Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!

[Captain K]

slamming your head against the worst aspects of randomizer ROM hacks until you get something remotely playable. 

So they nailed classic Fire Emblem gameplay!

[Grefter]

If the set is bad for your team and the level ranges are too fucked, either level a B team up, the stamina cost for low level teams is nearly meaningless or go do a story map for a bit more Stamina and less EXP but a fixed encounter.  Even reduced experience is better than 0 experience for a hard wipe.

[Shale]

Surprise new banner!

....it's just 5* versions of characters who were already available, and they pretty much suck! Yay!

[Grefter]

Usual doom and gloom not sure how much will play statements here.

Fun pattern I have noticed that might be isolated, but when I start the app up while also taking a call on my iPhone 6S Plus the audio slows down to like a quarter speed.  So everyone sounds like they are spooky nightmare ghosts and all the SFX sounds like it is underwater and really chill.  Might be worth trying to reproduce.

[Dark Holy Elf]

Surprise new banner!

....it's just 5* versions of characters who were already available, and they pretty much suck! Yay!

Tiki is cool! But yeah this is not an exciting banner. I now have a stock of like 60 orbs and mostly all I do is look at them and wish I'd been able to amass them before the two launch banners had closed.

If the set is bad for your team and the level ranges are too fucked, either level a B team up...

To be perfectly honest you should always have flexibility in who you are levelling, the game really really rewards choosing units who match up well against the preview. I always do this and hardly ever lose training tower fights unless I definitely am biting off more than I can chew (which I do sometimes because hey, sometimes I enjoy YOLOing against a map 6 levels higher because winning those is sweet).

This does bring me to what I feel is the game's biggest interface flaw: choosing a team is something I want to do before every freaking battle but every time I do it it kicks me out to the battle menu and I have to click through to get back to where I was before. Not the end of the world but at this point the total time lost to this is substantial.

[Captain K]

Beat the Lunatic Lance quest, the Sword and Axe ones are not happening with my lineup and levels.

FRobin was easy due to Julia tanking all the things, then retreating and Ephraim cleaning up.

Unless there's a last minute rush I should get 1500 feathers from rank this week.  Nice, except this is offset by having zero defenses.  This is odd because I usually have dozens of defenses. *shrug*

[Hunter Sopko]

I beat the Sword one by burning 3 Light's Blessings. I was doing at best 6 damage to the armored knight with Hana, so it took a bit before I happened on kiting it and Rally Attack with her to let Fir (whose super would also be charged by the rez) and Seliph also do damage. Sadly even with his level advantage Roy couldn't even tink due to the -20% skill.

Worth the 20 Great Seals.

Sadly the one I REALLY needed was the Lance one, since I want to upgrade Sharena first. I got like 5-6 more Green Great Seals in all my training raise the all-weapon team scrubs. Just not enough quality Lance users, (Sully, Gwendolyn, Est) and they're all at ~20. Axe I at least beat 7th Stratum, but similar boat there other than 37Fred and 30Camilla with low 20's Cherche and Anna.

Also got the 2Star FRobin by rotating out tank duty up front.

[Lord Ephraim]

Screw that lance mastery quest where you have to KO hector.  I'm not going to level up Oboro or Est just for some greater badges I already have in bulk.  Probably helps that I rolled 3 of the 4 focus heroes for the easy quests. Ironically I needed the badges associated with Seliph and I did not get him.  4518 Arena score, and probably not going any higher unless I start taking out mages for Effie. 

New heroes should focus more on making better colorless units, like SOTHE or ROLF.  There's a gigantic gap between Takumi/Kagero and everyone else.  Jeorge has a similar stat spread to Takumi but close combat is pretty goddamn broken.  Also axe users need some help, Hector is in own league above everyone else.  Camilia feels pretty mediocre but she's still the second best melee green.

