Fire Emblem Heroes Topic: You knew this was coming!

[Laggy]

Did you root your phone or do anything to the firmware in the interim? Device compatibility shouldn't have changed in the update but Nintendo's apps are hypersensitive about that.

[metroid composite]

So wondering what were peoples' impressions of Artillery Clarisse were, if they ended up using her? I stuck her in there out of curiosity (and to help with the quests since people generally don't put colorless in the 1 spot). Mostly got Ciato's Reinhardt and Twil and/or Shale's Brave Roy.

Never saw your Clarisse.  (We have added each other as friends, right?  I lose track of what everyone's username is in FEH)

[VySaika]

I did not, no. Though problem resolved anyway, since when I brought it up to Jenna she checked and the tablet was due for an upgrade. Newer(though hardly new-est) android tablet get, files moved over, etc. It all works fine now. Better, actually. Previous tablet lagged pretty hard with any kind of online game like FEH or 7 Knights, new one does not seem to have this problem.

Anyway, unsure what units to support for now, but I've slapped my Summoner support on Brave Ike. The Atk+ death Olwen may have been the better choice, but Ike fanboyism prevails. Also changed Brave Ike to my frontman instead of my horribly outdated Ogma.

[Laggy]

Holy shit, this Tempest Trials has good rewards. Don't miss out. Just make sure to get your two bonus runs in per day and you can easily make it.

3000: 4* Masked Marth
6000: Quickened Pulse (Special cooldown count -1 at start of Turn 1)
10000: Defense +1
15000: 5* Masked Marth
20000: Distant Def 1 (+2 Def/Res if attacked by bow/dagger/magic/staff during combat)

This should let everyone who couldn't deal with the massive grind of the first TT (myself included) easy access to QP, and I'm eagerly looking at that Distant Def 1 Seal too.

FYI, if you have a bonus hero, it's totally worth it to throw the last map by surrendering (with 1 enemy unit left or whatever) to slot in a new team with a bonus hero and winning then. You only take a one rank dip in Survival (like a .05 mult loss) in exchange for gaining +40% or +20% on your total score.

That said bonus heroes have nice big stat bonuses now so if you have them leveled and synergize with your team even half decently, you can just use them too.

[VySaika]

Masked Marth is the closest thing I have to a bonus hero(no Hector/Lyn/Ninian, and just a shitty 3* Eliwood), but my Masked Marth is also built up enough to kill the Hector at the end of the 7 map lunatic one easily so I can win with one team barring shenanigans.

M.Marth/Olwen/Azura/Klein is my main swinging team here. Olwen and Klein can nuke most blues without much hassle so I'm not feeling the lack of a green too badly.

[Laggy]

Do note that it's still better for you to bring in that 3* Eliwood with a second team on the last map to finish off one unit left, because the extra 20% will give you more than the 5% you lose in your Survival rank for having one team bite the dust.

[Dark Holy Elf]

They pretty much just doubled the speed of the rewards compared to previous TTs, so yeah, this one's good. The rewards:time ratio of your first three TT runs each day is extremely high (and it's pretty good even thereafter).

Also seconding that the stat boosts make bonus units really powerful in Tempest. Like even 3* Eliwood will feel like a 5* one (+4 to all stats is equal to two promotions... there's no 5* weapon, but +10 HP), and it's really easy to level bonus units right now too (an excellent use of your third daily tempest trial if you do one). Eliwood in particular is nice to get to 4* just for Ward Cavalry.

[metroid composite]

Like even 3* Eliwood will feel like a 5* one (+4 to all stats is equal to two promotions... there's no 5* weapon, but +10 HP)

In most cases +4 to all stats on a 3* will be better than 5* stats.  Eliwood is an exception because his stats are so flat (+4, +4, +4, +3 (DEF), +4).  But for example, if you had a 3* +ATK -RES Cecilia, going from 3* to 5* on her is like (+3, +4, +3, +3, +3).

That said, losing Durandal hurts, and 6 HP doesn't really make up for it.

[Dark Holy Elf]

Well yes, 5 atk (9 on initiation) is better than 6 HP, but it's not by some crazy dramatic amount. The point is that the TT bonus essentially adds roughly 2* worth of stats, so even a 3* unit won't be a total anchor, and 4* up are quite potent indeed.

[Shale]

Taking advantage of the double SP/EXP nonsense last week, I decided to go nuts on feathers and SI after saving up limited resources basically since the game opened. For instance....

-Promoted a Reinhardt to 5 star (which I would have done earlier, but somehow I thought he was -ATK instead of his actual +ATK nature)
-Promoted Donnel to 5 star and fed his Brave Lance+ to my optimal Effie
-Promoted Cecilia to 5 star and fed Gronnraven+ to Soren so he can check archers and Reinhardt
-Promoted the plot trio up to 4 star, with an eye to 5 star them eventually so I can have a consistent set of bonus units who aren't total dead weight
-Took Brave Lyn as my free broken hero.

