administration. I know it's selfish, but my biggest worry right now is that my livelihood depends on the existence of a free press and a functioning federal government.

Grefter · « **Reply #567 on:** January 29, 2017, 08:37:46 PM »

While I am sure your skills are fully transferable to Minitruth I don't really think that is super selfish.

OblivionKnight · « **Reply #568 on:** January 29, 2017, 09:26:42 PM »

I believe the proper term is, "alternate facts"

Cotigo · « **Reply #569 on:** January 29, 2017, 11:48:16 PM »

Paging Jim because I want an informed opinion regarding Trump's Muslim ban and the still vacant SCOTUS seat:

So this is obviously going to the SCOTUS. Is the fact that Trump tried to do something that was so obviously going to get challenged in court while Scalia's seat still remains vacant a potential asset at all? Like, to ensure that his nominee will vote to uphold the executive order? Or... something?

I ask mostly because it seems like such an incompetent amateur hour move that I'm forced to conclude that they're either actually that incompetent or there is some tinfoil hat level conspiracy theory shit going on and I need some facts to ground me.

Tide · « **Reply #570 on:** January 30, 2017, 01:16:32 AM »

Quote from: The Duck on January 28, 2017, 06:29:06 PM

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/28/us/refugees-detained-at-us-airports-prompting-legal-challenges-to-trumps-immigration-order.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-ab-top-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

This is fucking disgusting.

It gets worse when you realize that the order doesn't do anything and is smoke and mirrors at best: http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/25/14383316/trump-muslim-ban-immigration-visas-terrorism-executive-order

I think I am having a crisis of faith in humanity right now. Like, how does this even accomplish anything other than ostracizing Muslims and give reasons for them to become extremists? Imagine if you were on the other side of the fence and the place your flying into for work/vacation just detained you because of a religion or place you are from. Except now imagine that you live there and you are barred from seeing your family. What the actual fuck. I don't know much about politics, but this is shit that you don't need to have a particular stance to see that it's completely messed up.

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So here we are. Full-fledged constitutional crisis on the second weekend of the administration. I know it's selfish, but my biggest worry right now is that my livelihood depends on the existence of a free press and a functioning federal government.

I think we all knew that Armageddon was coming shortly after the 20th. As for worrying about your own livelihood, I think that's pretty natural. If it wasn't for work, I'd be very tempted to go a protest tomorrow. There's apparently one taking place in TO. That's sort of the problem I find - the people who are most able to complain are those that don't have other commitments and yet the internet will shit on these people for doing something that is morally just. Fuck.

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #571 on:** January 30, 2017, 01:27:00 AM »

Quote from: Tide on January 30, 2017, 01:16:32 AM

It gets worse when you realize that the order doesn't do anything and is smoke and mirrors at best: http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/25/14383316/trump-muslim-ban-immigration-visas-terrorism-executive-order

I think I am having a crisis of faith in humanity right now. Like, how does this even accomplish anything other than ostracizing Muslims and give reasons for them to become extremists.

That's exactly what it's supposed to do. That and be a stab against liberals and a general sowing of chaos in the government. Part of Steve "Nazi in the Fucking White House" Bannon's plan to topple the government and replace it with a 1000 year white supremacist Reich.

Cotigo · « **Reply #572 on:** January 30, 2017, 01:32:58 AM »

On the plus side, there was a protest sign that said "Fuck White Supremacy" that received airtime on the news for like, a full minute, so that was neat...

NotMiki · « **Reply #573 on:** January 30, 2017, 04:31:11 AM »

Quote from: Makkotah on January 29, 2017, 11:48:16 PM

Paging Jim because I want an informed opinion regarding Trump's Muslim ban and the still vacant SCOTUS seat:

So this is obviously going to the SCOTUS. Is the fact that Trump tried to do something that was so obviously going to get challenged in court while Scalia's seat still remains vacant a potential asset at all? Like, to ensure that his nominee will vote to uphold the executive order? Or... something?

I ask mostly because it seems like such an incompetent amateur hour move that I'm forced to conclude that they're either actually that incompetent or there is some tinfoil hat level conspiracy theory shit going on and I need some facts to ground me.

I'm sure it will come up in Senate questioning. And Trump's alleged short list is mostly normal, more in the vein of Scalia than Alito. Serious judges, albeit repugnantly right-wing.

There is no grand plan here on the legal side; this is all about optics and communicating directly with the base.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/01/who-hell-running-things-white-house

There are basically two possibilities of what happened here. Either the Trump administration made a premeditated judgment to hit current green card holders and detain immigrants at the airport, or they stumbled into it then ran with it. I'd bet on the former...but if that were the case, why not write a clearer executive order? Still, 8 days into Trump's presidency, it's unwise to bet against cruelty for cruelty's sake. These are evil people, and they get boners from this kind of thing. Bannon is probably jerking off to the 12-year-old separated from her parents right now.

Cotigo · « **Reply #574 on:** January 30, 2017, 04:51:53 AM »

So I just looked at YouTube and learned that A) The White House now has an official Youtube account and 2) Trump's address to the American People from the 28th is at this time of writing #4 in their Trending algorithm.

So we have propaganda from Cheeto Big Brother at the behest of his LITERAL NAZI SHADOW ADVISOR streamed directly into our homes. Because all the media that doesn't come directly from Trump is fake. Trump will keep you safe. Trump's got this.

Like. I think my biggest crisis is the realization of just how on the nose it all is. Are they going to make the Secret Service wear fucking iron crosses on their goddamn uniforms?

This isn't reality, this is the goddamn plot of Captain America 2. FUCK Captain America 2.

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