Continue to save orbs for a new banner.  Sexy Tiki is actually the worst dragon, Fir is just above HINATA on the sword tier list, Hawkeye gets toasted at any range, and Maria is bad because healers are bad.  I wouldn't count on a Hector or Azura banner anytime soon;  Nintendo is raking in that whale money people trying to pull them.

[Shale]

I'd settle for a banner with two featured blues.

[Hunter Sopko]

Screw that lance mastery quest where you have to KO hector. 

I can get Hector down, but not the other Armored Knight, and I couldn't really damage it at all so I just declined burning the Light's Blessings.

[Shale]

Looks like the next update to the game will be letting us sacrifice a character to transfer one of their skills to somebody else. That's got potential for some serious fuckery, especially if Distant/Close Counter is transferrable...

[Hunter Sopko]

I could see them sorta being able to balance it if its just Weapon/Support/Specials and not the ABC skills.

[Lord Ephraim]

Close Counter Kagero would be disgusting.  R/G Tomebreaker Hector. Wary Fighter on pretty much any slow 2 movement unit like Chrom/Seliph/Ephraim.  Yeah, it has to be severely limited or whales would be literally unstoppable.

[Dark Holy Elf]

I'd settle for a banner with two featured blues.

This doesn't actually increase your odds of getting a blue over a banner that only has one blue, the way the odds work. (If your complaint is that Ephraim is kinda underwhelming and/or doesn't fit your current team that's fair.)


Close Counter/Distant Counter getting to other PCs doesn't feel that disgusting to me just because it's not like the characters with those are balanced around them as is. Also that means if I draw Hector/Takumi I can sacrifice them to buff a unit I actually like.


I have considered using a Light's Blessing to get some of the more ridiculous weapon achievements but I've never used one of those yet and out of principle I don't really want to start now. Great Badges don't strike mas that valuable/hard to get anyway, unless feathers become a whole lot more common than they currently are.

[metroid composite]

Currently running Ephraim, Julia, Takumi, and a low level Olivia to Dance Dance Revolution them.  Had a near perfect run in arena bringing me to 4153 points, but I haven't been able to pull off a full no-death run.  The map with the 2-2 split of units is very hard to keep Olivia alive on.

No death runs on Advanced aren't too hard if you cheeze the system a little.  I had none of the focus heroes for this season, except for Narcian, so I put in a level 7  two-star Narcian and a bunch of 40s.  It just matches the overall stats of your units, so it was putting me up against level 25-30 parties.  My 23 speed Cecilia was running around doubling everyone; it was pretty great.

It only gets worse the higher you go, my highest units are in the low 30s and I can easily go through my entire stamina bar without gaining a single level on any of them because of shitty tower maps causing outright wipes or just killing the characters gaining most of the EXP each time.

Mmm...not that I haven't wiped in the training tower, cause I totally have.  But like...the only unit I abandoned levelling cause he died too much was a 3-star Odin whom I was only levelling for the Arena focus hero bonus, before I decided to stop being cheap and promote my 2 star Narcian to 3 star.  But my 2 star Anna is about the same level Odin was and is doing fine.

In general the lower the star level the character the harder it will be to level, of course, since you get a lot more exp when killing enemies higher level than yourself, so having high stats for your level is helpful...which 4 star and 5 star units have.  Getting 4 star heroes to 40 is pretty easy in my experience.  (I didn't have much trouble getting 4 star Ovelia to 40 for instance, even though she's a dancer and "supposed" to be hard to level).

As for time investment...once I realized all my pulls were bad and I needed to promote 2* and 3* units...going 1-40 with 4-star Ovelia, 4-Star Shareena, 4-star Nino, and a flex spot (healer or a higher level unit to set up kills) took me...3 or 4 days I think?  Shouldn't take too long.

[metroid composite]

I'd settle for a banner with two featured blues.

This doesn't actually increase your odds of getting a blue over a banner that only has one blue, the way the odds work. (If your complaint is that Ephraim is kinda underwhelming and/or doesn't fit your current team that's fair.)