Then yesterday morning I did my free summon on the Death Blow banner and got a 5-star Klein (+DEF/-SPD), so that's awesome. Even better, I already had a 4* version sitting around so I fed that one to Reinhardt for DB3, and now my meta-cheese team is shaping up pretty well. The main thing I'm pondering now is whether to feed my 5* Faye that I drew on the Shadows of Valentia banner to Lyn and shift her to the Firesweep cheese build that Laggy runs.

[Laggy]

It's a solid build but I'm not sure you want to run it without +spd, since doubling is critical. Certainly an option though, it's not like Faye is a good unit anyway. <.<

I think people do underrate Mulagir in general (all I see is Brave Bow Lyn) but that's part of her power: she can run any of the 3 bows and be good at all of them.

[Shale]

She's certainly a better recipient for it than, say, Takumi.

[Dark Holy Elf]

By contrast I see more Mulagir Lyn than anything else by quite a ways. Unlike with Takumi you actually give up something meaningful to shift her over to Brave.

Anyway I've been hoping to draw Elincia since best red flier by far + hey I like the character quite a bit in her home games even though her art is a tad disappointing (did you know she's older than Ike?). No luck so far, but my very first three red orbs in search of her netted me, in order, 5* Marth, 5* Lucina, and 5* Ryoma (the latter two being heroes I had never drawn before). Ryoma's even +Spd. So that's cool.

Don't have enough time to do as much as I'd like, there are still way too many chain challenges waiting, not to mention characters to level (I have 130k feathers now and it's not because I'm hording). However I'm still getting through all the key content; Infernal fights remain a good time.

[Grefter]

why can't I hold all this loot

[Dark Holy Elf]

Ninian/Hawkeye Infernal: Featuring Wings of Mercy Hawkeye who has over 100 physical and magical soak (survives a double from Triangle Adept unbuffed Tharja much to my disgust), multiple horseslaying weapons* and some super-tricky enemy terrain + dancer opportunities. Making the dancer do stupid things was the path to victory, at least for me. Not sure how replicable this strategy is, it seemed to rely on a lot of my units' specifics, but here we go.

Party:
Eirika with Triangle Adept and the usual +9 buff setup
Tharja with Triangle Adept
Spring Camilla with Triangle Adept
Summer Robin with Fury/Vantage (first time I've used her in an Infernal fight I think)

Buffed Tharja moves just inside the green mage's range, buffed Summer Robin moves just inside the sword cavalier's (unlike in Lunatic, this does not take her into Hawkeye's range). Robin OHKOs the cavalier, Tharja just fails to OHKO the green mage... but this is good! Ninian will dance for the green mage instead of potentially dancing for the lance cav who could fuck up my plans (he even has Pass). Hawkeye warps in and hits Tharja, Triangle Adept makes this not too bad. The green mage goes again; I placed Eirika beside Tharja so the green mage goes for her to not die.

The next turn, Eirika Repositions Tharja away, and Tharja one-rounds Hawkeye Hawkeye. Camilla stands in Tharja's old spot, attacking the lance cav. The green mage takes two more shots at Eirika harmlessly, moving to beside Camilla because it wants to get at Robin maybe? This blocks both the lance cav and Ninian, Ninian goes to help the sword-user over.

Cleanup is pretty easy at this point, Tharja KOs the green mage and Camilla duels the lance cav, with Vantage Robin being able to easily handle the other two enemies at the very end.


*I've seen some people wonder why these weapons were added to the game, since they're not that amazing in PC hands compared to Brave, legendaries, etc.. This is why, they're great options for enemies in fights like this.

[Meiousei]

So the new banner. We finally get more dancers. And singers. And Inigo and Shigure. Hell yea I'm after this one. I pray I don't get Azura. I want my husbandos.

[Laggy]

Less than 150 orbs total on banner. One Inigo and Azura were on a +0% pity same session pull. The next session I immediately oneshotted Olivia from a single colorless orb.

My luck has been thoroughly consumed

(most are bad IVs but who cares, dancers)

[Meiousei]

...I had 153 orbs. Nothing to show for it but a 5* Effie. F my life.

[VySaika]

I had all of 10 orbs left coming into this one, because I blew everything trying to get Nephenee or Elincia. No luck on either, despite well over 100 orbs dropped. Lets hope my luck picks up a bit for this banner, once I have the orbs for it. Thankfully I already have normal Azura so I'm not in dire need of a dancer.

[Hunter Sopko]

I got Inigo off my free pull. I have not spent any orbs yet...

That said, I think I dropped 80-90 trying to get Ellincia with no luck. Got a 5* Lilina though.

[Dark Holy Elf]

That said, I think I dropped 80-90 trying to get Ellincia with no luck. Got a 5* Lilina though.

