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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #175 on: March 08, 2017, 05:30:57 PM »
After a week of garbage and building a 5* pull to 9% total, I get 5* Hawkeye and Kagero in the same session.

Hawkeye is so bad.  Every single one of his stats are 4 or more less than Hector while having 30(!) Res.   He still gets OHKOed by Tharja.

Kagero is -def +res so I got a pretty amusing mage slayer.  The only reason you want to pull colorless stones is for Kagero or Takumi.  I already have Jeorge and Klein, so unless they make RD Shinon into a character, no reason I should touch colorless ever again.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #176 on: March 09, 2017, 12:40:12 AM »
Shale, your -hp +spd Minerva rules. I've been killing freaking Lucinas left and right with her, it's great, and she checks blues very nicely.
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #177 on: March 09, 2017, 01:21:46 AM »
Yeah, seriously. Same here.

Tal's Fae has also helped out on occasion.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #178 on: March 09, 2017, 03:06:15 AM »
Been playing this. Friend ID is 7588015420.

Best unit is a +Atk/-Res Cordelia. Galeforce And crazy offense is nuts~

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #179 on: March 09, 2017, 09:24:11 PM »
Shale, your -hp +spd Minerva rules. I've been killing freaking Lucinas left and right with her, it's great, and she checks blues very nicely.

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(But wait, is there a way to check who your borrowed characters come from? That'd be neat.)
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #180 on: March 09, 2017, 09:39:33 PM »
The borrowed character is always your friend's leader (ie the person they have next to their name on the friendslist). The random character is shown in the Friend Request box after the battle. The third character is the leftmost of your current party. So you just check the character against your friendslist and viola.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #181 on: March 09, 2017, 09:52:58 PM »
I should probably post mine: 2267742526 Nickname: Tacomeat

E: My friendlist got deleted after three months of inactivity for some reason.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #182 on: March 09, 2017, 10:00:19 PM »
I've been reduced to making quality shitposts on reddit.
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #183 on: March 10, 2017, 05:55:48 PM »
Good lord, that Ursula battle suuuuuuucks. Of my 5 stars, three are infantry and get murderized by the thieves, one is -HP Minerva who isn't actually weak to their attack but still gets killed to death because she's made of glass, and one is Effie so she (a) has to go through the corridor a step at a time because if Roy steps out to Shove her he dies; and (b) loses WTA against the knight so the whole exercise is pointless.

I guess I'll take the 3 star version!
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #184 on: March 10, 2017, 06:07:25 PM »
I was 5 HP from winning the 4-star version. I'm gonna burn all my stamina trying to beat that thing.
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #185 on: March 10, 2017, 06:16:54 PM »
Shale: You've got Lilina, right? Go in with her and Minerva. From the starting |- formation, make sure Lilina is in position on the eastmost spot, and have Minerva go from the southernmost point 2 tiles east to bait out Ursula once she is. She won't get doubled, and should easily survive a hit. That'll bait the axe knight out, which Lilina then blows up. The northern ninja (with Escape Route) will come into position to get attacked by Minerva, fairly safe from retribution (Camilla is actually better here, because she outright OHKOs with a Brave Axe, but Minerva should be able to weather the hits.)

The ninja has 39 speed and your Minerva has 41 even, so if you have anyone with Hone Speed or Rally Speed you might want to bring them along and have them buff Minerva beforehand so she can go for the OHKO on the ninja. They can be safely positioned for this in the center of the |- formation.

I had Camilla for this strategy, and she OHKOed Ursula after hitting the ninja. Minerva should be able to pull that off as well. The problem there is that you expose yourself to the red cavalier, so you'll have to devise a way to either get your unit out of the way (Dance, Draw Back) or wall them off with a blue, preferably a non-infantry one. I brought Olivia/Catria as my other two picks, and after Ursula died, danced Catria into position to block off Camilla (or your Minerva, in this situation) from being hit by the cavalier. At this point he should suicide into your blue, and you've just got to pick off the remaining ninja (or ninjas, if you couldn't OHKO the other one). Not exactly easy, but still doable. 4* is a nice upgrade if you plan to use Ursula at all, so it's worth trying.
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #186 on: March 10, 2017, 09:01:52 PM »
Interesting proposal, but once Lilina steps into the line of fire to deal with the axe knight she gets one-shotted by a thief or Ursula the next turn, depending on positioning.
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #187 on: March 10, 2017, 09:12:20 PM »
I just did the 3*. It's easy enough to get Ursula to 20.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #188 on: March 10, 2017, 09:27:14 PM »
Oh, I see. Yeah I hadn't accounted for Ursula oneshotting her.

Do you have any tanky blue non-infantry? (Abel, Catria come to mind) Stealing someone's pic for a sec:



Assuming Minerva replaces Camilla and Lilina replaces Julia, and you have a blue unit in place of Lyn (you should definitely use Olivia if you have her, but in lieu of that it could be any support unit I suppose):

1. Minerva moves to 1, where the only unit that can hit her is Ursula. Your blue unit moves from their starting location to Minerva's starting location.
2. Ursula goes to 2, hits Minerva, the red cavalier likely goes to 3 and uses Draw Back, dragging Ursula to 3. The southern thief hits a wall, the knight moves down 1 (in range of Lilina) and the northern thief goes to where the knight was.
3. Lilina blows up the knight. Minerva goes to the knight's corpse to attack the northern thief (blocking him from being able to reach Lilina). NOTE: If Minerva doesn't kill - likely - be wary of Escape Route causing issues. Not attacking may be correct, not sure. The blue unit moves to 1 to stop Ursula and the southern thief from being able to reach Lilina.