Based on testing I've seen, it actually does.

https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/5si75a/data_of_350_gacha_pulls/

Which people have used for calculations:

https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/5uw9ps/5star_single_pull_probability_psa_more_focus/



The going theory is that the game does the following:

For each slot, determine the type of hero it will be (3*, 4*, 5*, or focus).  Then it rolls the actual hero.  And then it displays to the user only the colour of the hero.

So for blue for example...the chance of a random 5* being blue is 1/4 * 3%, so 0.75%.  The chance of a random focus being blue on a banner with two blue is 2/4 * 3% so 1.5%.  Altogether about 2.25% of orbs will be both Blue and either a focus or a 5*.  But only about 25% of orbs are blue, so something like 9% of blue orbs will be 5*.

[Dark Holy Elf]

Ooh, that makes sense.

Arena matching/balance is really dumb in a number of ways and I would most likely ignore that part of the game if not for the fact that it gives rewards (and I just know sooner or later I'm going to get a 3-4* Nailah or something and then not having feathers for that would be unacceptable).

[metroid composite]

Arena matching/balance is really dumb in a number of ways and I would most likely ignore that part of the game if not for the fact that it gives rewards (and I just know sooner or later I'm going to get a 3-4* Nailah or something and then not having feathers for that would be unacceptable).

I mean...cheesing out the system like I accidentally did doesn't give you particularly good score (I was under 4k).  The team you face determines how much score you can get, and you will always face teams close to your stat total.  This is why people take like...Effie into Arena--mostly because she has a high stat total to increase the maximum points you can get by facing more powerful teams.

EDIT: the arena rating formula, since it was cracked pretty recently:

https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/5vrdq6/arena_max_rating_formula_i_found_it/

[Grefter]

Everyone implying you don't literally go big every training tower map, what is this.

Won Robin thing on third try after trying and failing to use my Shanna to tank mages, I mean it is only what Peg Knights are known for.    Anyway, throwing Hector at them and parking my shitty adult Tiki next to him to Res boost got the job done with him at 1HP.

[Meeplelard]

Did a 5 pull on the new banner because hey, I have plenty of orbs, why not?  Figure maybe I'll do at least one pull on each banner as the 100 Gem or daily half-draw pull equivalent from those games.

Saw I had no reds, so my results?

5* Maria
4* Nino (...well, at least being 4* means it can merge properly...)
4* Peri
3* Subaki
3* Serra

...well, I have finally have a decent healer I suppose.

[Lord Ephraim]

Pulled Lucina twice off banner.  With so many 5* reds, that's insane.  Too bad they both rolled terrible IVs (+HP, -atk) (+res, -def).  The first one is already level 40.  -atk is bad but I think the -def one gets 2HKOed by Takumi.  I want to merge them together but if the two stats that go up are useless like res and HP it would be for nothing.

Also the movie will always play if you pull a 5* variant.  I've got a few Robins but only the first one played the movie.

[Dark Holy Elf]

Cleared the Hard Robin map by having Lyn and her weirdly high res + Tiki backup tank the storm + axe guy, then she walks forward and ORKOs Robin, activates Galeforce and retreats to be healed. From there, with the axedude dead, Catria can move in and sweep the rest. Pretty fun. And now I have yet another green tome user to vie for my attention...

My main peeps are around Level 33-38 now.

[Meeplelard]

Don't think i can realistically do the Robin map with my set, unfortunately.  Team just isn't good at hit and run which feels necessary if you don't have the right kind of bulky PCs.

[Grefter]

I didn't run it for a couple of days so removed.  It is all just shit posting from here.

[Lord Ephraim]

New banner is: Klein, Lachesis, Olwen, Reinhardt, Sanaki and Eldigan

Two semi obscure characters from Fire Emblem 5, Fail FE6 Archer #2, more incest, and Tallychu's waifu