Wow, same here. Except it was more in the 120+ orb range for me. I have a fine track record of going after 5* focus fliers and not getting them, Spring Camilla aside.

I'm probably skipping this banner but Azura is kinda tempting. There are rumours that the next banner will be FE4 so maybe I'll build up a huge orb stockpile. (EDIT: to be clear, because I'm not planning to draw from any such banner)

[SnowFire]

Whined about in chat already, but same here, except a far smaller spend on the FE9 banner (~70 orbs or so?).  Zilch, no Elincia, no Oscar, no Neph.  What's extra insane is that the Tempest Trials event where they're super-bonusy is still going on, and the banner isn't even pullable anymore?  Da faq.

I *did* get a different flying princess in Tana, but I don't particularly have any Red or Green Armors I want to teleport around.  Twilkitri & Reiska pointed out in IRC that I can go get a Black Knight from the Tempest Trials, which I hadn't done in a long time after playing it twice when it started, looking at the point gain, and stopping in disgust.  I suspect I joined way too late to get the 5* BK though.  I also still don't like how TT scoring works.  Lvl. 35 Lunatic is a faceroll except for the Black Knight, and that's only largely because I subbed out my blue Mage in Ninian for the bonus Mist, so no hard counters for him (SF Cavalry Emblem is still Eliwood / Carrot Xander / Cecilia, so only Xander can duel the BK).  Lvl. 40 Lunatic is interesting!  And...  it takes more time and gives a smaller score!  The hell, game.  Reward the challenging / hard content, don't encourage mindless EZ grinding.  They should hugely up the bonus so that a shitty clear of the hardest difficulty is worth more than a perfect clear of the next hardest difficulty.

(For reference...   lvl. 35 Lunatic is 200 (base) x 1.2 (Survival) x 1.5 (Time) x 1.2 (Mist bonus) = 432.   Lvl. 40 Lunatic is 280 x 1.15 (Survival, don't want to trot Mist out in initial team in case disaster strikes, so use a different team for the first ~5-6 maps) x 1.1 (Time, speedrunning the lvl. 40 maps is a good way to die) x 1.2 (Mist bonus) = 425.)

I've built up my free Brave Lyn to lvl. 40, and since the game wants to give me infinite Ravens, I found a 4* Raven with a good IVs (+Atk, -Res) and promoted him and made him a +2 Raven.  Suicide infantry brave is still a little questionable...  giving that Brave Axe to Cherche probably would have been wiser, but oh well.  I think he may be a man without a country - not sure what team would even want him - but hey, have one just in case.  Same with Lyn, not sure what to do with her yet.  Try and fit her into Cavalry Emblem, I guess?  She's almost too popular though, Hipster SF would disapprove.

[Dark Holy Elf]

For what it's worth the L40 rewards are substantially better if you can clear it quickly, as the 280:200 ratio implies. (As Laggy is fond of pointing out, even if you can't work your bonus hero onto your A team, it's worth it to run the team with the bonus hero, surrender as soon as they run into trouble, and then roll with your A team; the survival penalty is miniscule). If you can't do L40 quickly then yeah, better to stick with something lower. That said I agree the gaps should be wider, at the moment one very valid strategy (which I refuse to even think about doing) is to just faceroll a lower difficulty on auto-battle all day long, this is how the people who are in the 50,000 (or so) get the scores they do. That sort of shit is what put me off of the idea of various other mobile games.

Tana's Guidance is nice and all but really she's more about being a blue flier with great stats and a weapon which makes those stats outright cheaty. Though if you insist on pairing her with armour it's pretty easy to get 4* Zelgius and then promote him.

[SnowFire]

That's the paradox though, right?  If I can clear it quickly, then it probably isn't as interesting.  I actually sorta enjoyed my L40 runs where I had to worry about various disasters, oh how do I deal with the Lancebreaker on this slow mage who's gonna murder me, etc.  If I had an optimized enough team to safely beat it quickly, that means it's become easier.  And then I wonder why I'm grinding up easy uninteresting battles rather than playing a different game.

For the bonus unit, I thought the bonus unit had to be in your final party and also survive?  Can I run it in my initial party and still get the bonus even if it dies?

And yeah, I just got the 4* Burger King.  I misread you at first and thought you meant Zephiel, which I have a 4* of lying around somewhere too...   I guess he'd also work for an armor to go riding with Tana, but he doesn't have Alondite's free Distant Counter and I've never drawn any Hectors to devour, and Armors really really like that distant counter ability.

EDIT: Checking, my Tana even has good IVs, +Atk -Res.  Huh.  Maybe I will have to build her up after all.  Not as good at tanking archers or mages as Subaki, but can actually kill shit in exchange.

[Meiousei]

Still pissed no dancer/singer. I just want one of them. Preferably Inigo to make up for my -Atk Elinicia. Though I need to get Life and Death to make Elinicia better (unless I get a new one).