This does mean you need a unit that can weather an attack from the 50 attack red cavalier, Ursula, and the thief potentially. I'm not sure anyone beyond whom I listed will work. Maybe you can have Effie start where Olivia is, and have your 4th unit be someone with Shove/Dance/whatever to help her get into position.
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #189 on: March 10, 2017, 09:42:58 PM »
I used Hinoka, Eirika, Klein and 4* Nino.

Klein eats near lethal damage but takes out the southern thief thanks to Quick Riposte.

Nino moves forward into Ursula's range, takes her out.

Move Hinoka to plug the area marked 1 on Laggy's picture.  She can easily tank the red cavalier and thief.  I have +speed Hinoka and Eirika's speed buff lets he double the cavalier.

Hinoka kills the last thief. Nino draws back Hinoka away from the axe knight. Eirika moves up.  Nino attacks the knight enough for Eirika to finish it off.

This map had more strategy than the entirety of Birthright.

You can replace Hinoka with basically any blue cavalier (except Peri!) or blue pegasus.  Catria is probably the best one, Cordelia isn't bad either.  The southern thief needs to die in one go, or the cavalier will draw him away from you.  Can a +atk Takumi with hone attack do it?  Jeorge as a 4* option?  If Ursula is taken out of the picture, I think Eldigan is effectively immortal here.
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #190 on: March 11, 2017, 12:29:27 AM »
I beat the hard map by YOLO'ing it up with my 5* Cordelia (+atk/-Res). She took a thwack from Ursula (I didn't have a ranged unit that could respond to her with an OHKO) and then next turn killed her, The thief, and the cavalier.

Somehow the other thief decided to not kill a unit it could have (Olivia) and instead went after my Corrin (F). So the turn after that my Julia KO'd the Armored Knight and Cordelia went and killed the other Ninja.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #191 on: March 11, 2017, 03:45:54 AM »
I used Camilla, Leo, Abel, and Eirika as a buffer to beat Lunatic Ursula.
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #192 on: March 11, 2017, 10:32:49 AM »
Got to 20 orbs catching up on the paralogues, did another princess banner summon. First draw: -HP/+ATK Lucina. Stopped there.
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #193 on: March 12, 2017, 06:53:32 AM »
Laggy, help! It's happening again.  Before it becomes like Cratefest 2011.


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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #194 on: March 12, 2017, 07:07:34 AM »
Speaking of Lord Ephraim, I did pretty well backing Ephraim in the vote thingy.  Currently in the top tier of points for Team Ephraim, so I'll probably get more feathers than the Lucina bandwagoners despite losing.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #195 on: March 12, 2017, 10:53:31 AM »
After dying horribly with my default team to Ursula, I saw a video of a Japanese player beating the Ursula map with all 3* units, so I replicated the strategy with 4* units.  3* video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO2Sn_f2378

I replaced Subaki with Effie, replaced FRobin with Nino, and then replaced the healer with a level 25 Gaius to rally Nino's speed.  The rest of the concept was pretty similar.

1. Ranged units will always attack first, before the cavalry who will die on the suicide.  Hence, the turn the cavalry kills itself you don't need to do anything special with positioning; the turn after you step forward with your tank and block the Ninja from hitting Ovelia.

2. Use positioning stupidity to keep the Knight behind the Ninja and the Cavalier, which gives a completely safe location to hit the Knight (as long as there's no where for the Knight to move).  On the turn your mage finishes off the Knight, make sure you have a dance left to move to safety.

3. Clean up using your high DEF lance using non-infantry.

So...yeah, I have a 5 star Takumi, and a 5 star Shareena, and I didn't bring either to this fight on my winning run, because they were worse for beating this map than my 4 star units.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #196 on: March 12, 2017, 11:20:10 AM »
Laggy, help! It's happening again.  Before it becomes like Cratefest 2011.



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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #197 on: March 12, 2017, 05:03:56 PM »
Beat Ursula's map with Eirika, Klein, Catria, and Nino. The former two were of levels in the mid 30's; the latter two are 4*. Eirika's job was to buff: her passives hugely raise Nino's damage and allow her to ORKO Ursula (which she did on enemy phase 1), and also prevented Catria from being doubled by the ninjas (which is good because she is the only person on this team they don't weakness-hit and destroy in one round). Catria's job was to tank the ninjas when needed and the sword cavalier; when buffed by Eirika she could double him and thus take him out quite quickly. Klein's job was to one-shot the ninjas (though they murder him back, so this was player phase only). Klein and Nino also combined for a KO on the general. Lots of positioning shenanigans in this fight.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!
« Reply #198 on: March 12, 2017, 05:43:28 PM »
Laggy, help! It's happening again.  Before it becomes like Cratefest 2011.

You have merged Lucina, Linde, Kagero, and eight non-focus 5* in general?

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« Reply #199 on: March 12, 2017, 06:01:05 PM »
Laggy, help! It's happening again.  Before it becomes like Cratefest 2011.

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